Video emerges of Georgia jogger attack; case headed to grand jury

[Canon Shooter]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

Who cares?

a black man armed himself and murdered two innocent white people in delaware

but you dont care about that

Of course I do.

But that's not the topic of discussion here. A black guy killing white people in Delaware has no bearing on the case we're discussing...

 

[jc456]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

huh? if they have carry license, the act by the black man to wrestle the gun from the holder, is creating a threat.

 

[jc456]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

Okay... so why do anyone arm themselves?

To make a fashion statement?

I arm myself in case I have to defend myself. I don't arm myself so that I can go chase down someone who's running down my street so I can "talk" to him but kill him instead...

Yes you do. You arm yourself in case you need to defend yourself.

Stopping the robber means you might need to use force, or that robber might use force against you.

Therefore gun, if that happen, you defend yourself.

He robbed no one, and he was unarmed. Furthermore, Travis McMichael didn't even know that Arbery was inside the construction site. He just did what Daddy told him to do (which is common among redneck racists), and his decision to listen to his father is what will put his redneck ass in jail for the rest of his life.

Again, they armed themselves and pursued him. Because of that they CANNOT claim self defense...

so what? what's your point? the men were attempting to detain for the cops. that can't be disputed.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

It's highly likely they planned to confront Arbery as many times as necessary until Arbery got frustrated enough to attack and then they knew they could shoot him, and in their minds, it would look like an accident. That is why the McMichaels had a friend videotaping.

So they knew the thug was stupid enough to attack them? That's what you're saying.

That's a ridiculous question, based on racism, and a total lack of interest for accurate information.

Great reply.

That's a loaded question also.

 

[jc456]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

Who cares?

a black man armed himself and murdered two innocent white people in delaware

but you dont care about that

Of course I do.

But that's not the topic of discussion here. A black guy killing white people in Delaware has no bearing on the case we're discussing...

all it is is evidence you don't care about that scenario. that was the point. you just confirmed it.

 

[Canon Shooter]

At this point I'm going to bow out of this conversation for the time being. We're arguing in circles, and accomplishing nothing.

The racist-apologists here will continue to blame Arbery and absolve Gregory and Travis McMichael, and will continue to try to make it seem as though this is okay because a black guy killed white people someplace else.

I'll revisit this thread when as there are developments in the case but, for right now, I've grown a bit weary of the absolutely unbridled stupidity being demonstrated by those who think this was a righteous shooting...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

.

Two huge armed white men in a truck. How would he know they wouldn’t shoot him if he ran?

How?

They already passed by him and didn't shoot him.

That doesn't mean anything. They blocked his path. Why would any sane person stop a truck in the middle of the street. You do that in Boston and we are swinging. That is just not a rational move. At least not here in the Northeast.

no they didn't, they have every right to stop on a street. The black man had every opportunity to avoid that truck. he ran toward it and at the dude with the gun. Fact. right? he ran at the truck. the truck did not cut him off. the black man could have continued running past the truck. neither man was in his path. neither. to say otherwise is a lie. And the video makes you that.

Forget the jogger. If I am driving and you stop your truck in the middle of street without hazards and just sit there, I will come out of my car and confront you. If you pull a gun on me, you better use it correctly. I would have disarmed that fat loser and he and his dad would have been in serious trouble. You DO NOT have the right to stop in the middle of the street and sit there unless your truck has stalled or you have some sort of emergency.

Forget the jogger, I am talking big picture here.

 

[Mac-7]

But that's not the topic of discussion here.

Right

its the topic on another thread

did it capture your attention and cause you to comment?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

.

Two huge armed white men in a truck. How would he know they wouldn’t shoot him if he ran?

How?

They already passed by him and didn't shoot him.

That doesn't mean anything. They blocked his path. Why would any sane person stop a truck in the middle of the street. You do that in Boston and we are swinging. That is just not a rational move. At least not here in the Northeast.

Yes, they blocked his path. That's what you do when you want to stop someone.

