Warning: Fake News political thread

[Mac-7]

Okay, if you're reading, I warned you.

I wish Trumpsters, before they grab their guns and go after the "commies", could have watched AND LISTENED TO Joe Scarborough's tirade on MSNBC just now. I know it's fake news 'n stuff, but it would have made you feel a little better. He just made a few very important points, such as:

• The Dems BADLY under-performed in the House and Senate
• The GOP no longer has to fear redistricting, since they did so well
• 2022 is looking very good for the GOP
• Moderate Dems are furious and ready to take the party back from the Regressive Left
• They know that defunding the police and socialized medicine are LOSER ideas
• This is a 50/50 country, and it looks like we may not go too far in either direction

And I'll add one of my own:

• It looks like minorities may be re-thinking their allegiance to the Dems, and now the Dems have to WORK for it. Good.

So, in all seriousness, and with respect, we're not going commie in January. Maybe calm down, stop talking about guns, stop believing the scary stuff you're hearing in your "news" universe, and start thinking critically and calmly.

Only problem I see here for Democrats is that if you are going to stay in the middle and try to appeal to those voters Scarborough was talking about, there may not be any discernible difference between them and their Republican opponent. Those people will vote Republican. Sooner or later, taxes, wage stagnation, healthcare, infrastructure, the environment, and race relations will all need to be addressed. The up and coming younger voters are going to demand it. And those demographics are shifting to them...quickly. We've allowed Republicans and conservatives (latest iteration) to boil these issues down into soundbites, memes, and gifs. Then along comes Trump and his clan to poison the well permanently. I give the ACA as an example. It should have been a starting point. Republicans have had a decade to offer up their own plan. I've seen several outlets go out and interview the unwashed masses to ask them if they liked the ACA or "Obamacare" better. Almost all of them said they support the ACA but didn't support Obamacare. Sheesh. This is how rhetoric leads to divisiveness. I care only about policy and what works and what doesn't. Show me one conservative policy success story in the last four decades and I'll consider it.

Democrats are not seeking compromise

Dems want a one-party political system dominated by themselves

 

[Mac1958]

Okay, if you're reading, I warned you.

I wish Trumpsters, before they grab their guns and go after the "commies", could have watched AND LISTENED TO Joe Scarborough's tirade on MSNBC just now. I know it's fake news 'n stuff, but it would have made you feel a little better. He just made a few very important points, such as:

• The Dems BADLY under-performed in the House and Senate
• The GOP no longer has to fear redistricting, since they did so well
• 2022 is looking very good for the GOP
• Moderate Dems are furious and ready to take the party back from the Regressive Left
• They know that defunding the police and socialized medicine are LOSER ideas
• This is a 50/50 country, and it looks like we may not go too far in either direction

And I'll add one of my own:

• It looks like minorities may be re-thinking their allegiance to the Dems, and now the Dems have to WORK for it. Good.

So, in all seriousness, and with respect, we're not going commie in January. Maybe calm down, stop talking about guns, stop believing the scary stuff you're hearing in your "news" universe, and start thinking critically and calmly.

Only problem I see here for Democrats is that if you are going to stay in the middle and try to appeal to those voters Scarborough was talking about, there may not be any discernible difference between them and their Republican opponent. Those people will vote Republican. Sooner or later, taxes, wage stagnation, healthcare, infrastructure, the environment, and race relations will all need to be addressed. The up and coming younger voters are going to demand it. And those demographics are shifting to them...quickly. We've allowed Republicans and conservatives (latest iteration) to boil these issues down into soundbites, memes, and gifs. Then along comes Trump and his clan to poison the well permanently. I give the ACA as an example. It should have been a starting point. Republicans have had a decade to offer up their own plan. I've seen several outlets go out and interview the unwashed masses to ask them if they liked the ACA or "Obamacare" better. Almost all of them said they support the ACA but didn't support Obamacare. Sheesh. This is how rhetoric leads to divisiveness. I care only about policy and what works and what doesn't. Show me one conservative policy success story in the last four decades and I'll consider it.

Well, holy crap, I'd love to see a center-left Dem and a center-right Republican though. In any election. It seems to me (I'm not exactly an expert on this stuff, stipulated) that a 50/50 country demands a more centrist, stable governing approach. Otherwise we'll just (a) keep seeing swings back and forth and (b) keep seeing instability and a total lack of long-term progress.

When both sides have skin in the game, they're less likely to simplistically point the finger and allow the nutters to take control.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Okay, if you're reading, I warned you.

