Virginia gun control law kept AR-15 out of hands of DC shooter

[MikeK]

What is the use of laws if the cops and other authorities refuse to do their jobs? This nut called police 6 weeks ago and told them he was hearing voices. He should have been taken right to a mental hospital. Also the cops reported this to the Navy. Yet they didn't do anything about it.
We can thank the libs for him not being taken to a mental hospital. As for the Navy?

Actually you have Mr. Conservative, Ronald Reagan, to thank for it. Because he closed all the mental hospitals, including any of those which could have accommodated Aaron Alexis and other mass shooters in the past -- and those who might emerge in the future because there is no place to properly contain them. Ronald Reagan dumped thousands of crazies onto the public streets.

Ronald Reagan, The Man From General Electric, a professional faker and tool of the corporatocracy, was one of the worst things that ever happened to this Nation.

 

[whitehall]

You could add that Virginia's faulty system allowed a crazy person to purchase firearms and commit the worst atrocity in history on a college campus a couple of years ago. Liberal lawmakers prevented the instant name check from accessing mental health records at that time. The system has apparently been corrected but the victims are still dead.

 

[Defiant1]

Every person on this board who has ever claimed that 'shall not be infringed' means that such a denial of purchase violated the 2nd amendment

did in fact want this person to have gotten that AR15.

It is, btw, a reasonable speculation that the death toll could have easily been double or triple what was had he gone in with that rifle.

We don't know how good of a shot he was with a semi-automatic rifle so the argument could be made that he would have missed more with the rifle.

At the distance he was firing the shotgun may have had a pattern up to 6" wide compared to the .223" of the rifle.

 

[Edgetho]

Tyrannical Virginia Gun Law Kept DC Shooter From Buying AR-15

"Aaron Alexis, who was unable to purchase the AR-15 he wanted last week because Virginia law “prohibits the sale of such weapons to out-of-state buyers.” Instead, he bought “a law-enforcement-style shotgun — an 870 Remington pump-action” — which he used in his deadly rampage Monday.
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"It’s probably worth noting that Alexis had to pump the shotgun each time he fired, and that the Remington has a standard seven-round magazine. An AR-15, on the other hand, fires a round with each pull of the trigger, with a rate of fire much faster than a shotgun’s, and typical magazines hold 20 to 30 rounds, although higher-capacity magazines — 60 to 100 rounds — are also popular. In the Newtown massacre, Adam Lanza managed to fire 155 rounds in under five minutes.
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But, of course, NRA teaches us that laws like this don't work, and that free access to guns saves lives....

Not calling you a liar, but your source is

No, Alexis Did Not Try to Buy an AR-15 | National Review Online

 

[MikeK]

Of course! It is always a good idea for when someone pulls the fire alarm, and the entire population of a building runs for the halls and starirwells at the same time for everyone to start shotting at everyone else that is pointing a gun!

That is a valid concern -- but it exists in proportion to the level of training required to obtain a carry permit. And the need to positively identify a target before shooting should be emphasized in civilian firearms training.

 

[Edgetho]

Again, the whole premise of this thread is based on a lie.....

Did the Navy Yard shooter try to buy an AR-15? « Hot Air


Hoo boy.... Had to edit my ill-fated jaunt into market type-setting out.

Jut go to the link

 

[rockledr]

Now that the facts have been checked and found to be faulty will the OP admit his mistake? Or will he do as liberals typically do and continue with the charade?

 

[The Rabbi]

Tyrannical Virginia Gun Law Kept DC Shooter From Buying AR-15

"Aaron Alexis, who was unable to purchase the AR-15 he wanted last week because Virginia law “prohibits the sale of such weapons to out-of-state buyers.” Instead, he bought “a law-enforcement-style shotgun — an 870 Remington pump-action” — which he used in his deadly rampage Monday.
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"It’s probably worth noting that Alexis had to pump the shotgun each time he fired, and that the Remington has a standard seven-round magazine. An AR-15, on the other hand, fires a round with each pull of the trigger, with a rate of fire much faster than a shotgun’s, and typical magazines hold 20 to 30 rounds, although higher-capacity magazines — 60 to 100 rounds — are also popular. In the Newtown massacre, Adam Lanza managed to fire 155 rounds in under five minutes.
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But, of course, NRA teaches us that laws like this don't work, and that free access to guns saves lives....

OK, for starters there is no evidence he wanted to buy an AR15. An anonymous statement is not proof. Second, if he wanted an AR15 all he had to do was comb Armslist.com or similar sites where he had many ARs he could easily have bought.
Third, his Remington 870 carried anywhere from 5+1 to 8+1 shells. He used 00 buck shot, 9 pellet. Each shell contains 3/4 oz of lead, or 382 grains (which is standard measure for projectiles). Thus each pellet is about 43 grains. By contrast an AR15 shoots a .223 round. That round is one projectile of about 55gr (some run 62 grains). So each bullet is roughly the equivalent of one pellet of 12ga. Which means a fully loaded 870 will carry 54 projectiles (or 81 with the extended magazine) vs. the AR with 30 projectiles in one magazine. Now tell me which one is more lethal.

