Voter ID terrifies Democrats

[Truthmatters]

see here they are agian completely ignoring hard cold evidence even when its a republican who finds the evidence.

I praise hte honesty of this republican.

How I wish the right was as honest as this guy

 

[The Infidel]

I guess a voter ID (driver's license in most states) is silly huh? I mean who drives, buys beer, writes a check or a host of other routine uses of an ID? Part of the reason DMVs are closing is the advent of mail-in and computers. FOR CONVENIENCE.

TM... you have never answered reaonable questions like this one either....

Why?

see here they are agian completely ignoring hard cold evidence even when its a republican who finds the evidence.

I praise hte honesty of this republican.

How I wish the right was as honest as this guy

Still waiting.....

 

[saveliberty]

I could make sense all day, but it won't help much on a message board.

 

[peach174]

Bla Bla Bla peach.

You are a Bachman historian

I have never agreed with Bachman and what she said.
Not a fan of her at all.
You can't handle facts.
If you really knew our history, you would know what I said is facts.

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"Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."
James Madison.

We were never meant to become socialistic.
Socialism takes our freedom away from us.

 

[Seawytch]

Idiot. Nobody is REGISTERING dead people.

ROFL

Lemming, try a fact once in your life.

{ “Fraudulent applications are the workings of ACORN groups operating from Milwaukee and Chicago who are getting out the vote for Obama. I’m Republican, but I want everyone who should vote to vote. But I want a clean election,” Curley said at a Wednesday news conference.

Lake County elections officials acknowledged they have found problems and had to reject a large portion of the 5,000 registration forms turned in recently by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, an activist group that conducted registration drives across the county this summer.}

ACORN Nailed Registering Dead People in Indiana « Uppity Woman

{In 2008, ACORN registered dead people as well as fictitious voters taken from a phonebook.}

Judge Slaps ACORN With Maximum Fine For Voter Fraud During 2008 Election | Politicons

I know, the leftist hate sites do your thinking: You can't be expected to be aware of your surroundings.

Registration forms do not equate to actual voter registration and they certainly don't equate to VOTING.

ACORN was required, by law, to turn in ALL registration forms, including those they knew to be fraudulent. (but they did flag those they believed to be bogus)

 

[Seawytch]

in your opinion. Thanks for the admission at least

Not opinion, experience.

certainly, that too, based on your earlier post. However, your personal experience is not necessarily indicative of everyone elses, or technically anyone elses, experience. It reflects only your personal situation.

BTW, FWIW, while we generally disagree politically, I do not believe I have ever found you to be a 'mindless lemming'. Now posters like Chris, TM, Rdean, they certainly fit that description.

Look, I'm opposed to voter fraud, period, but I'm also concerned with disenfranchising voters...which the more restrictive laws DO. If we disenfranchise 10 voters for every 1 incident of fraud, it isn't worth it, especially when there are better ways to do it.

 

[saveliberty]

Biggest disenfranchising voter source: Apathy

Biggest reason to include the lazy voter: They are uninformed and easily manipulated.

 

[paulitician]

Why would the Democrats want valid Voter ID requirements? Think about it. The vast majority of their supporters are too lazy and ignorant to get an ID or are Illegal Aliens and criminal Felons. Valid Voter ID requirements only hurt them. It makes it much harder for them to rig Elections. And they know that more than anyone. So don't believe their Race-Baiting hype. It's just a scam.

 

[Conservative]

Why would the Democrats want valid Voter ID requirements? Think about it. The vast majority of their supporters are too lazy and ignorant to get an ID or are Illegal Aliens and criminal Felons. Valid Voter ID requirements only hurt them. It makes it much harder for them to rig Elections. And they know that more than anyone. So don't believe their Race-Baiting hype. It's just a scam.

I do not believe that.

I think many Democrats think that, and so they cry 'it's so hard' when the whole ID thing is brought up.

 

[Big Fitz]

Biggest disenfranchising voter source: Apathy

Biggest reason to include the lazy voter: They are uninformed and easily manipulated.

if it weren't for uninformed voters, the Libs would never win.

 

[paulitician]

These Democrat supporters who are too lazy,criminal,& stupid to get a valid ID are the same people who get their News & information from Whoopie Goldberg farts on The View. They should not be voting.

