Video emerges of Georgia jogger attack; case headed to grand jury

[Norman]

Arbery behaved in self defense.

Didn't look like it to me when he RAN AT McMichael. Sorry. That's a FACT you cannot escape. Not buying your bullshit.

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Then you’re only considering a small fraction of the facts.

Why ignore the rest of the facts?

Like what?

It's not assault to approach someone. It's not assault to say "hey, we want to talk to you." It's not assault to be armed.

It IS assault to run at someone and try to take the item they are holding.

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But is IS considered assault to point a weapon at someone, whether it's loaded or not.

No its not. Making up fake laws isnt going to score you any points here. Do better next time.

Bruce Finlay

Attorney at Law
P.O. Box 3, Shelton, WA 98584
Home | Bruce Finlay Attorney, Shelton, WA

Pointing a gun at another person in Washington State could result in a class B felony charge of assault in the second degree with a deadly weapon. That crime occurs when a person assaults another with a deadly weapon. Assault is not defined by statute in Washington; this state uses the common law definition, which for these purposes is as follows: “An assault is an attempt, with unlawful force, to inflict bodily injuries on another, accompanied with the apparent present ability to give effect to the attempt if not prevented. Such would be the raising of the hand in anger, with an apparent purpose to strike, and sufficiently near to enable the purpose to be carried into effect; the pointing of a loaded pistol at one who is in its range; the pointing of a pistol not loaded at one who is not aware of that fact and making an apparent attempt to shoot; shaking a whip or the fist in a man’s face in anger; riding or running after him in [a] threatening and hostile manner with a club or other weapon; and the like.” That charge carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a fine of $20,000.
Continued here: https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/apr-2015-attorney-question

Have you learned something or are you still feeling antagonistic towards me?

If pointing a gun at someone is illegal, why is this guy a hero and not going to jail?



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy

Man holds suspected church burglar at gunpoint

Should i keep going?

Learn to read, moron. Your own link says it "CAN" happen, not that it WILL happen. If you were a gangbanger who is menacing people with his gun, you would go to jail, but if you are a good Samaritan, you can absolutely point a gun at someone and it is perfectly legal. Making up lies isnt an effective argument. Do better next time.

Wow, heroes of society kicking criminal ass. Leftists have a big problem with this, obviously.

So what do you recon would have happened to the first guy if he started charging at the guy with the gun? Thankfully, he wasn't that dumb.

 

[IM2]

 

[IM2]

What's frustrating is that you refuse to get that those men had no right to follow Arbery. Therefore any reason you have for them being armed is irrelevant.

Being armed is irrelevant.

They had no right to apprehend him, but when reporting a potential crime, they had the right to follow him. That’s all they should have done.

And because THEY chose to do more, Arbery is dead...

True, but that is not the SOLE reason Arbery is dead.
Yes it is.
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That response assumes they would have killed Arbery, no matter what he did.

You really believe that?

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Yes. Why wouldn't I?

That's all I have to say to you on this topic.



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What's frustrating is that you refuse to get that those men had no right to follow Arbery. Therefore any reason you have for them being armed is irrelevant.

Being armed is irrelevant.

They had no right to apprehend him, but when reporting a potential crime, they had the right to follow him. That’s all they should have done.

And because THEY chose to do more, Arbery is dead...

True, but that is not the SOLE reason Arbery is dead.
Yes it is.
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T

That response assumes they would have killed Arbery, no matter what he did.

You really believe that?

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Yes. Why wouldn't I?

That's all I have to say to you on this topic.



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You might want to look for a longer video then start understanding that McMichael had no right to be there.

Post what you’ve got. I don’t care.

You still think they would have killed him, no matter what. I have nothing else to say. You proved my point.

Case closed.

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The case was closed before you started your first post. Yes I think they would have killed him. They did kill him. The McMichael son had no reason to be standing there with his shot gun cocked.

 

[Norman]

Blacks need fathers to not become retarded from the advice of women who have no clue. This is what might happen if boys don't have guidance from someone who has proper man's testosterone levels.

He robbed, then he tried to grab a gun, and that's why he is dead. That's also why there was no arrest for so long - they already know the people who shot the person were innocent, as is usual in these cases. Then the media fueled outrage, and we must must must arrest people immediately. They will be disappointed again.

