Walmart Proves that the Trump Tax Cuts are Bogus

[Mr.Blonde]

You can't compare a corporation that relies on non skilled labor and one that relies on skilled labor.

I have worked at Walmart twice and both times you either had idiots (including the GM) and people looking for another job.

So Walmart can replace everyone who works for them without a problem. Why treat them well.

Why pay no skilled workers a living wage when you can off load the cost to tax payers?

This is why the lie of giving $1000.00 dollar bonuses to its employees , in small print it means to the 20+ year veterans which only a few people fit the category.

I worked at a chain while going to college as well..mainly for tips

Fast Food workers will be replaced , basically any minimum wage job workers are not going to have jobs.

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The reason for this is "the battle for 15". Those fighting are fighting for 15 dollars for jobs meant for children.

If you look at the history of the big fast food restaurants you will see that they made the job so easy anyone can do it. One of the reasons is so they can hire no skilled workers and not pay them a lot.

Children would have to work during school days to have the job derp...

You can include in "children" highschool and college kids. People in there 30s and 40s are supposed to be flipping burgers.

Walmart doesn't flip burgers..

It requires as much if less skill to stock shelves and run a cash register.

 

[Norman]

Ah, the looting rhetoric.

Americans people love it when the leftist tards are going to tell them that they should be looted more.

in 7 years your tax cut will disappear while the top 1% is permanent

Top 1 % is a mathematical reality indeed. A reality which in no way justifies your looting over hard working Americans.

Maybe you should get a job instead of whining all day? You too could take part...

What looting Americans..

I worked my whole life, and am doing well just not the top 1% who do not need a tax break... Seriously how much money does one need ... Well Trump likes to sit on a golden throne while he tweets , poor guy needs his tax break to pay for it..

.

If you don't need the money, I propose we increase only your taxes. I have no problem with that...

 

[Eaglewings]

I certainly didn't like what he did to the student loan program increase interest 800%..

Reagan closed all of the mental health hospitals too , so you see them living homeless talking to themselves..

You have to be suicidal to even be seen by a doctor in the emergency rooms now..

.

What really happened......
Reagan Didn't Close Down Mental Hospitals - The Gormogons

Yup!

It was Democrat JFK

1." On Feb. 5, 1963, ... President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

2. Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time.

3. .... the feds funded 789 CMHCs with a total of $2.7 billion ($20.3 billion in today's dollars). During those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals fell by three quarters—to 132,164 from 504,604—and those beds were closed down.

a. .... CMHCs were not interested in taking care of the patients being discharged from the state hospitals. Instead, they focused on individuals with less severe problems sometimes called "the worried well."
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323539804578260023200841756

Your's is a blog ... I know for a fact that Reagan closed down state hospitals in California when he was governor.. I actually went on the news to help a family member who could not get help..

What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). His decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).

Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).

U01: Ronald Reagan and the Federal Deinstitutionalization of Mentally Ill Patients | PSY 533: Ethics and Leadership (Wheeler)

This is the correct order: JFK......Carter.....Reagan



Now....have someone explain this to you:

"Deinstitutionalization was based on the principle that severe mental illness should be treated in the least restrictive setting. As further defined by President Jimmy Carter's Commission on Mental Health, this ideology rested on "the objective of maintaining the greatest degree of freedom, self-determination, autonomy, dignity, and integrity of body, mind, and spirit for the individual while he or she participates in treatment or receives services."8 This is a laudable goal and for many, perhaps for the majority of those who are deinstitutionalized, it has been at least partially realized." Deinstitutionalization - Special Reports | The New Asylums | FRONTLINE | PBS

JFK died one month after signing it and it fell apart..Also JFK didn't close them , he wanted to build better ones..

1963 President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.

Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. He doesn’t see the plan through. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.

1967 Ronald Reagan is elected governor of California. At this point, the number of patients in state hospitals had fallen to 22,000, and the Reagan administration uses the decline as a reason to make cuts to the Department of Mental Hygiene. They cut 2,600 jobs and 10 percent of the budget despite reports showing that hospitals were already below recommended staffing levels.