You block my path you better get ready to man up. They had no right. Call the police. It was at worst two on one. Don't need a gun if you're a man.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

huh? if they have carry license, the act by the black man to wrestle the gun from the holder, is creating a threat.

If it is two against one and you pull out a gun, you're a pussy. Sorry and it was more than two as the dude in the truck behind them was their buddy. So 3 on 1? Why did they need a gun?

Even if they are innocent (they aren't) they are guilty of being pussies.

 

[Mac-7]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

Who cares?

a black man armed himself and murdered two innocent white people in delaware

but you dont care about that

Of course I do.

But that's not the topic of discussion here. A black guy killing white people in Delaware has no bearing on the case we're discussing...

all it is is evidence you don't care about that scenario. that was the point. you just confirmed it.

He’s just responding to the dog whistle the lib news media is blowing

in miami two black guys murdered a 17 year old white girl for her shoes

I seriously doubt if he heard about that on the lib news media or gave it one percent as much attention as he gave to the Georgia jogger

 

[Mac-7]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

.

Two huge armed white men in a truck. How would he know they wouldn’t shoot him if he ran?

How?

They already passed by him and didn't shoot him.

That doesn't mean anything. They blocked his path. Why would any sane person stop a truck in the middle of the street. You do that in Boston and we are swinging. That is just not a rational move. At least not here in the Northeast.

Yes, they blocked his path. That's what you do when you want to stop someone.

You block my path you better get ready to man up. They had no right. Call the police. It was at worst two on one. Don't need a gun if you're a man.

The jogger is “manning up” in a funeral home somewhere

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

.

Two huge armed white men in a truck. How would he know they wouldn’t shoot him if he ran?

How?

They already passed by him and didn't shoot him.

That doesn't mean anything. They blocked his path. Why would any sane person stop a truck in the middle of the street. You do that in Boston and we are swinging. That is just not a rational move. At least not here in the Northeast.

Yes, they blocked his path. That's what you do when you want to stop someone.

You block my path you better get ready to man up. They had no right. Call the police. It was at worst two on one. Don't need a gun if you're a man.

The jogger is “manning up” in a funeral home somewhere

Yep. But he and I are completely different people.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

Who cares?

a black man armed himself and murdered two innocent white people in delaware

but you dont care about that

Of course I do.

But that's not the topic of discussion here. A black guy killing white people in Delaware has no bearing on the case we're discussing...

all it is is evidence you don't care about that scenario. that was the point. you just confirmed it.

He’s just responding to the dog whistle the lib news media is blowing

in miami two black guys murdered a 17 year old white girl for her shoes

I seriously doubt if he heard about that on the lib news media or gave it one percent as much attention as he gave to the Georgia jogger

Is there a video? Without the video this would not be getting the play it gets either.

 

[jc456]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

huh? if they have carry license, the act by the black man to wrestle the gun from the holder, is creating a threat.

If it is two against one and you pull out a gun, you're a pussy. Sorry and it was more than two as the dude in the truck behind them was their buddy. So 3 on 1? Why did they need a gun?

Even if they are innocent (they aren't) they are guilty of being pussies.

that isn't against the law is it? if someone wishes to show they are weak, it's allowed, right? I mean, this is america right? And again, the black man ran at the one man with a gun. The dude in the truck bed did not have a weapon in his hand when the black man approached. video is clear on that. The black man was not even detained, he had a clear path to continue his jog. He interrupted that jog. you show me something differently. Weak ass pussies or not. show that to me.

 

[Mac-7]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

.

Two huge armed white men in a truck. How would he know they wouldn’t shoot him if he ran?

How?

They already passed by him and didn't shoot him.

That doesn't mean anything. They blocked his path. Why would any sane person stop a truck in the middle of the street. You do that in Boston and we are swinging. That is just not a rational move. At least not here in the Northeast.

Yes, they blocked his path. That's what you do when you want to stop someone.

You block my path you better get ready to man up. They had no right. Call the police. It was at worst two on one. Don't need a gun if you're a man.

The jogger is “manning up” in a funeral home somewhere

Yep. But he and I are completely different people.

