Violent criminals are just a myth, until they aren't and you need a gun to stop them.

[Daryl Hunt]

Or you could be in a school when a teacher's gun might go off accidently and you may have to shoot back.

And 14 states have already allowed this for years...... and yet it is not a problem.....

The facts, truth and reality show you don't know what you are talking about.

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

Since 2013...
South Dakota Attorney General

BTW... in close quarters someone with a handgun will get the drop on someone with a rifle every time

I see you are expert n Urban Warfare. Newsflash: The AR-15 is a copy of a M-4 which is used for Urban warfare. When going from room to room, it's the most deadly weapon known to man outside of maybe thelight machine gun like the Uzi. If you are trying to defend with a handgun, you just brought a knife to a gunfight.

You wanna bes need to leave this to the professionals. And lst the Swats with their special weapons handle it. Better the Teachers do the defensive measure to ensure there are no students to be shot in the first place. Your Bloodlust just gets innocents killed. But as long as it's someone else dying, what do you care. It just furthers your agenda.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Or you could be in a school when a teacher's gun might go off accidently and you may have to shoot back.

And 14 states have already allowed this for years...... and yet it is not a problem.....

The facts, truth and reality show you don't know what you are talking about.

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

At least two of your links have the accidents caused by police officers or reserve officers.....teaching classes, not teachers in the school....you twit.

And two of your links simply repeat the story of the police officers from the other two links....

so out of all the schools that now allow armed teachers, you have one accidental discharge.....while you claimed it was happening all the time...

But thanks for posting more crap.....

I just grabbed the first few. There were many, many more. Total, until the Teachers stood up and said NO, we had 71 a year accidental firearm accidents in our schools per year. And it didn't matter whom was doing the accidental discharge. Having loaded firearms in the Schools is a bad idea unless it's by a security guard who doesn't give firearms demonstrations to students. Leave the damned things holstered with the safety straps in place unless there really IS a bad guy. If the students need firearms safety lessons, get it at home. Your bloodlust just gets others wounded or killed but it's okay as long as it's someone else or someone else's kid.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Or you could be in a school when a teacher's gun might go off accidently and you may have to shoot back.

And 14 states have already allowed this for years...... and yet it is not a problem.....

The facts, truth and reality show you don't know what you are talking about.

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

You don't know what you are talking about....

Here’s all the states where teachers already carry guns in the classroom

Florida is on the verge of becoming the 15th state to arm teachers after Gov. Rick Scott signed an omnibus bill Friday allowing school staff to undergo law enforcement training to carry guns in the classroom.

Although the notion may seem radical, at least 14 states already arm teachers, according to a VICE News review of state laws and interviews with education department officials and school board associations around the country. Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, and Washington.


Another 16 states give local school boards the authority to decide whether school staff can carry guns, either explicitly or through legal loopholes, but officials said they didn’t know of any instances of armed teachers in those states.

You cherry picked the article. You left out the parts where only Florida actually has signed a law enabling the Schools to be armed. Here in Colorado, one of those 15 states you claim, it's ambiguous and left up to the local school boards. Except none of the school boards have approved their Teachers to be armed. You left out the fact (and it's in your cite) that if a school does allow their teachers to be armed, their Insurance will be dropped. To prove that your claim is false, all I have to do is find one state that doesn't have any school with teachers armed. And that one state is the one I am in and that is Colorado.

Now, to prove your point, name the school systems where the teachers are actually armed. Not the X number in X State but the actual District itself. If you are doing this to deter school shootings one would think you would want the public to know about it so the bad guy could go where there aren't any armed teachers according to your own logic. Here is your chance to either win one or get our ass handed to you once again.

 

[2aguy]

And 14 states have already allowed this for years...... and yet it is not a problem.....

The facts, truth and reality show you don't know what you are talking about.

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

Since 2013...
South Dakota Attorney General

BTW... in close quarters someone with a handgun will get the drop on someone with a rifle every time

I see you are expert n Urban Warfare. Newsflash: The AR-15 is a copy of a M-4 which is used for Urban warfare. When going from room to room, it's the most deadly weapon known to man outside of maybe thelight machine gun like the Uzi. If you are trying to defend with a handgun, you just brought a knife to a gunfight.

You wanna bes need to leave this to the professionals. And lst the Swats with their special weapons handle it. Better the Teachers do the defensive measure to ensure there are no students to be shot in the first place. Your Bloodlust just gets innocents killed. But as long as it's someone else dying, what do you care. It just furthers your agenda.

wrong....you don't know what you are talking about.

First, mass shooters rarely if ever engage in gun fights with law abiding citizens or cops who confront them with guns...they run away, as happened in Parkland, commit suicide, vegas, or surrender, Aurora....to name a few.

Second, in the close quarters of a building the advantages of an AR-15 are negated by the close quarters..... a rifle is better at long range, where a pistol can't hit the target accurately beyond 50 feet without exceptional marksmanship....

You are really stupid.

 

[2aguy]

And 14 states have already allowed this for years...... and yet it is not a problem.....

The facts, truth and reality show you don't know what you are talking about.

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

At least two of your links have the accidents caused by police officers or reserve officers.....teaching classes, not teachers in the school....you twit.

And two of your links simply repeat the story of the police officers from the other two links....

so out of all the schools that now allow armed teachers, you have one accidental discharge.....while you claimed it was happening all the time...

But thanks for posting more crap.....

