Washington Post audio of Trump berating and threatening Georgia Secretary of State for not "finding" votes to change election result. Sedition?

[Bobob]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

In other words, you think that this kind of behavior is acceptable, yes? If Biden pulled a shit stunt like this, you would want his balls on a platter.

You have to put America's rightwing into the proper perspective. These are the same freaks who defended Trump when he tossed paper towels to flood victims.

And Democrat liberals who cheered when Pelosi ripped up a STOU speech on camera, and held back aid to suffering American's in this pandemic because she didn't want to give a win to Trump.....You fucking hacks have NO STANDING to call anyone anything!

Pelosi didn't "hold back aid". She passed two bills giving more aid to suffering Americans, and Mitch McConnell wouldn't even take them up, much less negotiate with the House on these deals.

As for ripping up Trump's "STOU" speech, well how terrible!!! How many Americans died because of this egrious action? SHE DISRESPECTED TRUMP!!!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

In other words, how dare we call Trump on his illegal actions, many of which have caused thousands of innocent Americans to die, millions to fall into poverty, and the economy to be destroyed.

Hey, I’m with ya on aid...I think we should be getting more. So does the President btw.
what law did Trump break?

Everything he''s done to "overturn" the results of the election. The Attorney General of Georgia is looking at filing charges today.

So, it’s ok for a Democrat to challenge an election, but not for a republican?

Challenge the election? Go for it! When the results are recounted, then accept the results because the challenge failed and do not call and intimidate the person in charge. You don't know that??

 

[Seawytch]

You earn respect. And I don't respect people who put others on ignore.

Like how you put CNN on ignore?

You’re a troll. You deserve to be ignored.

I don't watch CNN but CNN is not a poster on this forum, it is a tabloid station. Then put me on ignore again. LOL.

So what is considered a credible news source and not "tabloid"?

Through my job I get daily news articles too from unbiased sources. Now they are finance/econ themed but still give a good gauge of today's stories.

I was a fox news watcher for a long time. Not the Hannitys and Oreillys and the other opinionists. I watched the anchors and Early morning Fox and Friends. However, they led me to believe that Biden was in his basement everyday, refused to meet with reporters, had minimal gatherings for rallies ..... they even told me that he said something along the lines of "the voters don't deserve to know what my plan is".....they told me he called one supporter a liar; threatened another supporter to prove his manhood....never a positive word about the guy.

And what happens? He beats a sitting President who got the most votes a sitting President ever got in history.

I turned to my wife and said "Fox news is as biased as the rest of them. No way a guy that doesn't campaign and actually insults his supporters could beat someone with tens of thousands of people at rallies"....and all we do for news now is the WSJ. In the morning? We watch HGTV. Fixer upper. Property Brothers. Love it or list it. Soft and fun.

There is no unbiased TV news organization anymore.

He beat the sitting President with the worst approval rating in modern history. It wasn’t a stretch.

Yet the same president garnered 75 mil votes. Says something...

Right but the challenger garnered 80 mil votes, says more.

It was actually 81 to 74. And change.

Yep...so we just ignore 74.2 mil? OK.

Are you feeling ignored? Tell me, how did Trump pay attention to Hillary Clinton voters? He do a lot of outreach to them?

 

[Dragonlady]

The best I can do in understanding Trump and his supporters is to recall the embrace of "alternate facts." If the number of people actually attending a rally are not what Trump wants … change the picture literally to show a bigger crowd. If a hurricane is not going where he wants it to go, literally change the picture showing its path. I don't understand that. I mean if the doctor tells me I have cancer or that my blood sugar is out of whack, then I have to deal with those facts.

And this is the thing I find strange about Trumpsters. I get him. He is an easy read. He's a charlatan, pure and simple. What I don't get is that so many people either believe him outright or give him such a free pass on such obvious lies.

“Charlatans” don’t say common sense things like we need to be building our own technology and pharmaceuticals again, instead of allowing China to make 99% of them.

They also don’t stand up to the Washington Establishment and refuse warmongers paid by Defense contractors.

The “charlatans” are the ones pushing all that crap. The Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and the Bidens of Washington.

LOLOL.. Maybe Trump doesn't know the difference between China and Germany. Check EVERYTHING Trump says.. He's stupendously ignorant.

