Washing machines/dryers prices up 17% under Trump (thank you, tariffs)

[Indeependent]

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

We can't compete with people making the equivalent of $13.00 USD/day.

And no tariff will change that.


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We’ll see.

We have seen already, additional tariffs by the US have failed in modern history.

Think about your $13 a day, the average factory worker makes 10 to 13 times that much. Taking out the cost of transport and we are still talking prices going up 5 fold to level out the 13 a day pay


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What happened to the “Automation!” Cry?

 

[jc456]

Sure, it's just that as an Independent, you always side with the left. When are your kind going to man up and just admit what you are?

Do I? I don't think you know me too well. It may seem that way now since repubs control everything, dems can't really do anything.

I've seen enough of your posts to know what side you always take on issues. Anti-gun, anti-business, anti-CEO. When have you ever taken a conservative stance on anything?

I'm against the government picking winners and losers, wait conservatives threw that one away too. Now they are handing out corporate welfare right and left. Huge waste of tax dollars.

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

sad you don't understand. see when someone loses a job they go on some form of welfare. you think that's free? can't make this shit up. Tariff until there is fair trade. Period. otherwise, you pay more taxes.

 

[jc456]

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

We can't compete with people making the equivalent of $13.00 USD/day.

And no tariff will change that.


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We’ll see.

We have seen already, additional tariffs by the US have failed in modern history.

Think about your $13 a day, the average factory worker makes 10 to 13 times that much. Taking out the cost of transport and we are still talking prices going up 5 fold to level out the 13 a day pay


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so you have no factual information to make your argument.

 

[Brain357]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I guess putting loyalty to America over buying cheaply made $hit from our enemy China who has taken advantage of and cheated this country is too tough for snowflakes.

People will pay more for foreign made washers and dryers, leaving less money for other things. The economy will suffer.

 

[Brain357]

Do I? I don't think you know me too well. It may seem that way now since repubs control everything, dems can't really do anything.

I've seen enough of your posts to know what side you always take on issues. Anti-gun, anti-business, anti-CEO. When have you ever taken a conservative stance on anything?

I'm against the government picking winners and losers, wait conservatives threw that one away too. Now they are handing out corporate welfare right and left. Huge waste of tax dollars.

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

sad you don't understand. see when someone loses a job they go on some form of welfare. you think that's free? can't make this shit up. Tariff until there is fair trade. Period. otherwise, you pay more taxes.

Tariffs have always led to job loss.

 

[jc456]

I've seen enough of your posts to know what side you always take on issues. Anti-gun, anti-business, anti-CEO. When have you ever taken a conservative stance on anything?

I'm against the government picking winners and losers, wait conservatives threw that one away too. Now they are handing out corporate welfare right and left. Huge waste of tax dollars.

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

We can't compete with people making the equivalent of $13.00 USD/day.

And no tariff will change that.


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Tarrif's are not for that purpose, When China stops putting tariffs on our products, then our tariffs will be dropped. it's quite simple . No wonder you can't figure that out.

 

[jc456]

I've seen enough of your posts to know what side you always take on issues. Anti-gun, anti-business, anti-CEO. When have you ever taken a conservative stance on anything?

I'm against the government picking winners and losers, wait conservatives threw that one away too. Now they are handing out corporate welfare right and left. Huge waste of tax dollars.

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

sad you don't understand. see when someone loses a job they go on some form of welfare. you think that's free? can't make this shit up. Tariff until there is fair trade. Period. otherwise, you pay more taxes.

Tariffs have always led to job loss.

bullshit. those are stories told to produce fear. never happens. just doesn't.

 

[Indeependent]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I guess putting loyalty to America over buying cheaply made $hit from our enemy China who has taken advantage of and cheated this country is too tough for snowflakes.

People will pay more for foreign made washers and dryers, leaving less money for other things. The economy will suffer.

Because people buy washers and dryers...every day!

 

[Brain357]

I'm against the government picking winners and losers, wait conservatives threw that one away too. Now they are handing out corporate welfare right and left. Huge waste of tax dollars.

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

We can't compete with people making the equivalent of $13.00 USD/day.

And no tariff will change that.


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Tarrif's are not for that purpose, When China stops putting tariffs on our products, then our tariffs will be dropped. it's quite simple . No wonder you can't figure that out.

So we get taxed more till they get rid of tariffs. They will only be inspired to get rid of tariffs if we start buying less. I suspect we are going to be taxed more for some time..

 

[Brain357]

I'm against the government picking winners and losers, wait conservatives threw that one away too. Now they are handing out corporate welfare right and left. Huge waste of tax dollars.

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

sad you don't understand. see when someone loses a job they go on some form of welfare. you think that's free? can't make this shit up. Tariff until there is fair trade. Period. otherwise, you pay more taxes.

Tariffs have always led to job loss.

bullshit. those are stories told to produce fear. never happens. just doesn't.

No, it had happened every time actually. How dumb are you?

 

[Brain357]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I guess putting loyalty to America over buying cheaply made $hit from our enemy China who has taken advantage of and cheated this country is too tough for snowflakes.