I wish Trumpsters, before they grab their guns and go after the "commies", could have watched AND LISTENED TO Joe Scarborough's tirade on MSNBC just now. I know it's fake news 'n stuff, but it would have made you feel a little better. He just made a few very important points, such as:

• The Dems BADLY under-performed in the House and Senate
• The GOP no longer has to fear redistricting, since they did so well
• 2022 is looking very good for the GOP
• Moderate Dems are furious and ready to take the party back from the Regressive Left
• They know that defunding the police and socialized medicine are LOSER ideas
• This is a 50/50 country, and it looks like we may not go too far in either direction

And I'll add one of my own:

• It looks like minorities may be re-thinking their allegiance to the Dems, and now the Dems have to WORK for it. Good.

So, in all seriousness, and with respect, we're not going commie in January. Maybe calm down, stop talking about guns, stop believing the scary stuff you're hearing in your "news" universe, and start thinking critically and calmly.

Joe Scarborough is a clown, that's being nice. He has gone online with tweets suggesting very racist and provocative comments. He's an idiot and a shill for someone or some thing. He's certainly not a high performer or principled source of intellect.

Second, GOP is NOT going to do well in 2022. All of the Trump enthusiasm will be gone. Don Jr, Haley or Rubio isn't going to replicate it. His voters are thoroughly disenfranchised.

GOP overall voting numbers are going to plummet in 2022 and 2024, I don't care who they put up. Without question, the future for the U.S is almost certainly going to be socialism. I wish there was a place I could make such a wager. China has worked hard to import their "values" while exporting your wealth and industries. The greatest intelligence and economic coup in the history of the world.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Okay, if you're reading, I warned you.

I wish Trumpsters, before they grab their guns and go after the "commies", could have watched AND LISTENED TO Joe Scarborough's tirade on MSNBC just now. I know it's fake news 'n stuff, but it would have made you feel a little better. He just made a few very important points, such as:

• The Dems BADLY under-performed in the House and Senate
• The GOP no longer has to fear redistricting, since they did so well
• 2022 is looking very good for the GOP
• Moderate Dems are furious and ready to take the party back from the Regressive Left
• They know that defunding the police and socialized medicine are LOSER ideas
• This is a 50/50 country, and it looks like we may not go too far in either direction

And I'll add one of my own:

• It looks like minorities may be re-thinking their allegiance to the Dems, and now the Dems have to WORK for it. Good.

So, in all seriousness, and with respect, we're not going commie in January. Maybe calm down, stop talking about guns, stop believing the scary stuff you're hearing in your "news" universe, and start thinking critically and calmly.

Only problem I see here for Democrats is that if you are going to stay in the middle and try to appeal to those voters Scarborough was talking about, there may not be any discernible difference between them and their Republican opponent. Those people will vote Republican. Sooner or later, taxes, wage stagnation, healthcare, infrastructure, the environment, and race relations will all need to be addressed. The up and coming younger voters are going to demand it. And those demographics are shifting to them...quickly. We've allowed Republicans and conservatives (latest iteration) to boil these issues down into soundbites, memes, and gifs. Then along comes Trump and his clan to poison the well permanently. I give the ACA as an example. It should have been a starting point. Republicans have had a decade to offer up their own plan. I've seen several outlets go out and interview the unwashed masses to ask them if they liked the ACA or "Obamacare" better. Almost all of them said they support the ACA but didn't support Obamacare. Sheesh. This is how rhetoric leads to divisiveness. I care only about policy and what works and what doesn't. Show me one conservative policy success story in the last four decades and I'll consider it.

Democrats are not seeking compromise

Dems want a one-party political system dominated by themselves

Same thing Republicans want. They're politicians. Color me shocked....yikes.

 

[Dale Smith]

Why do I get the feeling I'm being looked down on from a colossal ivory tower?

Okay, if you're reading, I warned you.

I wish Trumpsters, before they grab their guns and go after the "commies", could have watched AND LISTENED TO Joe Scarborough's tirade on MSNBC just now. I know it's fake news 'n stuff, but it would have made you feel a little better. He just made a few very important points, such as:

• The Dems BADLY under-performed in the House and Senate
• The GOP no longer has to fear redistricting, since they did so well
• 2022 is looking very good for the GOP
• Moderate Dems are furious and ready to take the party back from the Regressive Left
• They know that defunding the police and socialized medicine are LOSER ideas
• This is a 50/50 country, and it looks like we may not go too far in either direction

And I'll add one of my own:

• It looks like minorities may be re-thinking their allegiance to the Dems, and now the Dems have to WORK for it. Good.

So, in all seriousness, and with respect, we're not going commie in January. Maybe calm down, stop talking about guns, stop believing the scary stuff you're hearing in your "news" universe, and start thinking critically and calmly.

STFU, you blowhard and overall sack of shit. You are not some kind of "pundit" (but you are definitely uninformed enough) and your lame pontifications are yawn inducing tripe Just some healthy criticism from someone that car........nah, fuck that .....I can't say that I care about you with a straight face........


