Violence Is The Language They Speak

[Dim Bulb]

I was just thinking, what would the world be like if you took say 20% of the time you put into your screeds and devoted it to demonstrating the courage to find a way to disagree with people without resorting to hate and condemnation? Ironically, you are fostering the blood cult you decry. Try it. Two times out of ten post something that is intended to demonstrate the kind of culture you want. Demonstrate the courage to not give in to name calling.

I don't like the tone of your post.

Come back when you've learned how to speak to your betters.

You have such potential to lead, such amazing energy to put into these posts, and yet you settle for being PC, PC. You could help to change the world, yet all you do is post things that orthodox right wingers will agree with. That's not courage, my fellow citizen. Dare to take a stand and get people to communicate with each other. Be a small part of the change and really get something done! The posts you make are not readable after 2-3 sentences, it's like a movie everyone's seen before. But, if you step out of the bubble and post something different, something that intends to connect, your energy will be so much more constructive for society. Even people of average intelligence can make a difference with a sufficient amount of energy and effort. You clearly have all of these attributes, but do you have the courage to lead?

Unlike you, with your corrupt desire to placate, I am guided by one thing and one thing only: truth.

Your lack of courage is evident, I am fearless.


If you doubt what I say....try to find anything in my posts that is not 100% accurate, correct, and true.

Otherwise.....take a walk.

Honestly, I don't read your posts closely enough to care about the substance, I've heard it all before. It isn't courageous to tell people what they want to hear then crow about it. It's courageous to create a vision of how you would like American culture to be and to systematically and incrementally move towards it. Courageous people don't sit on the sidelines and post, they try to change the world. You could leverage your middling intelligence so much beyond by thinking creatively and strategically about what you want rather than simply repeating bromides we all have heard before. Grab hold of your potential and redefine America in your image!

Incidentally, one ironic thing I"ve noticed about your posts is that they are often in "list" form. You know who used to write his opinions in "list" form oftentimes? Harry Blackmun. Just another way you are behaving like a liberal.

Be sure to get back to me when you grow a spine.

Another liberal personal attack. You misunderstand and are sadly wasting a terrific potential that you clearly posses. Having a spine means being willing to listen, but not appease. Having a spine means looking at the world, seeing its problems, and being willing to do more than just whine about who to blame. A child could accomplish that. President Reagan used to say, "in negotiation it is important to be thought of as stubborn to the point of insanity. But not actually to be stubborn to the point of insanity."

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just one more thing ...

Ohhh....you poor, sad thing, you.

Just one error after another.


Confederate flag is the banner of the Democrats.....supporters of slavery, segregation, and second class citizenship.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just one more thing ...

Ohhh.....and BTW.....Nazis share the very same view of societal evolution as Modern Liberals....like you.


The only possible conclusion is that you are a "spherical imbecile" because you are an imbecile no matter the direction from which you are looked at.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Ohhh.....and BTW.....Nazis share the very same view of societal evolution as Modern Liberals....like you.


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That could not be a more retarded statement if you'd have let me write it for you for the purpose of making you look retarded.

 

[PoliticalChic]

11. "In the last few weeks, the violent rhetoric crossed a fever line. CNN personality Kathy Griffin posed deadpan holding a severed and bloody head resembling Donald Trump; on television the next day, she tearfully denounced the many “old white men” who have supposedly bullied her. New York’s venerable Shakespeare in the Park is currently performing a modern-dress version of Julius Caesar, in which a Trump-qua-Caesar character is murdered every night in a particularly bloody and graphic staging.


Following the shooting [of Republican Congressmen], liberal Twitter erupted in cynical snark. Op-ed writer Malcolm Harris wondered if the shooter could plead self-defense, in the event he had a pre-existing condition.


Sonia Gupta, a Louisiana former prosecutor, counseled her followers not to be too sad about the wounding of Representative Steve Scalise, because “he’s a racist piece of shit and hateful bigot.”