For four years you all have been claiming he is “stupid” or a “liar”, yet can never seem to give examples of his lies or where he is wrong.

His list of lies would wrap around the WH a thousand times, you are just in denial.

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The Democrats are the racists. That is why black children are stuck in substandard schools. They keep Blacks down so they can use them. That is why the disputed votes come from counties with a lot of Black votes. All so they can play the race card.

History in this country shows that Black Americans do BETTER under Democrats than Republicans.

Then why are you still whining about reparations and burning and looting?

What is reparations? What is the criteria for reparations?

Did you whine when Pres. Reagan gave reparations to Japanese-Americans? I'll answer it for you. Hell no.

Did you whine when others were given reparations? Hell no. You don't want to talk about reparations for black folks because of the hundreds of years of injustice that black folks suffered in this country.

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Ummm...Beto literally said he wanted to take guns? Biden literally said he believes America is systemically racist.

It is.

No it isn't. Stop being such a victim.

When you are black for a few years I will listen to you.

Cry me a river. I am a Jew. My oldest had a swastika painted on her school locker last year. I don't the country systemically antisemitic.

Didn't the Jews receive reparations for the Holocaust?

Yup...they call it Israel.

Israel is our ancient homeland.

Alot of Jews don't live in Israel.

A lot is two words and a lot do. It is still our ancient homeland. If a Native American moves to France, is America not his native homeland still? Durrrr.....

What does any of that have to do with didn't Jews receive reparations.

Because Israel does not equate to reparations. It wasn't given to us, we took it back. Read Exodus and educate yourself. Jews don't whine, we work together and succeed. We are a much more significant minority than blacks in America.

Jews don't whine?????? Jews INVENTED whining. Admittedly, you've been treated like shit throughout history, and if this is what it means to be "God's chosen people", I'm grateful I was born Christian, but the whiniest people I know are Jewish. You've raised it to an art form, as practiced by every Jewish comedian since the dawn of time.

Jews INVENTED whining.

All you need to see from this antisemite.

Half my family was never born due to the Holocaust

Yet I never blamed todays German citizens, nationals or immigrants.

I have been told by leaders of our country that I owe the black community reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. My ancestors? They were dying in Germany at the time. My ancestors had nothing to do with slavery. They were treated just as poorly as slaves by the Germans.

But I am the whiner?

Do people really know what they are saying?

Got it.

Thank you.

My grandfather on my dad's side died in the Battle of Stalingrad while my dad was still in my grandmothers stomach. She, my dad and his older sister are all that are left of that side of the family. On my mom's side, my grandmother and her brother were all that were left after the Nazis killed 20+ members of her family. I never once blamed the German people for it. Don't want reparations. I am proud of my heritage. Our peoples struggles and our will to survive and thrive.

If that is whining then so be it.

We have a similar background and a similar view of it.

I hate what my ancestors went through but I was lucky to not have to experience it. SO I am strong for it, not hateful for it and in no way do I whine about it.

100%

This is why Jews thrive. We help one another. We don't kill one another at record rates and then blame racism for it.

Actually the world helped you after the Holocaust, after slavery black folks moved into Jim Crow segregation, more racism and more discrimination. So trying to equate the plight of Jewish people to black folks in America is a disgrace.

Muslims are still trying to eradicate the Jews, Stupid.

You aren’t getting reparations.

Welfare and section 8 are long standing reparations. We just won’t throw more money away over 150 years ago to soothe their silly savage feelings that they are due more and then suddenly will join and participate in mainstream society in return

Welfare and Section 8 aren't "reparations". They're part of the social safety net for poor people.

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

In other words, you think that this kind of behavior is acceptable, yes? If Biden pulled a shit stunt like this, you would want his balls on a platter.

You have to put America's rightwing into the proper perspective. These are the same freaks who defended Trump when he tossed paper towels to flood victims.

And Democrat liberals who cheered when Pelosi ripped up a STOU speech on camera, and held back aid to suffering American's in this pandemic because she didn't want to give a win to Trump.....You fucking hacks have NO STANDING to call anyone anything!

Pelosi didn't "hold back aid". She passed two bills giving more aid to suffering Americans, and Mitch McConnell wouldn't even take them up, much less negotiate with the House on these deals.