I just grabbed the first few. There were many, many more. Total, until the Teachers stood up and said NO, we had 71 a year accidental firearm accidents in our schools per year. And it didn't matter whom was doing the accidental discharge. Having loaded firearms in the Schools is a bad idea unless it's by a security guard who doesn't give firearms demonstrations to students. Leave the damned things holstered with the safety straps in place unless there really IS a bad guy. If the students need firearms safety lessons, get it at home. Your bloodlust just gets others wounded or killed but it's okay as long as it's someone else or someone else's kid.

You are lying.... you just lied without shame.... you are vile.

 

[Aba Incieni]

Complete and utter bullshit

CCW permit holders are some of the most law abiding people in the country.

I feel sorry for them

I can’t imagine going through life with such fear

Only morons think being prepared is the same as being afraid

Do you think everyone with insurance is fearful?

Do you think everyone who fastens a safety belt in a car or locks their doors at home is fearful?

Being prepared my ass

I can see if you have a dangerous job, live in a dangerous area or have to handle large amount of money

But if you think you need to carry your gun into Walmart, sleep with a loaded gun, keep a gun under your car seat.......you are a paranoid coward

I can’t see living my life like that

You might wish you had one. And soon.

Don’t need one

I have a Big Stick with a Nail in it
Nobody fuks with me

Let's hope your cavewoman approach beats modern technology.

 

[2aguy]

And 14 states have already allowed this for years...... and yet it is not a problem.....

The facts, truth and reality show you don't know what you are talking about.

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

You don't know what you are talking about....

Here’s all the states where teachers already carry guns in the classroom

Florida is on the verge of becoming the 15th state to arm teachers after Gov. Rick Scott signed an omnibus bill Friday allowing school staff to undergo law enforcement training to carry guns in the classroom.

Although the notion may seem radical, at least 14 states already arm teachers, according to a VICE News review of state laws and interviews with education department officials and school board associations around the country. Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, and Washington.


Another 16 states give local school boards the authority to decide whether school staff can carry guns, either explicitly or through legal loopholes, but officials said they didn’t know of any instances of armed teachers in those states.

You cherry picked the article. You left out the parts where only Florida actually has signed a law enabling the Schools to be armed. Here in Colorado, one of those 15 states you claim, it's ambiguous and left up to the local school boards. Except none of the school boards have approved their Teachers to be armed. You left out the fact (and it's in your cite) that if a school does allow their teachers to be armed, their Insurance will be dropped. To prove that your claim is false, all I have to do is find one state that doesn't have any school with teachers armed. And that one state is the one I am in and that is Colorado.

Now, to prove your point, name the school systems where the teachers are actually armed. Not the X number in X State but the actual District itself. If you are doing this to deter school shootings one would think you would want the public to know about it so the bad guy could go where there aren't any armed teachers according to your own logic. Here is your chance to either win one or get our ass handed to you once again.

You really are a twit...

Katie Pavlich - Here's a List of School Districts That Already Allow Teachers to Be Armed

Texas, where 110 school districts have armed teachers and administrators:

Guns in school: It's not just an idea. Here's how some states are already doing it

In Texas, some teachers have carried guns to school for years. The state is home to 172 school districts out of 1,023 statewide that have a policy allowing staff to carry firearms, per the Texas Association of School Boards. Most districts made the decision to arm staff after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut that killed 26 people, mostly young children.


Texas school administrators operating under what’s known as the Guardian Plan are allowed to carry handguns on them or keep them locked in a safe. Schools receive stipends under the plan to cover ammunition for practice and annual tactical training. The plan is just one of three ways Texas public schools can arm staff. Others include forming police forces and establishing school marshals. Districts also may contract with security firms and law enforcement to patrol campuses.
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Missouri schools have been arming teachers for years, too. Aaron Sydow, the superintendent of the Fairview R-XI School District in West Plains, said when he started in education 20 years ago, he could not have imagined teachers walking the hallways with concealed handguns, but this is a different day and age.

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In Utah, anyone with a concealed carry permit may carry a gun in a school if approved by a school administrator. In Southern Utah, at least one shooting range offers a gunfighting course specifically geared toward educators carrying guns in the classroom.

The response has been different in Indiana, a state that allows teachers to be armed. Just one school district in the state has allowed firearms on school grounds. But that could change, as at least one other district is considering the policy.
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Arizona teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — state superintendent says

But Arizona may be ahead of this curve. Here teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — according to the state's top education administrator.

State statutes essentially already allow local school boards to give school employees permission to carry guns on a public district or charter school campus, state Superintendent Diane Douglas said Feb. 28 on the Bill Buckmaster Show on KVOI-AM, Tucson, Ariz.

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President Trump supports arming teachers; here's how West Texas has done it for years

CHRISTOVAL, Texas — One by one, David Walker placed the arsenal on his desk. A 16-inch AR-15 carbine, a 12-gauge pump shotgun, a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber and a full-size Smith & Wesson M&P .45 handgun.

“The board and I believe that teachers acting as unarmed shields is unrealistic,” said Walker, superintendent at Christoval Independent School District, which educates 526 students at two campuses in the small West Texas town

They wish guns had no place in schools, but they have embraced the need. After the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut killed 26, Christoval became the second district in Texas to arm staff using the Guardian Plan.

In 2013 signs went up on school grounds and entrances warning: Staff are armed and will use whatever force is necessary to protect our students and employees.

 

[rightwinger]

I feel sorry for them

I can’t imagine going through life with such fear

Only morons think being prepared is the same as being afraid

Do you think everyone with insurance is fearful?