 

[IM2]

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Because they were chasing him, attempting to cut him off and intercept him and pulled their truck up to him specifically to stop him.

And that does not justify Arbery's aggression.

If you can’t see where McMichael is, then how can you say it’s clear that he never approached Arbery? You can’t. It’s not “clear”. It’s anything but.

You can't see him anywhere in the frame when Arbery RUNS AT HIM!!!!

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The video confirms this was self defense, not aggression. The shot rang out at the point Avery was rounding the vehicle. The aggression is from those who were in possession of illegally loaded firearms.

Yeah, what part of the video do you see where the dead guy initially feared for his life? It’s not there. All you see is the black guy being aggressive toward a white dude. That’s what’s making you fucking pissed off. A white dude killed a black dude who deserved it.

Boo fucking who.

Guys having guns does not equal aggression, you gun-grabbing twat. Running at someone is. You can cry all you want. The black dude was the aggressor and deserved to die. Fuck him.


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All you have to do, is put your instinct goggles on, pretend you are Avery running in the video yourself, and tell me what you see. My eyes and instincts tell me I would have done the same exact thing. Avery knew that running in the grass was his end too. And from where I see it, it looked like open territory to the right to me.

What about run the other way?

What about stop and ask him what the fuck they want?

What about Ron 90° from the truck toward the woods?

You are so full of shit. You know you’re full of shit.

Nobody, when a gun is pointed at them, runs at the gun. Nobody.

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He was boxed in, front & rear wasn't he if you consider the guy in the vehicle in the rear shooting the video footage that was ultimately released?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Arbery behaved in self defense.

Didn't look like it to me when he RAN AT McMichael. Sorry. That's a FACT you cannot escape. Not buying your bullshit.

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Then you’re only considering a small fraction of the facts.

Why ignore the rest of the facts?

Like what?

It's not assault to approach someone. It's not assault to say "hey, we want to talk to you." It's not assault to be armed.

It IS assault to run at someone and try to take the item they are holding.

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But is IS considered assault to point a weapon at someone, whether it's loaded or not.

No its not. Making up fake laws isnt going to score you any points here. Do better next time.

Bruce Finlay

Attorney at Law
P.O. Box 3, Shelton, WA 98584
Home | Bruce Finlay Attorney, Shelton, WA

Pointing a gun at another person in Washington State could result in a class B felony charge of assault in the second degree with a deadly weapon. That crime occurs when a person assaults another with a deadly weapon. Assault is not defined by statute in Washington; this state uses the common law definition, which for these purposes is as follows: “An assault is an attempt, with unlawful force, to inflict bodily injuries on another, accompanied with the apparent present ability to give effect to the attempt if not prevented. Such would be the raising of the hand in anger, with an apparent purpose to strike, and sufficiently near to enable the purpose to be carried into effect; the pointing of a loaded pistol at one who is in its range; the pointing of a pistol not loaded at one who is not aware of that fact and making an apparent attempt to shoot; shaking a whip or the fist in a man’s face in anger; riding or running after him in [a] threatening and hostile manner with a club or other weapon; and the like.” That charge carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a fine of $20,000.
Continued here: https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/apr-2015-attorney-question

Have you learned something or are you still feeling antagonistic towards me?

If pointing a gun at someone is illegal, why is this guy a hero and not going to jail?



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy

Man holds suspected church burglar at gunpoint

Should i keep going?

Learn to read, moron. Your own link says it "CAN" happen, not that it WILL happen. If you were a gangbanger who is menacing people with his gun, you would go to jail, but if you are a good Samaritan, you can absolutely point a gun at someone and it is perfectly legal. Making up lies isnt an effective argument. Do better next time.

Do the words "without lawful authority" or "without a valid lawful basis" mean anything to you?

I stopped looking after I saw the word "Homeowner" in the title of the first video. Of course there are exceptions, finding someone in your home or on your property who doesn't belong there is one of them.

So stop being pedantic and admit that you can't just point a firearm at someone when you're out in public simply because you want to "interrogate" them and/or know who they are. That is a easy way to end up with an assault charge or getting shot yourself.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

These guys are trying to get us to believe they had no intention of stopping him.