Trump’s opponents in the media, academia, and politics can pretend that their calls for radical action were meant metaphorically or in a nonviolent sense. But they are the ones who opened this box of fear, panic, and rage. Let them take responsibility for the climate that now exists."
Incitement to Violence



Take responsibility?????

Not in the 'Liberal Rule Book.'

 

[Dim Bulb]

11. "In the last few weeks, the violent rhetoric crossed a fever line. CNN personality Kathy Griffin posed deadpan holding a severed and bloody head resembling Donald Trump; on television the next day, she tearfully denounced the many “old white men” who have supposedly bullied her. New York’s venerable Shakespeare in the Park is currently performing a modern-dress version of Julius Caesar, in which a Trump-qua-Caesar character is murdered every night in a particularly bloody and graphic staging.


Following the shooting [of Republican Congressmen], liberal Twitter erupted in cynical snark. Op-ed writer Malcolm Harris wondered if the shooter could plead self-defense, in the event he had a pre-existing condition.


Sonia Gupta, a Louisiana former prosecutor, counseled her followers not to be too sad about the wounding of Representative Steve Scalise, because “he’s a racist piece of shit and hateful bigot.”



Trump’s opponents in the media, academia, and politics can pretend that their calls for radical action were meant metaphorically or in a nonviolent sense. But they are the ones who opened this box of fear, panic, and rage. Let them take responsibility for the climate that now exists."
Incitement to Violence



Take responsibility?????

Not in the 'Liberal Rule Book.'

Have you read the play? It is one of the most eloquent statements against political assassination ever.

 

[Dim Bulb]

11. "In the last few weeks, the violent rhetoric crossed a fever line. CNN personality Kathy Griffin posed deadpan holding a severed and bloody head resembling Donald Trump; on television the next day, she tearfully denounced the many “old white men” who have supposedly bullied her. New York’s venerable Shakespeare in the Park is currently performing a modern-dress version of Julius Caesar, in which a Trump-qua-Caesar character is murdered every night in a particularly bloody and graphic staging.


Following the shooting [of Republican Congressmen], liberal Twitter erupted in cynical snark. Op-ed writer Malcolm Harris wondered if the shooter could plead self-defense, in the event he had a pre-existing condition.


Sonia Gupta, a Louisiana former prosecutor, counseled her followers not to be too sad about the wounding of Representative Steve Scalise, because “he’s a racist piece of shit and hateful bigot.”



Trump’s opponents in the media, academia, and politics can pretend that their calls for radical action were meant metaphorically or in a nonviolent sense. But they are the ones who opened this box of fear, panic, and rage. Let them take responsibility for the climate that now exists."
Incitement to Violence



Take responsibility?????

Not in the 'Liberal Rule Book.'

Have you read the play? It is one of the most eloquent statements against political assassination ever.

Never mind. I just realized what I was asking.

 

[MaryL]

I have to admit liberals scare the hell out of me. Their intolerance is shocking, that Bernie Sanders guy trying to shoot down innocent peeps, well, its speaks volumes for human nature and the need for gun control.

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I have to admit liberals scare the hell out of me. Their intolerance is shocking, that Bernie Sanders guy trying to shoot down innocent peeps, well, its speaks volumes for human nature and the need for gun control.

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Another day, another threat of violence by the Left.....Democrats, Liberals, Progressives.


"President Donald Trump’s 44-year-old chairman of the Federal Communication Commission (FCC) is calling for “more civil discourse” following the attempted assassination of Republicans at a congressional baseball practice — and his call is personal.

Ajit Pai has been under intense incendiary attacks and even physical threat by the left and its mob followers. He has been threatened, his home surrounded by militant protesters, with his family and neighbors shaken.

.....by activists tied to Occupy Wall Street, the “resistance” to Trump’s governance, the Ford Foundation and George Soros’s funded groups."
Net Neutrality To Congressional Baseball Shooting: Ajit Pai Advises America On The Future [VIDEO]

 

[MaryL]

I have to admit liberals scare the hell out of me. Their intolerance is shocking, that Bernie Sanders guy trying to shoot down innocent peeps, well, its speaks volumes for human nature and the need for gun control.