As for ripping up Trump's "STOU" speech, well how terrible!!! How many Americans died because of this egrious action? SHE DISRESPECTED TRUMP!!!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

In other words, how dare we call Trump on his illegal actions, many of which have caused thousands of innocent Americans to die, millions to fall into poverty, and the economy to be destroyed.

Hey, I’m with ya on aid...I think we should be getting more. So does the President btw.
what law did Trump break?

Everything he''s done to "overturn" the results of the election. The Attorney General of Georgia is looking at filing charges today.

So, it’s ok for a Democrat to challenge an election, but not for a republican?

He's not "challenging an election". He's trying to steal it. He's had two months to challenge the election, and the courts say he has no evidence and no case.

Time to behave like a grown up and admit defeat.

 

[Bobob]

You earn respect. And I don't respect people who put others on ignore.

Like how you put CNN on ignore?

You’re a troll. You deserve to be ignored.

I don't watch CNN but CNN is not a poster on this forum, it is a tabloid station. Then put me on ignore again. LOL.

So what is considered a credible news source and not "tabloid"?

Through my job I get daily news articles too from unbiased sources. Now they are finance/econ themed but still give a good gauge of today's stories.

I was a fox news watcher for a long time. Not the Hannitys and Oreillys and the other opinionists. I watched the anchors and Early morning Fox and Friends. However, they led me to believe that Biden was in his basement everyday, refused to meet with reporters, had minimal gatherings for rallies ..... they even told me that he said something along the lines of "the voters don't deserve to know what my plan is".....they told me he called one supporter a liar; threatened another supporter to prove his manhood....never a positive word about the guy.

And what happens? He beats a sitting President who got the most votes a sitting President ever got in history.

I turned to my wife and said "Fox news is as biased as the rest of them. No way a guy that doesn't campaign and actually insults his supporters could beat someone with tens of thousands of people at rallies"....and all we do for news now is the WSJ. In the morning? We watch HGTV. Fixer upper. Property Brothers. Love it or list it. Soft and fun.

There is no unbiased TV news organization anymore.

He beat the sitting President with the worst approval rating in modern history. It wasn’t a stretch.

Yet the same president garnered 75 mil votes. Says something...

Right but the challenger garnered 80 mil votes, says more.

It was actually 81 to 74. And change.

Yep...so we just ignore 74.2 mil? OK.

Are you feeling ignored? Tell me, how did Trump pay attention to Hillary Clinton voters? He do a lot of outreach to them?

Outreach by Trump? Never! He decided not to be the president of those who didn't vote for him and made that clear time and time again. He was not the president of ALL the people--only those who voted for him.

 

[SC Patriot]

You earn respect. And I don't respect people who put others on ignore.

Like how you put CNN on ignore?

You’re a troll. You deserve to be ignored.

I don't watch CNN but CNN is not a poster on this forum, it is a tabloid station. Then put me on ignore again. LOL.

So what is considered a credible news source and not "tabloid"?

Through my job I get daily news articles too from unbiased sources. Now they are finance/econ themed but still give a good gauge of today's stories.

I was a fox news watcher for a long time. Not the Hannitys and Oreillys and the other opinionists. I watched the anchors and Early morning Fox and Friends. However, they led me to believe that Biden was in his basement everyday, refused to meet with reporters, had minimal gatherings for rallies ..... they even told me that he said something along the lines of "the voters don't deserve to know what my plan is".....they told me he called one supporter a liar; threatened another supporter to prove his manhood....never a positive word about the guy.

And what happens? He beats a sitting President who got the most votes a sitting President ever got in history.

I turned to my wife and said "Fox news is as biased as the rest of them. No way a guy that doesn't campaign and actually insults his supporters could beat someone with tens of thousands of people at rallies"....and all we do for news now is the WSJ. In the morning? We watch HGTV. Fixer upper. Property Brothers. Love it or list it. Soft and fun.

There is no unbiased TV news organization anymore.

He beat the sitting President with the worst approval rating in modern history. It wasn’t a stretch.

Yet the same president garnered 75 mil votes. Says something...

Right but the challenger garnered 80 mil votes, says more.

It was actually 81 to 74. And change.

Yep...so we just ignore 74.2 mil? OK.

Are you feeling ignored? Tell me, how did Trump pay attention to Hillary Clinton voters? He do a lot of outreach to them?