(snicker)

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Okay, if you're reading, I warned you.

I wish Trumpsters, before they grab their guns and go after the "commies", could have watched AND LISTENED TO Joe Scarborough's tirade on MSNBC just now. I know it's fake news 'n stuff, but it would have made you feel a little better. He just made a few very important points, such as:

• The Dems BADLY under-performed in the House and Senate
• The GOP no longer has to fear redistricting, since they did so well
• 2022 is looking very good for the GOP
• Moderate Dems are furious and ready to take the party back from the Regressive Left
• They know that defunding the police and socialized medicine are LOSER ideas
• This is a 50/50 country, and it looks like we may not go too far in either direction

And I'll add one of my own:

• It looks like minorities may be re-thinking their allegiance to the Dems, and now the Dems have to WORK for it. Good.

So, in all seriousness, and with respect, we're not going commie in January. Maybe calm down, stop talking about guns, stop believing the scary stuff you're hearing in your "news" universe, and start thinking critically and calmly.

Only problem I see here for Democrats is that if you are going to stay in the middle and try to appeal to those voters Scarborough was talking about, there may not be any discernible difference between them and their Republican opponent. Those people will vote Republican. Sooner or later, taxes, wage stagnation, healthcare, infrastructure, the environment, and race relations will all need to be addressed. The up and coming younger voters are going to demand it. And those demographics are shifting to them...quickly. We've allowed Republicans and conservatives (latest iteration) to boil these issues down into soundbites, memes, and gifs. Then along comes Trump and his clan to poison the well permanently. I give the ACA as an example. It should have been a starting point. Republicans have had a decade to offer up their own plan. I've seen several outlets go out and interview the unwashed masses to ask them if they liked the ACA or "Obamacare" better. Almost all of them said they support the ACA but didn't support Obamacare. Sheesh. This is how rhetoric leads to divisiveness. I care only about policy and what works and what doesn't. Show me one conservative policy success story in the last four decades and I'll consider it.

Well, holy crap, I'd love to see a center-left Dem and a center-right Republican though. In any election. It seems to me (I'm not exactly an expert on this stuff, stipulated) that a 50/50 country demands a more centrist, stable governing approach. Otherwise we'll just (a) keep seeing swings back and forth and (b) keep seeing instability and a total lack of long-term progress.

When both sides have skin in the game, they're less likely to simplistically point the finger and allow the nutters to take control.

I don't think it does. I think it's just another episode of "kick the can down the road". At some point, there won't be any road left to kick the can on. Something has to get done.
We can't even agree to come to the table to talk about these issues.

 

[Mac-7]

Same thing Republicans want.

Its not the same

if dems lose an election there is always the next one

when republicans lose there is no tomorrow

far left california is an example of that

its a chinese communist style one party system ruled by democrats even though the state is filled with millions of powerless republican conservatives

but it used to be fairly balanced

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Same thing Republicans want.

Its not the same

if dems lose an election there is always the next one

when republicans lose there is no tomorrow

far left california is an example of that

its a chinese communist style one party system ruled by democrats even though the state is filled with powerless republican conservatives

but it used to be fairly balanced

Uh..Ok...well, you were paying attention on Tuesday, right? Right now, Republicans have a pretty good tomorrow from my point of view. They didn't take the shellacking that I thought was almost preordained. And they're in good position for 2022 (although they have 22 Senate seats up as opposed to 13 for Democrats).

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The real story here is you just admitted to watching the most liberal news station in America...

 

[Mac-7]

Same thing Republicans want.

Its not the same

if dems lose an election there is always the next one

when republicans lose there is no tomorrow

far left california is an example of that

its a chinese communist style one party system ruled by democrats even though the state is filled with powerless republican conservatives

but it used to be fairly balanced

Uh..Ok...well, you were paying attention on Tuesday, right? Right now, Republicans have a pretty good tomorrow from my point of view. They didn't take the shellacking that I thought was almost preordained. And they're in good position for 2022 (although they have 22 Senate seats up as opposed to 13 for Democrats).

Sorry, thats not good enough

the democrats are cheaters who steal elections

which they will be in an even better position to do in the future

this has to stop now

 

[Mac-7]

The real story here is you just admitted to watching the most liberal news station in America... and make claims to be non partisan.

Bingo

mac1958 worships joe scarboro and accuses others of being partisan

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Same thing Republicans want.

Its not the same

if dems lose an election there is always the next one

when republicans lose there is no tomorrow

far left california is an example of that

its a chinese communist style one party system ruled by democrats even though the state is filled with powerless republican conservatives

but it used to be fairly balanced

Uh..Ok...well, you were paying attention on Tuesday, right? Right now, Republicans have a pretty good tomorrow from my point of view. They didn't take the shellacking that I thought was almost preordained. And they're in good position for 2022 (although they have 22 Senate seats up as opposed to 13 for Democrats).