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I have to admit liberals scare the hell out of me. Their intolerance is shocking, that Bernie Sanders guy trying to shoot down innocent peeps, well, its speaks volumes for human nature and the need for gun control.

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

"We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

OMG.

Clearly I'm speaking to a child, one who has lost contact with reality.

Have a nice day.

 

[MaryL]

I have to admit liberals scare the hell out of me. Their intolerance is shocking, that Bernie Sanders guy trying to shoot down innocent peeps, well, its speaks volumes for human nature and the need for gun control.

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

"We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

OMG.

Clearly I'm speaking to a child, one who has lost contact with reality.

Have a nice day.

Umm, OK, Why are you sinking to condescension now? That solves nothing.

 

[Dim Bulb]

I have to admit liberals scare the hell out of me. Their intolerance is shocking, that Bernie Sanders guy trying to shoot down innocent peeps, well, its speaks volumes for human nature and the need for gun control.

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

When things get hard, that's when real courage begins. I think though it is impractical to try to eliminate guns from society. It will never happen. We can't even keep them out of the hands of people on the No Fly List, for goodness sakes. However, if we begin now to create a society and culture that does not accept gun violence, in Chicago, in Orlando, or wherever, the weight of our fellow Americans creating this culture will ultimately succeed. It will take generations, and people with the courage to do what many don't want to do any more: try.

 

[Dim Bulb]

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

"We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

OMG.

Clearly I'm speaking to a child, one who has lost contact with reality.

Have a nice day.

Umm, OK, Why are you sinking to condescension now? That solves nothing.

It is what she does. A liberal tactic.

 

[MaryL]

I have to admit liberals scare the hell out of me. Their intolerance is shocking, that Bernie Sanders guy trying to shoot down innocent peeps, well, its speaks volumes for human nature and the need for gun control.

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

When things get hard, that's when real courage begins. I think though it is impractical to try to eliminate guns from society. It will never happen. We can't even keep them out of the hands of people on the No Fly List, for goodness sakes. However, if we begin now to create a society and culture that does not accept gun violence, in Chicago, in Orlando, or wherever, the weight of our fellow Americans creating this culture will ultimately succeed. It will take generations, and people with the courage to do what many don't want to do any more: try.

Well obsolescence and time will eventualy remove firearms from criminals like the model A, if they were taken out of the equation. This insistence on keeping them is the problem, because we need to defend ourselves from people WITH guns. I have never owned a gun, and other than the police, nobody else NEEDS them, either.

 

[Dim Bulb]

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

When things get hard, that's when real courage begins. I think though it is impractical to try to eliminate guns from society. It will never happen. We can't even keep them out of the hands of people on the No Fly List, for goodness sakes. However, if we begin now to create a society and culture that does not accept gun violence, in Chicago, in Orlando, or wherever, the weight of our fellow Americans creating this culture will ultimately succeed. It will take generations, and people with the courage to do what many don't want to do any more: try.

Well obsolescence and time will eventualy remove firearms from criminals like the model A, if they were taken out of the equation. This insistence on keeping them is the problem, because we need to defend ourselves from people WITH guns. I have never owned a gun, and other than the police, nobody else NEEDS them, either.

I grew up with guns, had a .22 rifle in my closet from as early as I can remember. But I would've never thought to use it against another person. So gun culture where I lived was strong. But I didn't see it as something that was necessary or unnecessary, it was just part of life. And if everyone had the same attitude as I did about its use, you could have all the guns you want and nobody would get hurt by them. It's culture, not the guns, in my opinion. I don't think we'll ever get rid of them, so we have to instill a culture of life, as Jesus taught us.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No, Mary....it's not about guns.
If guns kill people, I guess pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk, and spoons make people fat.


No....it's about Democrat-control


The problem you've highlighted would be solved if no Leftist.....Democrat, Liberals, Progressive, Socialist, Nazi, Fascist or Communist where ever...EVER......allowed to attain a position of political power.


Violence is embedded in their politics, and if not guns, they would encourage the easily led to stomp out any opposition.
Then we'd be worried about boots.