Outreach by Trump? Never! He decided not to be the president of those who didn't vote for him and made that clear time and time again. He was not the president of ALL the people--only those who voted for him.

Curious.....I recall hearing Rachel Maddow say the same thing.

So tell me....exactly what policies did he push and or endorse that were only for those that voted for him?

And don't get on that "didn't want to fund states run by Democrats"....that is a normal approach where the federal government should not be responsible for bailing out states run by governors that overspend on groups of people like union pensions to be popular.

It is the people of that state who should decide what to do...such as voting otherwise next time.

So tell me....what policy did he endorse that was only for Trump voters?

 

[colfax_m]

So tell me....exactly what policies did he push and or endorse that were only for those that voted for him?

Repeal of SALT deductions disproportionately affected blue states.

 

[Seawytch]

You earn respect. And I don't respect people who put others on ignore.

Like how you put CNN on ignore?

You’re a troll. You deserve to be ignored.

I don't watch CNN but CNN is not a poster on this forum, it is a tabloid station. Then put me on ignore again. LOL.

So what is considered a credible news source and not "tabloid"?

Through my job I get daily news articles too from unbiased sources. Now they are finance/econ themed but still give a good gauge of today's stories.

I was a fox news watcher for a long time. Not the Hannitys and Oreillys and the other opinionists. I watched the anchors and Early morning Fox and Friends. However, they led me to believe that Biden was in his basement everyday, refused to meet with reporters, had minimal gatherings for rallies ..... they even told me that he said something along the lines of "the voters don't deserve to know what my plan is".....they told me he called one supporter a liar; threatened another supporter to prove his manhood....never a positive word about the guy.

And what happens? He beats a sitting President who got the most votes a sitting President ever got in history.

I turned to my wife and said "Fox news is as biased as the rest of them. No way a guy that doesn't campaign and actually insults his supporters could beat someone with tens of thousands of people at rallies"....and all we do for news now is the WSJ. In the morning? We watch HGTV. Fixer upper. Property Brothers. Love it or list it. Soft and fun.

There is no unbiased TV news organization anymore.

He beat the sitting President with the worst approval rating in modern history. It wasn’t a stretch.

Yet the same president garnered 75 mil votes. Says something...

Right but the challenger garnered 80 mil votes, says more.

It was actually 81 to 74. And change.

Yep...so we just ignore 74.2 mil? OK.

Are you feeling ignored? Tell me, how did Trump pay attention to Hillary Clinton voters? He do a lot of outreach to them?

Outreach by Trump? Never! He decided not to be the president of those who didn't vote for him and made that clear time and time again. He was not the president of ALL the people--only those who voted for him.

Curious.....I recall hearing Rachel Maddow say the same thing.

So tell me....exactly what policies did he push and or endorse that were only for those that voted for him?

And don't get on that "didn't want to fund states run by Democrats"....that is a normal approach where the federal government should not be responsible for bailing out states run by governors that overspend on groups of people like union pensions to be popular.

It is the people of that state who should decide what to do...such as voting otherwise next time.

So tell me....what policy did he endorse that was only for Trump voters?

What policies of Biden's will only apply to those that voted for him? None so your "argument" is ridiculous. AzogtheDefiler keeps harping on Trump voters being "ignored" because Biden won. Ignored how? They won't be "ignored" the way Trump ignored Hillary voters.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

The best I can do in understanding Trump and his supporters is to recall the embrace of "alternate facts." If the number of people actually attending a rally are not what Trump wants … change the picture literally to show a bigger crowd. If a hurricane is not going where he wants it to go, literally change the picture showing its path. I don't understand that. I mean if the doctor tells me I have cancer or that my blood sugar is out of whack, then I have to deal with those facts.

And this is the thing I find strange about Trumpsters. I get him. He is an easy read. He's a charlatan, pure and simple. What I don't get is that so many people either believe him outright or give him such a free pass on such obvious lies.

“Charlatans” don’t say common sense things like we need to be building our own technology and pharmaceuticals again, instead of allowing China to make 99% of them.

They also don’t stand up to the Washington Establishment and refuse warmongers paid by Defense contractors.

The “charlatans” are the ones pushing all that crap. The Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and the Bidens of Washington.

LOLOL.. Maybe Trump doesn't know the difference between China and Germany. Check EVERYTHING Trump says.. He's stupendously ignorant.