Do you think everyone who fastens a safety belt in a car or locks their doors at home is fearful?

Being prepared my ass

I can see if you have a dangerous job, live in a dangerous area or have to handle large amount of money

But if you think you need to carry your gun into Walmart, sleep with a loaded gun, keep a gun under your car seat.......you are a paranoid coward

I can’t see living my life like that

You might wish you had one. And soon.

Don’t need one

I have a Big Stick with a Nail in it
Nobody fuks with me

Let's hope your cavewoman approach beats modern technology.

Everyone runs and says.......here comes right winger with his big stick!

 

[BULLDOG]

Only morons think being prepared is the same as being afraid

Do you think everyone with insurance is fearful?

Do you think everyone who fastens a safety belt in a car or locks their doors at home is fearful?

Being prepared my ass

I can see if you have a dangerous job, live in a dangerous area or have to handle large amount of money

But if you think you need to carry your gun into Walmart, sleep with a loaded gun, keep a gun under your car seat.......you are a paranoid coward

I can’t see living my life like that

You might wish you had one. And soon.

Don’t need one

I have a Big Stick with a Nail in it
Nobody fuks with me

Let's hope your cavewoman approach beats modern technology.

Everyone runs and says.......here comes right winger with his big stick!

If it's a republican stick

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

Since 2013...
South Dakota Attorney General

BTW... in close quarters someone with a handgun will get the drop on someone with a rifle every time

I see you are expert n Urban Warfare. Newsflash: The AR-15 is a copy of a M-4 which is used for Urban warfare. When going from room to room, it's the most deadly weapon known to man outside of maybe thelight machine gun like the Uzi. If you are trying to defend with a handgun, you just brought a knife to a gunfight.

You wanna bes need to leave this to the professionals. And lst the Swats with their special weapons handle it. Better the Teachers do the defensive measure to ensure there are no students to be shot in the first place. Your Bloodlust just gets innocents killed. But as long as it's someone else dying, what do you care. It just furthers your agenda.

wrong....you don't know what you are talking about.

First, mass shooters rarely if ever engage in gun fights with law abiding citizens or cops who confront them with guns...they run away, as happened in Parkland, commit suicide, vegas, or surrender, Aurora....to name a few.

Second, in the close quarters of a building the advantages of an AR-15 are negated by the close quarters..... a rifle is better at long range, where a pistol can't hit the target accurately beyond 50 feet without exceptional marksmanship....

You are really stupid.

I must be stupid to have 20plus years military experience and combat time as well. And I would take a M-4 over any handgun anytime of the day or night going from room to room. If you would choose a handgun then you would be dead, dead, dead. Those of us with Military Experience know how to get the job done right and survive the encounter. You rocking chair generals have all the answer. But all your answers are wrong.

Yes, I may be stupid but I am still alive.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

You don't know what you are talking about....

Here’s all the states where teachers already carry guns in the classroom

Florida is on the verge of becoming the 15th state to arm teachers after Gov. Rick Scott signed an omnibus bill Friday allowing school staff to undergo law enforcement training to carry guns in the classroom.

Although the notion may seem radical, at least 14 states already arm teachers, according to a VICE News review of state laws and interviews with education department officials and school board associations around the country. Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, and Washington.


Another 16 states give local school boards the authority to decide whether school staff can carry guns, either explicitly or through legal loopholes, but officials said they didn’t know of any instances of armed teachers in those states.

You cherry picked the article. You left out the parts where only Florida actually has signed a law enabling the Schools to be armed. Here in Colorado, one of those 15 states you claim, it's ambiguous and left up to the local school boards. Except none of the school boards have approved their Teachers to be armed. You left out the fact (and it's in your cite) that if a school does allow their teachers to be armed, their Insurance will be dropped. To prove that your claim is false, all I have to do is find one state that doesn't have any school with teachers armed. And that one state is the one I am in and that is Colorado.

Now, to prove your point, name the school systems where the teachers are actually armed. Not the X number in X State but the actual District itself. If you are doing this to deter school shootings one would think you would want the public to know about it so the bad guy could go where there aren't any armed teachers according to your own logic. Here is your chance to either win one or get our ass handed to you once again.

You really are a twit...

Katie Pavlich - Here's a List of School Districts That Already Allow Teachers to Be Armed

Texas, where 110 school districts have armed teachers and administrators:

Guns in school: It's not just an idea. Here's how some states are already doing it

In Texas, some teachers have carried guns to school for years. The state is home to 172 school districts out of 1,023 statewide that have a policy allowing staff to carry firearms, per the Texas Association of School Boards. Most districts made the decision to arm staff after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut that killed 26 people, mostly young children.


Texas school administrators operating under what’s known as the Guardian Plan are allowed to carry handguns on them or keep them locked in a safe. Schools receive stipends under the plan to cover ammunition for practice and annual tactical training. The plan is just one of three ways Texas public schools can arm staff. Others include forming police forces and establishing school marshals. Districts also may contract with security firms and law enforcement to patrol campuses.
----

Missouri schools have been arming teachers for years, too. Aaron Sydow, the superintendent of the Fairview R-XI School District in West Plains, said when he started in education 20 years ago, he could not have imagined teachers walking the hallways with concealed handguns, but this is a different day and age.

------

In Utah, anyone with a concealed carry permit may carry a gun in a school if approved by a school administrator. In Southern Utah, at least one shooting range offers a gunfighting course specifically geared toward educators carrying guns in the classroom.