Famous last words

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

huh? if they have carry license, the act by the black man to wrestle the gun from the holder, is creating a threat.

If it is two against one and you pull out a gun, you're a pussy. Sorry and it was more than two as the dude in the truck behind them was their buddy. So 3 on 1? Why did they need a gun?

Even if they are innocent (they aren't) they are guilty of being pussies.

that isn't against the law is it? if someone wishes to show they are weak, it's allowed, right? I mean, this is america right? And again, the black man ran at the one man with a gun. The dude in the truck bed did not have a weapon in his hand when the black man approached. video is clear on that. The black man was not even detained, he had a clear path to continue his jog. He interrupted that jog. you show me something differently. Weak ass pussies or not. show that to me.

Forget laws. If you're a pussy then so be it. I won't say they are guilty of murder until I have more evidence but you and I agree that the assailants are pussies. Correct? And I am not going to defend pussies on the messageboard. I leave that for Leftists like JoeB and playtime. This country has weakened due to their PC culture and these assailants further weaken it. They didn't need a gun. Want to confront the person then do it like a man. I have zero time or respect for pussies and cowards.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why did they stop the truck in the middle of the street? No one an answer that question.

Does it really matter given what this guy decided to do?

Assume they stop the truck in the middle of the road and pull out 40 guns and pointed to them at him.

Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the house is

Not say what do you want

No, charge of the guys hole in the guns and try to take them away.

:Not run at the trees

Not run the other way

Not run toward the houses

Not say what do you want

No, charge at the guys holding the guns and try to take them away.



Not one person here believes that was the right thing to do. Not one of you. You all know that he was acting stupidly or aggressively.

.

Two huge armed white men in a truck. How would he know they wouldn’t shoot him if he ran?

How?

They already passed by him and didn't shoot him.

That doesn't mean anything. They blocked his path. Why would any sane person stop a truck in the middle of the street. You do that in Boston and we are swinging. That is just not a rational move. At least not here in the Northeast.

Yes, they blocked his path. That's what you do when you want to stop someone.

You block my path you better get ready to man up. They had no right. Call the police. It was at worst two on one. Don't need a gun if you're a man.

The jogger is “manning up” in a funeral home somewhere

Yep. But he and I are completely different people.

Famous last words

I am 100% confident I would handle it quite well. You can come to Boston and see for yourself if you like...

 

[Godboy]

Don't run left, toward the guy with the gun. Run right, toward the houses.

That's not the behavior of someone in fear for his life.

As has been pointed out to you ad nauseum, he did run around to the right. You're either blind as a bat or profoundly dishonest if you say you can't see that.

Logic and common sense says that there's a better than average chance that, when McMichael ran in front of the truck, he did so in a manner as to completely block Arbery. Maybe he leveled the shotgun at him. Any intelligent person would accept that as being well within the realm of possibility.

You continue to want to blame Arbery for "escalating" this, and you fail, every time. No prosecutor is going to see that, and no jury will agree with a defense attorney who presents it as a defense...

He clearly took a left turn at the front of the truck, rather than a right turn. He should have never taken that left turn and attacked the guy holding a gun. That is why he is dead.

 

[Mac-7]

Not even close.

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

.

If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

Not even close.

The McMichaels armed themselves and then pursued Arbery. Those two actions legally negate them from being able to claim self defense. The U.S. Attorney almost laughed when he read that determination by the local DA...

Who cares?

a black man armed himself and murdered two innocent white people in delaware

but you dont care about that

Of course I do.

But that's not the topic of discussion here. A black guy killing white people in Delaware has no bearing on the case we're discussing...

all it is is evidence you don't care about that scenario. that was the point. you just confirmed it.

He’s just responding to the dog whistle the lib news media is blowing

in miami two black guys murdered a 17 year old white girl for her shoes

I seriously doubt if he heard about that on the lib news media or gave it one percent as much attention as he gave to the Georgia jogger

Is there a video? Without the video this would not be getting the play it gets either.

Thats your excuse?

The dead white couple in Delaware or the dead white girl in miami dont matter because libs have no video?