For four years you all have been claiming he is “stupid” or a “liar”, yet can never seem to give examples of his lies or where he is wrong.

His list of lies would wrap around the WH a thousand times, you are just in denial.

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The Democrats are the racists. That is why black children are stuck in substandard schools. They keep Blacks down so they can use them. That is why the disputed votes come from counties with a lot of Black votes. All so they can play the race card.

History in this country shows that Black Americans do BETTER under Democrats than Republicans.

Then why are you still whining about reparations and burning and looting?

What is reparations? What is the criteria for reparations?

Did you whine when Pres. Reagan gave reparations to Japanese-Americans? I'll answer it for you. Hell no.

Did you whine when others were given reparations? Hell no. You don't want to talk about reparations for black folks because of the hundreds of years of injustice that black folks suffered in this country.

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Ummm...Beto literally said he wanted to take guns? Biden literally said he believes America is systemically racist.

It is.

No it isn't. Stop being such a victim.

When you are black for a few years I will listen to you.

Cry me a river. I am a Jew. My oldest had a swastika painted on her school locker last year. I don't the country systemically antisemitic.

Didn't the Jews receive reparations for the Holocaust?

Yup...they call it Israel.

Israel is our ancient homeland.

Alot of Jews don't live in Israel.

A lot is two words and a lot do. It is still our ancient homeland. If a Native American moves to France, is America not his native homeland still? Durrrr.....

What does any of that have to do with didn't Jews receive reparations.

Because Israel does not equate to reparations. It wasn't given to us, we took it back. Read Exodus and educate yourself. Jews don't whine, we work together and succeed. We are a much more significant minority than blacks in America.

Jews don't whine?????? Jews INVENTED whining. Admittedly, you've been treated like shit throughout history, and if this is what it means to be "God's chosen people", I'm grateful I was born Christian, but the whiniest people I know are Jewish. You've raised it to an art form, as practiced by every Jewish comedian since the dawn of time.

Jews INVENTED whining.

All you need to see from this antisemite.

Half my family was never born due to the Holocaust

Yet I never blamed todays German citizens, nationals or immigrants.

I have been told by leaders of our country that I owe the black community reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. My ancestors? They were dying in Germany at the time. My ancestors had nothing to do with slavery. They were treated just as poorly as slaves by the Germans.

But I am the whiner?

Do people really know what they are saying?

Got it.

Thank you.

My grandfather on my dad's side died in the Battle of Stalingrad while my dad was still in my grandmothers stomach. She, my dad and his older sister are all that are left of that side of the family. On my mom's side, my grandmother and her brother were all that were left after the Nazis killed 20+ members of her family. I never once blamed the German people for it. Don't want reparations. I am proud of my heritage. Our peoples struggles and our will to survive and thrive.

If that is whining then so be it.

We have a similar background and a similar view of it.

I hate what my ancestors went through but I was lucky to not have to experience it. SO I am strong for it, not hateful for it and in no way do I whine about it.

100%

This is why Jews thrive. We help one another. We don't kill one another at record rates and then blame racism for it.

Actually the world helped you after the Holocaust, after slavery black folks moved into Jim Crow segregation, more racism and more discrimination. So trying to equate the plight of Jewish people to black folks in America is a disgrace.

Muslims are still trying to eradicate the Jews, Stupid.

You aren’t getting reparations.

Welfare and section 8 are long standing reparations. We just won’t throw more money away over 150 years ago to soothe their silly savage feelings that they are due more and then suddenly will join and participate in mainstream society in return

Welfare and Section 8 aren't "reparations". They're part of the social safety net for poor people.

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

In other words, you think that this kind of behavior is acceptable, yes? If Biden pulled a shit stunt like this, you would want his balls on a platter.

You have to put America's rightwing into the proper perspective. These are the same freaks who defended Trump when he tossed paper towels to flood victims.

And Democrat liberals who cheered when Pelosi ripped up a STOU speech on camera, and held back aid to suffering American's in this pandemic because she didn't want to give a win to Trump.....You fucking hacks have NO STANDING to call anyone anything!

Pelosi didn't "hold back aid". She passed two bills giving more aid to suffering Americans, and Mitch McConnell wouldn't even take them up, much less negotiate with the House on these deals.