Sorry, thats not good enough

the democrats are cheaters who steal elections

which they will be in an even better position to do in the future

this has to stop now

There is no credible evidence of cheating. Bullshit video on alt-right Internet sites doesn't make it so.
There are appointed poll watchers from both sides of the aisle overseeing the counts in all states.
When it's finished, no matter who wins, the results will be bulletproof.

 

[Mac-7]

There is no credible evidence of cheating.

None that you will accept

time after time democrats “discover” just enough uncounted votes to “win” close elections

 

[Cellblock2429]

Okay, if you're reading, I warned you.

I wish Trumpsters, before they grab their guns and go after the "commies", could have watched AND LISTENED TO Joe Scarborough's tirade on MSNBC just now. I know it's fake news 'n stuff, but it would have made you feel a little better. He just made a few very important points, such as:

• The Dems BADLY under-performed in the House and Senate
• The GOP no longer has to fear redistricting, since they did so well
• 2022 is looking very good for the GOP
• Moderate Dems are furious and ready to take the party back from the Regressive Left
• They know that defunding the police and socialized medicine are LOSER ideas
• This is a 50/50 country, and it looks like we may not go too far in either direction

And I'll add one of my own:

• It looks like minorities may be re-thinking their allegiance to the Dems, and now the Dems have to WORK for it. Good.

So, in all seriousness, and with respect, we're not going commie in January. Maybe calm down, stop talking about guns, stop believing the scary stuff you're hearing in your "news" universe, and start thinking critically and calmly.

/——/ I’m deleting the fake news Fox app and downloading Newsmax.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Same thing Republicans want.

Its not the same

if dems lose an election there is always the next one

when republicans lose there is no tomorrow

far left california is an example of that

its a chinese communist style one party system ruled by democrats even though the state is filled with powerless republican conservatives

but it used to be fairly balanced

Uh..Ok...well, you were paying attention on Tuesday, right? Right now, Republicans have a pretty good tomorrow from my point of view. They didn't take the shellacking that I thought was almost preordained. And they're in good position for 2022 (although they have 22 Senate seats up as opposed to 13 for Democrats).

Sorry, thats not good enough

the democrats are cheaters who steal elections

which they will be in an even better position to do in the future

this has to stop now

There is no credible evidence of cheating. Bullshit video on alt-right Internet sites doesn't make it so.
There are appointed poll watchers from both sides of the aisle overseeing the counts in all states.
When it's finished, no matter who wins, the results will be bulletproof.

/——/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-michigan-idUSKBN27K2AQ

 

[Mac-7]

How do we know mac1958 is lying about being a moderate and seeking bipartisan solutions?

its the way he attacks republicans like president trump on personality but never offers positive solutions about issues

if Mac1958 were what he claims you would never hear bitter opposition to trump but rather only compromise policy proposals

because you cant find compromise with people that you openly express hate for

thats not how the world works

 

[Billiejeens]

Why do I get the feeling I'm being looked down on from a colossal ivory tower?

I think that it may be that the OP is a self Important, overly self absorbed, piece of shit.
But it could be another reason, I don't know you that well.

 

[kaz]

.
A majority of the country doesn't buy into a hardcore partisan ideology

Actually Biden has over 50% of the vote

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Same thing Republicans want.

Its not the same

if dems lose an election there is always the next one

when republicans lose there is no tomorrow

far left california is an example of that

its a chinese communist style one party system ruled by democrats even though the state is filled with powerless republican conservatives

but it used to be fairly balanced

Uh..Ok...well, you were paying attention on Tuesday, right? Right now, Republicans have a pretty good tomorrow from my point of view. They didn't take the shellacking that I thought was almost preordained. And they're in good position for 2022 (although they have 22 Senate seats up as opposed to 13 for Democrats).

Sorry, thats not good enough

the democrats are cheaters who steal elections

which they will be in an even better position to do in the future

this has to stop now

There is no credible evidence of cheating. Bullshit video on alt-right Internet sites doesn't make it so.
There are appointed poll watchers from both sides of the aisle overseeing the counts in all states.
When it's finished, no matter who wins, the results will be bulletproof.

/——/ Michigan still counting votes, angry poll watchers barred in Detroit, Trump sues

And? Jeez it isn't like we've seen a select group of people in Michigan get their panties in a twist.
I seem to remember armed chowderheads storming the state capitol demanding that their state be reopened.

 

[kaz]

Then they need to grow a little thicker skin, have more confidence in their opinions, or just stay on the sidelines.

Talk about thin skin

thats you

you bash trump and his supporters relentlessly and then tell them they need to accept your abuse

but you are offended when anyone criticizes you

That's Mac. Nailed it ...