The response has been different in Indiana, a state that allows teachers to be armed. Just one school district in the state has allowed firearms on school grounds. But that could change, as at least one other district is considering the policy.
---

Arizona teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — state superintendent says

But Arizona may be ahead of this curve. Here teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — according to the state's top education administrator.

State statutes essentially already allow local school boards to give school employees permission to carry guns on a public district or charter school campus, state Superintendent Diane Douglas said Feb. 28 on the Bill Buckmaster Show on KVOI-AM, Tucson, Ariz.

---

President Trump supports arming teachers; here's how West Texas has done it for years

CHRISTOVAL, Texas — One by one, David Walker placed the arsenal on his desk. A 16-inch AR-15 carbine, a 12-gauge pump shotgun, a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber and a full-size Smith & Wesson M&P .45 handgun.

“The board and I believe that teachers acting as unarmed shields is unrealistic,” said Walker, superintendent at Christoval Independent School District, which educates 526 students at two campuses in the small West Texas town

They wish guns had no place in schools, but they have embraced the need. After the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut killed 26, Christoval became the second district in Texas to arm staff using the Guardian Plan.

In 2013 signs went up on school grounds and entrances warning: Staff are armed and will use whatever force is necessary to protect our students and employees.

You didn't list the Districts. Not a single one. If this were true, then you would have the school district numbers. Now list them or hand me your ass one more time. Hope you have it velcroed on this time so it won't be quite so painful. In case you don't know, arming the Teachers negates their Liability Insurance.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Except MOST State Schools have elected NOT to allow the Teachers and Facility to go armed. The State does not have the finals say. And neither do you. Yes, if a school here in Colorado wants to arm their teachers they can. But the Teachers can so no. And in Colorado they have said no. The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms. Go ahead, be smug. You just found another way that you gun crazies want more killings by guns. Luckily, there are cooler heads in charge.

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

At least two of your links have the accidents caused by police officers or reserve officers.....teaching classes, not teachers in the school....you twit.

And two of your links simply repeat the story of the police officers from the other two links....

so out of all the schools that now allow armed teachers, you have one accidental discharge.....while you claimed it was happening all the time...

But thanks for posting more crap.....

I just grabbed the first few. There were many, many more. Total, until the Teachers stood up and said NO, we had 71 a year accidental firearm accidents in our schools per year. And it didn't matter whom was doing the accidental discharge. Having loaded firearms in the Schools is a bad idea unless it's by a security guard who doesn't give firearms demonstrations to students. Leave the damned things holstered with the safety straps in place unless there really IS a bad guy. If the students need firearms safety lessons, get it at home. Your bloodlust just gets others wounded or killed but it's okay as long as it's someone else or someone else's kid.

You are lying.... you just lied without shame.... you are vile.

Standard Trump logic. When you are caught in a lie, claim that the other person is lying. Stop making shit up.

 

[Rustic]

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

Since 2013...
South Dakota Attorney General

BTW... in close quarters someone with a handgun will get the drop on someone with a rifle every time

I see you are expert n Urban Warfare. Newsflash: The AR-15 is a copy of a M-4 which is used for Urban warfare. When going from room to room, it's the most deadly weapon known to man outside of maybe thelight machine gun like the Uzi. If you are trying to defend with a handgun, you just brought a knife to a gunfight.

You wanna bes need to leave this to the professionals. And lst the Swats with their special weapons handle it. Better the Teachers do the defensive measure to ensure there are no students to be shot in the first place. Your Bloodlust just gets innocents killed. But as long as it's someone else dying, what do you care. It just furthers your agenda.

wrong....you don't know what you are talking about.

First, mass shooters rarely if ever engage in gun fights with law abiding citizens or cops who confront them with guns...they run away, as happened in Parkland, commit suicide, vegas, or surrender, Aurora....to name a few.

Second, in the close quarters of a building the advantages of an AR-15 are negated by the close quarters..... a rifle is better at long range, where a pistol can't hit the target accurately beyond 50 feet without exceptional marksmanship....

You are really stupid.

I must be stupid to have 20plus years military experience and combat time as well. And I would take a M-4 over any handgun anytime of the day or night going from room to room. If you would choose a handgun then you would be dead, dead, dead. Those of us with Military Experience know how to get the job done right and survive the encounter. You rocking chair generals have all the answer. But all your answers are wrong.

Yes, I may be stupid but I am still alive.

Na, you don’t understand the issue

 

[Rustic]

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

You don't know what you are talking about....

Here’s all the states where teachers already carry guns in the classroom

Florida is on the verge of becoming the 15th state to arm teachers after Gov. Rick Scott signed an omnibus bill Friday allowing school staff to undergo law enforcement training to carry guns in the classroom.

Although the notion may seem radical, at least 14 states already arm teachers, according to a VICE News review of state laws and interviews with education department officials and school board associations around the country. Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, and Washington.


Another 16 states give local school boards the authority to decide whether school staff can carry guns, either explicitly or through legal loopholes, but officials said they didn’t know of any instances of armed teachers in those states.

You cherry picked the article. You left out the parts where only Florida actually has signed a law enabling the Schools to be armed. Here in Colorado, one of those 15 states you claim, it's ambiguous and left up to the local school boards. Except none of the school boards have approved their Teachers to be armed. You left out the fact (and it's in your cite) that if a school does allow their teachers to be armed, their Insurance will be dropped. To prove that your claim is false, all I have to do is find one state that doesn't have any school with teachers armed. And that one state is the one I am in and that is Colorado.