As for ripping up Trump's "STOU" speech, well how terrible!!! How many Americans died because of this egrious action? SHE DISRESPECTED TRUMP!!!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

In other words, how dare we call Trump on his illegal actions, many of which have caused thousands of innocent Americans to die, millions to fall into poverty, and the economy to be destroyed.

Hey, I’m with ya on aid...I think we should be getting more. So does the President btw.
what law did Trump break?

Everything he''s done to "overturn" the results of the election. The Attorney General of Georgia is looking at filing charges today.

So, it’s ok for a Democrat to challenge an election, but not for a republican?

He's not "challenging an election". He's trying to steal it. He's had two months to challenge the election, and the courts say he has no evidence and no case.

Time to behave like a grown up and admit defeat.

Not going to happen...Trump will whine until they bury him...and maybe a week after.

 

[SC Patriot]

So tell me....exactly what policies did he push and or endorse that were only for those that voted for him?

Repeal of SALT deductions disproportionately affected blue states.

Only because they have unusually high real estate taxes. I lived in NY until 4 years ago. My RE taxes were over 15K a year in Nassau County. Yet, my garbage pick up was often delayed for no apparent reason, my streets in my neighborhood were treacherous at best with the pot holes and protruding man hole covers. My schools were OK from a teaching standpoint, but many children found themselves in corrugated huts with space heaters due to growth of student body....and then I move to SC where the streets are not only well paved, but widened when traffic calls for it, the schools are expanded with brick and mortar and I pay 300 a year for garbage pick up.....yet my taxes are 1200 a year for a house that is 1500 square feet larger than the one I owned in NY.
So you can blame Trump if you want......but why do I not have that SALT deduction problem now, but would have for less services if I still lived in NY?

 

[SC Patriot]

You earn respect. And I don't respect people who put others on ignore.

Like how you put CNN on ignore?

You’re a troll. You deserve to be ignored.

I don't watch CNN but CNN is not a poster on this forum, it is a tabloid station. Then put me on ignore again. LOL.

So what is considered a credible news source and not "tabloid"?

Through my job I get daily news articles too from unbiased sources. Now they are finance/econ themed but still give a good gauge of today's stories.

I was a fox news watcher for a long time. Not the Hannitys and Oreillys and the other opinionists. I watched the anchors and Early morning Fox and Friends. However, they led me to believe that Biden was in his basement everyday, refused to meet with reporters, had minimal gatherings for rallies ..... they even told me that he said something along the lines of "the voters don't deserve to know what my plan is".....they told me he called one supporter a liar; threatened another supporter to prove his manhood....never a positive word about the guy.

And what happens? He beats a sitting President who got the most votes a sitting President ever got in history.

I turned to my wife and said "Fox news is as biased as the rest of them. No way a guy that doesn't campaign and actually insults his supporters could beat someone with tens of thousands of people at rallies"....and all we do for news now is the WSJ. In the morning? We watch HGTV. Fixer upper. Property Brothers. Love it or list it. Soft and fun.

There is no unbiased TV news organization anymore.

He beat the sitting President with the worst approval rating in modern history. It wasn’t a stretch.

Yet the same president garnered 75 mil votes. Says something...

Right but the challenger garnered 80 mil votes, says more.

It was actually 81 to 74. And change.

Yep...so we just ignore 74.2 mil? OK.

Are you feeling ignored? Tell me, how did Trump pay attention to Hillary Clinton voters? He do a lot of outreach to them?

Outreach by Trump? Never! He decided not to be the president of those who didn't vote for him and made that clear time and time again. He was not the president of ALL the people--only those who voted for him.

Curious.....I recall hearing Rachel Maddow say the same thing.

So tell me....exactly what policies did he push and or endorse that were only for those that voted for him?

And don't get on that "didn't want to fund states run by Democrats"....that is a normal approach where the federal government should not be responsible for bailing out states run by governors that overspend on groups of people like union pensions to be popular.

It is the people of that state who should decide what to do...such as voting otherwise next time.

So tell me....what policy did he endorse that was only for Trump voters?

What policies of Biden's will only apply to those that voted for him? None so your "argument" is ridiculous. AzogtheDefiler keeps harping on Trump voters being "ignored" because Biden won. Ignored how? They won't be "ignored" the way Trump ignored Hillary voters.

I would answer that question if I could. But he has refused to explain what his policy plans are so far....