So? Trying to stop somebody is not assault.

Going after somebody and try to take their gun away from him is very much assault.

What's equally clear is that McMichaels then went from the driver's side of the truck to the front of the truck. Why would he have done that if he had no interest in confronting the jogger?

He did. Irrelevant. Confronting is not assaulting.

The only person that you can tell is committing assault in this video is the dead guy.

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We can't say, with any degree of certainty, what happened in front of the truck. The fact that they armed themselves and chased him down and tried to stop him, though, strongly suggests to any rational, non-racist that Travis McMichael put him self in a position where Arbery felt he needed to be in fear for his life. Struggling for the gun may well have been the only thing Arbery felt would help save his life.

What you claim to be irrelevant is actually an important factor to this case.

I'll say this for the retarded kids in the class: If you arm yourself and chase someone down and attempt to stop them, you cannot claim self defense. I believe the law in all 50 states would bear that out; even in Georgia.

Why did Travis McMichael confront Arbery with a shotgun if all he and his father wanted to do was talk to him?

Because either they believe the bs peddled about black men being genetically predisposition to violence and as a result are afraid of them or they wanted to experience what it was like when it was for an intents and purposes still legal to hunt down and shoot black men in the good ole U.S. of A.

Nah, sane people just dont like it when violent criminals attack people. Violent criminals should always be shot. The world would be a much better place if this happened more often.

Quit defending criminals.

I don't defend criminals, if anything I defend and assist their victims.

 

[Mac-7]

Who cares?

 

[Mac-7]

Arbery behaved in self defense.

Didn't look like it to me when he RAN AT McMichael. Sorry. That's a FACT you cannot escape. Not buying your bullshit.

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Then you’re only considering a small fraction of the facts.

Why ignore the rest of the facts?

Like what?

It's not assault to approach someone. It's not assault to say "hey, we want to talk to you." It's not assault to be armed.

It IS assault to run at someone and try to take the item they are holding.

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But is IS considered assault to point a weapon at someone, whether it's loaded or not.

No its not. Making up fake laws isnt going to score you any points here. Do better next time.

Bruce Finlay

Attorney at Law
P.O. Box 3, Shelton, WA 98584
Home | Bruce Finlay Attorney, Shelton, WA

Pointing a gun at another person in Washington State could result in a class B felony charge of assault in the second degree with a deadly weapon. That crime occurs when a person assaults another with a deadly weapon. Assault is not defined by statute in Washington; this state uses the common law definition, which for these purposes is as follows: “An assault is an attempt, with unlawful force, to inflict bodily injuries on another, accompanied with the apparent present ability to give effect to the attempt if not prevented. Such would be the raising of the hand in anger, with an apparent purpose to strike, and sufficiently near to enable the purpose to be carried into effect; the pointing of a loaded pistol at one who is in its range; the pointing of a pistol not loaded at one who is not aware of that fact and making an apparent attempt to shoot; shaking a whip or the fist in a man’s face in anger; riding or running after him in [a] threatening and hostile manner with a club or other weapon; and the like.” That charge carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a fine of $20,000.
Continued here: https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/apr-2015-attorney-question

Have you learned something or are you still feeling antagonistic towards me?

If pointing a gun at someone is illegal, why is this guy a hero and not going to jail?



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy

Man holds suspected church burglar at gunpoint

Should i keep going?

Learn to read, moron. Your own link says it "CAN" happen, not that it WILL happen. If you were a gangbanger who is menacing people with his gun, you would go to jail, but if you are a good Samaritan, you can absolutely point a gun at someone and it is perfectly legal. Making up lies isnt an effective argument. Do better next time.

Do the words "without lawful authority" or "without a valid lawful basis" mean anything to you?

I stopped looking after I saw the word "Homeowner" in the title of the first video. Of course there are exceptions, finding someone in your home or on your property who doesn't belong there is one of them.

So stop being pedantic and admit that you can't just point a firearm at someone when you're out in public simply because you want to "interrogate" them and/or know who they are. That is a easy way to end up with an assault charge or getting shot yourself.

you are wasting your bandwidth

with recent stories of whites killed by blacks such as the elderly couple or the white girl in miami, the dead jogger is just not important anymore

 

[Godboy]

Arbery behaved in self defense.