1967 Reagan signs the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act and ends the practice of institutionalizing patients against their will, or for indefinite amounts of time. This law is regarded by some as a “patient’s bill of rights”. Sadly, the care outside state hospitals was inadequate. The year after the law goes into effect, a study shows the number of mentally ill people entering San Mateo’s criminal justice system doubles.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Stocking shelves at Walmart isn't a lucrative career because approximately EVERYBODY is capable of doing that job.

That represents a downward pressure on the wage. However, the fact remains that a human being is required to do it. And a person who works should be able to enjoy a basic standard of living and participate in our economy. Instead, we subsidize Walmart's corporate profits by subsidizing their wages up to a bare aubsistence level. Exactly who is benefiting? The laborer has zero economic security, and it adds to our deficits. We have to legislate an upward pressure on that laborer's wage, especially considering we already shoulder the economic costs of his low wage.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that not all work has enough of an economic impact to command what you feel is a "living wage". Demanding that burger flipping and shelf stocking be lucrative enough to raise children is just wishful thinking, these aren't career jobs. They are entry level, which is called entry level for a reason. Those jobs are a starting point. You show up to those jobs on time for a year or two and start either working your way up the corporate ladder or using your free time to build more marketable skills. Just doing "work" for someone doesn't obligate them to provide economic security to your family except by your morals. But your morals don't dictate value.

And I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this argument that Walmart's evil because we gotta subsidize their workers. It ain't Walmart telling us that we have to subsidize Walmart employees. The people demanding that we do so are the SAME FUCKIN PEOPLE blaming Walmart for us having to subsidize their workers. Don't wanna supplement the checkout girl's paycheck? Stop voting for people who think you should have to supplement the checkout girl's paycheck. FFS

The reason a lot of the manufacturing jobs in the US have dried up, and the reason so much manufacturing happens overseas in the first place despite the fact that the US is who's buying most of the shit, is because it's more expensive to do business here than it is overseas. Rather than continuing to hike the costs on businesses to suit your moral values, and just demanding that those few jobs that are left have to pay a "living wage", however you specifically define that, why don't we try backing up the cost of operation and maybe allowing some of those good career jobs to happen here in stead of in China?

 

[Eaglewings]

Ah, the looting rhetoric.

Americans people love it when the leftist tards are going to tell them that they should be looted more.

in 7 years your tax cut will disappear while the top 1% is permanent

Top 1 % is a mathematical reality indeed. A reality which in no way justifies your looting over hard working Americans.

Maybe you should get a job instead of whining all day? You too could take part...

What looting Americans..

I worked my whole life, and am doing well just not the top 1% who do not need a tax break... Seriously how much money does one need ... Well Trump likes to sit on a golden throne while he tweets , poor guy needs his tax break to pay for it..

.

If you don't need the money, I propose we increase only your taxes. I have no problem with that...

So your answer is to dodge the question...how enlightening

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that not all work has enough of an economic impact to command what you feel is a "living wage".

I absolutely accounted for that, when I acknowledged that we would have to use legislative means to create upward pressure on those wages. It was literally the entire point of my post to which you are responding. But we need to do that just to "break even", in this case, as we are shouldering costs of sunsidizing walmart's wages

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reagan closed all of the mental health hospitals too , so you see them living homeless talking to themselves..

You have to be suicidal to even be seen by a doctor in the emergency rooms now..

.

What really happened......
Reagan Didn't Close Down Mental Hospitals - The Gormogons

Yup!

It was Democrat JFK

1." On Feb. 5, 1963, ... President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

2. Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time.

3. .... the feds funded 789 CMHCs with a total of $2.7 billion ($20.3 billion in today's dollars). During those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals fell by three quarters—to 132,164 from 504,604—and those beds were closed down.

a. .... CMHCs were not interested in taking care of the patients being discharged from the state hospitals. Instead, they focused on individuals with less severe problems sometimes called "the worried well."
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323539804578260023200841756

Your's is a blog ... I know for a fact that Reagan closed down state hospitals in California when he was governor.. I actually went on the news to help a family member who could not get help..

What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). His decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).

Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).

U01: Ronald Reagan and the Federal Deinstitutionalization of Mentally Ill Patients | PSY 533: Ethics and Leadership (Wheeler)

This is the correct order: JFK......Carter.....Reagan



Now....have someone explain this to you:

"Deinstitutionalization was based on the principle that severe mental illness should be treated in the least restrictive setting. As further defined by President Jimmy Carter's Commission on Mental Health, this ideology rested on "the objective of maintaining the greatest degree of freedom, self-determination, autonomy, dignity, and integrity of body, mind, and spirit for the individual while he or she participates in treatment or receives services."8 This is a laudable goal and for many, perhaps for the majority of those who are deinstitutionalized, it has been at least partially realized." Deinstitutionalization - Special Reports | The New Asylums | FRONTLINE | PBS

JFK died one month after signing it and it fell apart..Also JFK didn't close them , he wanted to build better ones..

1963 President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.

Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. He doesn’t see the plan through. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.

1967 Ronald Reagan is elected governor of California. At this point, the number of patients in state hospitals had fallen to 22,000, and the Reagan administration uses the decline as a reason to make cuts to the Department of Mental Hygiene. They cut 2,600 jobs and 10 percent of the budget despite reports showing that hospitals were already below recommended staffing levels.

1967 Reagan signs the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act and ends the practice of institutionalizing patients against their will, or for indefinite amounts of time. This law is regarded by some as a “patient’s bill of rights”. Sadly, the care outside state hospitals was inadequate. The year after the law goes into effect, a study shows the number of mentally ill people entering San Mateo’s criminal justice system doubles.

It was Democrat JFK's plan
Carter continued it.
The plan was a failure....so Reagan turned it over to the states.



1963

President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act to provide federal funding for the construction of community-based preventive care and treatment facilities. Between the Vietnam War and an economic crisis, the program was never adequately funded.

1980

President Jimmy Carter signs the Mental Health Systems Act, which aims to restructure the community mental-health-center program and improve services for people with chronic mental illness.


1981

Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

TIMELINE: Deinstitutionalization And Its Consequences

 

[Norman]

Ah, the looting rhetoric.

Americans people love it when the leftist tards are going to tell them that they should be looted more.

in 7 years your tax cut will disappear while the top 1% is permanent

Top 1 % is a mathematical reality indeed. A reality which in no way justifies your looting over hard working Americans.

Maybe you should get a job instead of whining all day? You too could take part...

What looting Americans..

I worked my whole life, and am doing well just not the top 1% who do not need a tax break... Seriously how much money does one need ... Well Trump likes to sit on a golden throne while he tweets , poor guy needs his tax break to pay for it..

.

If you don't need the money, I propose we increase only your taxes. I have no problem with that...

So your answer is to dodge the question...how enlightening

To answer your question, you don't need as much money as you have so that I think you should be looted.

There is a good reason, the rich probably spend their money in a sound way investing into America. You on the other hand blow it on stupid shit. Yes, increase the tax indeed.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that not all work has enough of an economic impact to command what you feel is a "living wage".

I absolutely accounted for that, when I acknowledged that we would have to use legislative means to create upward pressure on those wages. It was literally the entire point of my post to which you are responding. But we need to do that just to "break even", in this case, as we are shouldering costs of sunsidizing walmart's wages

That doesn't account for anything. Demanding that people be paid more doesn't actually make their labor worth more. Even at the bottom of the food chain as far as skill is concerned, there are differentials in productivity, punctuality, attitude, experience, credentials. Eventually, all you're doing when you demand higher wages is killing the number of shelf stockers and forcing companies to hawk those differences and hire the smallest possible workforce of the absolute most efficient and reliable people or, in the age of Amazon, just killing any chance of profitability for a brick and mortar retailer.

 

[Eaglewings]

What really happened......
Reagan Didn't Close Down Mental Hospitals - The Gormogons

Yup!

It was Democrat JFK

1." On Feb. 5, 1963, ... President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

2. Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time.