People will pay more for foreign made washers and dryers, leaving less money for other things. The economy will suffer.

Because people buy washers and dryers...every day!

Are tariffs only on washers and dryers?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

We can't compete with people making the equivalent of $13.00 USD/day.

And no tariff will change that.


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We’ll see.

We have seen already, additional tariffs by the US have failed in modern history.

Think about your $13 a day, the average factory worker makes 10 to 13 times that much. Taking out the cost of transport and we are still talking prices going up 5 fold to level out the 13 a day pay


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What happened to the “Automation!” Cry?

Automated jobs can never come back, so they are a moot point in this discussion since it is about bringing back jobs.

Also, automation is still costly, so while it is worthwhile to replace someone making 45,000 a year, it is less so for those working for 13 bucks a day


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[Indeependent]

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

sad you don't understand. see when someone loses a job they go on some form of welfare. you think that's free? can't make this shit up. Tariff until there is fair trade. Period. otherwise, you pay more taxes.

Tariffs have always led to job loss.

bullshit. those are stories told to produce fear. never happens. just doesn't.

No, it had happened every time actually. How dumb are you?

There was already mass unemployment.

 

[Indeependent]

Wanna buy laundry equipment for your home? Good luck paying more than you used to, thanks to Donald J. Trump and his tariffs.
In this thread, we will come up with ideas as to how to lower said prices again:
Opinion | Trump’s tariffs are already backfiring

I guess putting loyalty to America over buying cheaply made $hit from our enemy China who has taken advantage of and cheated this country is too tough for snowflakes.

People will pay more for foreign made washers and dryers, leaving less money for other things. The economy will suffer.

Because people buy washers and dryers...every day!

Are tariffs only on washers and dryers?

I responded to your post.

 

[Indeependent]

We can't compete with people making the equivalent of $13.00 USD/day.

And no tariff will change that.


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We’ll see.

We have seen already, additional tariffs by the US have failed in modern history.

Think about your $13 a day, the average factory worker makes 10 to 13 times that much. Taking out the cost of transport and we are still talking prices going up 5 fold to level out the 13 a day pay


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What happened to the “Automation!” Cry?

Automated jobs can never come back, so they are a moot point in this discussion since it is about bringing back jobs.

Also, automation is still costly, so while it is worthwhile to replace someone making 45,000 a year, it is less so for those working for 13 bucks a day


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I understand your Libertarian, “Fuck everybody else” stance in life.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I'm against the government picking winners and losers, wait conservatives threw that one away too. Now they are handing out corporate welfare right and left. Huge waste of tax dollars.

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

We can't compete with people making the equivalent of $13.00 USD/day.

And no tariff will change that.


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Tarrif's are not for that purpose, When China stops putting tariffs on our products, then our tariffs will be dropped. it's quite simple . No wonder you can't figure that out.

We already have tariffs, 3700 pages worth, have you checked them out yet?

All we are doing is adding more and then they add more....there is no winner in this...

If I shoot you and you shoot me back, there is no winner.


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[Brain357]

Trump trade policies threaten 2.6 million US jobs, Chamber of Commerce says

 

[Indeependent]

Do we then continue to deal with foreign subsidizes companies?

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

We can't compete with people making the equivalent of $13.00 USD/day.

And no tariff will change that.


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Tarrif's are not for that purpose, When China stops putting tariffs on our products, then our tariffs will be dropped. it's quite simple . No wonder you can't figure that out.

We already have tariffs, 3700 pages worth, have you checked them out yet?

All we are doing is adding more and then they add more....there is no winner in this...

If I shoot you and you shoot me back, there is no winner.


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You make good money; what’s your problem?

 

[Brain357]

Well let me ask you this..........

If the company you bought your car from, was taking money from the executive board, to subsidize the cost of the car they sell you..... so that now you can buy that car for $1,000 less.....

Would you be saying "Am I supposed to continue dealing with subsidized cars?"

No, you would not. You being able to buy a product at a lower price is not..... a burden to you.

When the government of China..... taxes the people of China...... to sell us steel at a lower price.... this isn't a burden to us.

How do we compete? Well.... pretty easily. We take the cheap steel, and make products with it.

Which will make us more competitive? You tell me..... paying super high prices on steel with tariffs, that force us to charge higher prices for our products? Or paying low prices on steel subsidized by Chinese tax payers, and sell products at lower prices?

Obviously we will be more competitive, if we can get the materials to produce goods at a lower price.

Remember, we have been competitive in the world, with imported goods, for over 5 decades now.

We have not been in a 5 decade long depression. We have done really well. We're still the largest economy in the world, by a wide margin.

sad you don't understand. see when someone loses a job they go on some form of welfare. you think that's free? can't make this shit up. Tariff until there is fair trade. Period. otherwise, you pay more taxes.

Tariffs have always led to job loss.

bullshit. those are stories told to produce fear. never happens. just doesn't.

No, it had happened every time actually. How dumb are you?

There was already mass unemployment.

Which time? Tariffs always cost jobs.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump trade policies threaten 2.6 million US jobs, Chamber of Commerce says

Trump won?!