 

[saveliberty]

Disenfranching someone, by definition, denotes they had something and it was removed. I didn't feel disenfranched when they started requiring me to show my driver's license. I show it as my responsibility to protect the voting system. That nasty little word responsibility.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Registration forms do not equate to actual voter registration and they certainly don't equate to VOTING.

Yet you stomped up and down and huffed that "Idiot. Nobody is REGISTERING dead people."

Until it was proven beyond dispute that the DNC's Brownshirts were doing exactly that.

ACORN was required, by law, to turn in ALL registration forms, including those they knew to be fraudulent. (but they did flag those they believed to be bogus)

That's why they were fined and went to jail.

dims are crooks and liars. When you have a party that is based on a complete and utter contempt for ethics and integrity, as yours is, that's bound to happen...

 

[g5000]

Disenfranching someone, by definition, denotes they had something and it was removed.

That's right. And the voter ID laws in some states disenfranchised registered voters.

I didn't feel disenfranched when they started requiring me to show my driver's license.

Brilliant logic. If you aren't disenfranchised, it isn't happening.

I show it as my responsibility to protect the voting system.

No one has shown this particular protection is necessary. So people are being disenfranchised so you can feel your sweaty little paranoid self is safe from your delusions.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's right. And the voter ID laws in some states disenfranchised registered voters.

Because they're illegal aliens?

Brillian logic. If you aren't disenfranchised, it isn't happening.

Showing ID is required to get food stamps, I think they can handle it to vote.

There is ONE, and ONLY ONE reason to oppose the use of ID in voting, the desire that unqualified people be able to vote.

There is no other reason.

 

[g5000]

These Democrat supporters who are too lazy,criminal,& stupid to get a valid ID are the same people who get their News & information from Whoopie Goldberg farts on The View. They should not be voting.

And you get to decide who can be endowed with the right to vote.


Oh, wait...

 

[g5000]

That's right. And the voter ID laws in some states disenfranchised registered voters.

Because they're illegal aliens?

Nope.

Geezus, I proved all this near the beginning of the topic. Actual citizens who are registered voters were disenfranchised in South Carolina and Texas and Missouri. The Department of Justice and the Supreme Court have both validated these facts.

The Supreme Court even stated that the paranoid delusion behind Voter ID laws has no basis in reality.

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There is ONE, and ONLY ONE reason to oppose the use of ID in voting, the desire that unqualified people be able to vote.

There is no other reason.

Ipse dixit.

More brilliant logic.

Follow closely now.

Voters have been disenfranchised by some voter ID laws. Real people in the real world who are real citizens.

THAT IS THE FUCKING REASON WHY PEOPLE OPPOSE SOME VOTER ID LAWS.

Dipshit.

 

[g5000]

Since this is page 35 of the topic, I will repeat what has been pointed out many times earlier in this topic.

There is no evidence which anyone has been able to find which shows there is some kind of voter fraud occuring which cannot be solved by fixing existing voter registration requirements and can only be solved by Voter ID laws.

Every single case of fraud I have seen provided was the result of flawed voter registration and would not have been prevented by Voter ID.

 

[Conservative]

The Supreme Court even stated that the paranoid delusion behind Voter ID laws has no basis in reality.

That would be the same SCOTUS that has upheld Voter ID laws as constitutional, right?

 

[g5000]

The Supreme Court even stated that the paranoid delusion behind Voter ID laws has no basis in reality.

That would be the same SCOTUS that has upheld Voter ID laws as constitutional, right?

I am not arguing the constitutionality of some generic "Voter ID" and the Supreme Court does not operate that way either.

Someone tried that earlier in the topic. Failed miserably.

In fact, the Supreme Court allowed the overturning of Missouri's voter ID law because it was unduly prohibitive and disenfranchised voters. Missouri was required to modify its voter ID law to allow more forms of identification.

In that same decision, the Supreme Court acknowledged that while Indiana's voter ID was legal, there was absolutely no basis for its necessity and that no voter fraud had been established which proved its necessity.

Basically, the Supreme Court said if you want to be an idiot and make an unneccesary legal-under-the-Constitution law, go right ahead. But in the case of Missouri, their form of unneccessary law was unconstitutional as it disenfranchised real citizens.

Okay. Is everyone all caught up now?

Good.