3. .... the feds funded 789 CMHCs with a total of $2.7 billion ($20.3 billion in today's dollars). During those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals fell by three quarters—to 132,164 from 504,604—and those beds were closed down.

a. .... CMHCs were not interested in taking care of the patients being discharged from the state hospitals. Instead, they focused on individuals with less severe problems sometimes called "the worried well."
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323539804578260023200841756

Your's is a blog ... I know for a fact that Reagan closed down state hospitals in California when he was governor.. I actually went on the news to help a family member who could not get help..

What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). His decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).

Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).

U01: Ronald Reagan and the Federal Deinstitutionalization of Mentally Ill Patients | PSY 533: Ethics and Leadership (Wheeler)

This is the correct order: JFK......Carter.....Reagan



Now....have someone explain this to you:

"Deinstitutionalization was based on the principle that severe mental illness should be treated in the least restrictive setting. As further defined by President Jimmy Carter's Commission on Mental Health, this ideology rested on "the objective of maintaining the greatest degree of freedom, self-determination, autonomy, dignity, and integrity of body, mind, and spirit for the individual while he or she participates in treatment or receives services."8 This is a laudable goal and for many, perhaps for the majority of those who are deinstitutionalized, it has been at least partially realized." Deinstitutionalization - Special Reports | The New Asylums | FRONTLINE | PBS

JFK died one month after signing it and it fell apart..Also JFK didn't close them , he wanted to build better ones..

1963 President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.

Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. He doesn’t see the plan through. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.

1967 Ronald Reagan is elected governor of California. At this point, the number of patients in state hospitals had fallen to 22,000, and the Reagan administration uses the decline as a reason to make cuts to the Department of Mental Hygiene. They cut 2,600 jobs and 10 percent of the budget despite reports showing that hospitals were already below recommended staffing levels.

1967 Reagan signs the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act and ends the practice of institutionalizing patients against their will, or for indefinite amounts of time. This law is regarded by some as a “patient’s bill of rights”. Sadly, the care outside state hospitals was inadequate. The year after the law goes into effect, a study shows the number of mentally ill people entering San Mateo’s criminal justice system doubles.

It was Democrat JFK's plan
Carter continued it.
The plan was a failure....so Reagan turned it over to the states.



1963

President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act to provide federal funding for the construction of community-based preventive care and treatment facilities. Between the Vietnam War and an economic crisis, the program was never adequately funded.


1981

Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

TIMELINE: Deinstitutionalization And Its Consequences

Nothing came of JFKs because of his death...

Ronald Reagan was Governor 1967- 1975 and shut the California mental hospitals then..

.

 

[jillian]

Ah, the looting rhetoric.

Americans people love it when the leftist tards are going to tell them that they should be looted more.

in 7 years your tax cut will disappear while the top 1% is permanent

Top 1 % is a mathematical reality indeed. A reality which in no way justifies your looting over hard working Americans.

Maybe you should get a job instead of whining all day? You too could take part...

What looting Americans..

I worked my whole life, and am doing well just not the top 1% who do not need a tax break... Seriously how much money does one need ... Well Trump likes to sit on a golden throne while he tweets , poor guy needs his tax break to pay for it..

.

If you don't need the money, I propose we increase only your taxes. I have no problem with that...

yeah, but that'S because you're really really stupid.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yup!

It was Democrat JFK

1." On Feb. 5, 1963, ... President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

2. Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time.

3. .... the feds funded 789 CMHCs with a total of $2.7 billion ($20.3 billion in today's dollars). During those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals fell by three quarters—to 132,164 from 504,604—and those beds were closed down.

a. .... CMHCs were not interested in taking care of the patients being discharged from the state hospitals. Instead, they focused on individuals with less severe problems sometimes called "the worried well."
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323539804578260023200841756

Your's is a blog ... I know for a fact that Reagan closed down state hospitals in California when he was governor.. I actually went on the news to help a family member who could not get help..

What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). His decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).

Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).