Now, to prove your point, name the school systems where the teachers are actually armed. Not the X number in X State but the actual District itself. If you are doing this to deter school shootings one would think you would want the public to know about it so the bad guy could go where there aren't any armed teachers according to your own logic. Here is your chance to either win one or get our ass handed to you once again.

You really are a twit...

Katie Pavlich - Here's a List of School Districts That Already Allow Teachers to Be Armed

Texas, where 110 school districts have armed teachers and administrators:

Guns in school: It's not just an idea. Here's how some states are already doing it

In Texas, some teachers have carried guns to school for years. The state is home to 172 school districts out of 1,023 statewide that have a policy allowing staff to carry firearms, per the Texas Association of School Boards. Most districts made the decision to arm staff after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut that killed 26 people, mostly young children.


Texas school administrators operating under what’s known as the Guardian Plan are allowed to carry handguns on them or keep them locked in a safe. Schools receive stipends under the plan to cover ammunition for practice and annual tactical training. The plan is just one of three ways Texas public schools can arm staff. Others include forming police forces and establishing school marshals. Districts also may contract with security firms and law enforcement to patrol campuses.
----

Missouri schools have been arming teachers for years, too. Aaron Sydow, the superintendent of the Fairview R-XI School District in West Plains, said when he started in education 20 years ago, he could not have imagined teachers walking the hallways with concealed handguns, but this is a different day and age.

------

In Utah, anyone with a concealed carry permit may carry a gun in a school if approved by a school administrator. In Southern Utah, at least one shooting range offers a gunfighting course specifically geared toward educators carrying guns in the classroom.

The response has been different in Indiana, a state that allows teachers to be armed. Just one school district in the state has allowed firearms on school grounds. But that could change, as at least one other district is considering the policy.
---

Arizona teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — state superintendent says

But Arizona may be ahead of this curve. Here teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — according to the state's top education administrator.

State statutes essentially already allow local school boards to give school employees permission to carry guns on a public district or charter school campus, state Superintendent Diane Douglas said Feb. 28 on the Bill Buckmaster Show on KVOI-AM, Tucson, Ariz.

---

President Trump supports arming teachers; here's how West Texas has done it for years

CHRISTOVAL, Texas — One by one, David Walker placed the arsenal on his desk. A 16-inch AR-15 carbine, a 12-gauge pump shotgun, a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber and a full-size Smith & Wesson M&P .45 handgun.

“The board and I believe that teachers acting as unarmed shields is unrealistic,” said Walker, superintendent at Christoval Independent School District, which educates 526 students at two campuses in the small West Texas town

They wish guns had no place in schools, but they have embraced the need. After the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut killed 26, Christoval became the second district in Texas to arm staff using the Guardian Plan.

In 2013 signs went up on school grounds and entrances warning: Staff are armed and will use whatever force is necessary to protect our students and employees.

You didn't list the Districts. Not a single one. If this were true, then you would have the school district numbers. Now list them or hand me your ass one more time. Hope you have it velcroed on this time so it won't be quite so painful. In case you don't know, arming the Teachers negates their Liability Insurance.

Lol
Na, You’re talking out of your ass... you silly little fucker
South Dakota Attorney General

 

[Aba Incieni]

Only morons think being prepared is the same as being afraid

Do you think everyone with insurance is fearful?

Do you think everyone who fastens a safety belt in a car or locks their doors at home is fearful?

Being prepared my ass

I can see if you have a dangerous job, live in a dangerous area or have to handle large amount of money

But if you think you need to carry your gun into Walmart, sleep with a loaded gun, keep a gun under your car seat.......you are a paranoid coward

I can’t see living my life like that

You might wish you had one. And soon.

Don’t need one

I have a Big Stick with a Nail in it
Nobody fuks with me

Let's hope your cavewoman approach beats modern technology.

Everyone runs and says.......here comes right winger with his big stick!

Your last thought will be, "I brought a stick to a gunfight."

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

Since 2013...
South Dakota Attorney General

BTW... in close quarters someone with a handgun will get the drop on someone with a rifle every time

I see you are expert n Urban Warfare. Newsflash: The AR-15 is a copy of a M-4 which is used for Urban warfare. When going from room to room, it's the most deadly weapon known to man outside of maybe thelight machine gun like the Uzi. If you are trying to defend with a handgun, you just brought a knife to a gunfight.

You wanna bes need to leave this to the professionals. And lst the Swats with their special weapons handle it. Better the Teachers do the defensive measure to ensure there are no students to be shot in the first place. Your Bloodlust just gets innocents killed. But as long as it's someone else dying, what do you care. It just furthers your agenda.

wrong....you don't know what you are talking about.

First, mass shooters rarely if ever engage in gun fights with law abiding citizens or cops who confront them with guns...they run away, as happened in Parkland, commit suicide, vegas, or surrender, Aurora....to name a few.

Second, in the close quarters of a building the advantages of an AR-15 are negated by the close quarters..... a rifle is better at long range, where a pistol can't hit the target accurately beyond 50 feet without exceptional marksmanship....

You are really stupid.

I must be stupid to have 20plus years military experience and combat time as well. And I would take a M-4 over any handgun anytime of the day or night going from room to room. If you would choose a handgun then you would be dead, dead, dead. Those of us with Military Experience know how to get the job done right and survive the encounter. You rocking chair generals have all the answer. But all your answers are wrong.

Yes, I may be stupid but I am still alive.