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

"We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

OMG.

Clearly I'm speaking to a child, one who has lost contact with reality.

Have a nice day.

Umm, OK, Why are you sinking to condescension now? That solves nothing.

"Why are you sinking to condescension now?"
I was pointing out.....in the kindest way possible....that your IQ has devolved to a single digit.


"That solves nothing."
Keeping you out of an adult conversation is the solution.


This remains the most counter-intuitive statement of the day.
Maybe the week.
""We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

 

[Dim Bulb]

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

"We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

OMG.

Clearly I'm speaking to a child, one who has lost contact with reality.

Have a nice day.

Umm, OK, Why are you sinking to condescension now? That solves nothing.

"Why are you sinking to condescension now?"
I was pointing out.....in the kindest way possible....that your IQ has devolved to a single digit.


"That solves nothing."
Keeping you out of an adult conversation is the solution.


This remains the most counter-intuitive statement of the day.
Maybe the week.
""We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

Look, I kind of get you’ve never been seen as one of the smartest ones in school, or at your job, or among your friends. But you have clearly always made up for it with incredible determination and effort, which is an amazing gift! I’m just saying that you should consider using that gift of determination and effort to do something really courageous and different, rather than just parroting all this mainstream attack stuff. You could be a force for change instead of a chirping repetitive conservative PC sheep who uses liberal attack methods and unreadable screeds of factoids instead of deeper thought. And you wonder why society isn't the way you want it? Hint: You bear responsibility for how you approach change.


In the Odyssey, Homer counseled men (and women, I suppose), to look to themselves for solutions because otherwise they make their problems worse: “'Lo you now, how vainly mortal men do blame the gods! For of us they say comes evil, whereas they even of themselves, through the blindness of their own hearts, have sorrows beyond that which is ordained.”


And Shakespeare, in the very play you cite above, makes the same point (more eloquently, of course): “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves.”


So Jesus, Homer and Shakespeare see it my way. Who’ve you got on your side?

 

[MaryL]

I hate to be contradictory, but YES, it IS about GUNS. We are all weak and prone to human flaws. We don't need guns in this society anymore, they are a an anachronism. One we are better off leaving in the past.

Please don't ever feel you need to apologize for disagreeing with me...
I'm not a Liberal, and never mind defending my position.



"We don't need guns in this society anymore."

1. As we gave seen, there is no way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
QED....the rest of us do need guns.

2. Licensed gun owners are the most law-abiding of citizens. They would lose their permits for any weapons-related infraction. It doesn’t happen

1. Example: “Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.”
2. Few crimes committed by concealed-carry permit holders in Kansas
3. http://www.kansas.com/2012/11/17/2572467/few-crimes-committed-by-concealed.html ( .00086%)

3. The CDC studied laws throughout the country, and found: “In summary, the Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws reviewed for preventing violence.” http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/rr/rr5214.pdf


4. According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year -- one Defensive Gun Use every 13 seconds.

5. And....I don't want any politician...nor you....deciding whether I need a gun.
I'll decide that.

I respectfully disagree. This is a cyclical argument based on the notion "We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can. Why NOT? We just need to actually work harder to remove them from our society, it would take time and effort. And determination. Something we seem to lack as a culture.

"We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

OMG.

Clearly I'm speaking to a child, one who has lost contact with reality.

Have a nice day.

Umm, OK, Why are you sinking to condescension now? That solves nothing.

"Why are you sinking to condescension now?"
I was pointing out.....in the kindest way possible....that your IQ has devolved to a single digit.


"That solves nothing."
Keeping you out of an adult conversation is the solution.


This remains the most counter-intuitive statement of the day.
Maybe the week.
""We can't keep guns out of the hands of criminals'. Yes, we can."

Please, relax. calling me a child, that's flattering as hell , but sets a negative tone, don't you think? OK. Firearms are cool, and I understand people's fetish for them to a degree. We have to get past that obsession for fire arms, THAT is the real problem here. It's like trying to quit smoking, but on a cultural level.