And I never said his policies were for only HIS voters. I simply responded to the statement that Trump had policies ONLY for his voters.

And, as it the norm for you....you simply answered my question with a question..

"I know you are but what am I" seems to work well for your ego.

 

[SC Patriot]

The best I can do in understanding Trump and his supporters is to recall the embrace of "alternate facts." If the number of people actually attending a rally are not what Trump wants … change the picture literally to show a bigger crowd. If a hurricane is not going where he wants it to go, literally change the picture showing its path. I don't understand that. I mean if the doctor tells me I have cancer or that my blood sugar is out of whack, then I have to deal with those facts.

And this is the thing I find strange about Trumpsters. I get him. He is an easy read. He's a charlatan, pure and simple. What I don't get is that so many people either believe him outright or give him such a free pass on such obvious lies.

“Charlatans” don’t say common sense things like we need to be building our own technology and pharmaceuticals again, instead of allowing China to make 99% of them.

They also don’t stand up to the Washington Establishment and refuse warmongers paid by Defense contractors.

The “charlatans” are the ones pushing all that crap. The Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and the Bidens of Washington.

LOLOL.. Maybe Trump doesn't know the difference between China and Germany. Check EVERYTHING Trump says.. He's stupendously ignorant.

For four years you all have been claiming he is “stupid” or a “liar”, yet can never seem to give examples of his lies or where he is wrong.

His list of lies would wrap around the WH a thousand times, you are just in denial.

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The Democrats are the racists. That is why black children are stuck in substandard schools. They keep Blacks down so they can use them. That is why the disputed votes come from counties with a lot of Black votes. All so they can play the race card.

History in this country shows that Black Americans do BETTER under Democrats than Republicans.

Then why are you still whining about reparations and burning and looting?

What is reparations? What is the criteria for reparations?

Did you whine when Pres. Reagan gave reparations to Japanese-Americans? I'll answer it for you. Hell no.

Did you whine when others were given reparations? Hell no. You don't want to talk about reparations for black folks because of the hundreds of years of injustice that black folks suffered in this country.

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Ummm...Beto literally said he wanted to take guns? Biden literally said he believes America is systemically racist.

It is.

No it isn't. Stop being such a victim.

When you are black for a few years I will listen to you.

Cry me a river. I am a Jew. My oldest had a swastika painted on her school locker last year. I don't the country systemically antisemitic.

Didn't the Jews receive reparations for the Holocaust?

Yup...they call it Israel.

Israel is our ancient homeland.

Alot of Jews don't live in Israel.

A lot is two words and a lot do. It is still our ancient homeland. If a Native American moves to France, is America not his native homeland still? Durrrr.....

What does any of that have to do with didn't Jews receive reparations.

Because Israel does not equate to reparations. It wasn't given to us, we took it back. Read Exodus and educate yourself. Jews don't whine, we work together and succeed. We are a much more significant minority than blacks in America.

Jews don't whine?????? Jews INVENTED whining. Admittedly, you've been treated like shit throughout history, and if this is what it means to be "God's chosen people", I'm grateful I was born Christian, but the whiniest people I know are Jewish. You've raised it to an art form, as practiced by every Jewish comedian since the dawn of time.

Jews INVENTED whining.

All you need to see from this antisemite.

Half my family was never born due to the Holocaust

Yet I never blamed todays German citizens, nationals or immigrants.

I have been told by leaders of our country that I owe the black community reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. My ancestors? They were dying in Germany at the time. My ancestors had nothing to do with slavery. They were treated just as poorly as slaves by the Germans.

But I am the whiner?

Do people really know what they are saying?

Got it.

Thank you.

My grandfather on my dad's side died in the Battle of Stalingrad while my dad was still in my grandmothers stomach. She, my dad and his older sister are all that are left of that side of the family. On my mom's side, my grandmother and her brother were all that were left after the Nazis killed 20+ members of her family. I never once blamed the German people for it. Don't want reparations. I am proud of my heritage. Our peoples struggles and our will to survive and thrive.

If that is whining then so be it.

We have a similar background and a similar view of it.

I hate what my ancestors went through but I was lucky to not have to experience it. SO I am strong for it, not hateful for it and in no way do I whine about it.

100%

This is why Jews thrive. We help one another. We don't kill one another at record rates and then blame racism for it.