Na, you don’t understand the issue

Using sane and experienced logic, I can never understand stark raving mad insanity.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

You don't know what you are talking about....

Here’s all the states where teachers already carry guns in the classroom

Florida is on the verge of becoming the 15th state to arm teachers after Gov. Rick Scott signed an omnibus bill Friday allowing school staff to undergo law enforcement training to carry guns in the classroom.

Although the notion may seem radical, at least 14 states already arm teachers, according to a VICE News review of state laws and interviews with education department officials and school board associations around the country. Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, and Washington.


Another 16 states give local school boards the authority to decide whether school staff can carry guns, either explicitly or through legal loopholes, but officials said they didn’t know of any instances of armed teachers in those states.

You cherry picked the article. You left out the parts where only Florida actually has signed a law enabling the Schools to be armed. Here in Colorado, one of those 15 states you claim, it's ambiguous and left up to the local school boards. Except none of the school boards have approved their Teachers to be armed. You left out the fact (and it's in your cite) that if a school does allow their teachers to be armed, their Insurance will be dropped. To prove that your claim is false, all I have to do is find one state that doesn't have any school with teachers armed. And that one state is the one I am in and that is Colorado.

Now, to prove your point, name the school systems where the teachers are actually armed. Not the X number in X State but the actual District itself. If you are doing this to deter school shootings one would think you would want the public to know about it so the bad guy could go where there aren't any armed teachers according to your own logic. Here is your chance to either win one or get our ass handed to you once again.

You really are a twit...

Katie Pavlich - Here's a List of School Districts That Already Allow Teachers to Be Armed

Texas, where 110 school districts have armed teachers and administrators:

Guns in school: It's not just an idea. Here's how some states are already doing it

In Texas, some teachers have carried guns to school for years. The state is home to 172 school districts out of 1,023 statewide that have a policy allowing staff to carry firearms, per the Texas Association of School Boards. Most districts made the decision to arm staff after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut that killed 26 people, mostly young children.


Texas school administrators operating under what’s known as the Guardian Plan are allowed to carry handguns on them or keep them locked in a safe. Schools receive stipends under the plan to cover ammunition for practice and annual tactical training. The plan is just one of three ways Texas public schools can arm staff. Others include forming police forces and establishing school marshals. Districts also may contract with security firms and law enforcement to patrol campuses.
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Missouri schools have been arming teachers for years, too. Aaron Sydow, the superintendent of the Fairview R-XI School District in West Plains, said when he started in education 20 years ago, he could not have imagined teachers walking the hallways with concealed handguns, but this is a different day and age.

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In Utah, anyone with a concealed carry permit may carry a gun in a school if approved by a school administrator. In Southern Utah, at least one shooting range offers a gunfighting course specifically geared toward educators carrying guns in the classroom.

The response has been different in Indiana, a state that allows teachers to be armed. Just one school district in the state has allowed firearms on school grounds. But that could change, as at least one other district is considering the policy.
---

Arizona teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — state superintendent says

But Arizona may be ahead of this curve. Here teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — according to the state's top education administrator.

State statutes essentially already allow local school boards to give school employees permission to carry guns on a public district or charter school campus, state Superintendent Diane Douglas said Feb. 28 on the Bill Buckmaster Show on KVOI-AM, Tucson, Ariz.

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President Trump supports arming teachers; here's how West Texas has done it for years

CHRISTOVAL, Texas — One by one, David Walker placed the arsenal on his desk. A 16-inch AR-15 carbine, a 12-gauge pump shotgun, a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber and a full-size Smith & Wesson M&P .45 handgun.

“The board and I believe that teachers acting as unarmed shields is unrealistic,” said Walker, superintendent at Christoval Independent School District, which educates 526 students at two campuses in the small West Texas town

They wish guns had no place in schools, but they have embraced the need. After the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut killed 26, Christoval became the second district in Texas to arm staff using the Guardian Plan.

In 2013 signs went up on school grounds and entrances warning: Staff are armed and will use whatever force is necessary to protect our students and employees.

You didn't list the Districts. Not a single one. If this were true, then you would have the school district numbers. Now list them or hand me your ass one more time. Hope you have it velcroed on this time so it won't be quite so painful. In case you don't know, arming the Teachers negates their Liability Insurance.

Lol
Na, You’re talking out of your ass... you silly little fucker
South Dakota Attorney General

Here we go again. Get a good grip on your ass. Name the districts that have their teachers armed. Not the State that offers the training but the District Numbers. But before you do, be aware that when the Teachers go in armed, the Insurance Companies remove their Liability Insurance.

 

[Rustic]

You don't know what you are talking about....

Here’s all the states where teachers already carry guns in the classroom

Florida is on the verge of becoming the 15th state to arm teachers after Gov. Rick Scott signed an omnibus bill Friday allowing school staff to undergo law enforcement training to carry guns in the classroom.

Although the notion may seem radical, at least 14 states already arm teachers, according to a VICE News review of state laws and interviews with education department officials and school board associations around the country. Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, and Washington.


Another 16 states give local school boards the authority to decide whether school staff can carry guns, either explicitly or through legal loopholes, but officials said they didn’t know of any instances of armed teachers in those states.

You cherry picked the article. You left out the parts where only Florida actually has signed a law enabling the Schools to be armed. Here in Colorado, one of those 15 states you claim, it's ambiguous and left up to the local school boards. Except none of the school boards have approved their Teachers to be armed. You left out the fact (and it's in your cite) that if a school does allow their teachers to be armed, their Insurance will be dropped. To prove that your claim is false, all I have to do is find one state that doesn't have any school with teachers armed. And that one state is the one I am in and that is Colorado.