The anti's get dumber with every telling.

 

[Edgetho]

Now that the facts have been checked and found to be faulty will the OP admit his mistake? Or will he do as liberals typically do and continue with the charade?

No. They'll challenge the source and make ad hominem attacks.

Like they always do

 

[The Rabbi]

Now that the facts have been checked and found to be faulty will the OP admit his mistake? Or will he do as liberals typically do and continue with the charade?

No. They'll challenge the source and make ad hominem attacks.

Like they always do

After they blame George W Bush for it.

 

[rockledr]

Again, the whole premise of this thread is based on a lie.....

Did the Navy Yard shooter try to buy an AR-15? « Hot Air


Hoo boy.... Had to edit my ill-fated jaunt into market type-setting out.

Jut go to the link

Now that the facts have been checked and found to be faulty will the OP admit his mistake? Or will he do as liberals typically do and continue with the charade?

No. They'll challenge the source and make ad hominem attacks.

Like they always do

After they blame George W Bush for it.

Wasn't the Bush tie in already listed here?

The shooter had PTSD from 9-11
Bush ignored intel about 9-11 and let it happen so therefore it must be Bush's fault

 

[Vox]

Tyrannical Virginia Gun Law Kept DC Shooter From Buying AR-15

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and it has made a HUGE impact on the outcome, didn't it?

leftardism is a permanent brain damage

 

[NYcarbineer]

Every person on this board who has ever claimed that 'shall not be infringed' means that such a denial of purchase violated the 2nd amendment

did in fact want this person to have gotten that AR15.

It is, btw, a reasonable speculation that the death toll could have easily been double or triple what was had he gone in with that rifle.

You are a stupid typical libtard lying asshole vulture. You are scum of the earth.

What am I lying about?

 

[Vox]

Tyrannical Virginia Gun Law Kept DC Shooter From Buying AR-15

"Aaron Alexis, who was unable to purchase the AR-15 he wanted last week because Virginia law “prohibits the sale of such weapons to out-of-state buyers.” Instead, he bought “a law-enforcement-style shotgun — an 870 Remington pump-action” — which he used in his deadly rampage Monday.
Read more at Tyrannical Virginia Gun Law Kept DC Shooter From Buying AR-15 "

"It’s probably worth noting that Alexis had to pump the shotgun each time he fired, and that the Remington has a standard seven-round magazine. An AR-15, on the other hand, fires a round with each pull of the trigger, with a rate of fire much faster than a shotgun’s, and typical magazines hold 20 to 30 rounds, although higher-capacity magazines — 60 to 100 rounds — are also popular. In the Newtown massacre, Adam Lanza managed to fire 155 rounds in under five minutes.
Read more at Tyrannical Virginia Gun Law Kept DC Shooter From Buying AR-15 "


But, of course, NRA teaches us that laws like this don't work, and that free acess to guns saves lives....

This is what the gun nuts can't understand...

They are quick to point out the largely laughable and false premise that "Guns prevent crime" supposedly thousands of time an hour.

Yet when you point out that existing gun laws do prevent additional tragedies...it's "you can't prove a negative"...

are you demented, together with the OP?

he obtained AR-15 illegally - without any problem

And shoot his victims with AR-15

 

[RKMBrown]

Every person on this board who has ever claimed that 'shall not be infringed' means that such a denial of purchase violated the 2nd amendment

did in fact want this person to have gotten that AR15.

It is, btw, a reasonable speculation that the death toll could have easily been double or triple what was had he gone in with that rifle.

You are .. lying.

What am I lying about?

Ok that's funny
Firstly, you are lying about the views of every person on this board, with your statement. Secondly, I seriously have no doubt that there is not EVEN ONE person on this board that wanted this person to have picked up an AR15 and then subsequently killed over a dozen people. Further, it is not true that an AR15 would have increased the death toll. To the contrary a shotgun is every bit as much, if not more deadly inside a building than an AR15.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who in this thread believes that this guy should have been barred from legally buying an AR-15 anywhere in the US?

And if so, do you support the laws that would be designed to impose that ban?

 

[Edgetho]

Who in this thread believes that this guy should have been barred from legally buying an AR-15 anywhere in the US?

And if so, do you support the laws that would be designed to impose that ban?

I don't know about him...... But you should

 

[Vox]

libtards have an irrational fear of AR-15.

probably a result of a brain damage, which leftard ideology is.

before showing yourself in your idiocy, dear leftard brethren, it would be much advised to educate oneself what actually is more lethal - an AR-15 or a shotgun or some other available weapon

 

[Vox]

Who in this thread believes that this guy should have been barred from legally buying an AR-15 anywhere in the US?

And if so, do you support the laws that would be designed to impose that ban?

NO, I do not.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who in this thread believes that this guy should have been barred from legally buying an AR-15 anywhere in the US?

And if so, do you support the laws that would be designed to impose that ban?

I don't know about him...... But you should

I'm a veteran with an expert qualification with an M-16, and no felony convictions. Why would I be disqualified?

btw, I'll take your answer as a 'no' and add you to the list of people who support this guy having bought any guns he wanted.