Didn't look like it to me when he RAN AT McMichael. Sorry. That's a FACT you cannot escape. Not buying your bullshit.

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Then you’re only considering a small fraction of the facts.

Why ignore the rest of the facts?

Like what?

It's not assault to approach someone. It's not assault to say "hey, we want to talk to you." It's not assault to be armed.

It IS assault to run at someone and try to take the item they are holding.

.

But is IS considered assault to point a weapon at someone, whether it's loaded or not.

No its not. Making up fake laws isnt going to score you any points here. Do better next time.

Bruce Finlay

Attorney at Law
P.O. Box 3, Shelton, WA 98584
Home | Bruce Finlay Attorney, Shelton, WA

Pointing a gun at another person in Washington State could result in a class B felony charge of assault in the second degree with a deadly weapon. That crime occurs when a person assaults another with a deadly weapon. Assault is not defined by statute in Washington; this state uses the common law definition, which for these purposes is as follows: “An assault is an attempt, with unlawful force, to inflict bodily injuries on another, accompanied with the apparent present ability to give effect to the attempt if not prevented. Such would be the raising of the hand in anger, with an apparent purpose to strike, and sufficiently near to enable the purpose to be carried into effect; the pointing of a loaded pistol at one who is in its range; the pointing of a pistol not loaded at one who is not aware of that fact and making an apparent attempt to shoot; shaking a whip or the fist in a man’s face in anger; riding or running after him in [a] threatening and hostile manner with a club or other weapon; and the like.” That charge carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a fine of $20,000.
Continued here: https://armedcitizensnetwork.org/apr-2015-attorney-question

Have you learned something or are you still feeling antagonistic towards me?

If pointing a gun at someone is illegal, why is this guy a hero and not going to jail?



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy



or this guy

Man holds suspected church burglar at gunpoint

Should i keep going?

Learn to read, moron. Your own link says it "CAN" happen, not that it WILL happen. If you were a gangbanger who is menacing people with his gun, you would go to jail, but if you are a good Samaritan, you can absolutely point a gun at someone and it is perfectly legal. Making up lies isnt an effective argument. Do better next time.

Do the words "without lawful authority" or "without a valid lawful basis" mean anything to you?

I stopped looking after I saw the word "Homeowner" in the title of the first video. Of course there are exceptions, finding someone in your home or on your property who doesn't belong there is one of them.

So stop being pedantic and admit that you can't just point a firearm at someone when you're out in public simply because you want to "interrogate" them and/or know who they are. That is a easy way to end up with an assault charge or getting shot yourself.

I posted several videos. Why did you only mention the first one? Your entire argument is based on lies. I posted several examples. Would you like 10 more that have nothing to do with someones home? 20? 30? How many must i post before you admit you are wrong?

 

[gipper]

What's frustrating is that you refuse to get that those men had no right to follow Arbery. Therefore any reason you have for them being armed is irrelevant.

Being armed is irrelevant.

They had no right to apprehend him, but when reporting a potential crime, they had the right to follow him. That’s all they should have done.

And because THEY chose to do more, Arbery is dead...

True, but that is not the SOLE reason Arbery is dead.
Yes it is.
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T

That response assumes they would have killed Arbery, no matter what he did.

You really believe that?

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Yes. Why wouldn't I?

That's all I have to say to you on this topic.



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What's frustrating is that you refuse to get that those men had no right to follow Arbery. Therefore any reason you have for them being armed is irrelevant.

Being armed is irrelevant.

They had no right to apprehend him, but when reporting a potential crime, they had the right to follow him. That’s all they should have done.

And because THEY chose to do more, Arbery is dead...

True, but that is not the SOLE reason Arbery is dead.
Yes it is.
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T

That response assumes they would have killed Arbery, no matter what he did.

You really believe that?

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Yes. Why wouldn't I?

That's all I have to say to you on this topic.



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You might want to look for a longer video then start understanding that McMichael had no right to be there.

Post what you’ve got. I don’t care.

You still think they would have killed him, no matter what. I have nothing else to say. You proved my point.

Case closed.

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The case was closed before you started your first post. Yes I think they would have killed him. They did kill him. The McMichael son had no reason to be standing there with his shot gun cocked.