U01: Ronald Reagan and the Federal Deinstitutionalization of Mentally Ill Patients | PSY 533: Ethics and Leadership (Wheeler)

This is the correct order: JFK......Carter.....Reagan



Now....have someone explain this to you:

"Deinstitutionalization was based on the principle that severe mental illness should be treated in the least restrictive setting. As further defined by President Jimmy Carter's Commission on Mental Health, this ideology rested on "the objective of maintaining the greatest degree of freedom, self-determination, autonomy, dignity, and integrity of body, mind, and spirit for the individual while he or she participates in treatment or receives services."8 This is a laudable goal and for many, perhaps for the majority of those who are deinstitutionalized, it has been at least partially realized." Deinstitutionalization - Special Reports | The New Asylums | FRONTLINE | PBS

JFK died one month after signing it and it fell apart..Also JFK didn't close them , he wanted to build better ones..

1963 President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.

Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. He doesn’t see the plan through. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.

1967 Ronald Reagan is elected governor of California. At this point, the number of patients in state hospitals had fallen to 22,000, and the Reagan administration uses the decline as a reason to make cuts to the Department of Mental Hygiene. They cut 2,600 jobs and 10 percent of the budget despite reports showing that hospitals were already below recommended staffing levels.

1967 Reagan signs the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act and ends the practice of institutionalizing patients against their will, or for indefinite amounts of time. This law is regarded by some as a “patient’s bill of rights”. Sadly, the care outside state hospitals was inadequate. The year after the law goes into effect, a study shows the number of mentally ill people entering San Mateo’s criminal justice system doubles.

It was Democrat JFK's plan
Carter continued it.
The plan was a failure....so Reagan turned it over to the states.



1963

President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act to provide federal funding for the construction of community-based preventive care and treatment facilities. Between the Vietnam War and an economic crisis, the program was never adequately funded.


1981

Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

TIMELINE: Deinstitutionalization And Its Consequences

Nothing came of JFKs because of his death...

Ronald Reagan was Governor 1967- 1975 and shut the California mental hospitals then..

.

Whose plan,and who signed the bill?


Just as I said.....JFK.

Reagan did what he could to pull the fat out of the fire.

 

[Papageorgio]

So what is the company supposed to do? They are closing stores across the nation yet you want them to continue to employee people to do nothing?

If you don’t like Walmart, then don’t shop there, but don’t bitch when they layoff people because no one shops there.

You leftwing nuts are incredibly stupid.

 

[hjmick]

Yup!

It was Democrat JFK

1." On Feb. 5, 1963, ... President John F. Kennedy addressed Congress on "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." He proposed a new program under which the federal government would fund community mental-health centers, or CMHCs, to take the place of state mental hospitals. As Kennedy envisioned it, "reliance on the cold mercy of custodial isolations will be supplanted by the open warmth of community concern and capability."

2. Kennedy's proposal was historic because the public care of mentally ill individuals had been exclusively a state responsibility for more than a century. The federal initiative encouraged the closing of state hospitals and aborted the development of state-funded outpatient clinics in process at that time.

3. .... the feds funded 789 CMHCs with a total of $2.7 billion ($20.3 billion in today's dollars). During those same years, the number of patients in state mental hospitals fell by three quarters—to 132,164 from 504,604—and those beds were closed down.

a. .... CMHCs were not interested in taking care of the patients being discharged from the state hospitals. Instead, they focused on individuals with less severe problems sometimes called "the worried well."
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323539804578260023200841756

Your's is a blog ... I know for a fact that Reagan closed down state hospitals in California when he was governor.. I actually went on the news to help a family member who could not get help..

What Reagan is not readily known for is the long term effect of a law he repealed that essentially deinstitutionalized mentally ill patients at the federal level (Roberts, 2013). His decision to deinstitutionalize mentally ill patients had a much more deleterious effect on these patients, their communities, and the agencies that were left to contend with these individuals’ mental health issues (Honberg, 2015).

Reagan gave the appearance of making a consequentialist ethical decision because he presented his repeal of OBRA as an action that would best serve American society and do more good than harm as a result. The OBRA gave mental patients a choice to seek treatment outside of a mental institution, an option to seek treatment at clinics at the state level, and the freedom to administer their own medication (PSY533, 2017) (Pan, 2013). However, Reagan was hasty in taking unsound advice to repeal OBRA because his real motive was to cut the federal budget (Roberts, 2013). He was a leader who “never exhibited any interest in the need for research or better treatment for serious mental illness” (Torrey, 2017).