Now, to prove your point, name the school systems where the teachers are actually armed. Not the X number in X State but the actual District itself. If you are doing this to deter school shootings one would think you would want the public to know about it so the bad guy could go where there aren't any armed teachers according to your own logic. Here is your chance to either win one or get our ass handed to you once again.

You really are a twit...

Katie Pavlich - Here's a List of School Districts That Already Allow Teachers to Be Armed

Texas, where 110 school districts have armed teachers and administrators:

Guns in school: It's not just an idea. Here's how some states are already doing it

In Texas, some teachers have carried guns to school for years. The state is home to 172 school districts out of 1,023 statewide that have a policy allowing staff to carry firearms, per the Texas Association of School Boards. Most districts made the decision to arm staff after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut that killed 26 people, mostly young children.


Texas school administrators operating under what’s known as the Guardian Plan are allowed to carry handguns on them or keep them locked in a safe. Schools receive stipends under the plan to cover ammunition for practice and annual tactical training. The plan is just one of three ways Texas public schools can arm staff. Others include forming police forces and establishing school marshals. Districts also may contract with security firms and law enforcement to patrol campuses.
----

Missouri schools have been arming teachers for years, too. Aaron Sydow, the superintendent of the Fairview R-XI School District in West Plains, said when he started in education 20 years ago, he could not have imagined teachers walking the hallways with concealed handguns, but this is a different day and age.

------

In Utah, anyone with a concealed carry permit may carry a gun in a school if approved by a school administrator. In Southern Utah, at least one shooting range offers a gunfighting course specifically geared toward educators carrying guns in the classroom.

The response has been different in Indiana, a state that allows teachers to be armed. Just one school district in the state has allowed firearms on school grounds. But that could change, as at least one other district is considering the policy.
---

Arizona teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — state superintendent says

But Arizona may be ahead of this curve. Here teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — according to the state's top education administrator.

State statutes essentially already allow local school boards to give school employees permission to carry guns on a public district or charter school campus, state Superintendent Diane Douglas said Feb. 28 on the Bill Buckmaster Show on KVOI-AM, Tucson, Ariz.

---

President Trump supports arming teachers; here's how West Texas has done it for years

CHRISTOVAL, Texas — One by one, David Walker placed the arsenal on his desk. A 16-inch AR-15 carbine, a 12-gauge pump shotgun, a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber and a full-size Smith & Wesson M&P .45 handgun.

“The board and I believe that teachers acting as unarmed shields is unrealistic,” said Walker, superintendent at Christoval Independent School District, which educates 526 students at two campuses in the small West Texas town

They wish guns had no place in schools, but they have embraced the need. After the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut killed 26, Christoval became the second district in Texas to arm staff using the Guardian Plan.

In 2013 signs went up on school grounds and entrances warning: Staff are armed and will use whatever force is necessary to protect our students and employees.

You didn't list the Districts. Not a single one. If this were true, then you would have the school district numbers. Now list them or hand me your ass one more time. Hope you have it velcroed on this time so it won't be quite so painful. In case you don't know, arming the Teachers negates their Liability Insurance.

Lol
Na, You’re talking out of your ass... you silly little fucker
South Dakota Attorney General

Here we go again. Get a good grip on your ass. Name the districts that have their teachers armed. Not the State that offers the training but the District Numbers. But before you do, be aware that when the Teachers go in armed, the Insurance Companies remove their Liability Insurance.

Not true....

 

[rightwinger]

Being prepared my ass

I can see if you have a dangerous job, live in a dangerous area or have to handle large amount of money

But if you think you need to carry your gun into Walmart, sleep with a loaded gun, keep a gun under your car seat.......you are a paranoid coward

I can’t see living my life like that

You might wish you had one. And soon.

Don’t need one

I have a Big Stick with a Nail in it
Nobody fuks with me

Let's hope your cavewoman approach beats modern technology.

Everyone runs and says.......here comes right winger with his big stick!

Your last thought will be, "I brought a stick to a gunfight."

You would regret fighting my stick with a nail in it

You could get a nasty infection

 

[2aguy]

You miss the point...as usual.... the states that have done it have not experienced any of the problems you anti gunners claim will happen.... you can't say anything because there is actual, real world experience....

The ones that said yes had had way too many accidents where students have been hurt of killed by accidental discharge of firearms.

You just pulled that out of your ass, and you lied.... That is an absolute lie, that you just made up......... That is a lie, and that you posted it shows you are a vile human being............

Oh Really.

2 "good guys with guns" accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday

Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

Police: Off-duty officer accidentally discharges gun at school wrestling meet

Teachers and cops keep accidentally firing guns in schools

https://www.good4utah.com/good4utah/teacher-could-face-charges-for-accidentally-
discharging-gun-in-school/205586540

There are a ton of these. In Colorado, NO school has armed Teachers even though they are authorized by the state. But the School boards won't allow it. Instead, the teachers have other methods to combat mass school shootings including armed security guards and lockdown procedures. I have seen the lockdown procedures at work and it works. Even if the bad guy gets into the school grounds he is met with locked doors sooner or later and has to break down metal doors. The students are moved as far from the edges of the buildings as possible. The shooter has no targets to shoot. Meanwhile, Law Enforcement and/or Armed Security is closing in. We had one close call here. The shooter never even made it inside of the school gate before he was swarmed and apprehended. Even then, the school went into a 2 hour lockdown.