What I don’t understand is why did the murder victim run toward the guys with guns. I don’t know about you but if I see guys with guns, I run away from them. It’s just common sense.

I suspect there is more to the story then we are being told.

 

[Ame®icano]

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

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If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

But if you kill someone who runs into you, despite you're holding a gun, that's self defense.

 

[Ame®icano]

Self defense is not illegal. Arbery has a right to defend himself. He didn’t pick this fight. In fact, he attempted to run from it.

Self-defense requires fear of IMMINENT bodily injury or death. Where was that BEFORE he ran at McMichael?

I know what you're gonna say. They were armed. Bullshit. That's not enough.


It appears that he DID pick this fight. He could have just kept on running, rather than ATTACK McMichael, which the video CLEARLY shows.

He did NOT attempt to run from it. He ran AT McMichael. Deny it. I'll show you the video.

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They were chasing him, attempting to cut him off, to intercept him. They put themselves in his path repeatedly. They shouted at him telling him to stop.

And they did so while brandishing firearms.

A rational person would find that to be a threatening situation. Do you disagree?

How are they supposed to stop a burglar WITHOUT putting themselves in his path?

These guys are trying to get us to believe they had no intention of stopping him.

Admitting McMichael was trying to stop him makes him the aggressor and therefore opens him up to liability for the outcome of his actions, in this case murder.

Which is why some supporters of McMichael are trying to get us to believe that they were only following or just wanting to ask them questions, not arrest them.

If you are wanting to just ask questions, you don't break laws yourself with loaded firearms in a vehicle. And you don't point loaded shotguns at the one's you want to ask questions to.

But you do know that is not what happen, do you?

 

[Ame®icano]

McMichael created the situation which makes him the initial aggressor and can not claim self defense.

How?

If you say "because he had a gun" BULLSHIT!!!!

The mere possession of a firearm is NOT aggression.

no one can say if McMichael moved across the front of the truck. That’s obscured in the video.

It's clear to everyone that Arbery ran at McMichael. You can't see where McMichael is when Arbery ran at him, but the first shot went off all the way over on the driver's side of the truck.


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A loaded shotgun in a vehicle is illegal and implies aggression.

Show me.

You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Having a loaded gun does not show aggression, you filthy motherfucker, shut your fucking hole. I’m sick of you gun grabbing motherfuckers saying that just having a gun is a criminal act. Go fuck yourself in your goddamn commie ass.

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Leftist's narrative is falling apart.

No matter how hard they try to find a decent black "victim of whypipo racism", it always turns out that the black in question was at fault.

 

[Ame®icano]

Show me.

You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Having a loaded gun does not show aggression, you filthy motherfucker, shut your fucking hole. I’m sick of you gun grabbing motherfuckers saying that just having a gun is a criminal act. Go fuck yourself in your goddamn commie ass.

Whoops, someone need a diaper change?

Having a gun is not a criminal act. I know because I carry one, legally, every day. But if I were brandishing it, or using it to try to compel someone to, say, stop jogging actually qualifies as assault with a deadly weapon. I wouldn't even have to pull the trigger.

Even if we allow for the possibility that Travis and Gregory McMichael wanted to effect a citizens arrest (and there's really no evidence of that), they shoulder a great responsibility in choosing to do that. They had the guns, not Arbery.

The fact that they chased him down render the claims of self defense moot, since they instigated the entire incident. If they wanted to talk, they wouldn't have armed themselves before going after them. A first year law student could show that they intended to do hard to Arbery...

When someone points gun at you, weather policeman like Darren Wilson in Ferguson, or civilian McMichael in Georgia, are you saying that first reaction should be to go for a gun and disarm that person, instead to comply with their request?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What's frustrating is that you refuse to get that those men had no right to follow Arbery. Therefore any reason you have for them being armed is irrelevant.

Being armed is irrelevant.

They had no right to apprehend him, but when reporting a potential crime, they had the right to follow him. That’s all they should have done.

And because THEY chose to do more, Arbery is dead...

True, but that is not the SOLE reason Arbery is dead.
Yes it is.
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T

That response assumes they would have killed Arbery, no matter what he did.