U01: Ronald Reagan and the Federal Deinstitutionalization of Mentally Ill Patients | PSY 533: Ethics and Leadership (Wheeler)

This is the correct order: JFK......Carter.....Reagan



Now....have someone explain this to you:

"Deinstitutionalization was based on the principle that severe mental illness should be treated in the least restrictive setting. As further defined by President Jimmy Carter's Commission on Mental Health, this ideology rested on "the objective of maintaining the greatest degree of freedom, self-determination, autonomy, dignity, and integrity of body, mind, and spirit for the individual while he or she participates in treatment or receives services."8 This is a laudable goal and for many, perhaps for the majority of those who are deinstitutionalized, it has been at least partially realized." Deinstitutionalization - Special Reports | The New Asylums | FRONTLINE | PBS

JFK died one month after signing it and it fell apart..Also JFK didn't close them , he wanted to build better ones..

1963 President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act. This pushes the responsibility of mentally ill patients from the state toward the federal government. JFK wanted to create a network of community mental health centers where mentally ill people could live in the community while receiving care. JFK could have been inspired to act because his younger sister, Rosemary, was mentally disabled, received a lobotomy and spent her life hidden away.

Less than a month after signing the new legislation, JFK is assassinated. He doesn’t see the plan through. The community mental health centers never receive stable funding, and even 15 years later less than half the promised centers are built.

1967 Ronald Reagan is elected governor of California. At this point, the number of patients in state hospitals had fallen to 22,000, and the Reagan administration uses the decline as a reason to make cuts to the Department of Mental Hygiene. They cut 2,600 jobs and 10 percent of the budget despite reports showing that hospitals were already below recommended staffing levels.

1967 Reagan signs the Lanterman-Petris-Short Act and ends the practice of institutionalizing patients against their will, or for indefinite amounts of time. This law is regarded by some as a “patient’s bill of rights”. Sadly, the care outside state hospitals was inadequate. The year after the law goes into effect, a study shows the number of mentally ill people entering San Mateo’s criminal justice system doubles.

It was Democrat JFK's plan
Carter continued it.
The plan was a failure....so Reagan turned it over to the states.



1963

President John F. Kennedy signs the Community Mental Health Act to provide federal funding for the construction of community-based preventive care and treatment facilities. Between the Vietnam War and an economic crisis, the program was never adequately funded.


1981

Under President Ronald Reagan, the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repeals Carter’s community health legislation and establishes block grants for the states, ending the federal government’s role in providing services to the mentally ill. Federal mental-health spending decreases by 30 percent.

TIMELINE: Deinstitutionalization And Its Consequences

Nothing came of JFKs because of his death...

Ronald Reagan was Governor 1967- 1975 and shut the California mental hospitals then..

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Wrong. In the late 1950s, under Governor Edmund G. Brown Sr. (D), California started the push to release patients from mental hospitals into group homes and nursing homes. By the time Ronald Reagan was became governor in 1967, California had already deinstitutionalized more than half of its state hospital patients. In 1967 California passed the Lanterman-Petris-Short (LPS) Act (a law the Democrat controlled legislature passed), which all but abolished involuntary hospitalization except in extreme cases. By the early 1970s California had pushed most mentally ill patients out of its state hospitals and the LPS, had made it very difficult to get them back into a hospital if they relapsed and needed additional care.

Blame the patient's rights advocacy groups first...

Now, certainly Reagan didn't do anything as governor to make things better (again, you have to remember the push was instigated by patient's rights advocacy groups) and as President it could be argued that he exacerbated the problem, but at least make an effort to get your history correct. In California it started with Brown, and the policy of deinstitutionalization continued under Reagan because it was the law.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Corporations worth billions and trillions yet the majority of their workers need welfare to help support themselves....sad...