If a school has a mass shooting they don't have procedures in place to protect their students and it won't matter if the teachers are armed or not. A handgun against an AR-15 is a poor match if the shooter is determined. Judging from my links above, I have to agree with the Teachers Organizations and say the students are safer with the Teachers not armed. To date, there has been as many students killed and wounded through accidental discharge on school grounds as there has been mass shootings.

You say 14 states. Newsflash: There are 13 states with pending legislation. Only Florida has passed the bill and signed it into law. It's generally left up to the locals to enact such actions and most are not doing it. Even when the State would pass that law. the local Teachers Organizations want no part of it. One local school passed an ordinance that allowed administrators and coaches to have weapons but the weapons had to be kept in lock boxes. How stupid is that when the shooter is standing in your face.

Around here, the only plan that the Teachers will approve (according to the Teachers Union) is Armed Trained Security Guards but they can't find the funds to pay for them. When you don't even have the funds to pay for paper, pencils and books, where you going to get the funding for X number of fully trained and armed Full Time Security Guards.

Are you going to volunteer to get that training and volunteer your time to be that full time Security Guard for Free?

You don't know what you are talking about....

Here’s all the states where teachers already carry guns in the classroom

Florida is on the verge of becoming the 15th state to arm teachers after Gov. Rick Scott signed an omnibus bill Friday allowing school staff to undergo law enforcement training to carry guns in the classroom.

Although the notion may seem radical, at least 14 states already arm teachers, according to a VICE News review of state laws and interviews with education department officials and school board associations around the country. Those states are Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, and Washington.


Another 16 states give local school boards the authority to decide whether school staff can carry guns, either explicitly or through legal loopholes, but officials said they didn’t know of any instances of armed teachers in those states.

You cherry picked the article. You left out the parts where only Florida actually has signed a law enabling the Schools to be armed. Here in Colorado, one of those 15 states you claim, it's ambiguous and left up to the local school boards. Except none of the school boards have approved their Teachers to be armed. You left out the fact (and it's in your cite) that if a school does allow their teachers to be armed, their Insurance will be dropped. To prove that your claim is false, all I have to do is find one state that doesn't have any school with teachers armed. And that one state is the one I am in and that is Colorado.

Now, to prove your point, name the school systems where the teachers are actually armed. Not the X number in X State but the actual District itself. If you are doing this to deter school shootings one would think you would want the public to know about it so the bad guy could go where there aren't any armed teachers according to your own logic. Here is your chance to either win one or get our ass handed to you once again.

You really are a twit...

Katie Pavlich - Here's a List of School Districts That Already Allow Teachers to Be Armed

Texas, where 110 school districts have armed teachers and administrators:

Guns in school: It's not just an idea. Here's how some states are already doing it

In Texas, some teachers have carried guns to school for years. The state is home to 172 school districts out of 1,023 statewide that have a policy allowing staff to carry firearms, per the Texas Association of School Boards. Most districts made the decision to arm staff after the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut that killed 26 people, mostly young children.


Texas school administrators operating under what’s known as the Guardian Plan are allowed to carry handguns on them or keep them locked in a safe. Schools receive stipends under the plan to cover ammunition for practice and annual tactical training. The plan is just one of three ways Texas public schools can arm staff. Others include forming police forces and establishing school marshals. Districts also may contract with security firms and law enforcement to patrol campuses.
----

Missouri schools have been arming teachers for years, too. Aaron Sydow, the superintendent of the Fairview R-XI School District in West Plains, said when he started in education 20 years ago, he could not have imagined teachers walking the hallways with concealed handguns, but this is a different day and age.

------

In Utah, anyone with a concealed carry permit may carry a gun in a school if approved by a school administrator. In Southern Utah, at least one shooting range offers a gunfighting course specifically geared toward educators carrying guns in the classroom.

The response has been different in Indiana, a state that allows teachers to be armed. Just one school district in the state has allowed firearms on school grounds. But that could change, as at least one other district is considering the policy.
---

Arizona teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — state superintendent says

But Arizona may be ahead of this curve. Here teachers already can carry guns in school — with permission — according to the state's top education administrator.

State statutes essentially already allow local school boards to give school employees permission to carry guns on a public district or charter school campus, state Superintendent Diane Douglas said Feb. 28 on the Bill Buckmaster Show on KVOI-AM, Tucson, Ariz.

---

President Trump supports arming teachers; here's how West Texas has done it for years

CHRISTOVAL, Texas — One by one, David Walker placed the arsenal on his desk. A 16-inch AR-15 carbine, a 12-gauge pump shotgun, a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber and a full-size Smith & Wesson M&P .45 handgun.

“The board and I believe that teachers acting as unarmed shields is unrealistic,” said Walker, superintendent at Christoval Independent School District, which educates 526 students at two campuses in the small West Texas town

They wish guns had no place in schools, but they have embraced the need. After the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut killed 26, Christoval became the second district in Texas to arm staff using the Guardian Plan.

In 2013 signs went up on school grounds and entrances warning: Staff are armed and will use whatever force is necessary to protect our students and employees.

You didn't list the Districts. Not a single one. If this were true, then you would have the school district numbers. Now list them or hand me your ass one more time. Hope you have it velcroed on this time so it won't be quite so painful. In case you don't know, arming the Teachers negates their Liability Insurance.

Moron.... you have the links, and from a left wing source......you are a child.