You really believe that?

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Yes. Why wouldn't I?

That's all I have to say to you on this topic.



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Maybe you watch more than this

What's frustrating is that you refuse to get that those men had no right to follow Arbery. Therefore any reason you have for them being armed is irrelevant.

Being armed is irrelevant.

They had no right to apprehend him, but when reporting a potential crime, they had the right to follow him. That’s all they should have done.

And because THEY chose to do more, Arbery is dead...

True, but that is not the SOLE reason Arbery is dead.
Yes it is.
.

T

That response assumes they would have killed Arbery, no matter what he did.

You really believe that?

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Yes. Why wouldn't I?

That's all I have to say to you on this topic.



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You might want to look for a longer video then start understanding that McMichael had no right to be there.

Post what you’ve got. I don’t care.

You still think they would have killed him, no matter what. I have nothing else to say. You proved my point.

Case closed.

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The case was closed before you started your first post. Yes I think they would have killed him. They did kill him. The McMichael son had no reason to be standing there with his shot gun cocked.

What I don’t understand is why did the murder victim run toward the guys with guns. I don’t know about you but if I see guys with guns, I run away from them. It’s just common sense.

I suspect there is more to the story then we are being told.

And, I think we have effectively demonstrated bias on the part of many here. They continue to argue that there was nothing Arbery could have done in this entire scenario to prevent his own death.

Here's the first thing he could have done.

Don't run left, toward the guy with the gun. Run right, toward the houses.

That's not the behavior of someone in fear for his life.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Show me.

You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Having a loaded gun does not show aggression, you filthy motherfucker, shut your fucking hole. I’m sick of you gun grabbing motherfuckers saying that just having a gun is a criminal act. Go fuck yourself in your goddamn commie ass.

Whoops, someone need a diaper change?

Having a gun is not a criminal act. I know because I carry one, legally, every day. But if I were brandishing it, or using it to try to compel someone to, say, stop jogging actually qualifies as assault with a deadly weapon. I wouldn't even have to pull the trigger.

Even if we allow for the possibility that Travis and Gregory McMichael wanted to effect a citizens arrest (and there's really no evidence of that), they shoulder a great responsibility in choosing to do that. They had the guns, not Arbery.

The fact that they chased him down render the claims of self defense moot, since they instigated the entire incident. If they wanted to talk, they wouldn't have armed themselves before going after them. A first year law student could show that they intended to do hard to Arbery...

When someone points gun at you, weather policeman like Darren Wilson in Ferguson, or civilian McMichael in Georgia, are you saying that first reaction should be to go for a gun and disarm that person, instead to comply with their request?

I asked that question 400 times. The best I can tell based on his responses is "YES"

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[Canon Shooter]

Don't run left, toward the guy with the gun. Run right, toward the houses.

That's not the behavior of someone in fear for his life.

As has been pointed out to you ad nauseum, he did run around to the right. You're either blind as a bat or profoundly dishonest if you say you can't see that.

Logic and common sense says that there's a better than average chance that, when McMichael ran in front of the truck, he did so in a manner as to completely block Arbery. Maybe he leveled the shotgun at him. Any intelligent person would accept that as being well within the realm of possibility.

You continue to want to blame Arbery for "escalating" this, and you fail, every time. No prosecutor is going to see that, and no jury will agree with a defense attorney who presents it as a defense...

 

[Ame®icano]

Well, that's interesting.

Is it him?

Did you hear that "engaged in no illegal activity"? Well, except trespassing. They forgot that one.

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If it is him, and I'll concede it certainly could be, it does nothing to removed the responsibility for the shooting from Travis McMichael. Travis McMichael didn't see this video. Nothing in it gets McMichael off the hook.

If you kill someone because he trespassed for three minutes, you deserve to be charged with murder...

It looks like this black dude got killed, not because he was trespassing, but because he tried to take a gun away from somebody else. There’s no evidence that anybody threatened him with the gun.

Either way, even if somebody did threaten him with a gun. It is stupid as fuck to go try to take it away from him. That’s a good way to get dead.

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Police transcripts say that the water service was called out to the "crime scene" after Arbery bolted in order to shut off water due to flooding. Does anyone know what happened here? Did he break pipes in the house?