If they weren't paying enough people wouldn't be taking the jobs.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It didn't take long to see in color how Lying Trump's tax cuts are for the Top 1% ~ The GOP's Bogus night time Fairytale for the Trump-Pets


Wal-Mart has announced thousands of layoffs since publicizing bonuses and benefits expansion

Wal-Mart has announced thousands of layoffs since publicizing bonuses and benefits expansion

Wal-Mart to offer one-time bonus of up to $1,000 – only for 20-year management veterans

( And to add, they plan on replacing the veterans with new managers with less pay )

Many companies have announced new bonuses or accelerated schedules on pre-announced perks since tax reforms passed. But only 2% of American adults say they’ve gotten a raise, bonus or other benefits because of the new tax law, according to a recent study.
COST, -1.28% Wal-Mart’s head-to-head with Amazon has extended into online grocery, voice commerce, speedy online order delivery and other areas.

BTW: Middle class tax cuts will expire while the top 1% keeps theirs permanently
House tax plan: All in middle class eventually get tax hike?

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How is one example proof of failure? I posted a thread two weeks ago about how we all got $1,000 bonuses at my company, the starting minimum wage was raised to $15, and they contributed $100 million to the company's charitable trust which aids employees and members of the community. Additionally, I just got a 3% annual raise and a $10,500 annual performance bonus, which is higher than normal. By your logic, my company is example of how the tax cut legislation is successful.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that not all work has enough of an economic impact to command what you feel is a "living wage".

I absolutely accounted for that, when I acknowledged that we would have to use legislative means to create upward pressure on those wages. It was literally the entire point of my post to which you are responding. But we need to do that just to "break even", in this case, as we are shouldering costs of sunsidizing walmart's wages

That doesn't account for anything. Demanding that people be paid more doesn't actually make their labor worth more. Even at the bottom of the food chain as far as skill is concerned, there are differentials in productivity, punctuality, attitude, experience, credentials. Eventually, all you're doing when you demand higher wages is killing the number of shelf stockers and forcing companies to hawk those differences and hire the smallest possible workforce of the absolute most efficient and reliable people or, in the age of Amazon, just killing any chance of profitability for a brick and mortar retailer.

Have you been been to a WaWa or Sheetz? I can get the same food, but better. No one takes my order WaWa and Sheetz have a kiosk and I know Sheetz has it where I can order my food on my phone and it is ready when I get there. Sheetz only has 2 people run the restaurant.

Chick fila has an app also where I can order my food.

A "living wage" will make other places do the same thing quicker than they already were. Also you are hurting kids who want to enter the work force, because no one will hire a 16 yr old at 15 an hour.

 

[Moonglow]

Corporations worth billions and trillions yet the majority of their workers need welfare to help support themselves....sad...

If they weren't paying enough people wouldn't be taking the jobs.

When all you have in your area is what they are paying you take the job..The rural areas have always had poverty and jobs are scarce. It's not like living in the suburbs...

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Corporations worth billions and trillions yet the majority of their workers need welfare to help support themselves....sad...

If they weren't paying enough people wouldn't be taking the jobs.

When all you have in your area is what they are paying you take the job..The rural areas have always had poverty and jobs are scarce. It's not like living in the suburbs...

If people are taking the job then they are paying the appropriate wage.

 

[Moonglow]

This is why the lie of giving $1000.00 dollar bonuses to its employees , in small print it means to the 20+ year veterans which only a few people fit the category.

I worked at a chain while going to college as well..mainly for tips

Fast Food workers will be replaced , basically any minimum wage job workers are not going to have jobs.

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The reason for this is "the battle for 15". Those fighting are fighting for 15 dollars for jobs meant for children.

If you look at the history of the big fast food restaurants you will see that they made the job so easy anyone can do it. One of the reasons is so they can hire no skilled workers and not pay them a lot.

Children would have to work during school days to have the job derp...

You can include in "children" highschool and college kids. People in there 30s and 40s are supposed to be flipping burgers.

Walmart doesn't flip burgers..

It requires as much if less skill to stock shelves and run a cash register.

The registers are computers, computers which performs many functions besides grocery purchases...How many have you ran? I consider cooking burgers to be much easier since it is a two step operation...