Actually the world helped you after the Holocaust, after slavery black folks moved into Jim Crow segregation, more racism and more discrimination. So trying to equate the plight of Jewish people to black folks in America is a disgrace.

Muslims are still trying to eradicate the Jews, Stupid.

You aren’t getting reparations.

Welfare and section 8 are long standing reparations. We just won’t throw more money away over 150 years ago to soothe their silly savage feelings that they are due more and then suddenly will join and participate in mainstream society in return

Welfare and Section 8 aren't "reparations". They're part of the social safety net for poor people.

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

In other words, you think that this kind of behavior is acceptable, yes? If Biden pulled a shit stunt like this, you would want his balls on a platter.

You have to put America's rightwing into the proper perspective. These are the same freaks who defended Trump when he tossed paper towels to flood victims.

And Democrat liberals who cheered when Pelosi ripped up a STOU speech on camera, and held back aid to suffering American's in this pandemic because she didn't want to give a win to Trump.....You fucking hacks have NO STANDING to call anyone anything!

Pelosi didn't "hold back aid". She passed two bills giving more aid to suffering Americans, and Mitch McConnell wouldn't even take them up, much less negotiate with the House on these deals.

As for ripping up Trump's "STOU" speech, well how terrible!!! How many Americans died because of this egrious action? SHE DISRESPECTED TRUMP!!!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

In other words, how dare we call Trump on his illegal actions, many of which have caused thousands of innocent Americans to die, millions to fall into poverty, and the economy to be destroyed.

Hey, I’m with ya on aid...I think we should be getting more. So does the President btw.
what law did Trump break?

Everything he''s done to "overturn" the results of the election. The Attorney General of Georgia is looking at filing charges today.

So, it’s ok for a Democrat to challenge an election, but not for a republican?

He's not "challenging an election". He's trying to steal it. He's had two months to challenge the election, and the courts say he has no evidence and no case.

Time to behave like a grown up and admit defeat.

Not going to happen...Trump will whine until they bury him...and maybe a week after.

I am sure a childish post like this makes you feel good.

Go for it.

My guess is it is all you have.

 

[Bobob]

The best I can do in understanding Trump and his supporters is to recall the embrace of "alternate facts." If the number of people actually attending a rally are not what Trump wants … change the picture literally to show a bigger crowd. If a hurricane is not going where he wants it to go, literally change the picture showing its path. I don't understand that. I mean if the doctor tells me I have cancer or that my blood sugar is out of whack, then I have to deal with those facts.

And this is the thing I find strange about Trumpsters. I get him. He is an easy read. He's a charlatan, pure and simple. What I don't get is that so many people either believe him outright or give him such a free pass on such obvious lies.

“Charlatans” don’t say common sense things like we need to be building our own technology and pharmaceuticals again, instead of allowing China to make 99% of them.

They also don’t stand up to the Washington Establishment and refuse warmongers paid by Defense contractors.

The “charlatans” are the ones pushing all that crap. The Bushes, the Clintons, Obama, and the Bidens of Washington.

LOLOL.. Maybe Trump doesn't know the difference between China and Germany. Check EVERYTHING Trump says.. He's stupendously ignorant.

For four years you all have been claiming he is “stupid” or a “liar”, yet can never seem to give examples of his lies or where he is wrong.

His list of lies would wrap around the WH a thousand times, you are just in denial.

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The Democrats are the racists. That is why black children are stuck in substandard schools. They keep Blacks down so they can use them. That is why the disputed votes come from counties with a lot of Black votes. All so they can play the race card.

History in this country shows that Black Americans do BETTER under Democrats than Republicans.

Then why are you still whining about reparations and burning and looting?

What is reparations? What is the criteria for reparations?

Did you whine when Pres. Reagan gave reparations to Japanese-Americans? I'll answer it for you. Hell no.

Did you whine when others were given reparations? Hell no. You don't want to talk about reparations for black folks because of the hundreds of years of injustice that black folks suffered in this country.

The reason why they don't want reparations to black people is because they use the reparations garbage to frighten stupid people into not voting for a black person or a democratic politician.

It's a simple as that.

It's one of their "boogie man" issues they use to get stupid people to vote against their nation and best interest and vote for a republican.

It's much like their "the democrats are going to take your weapons!" scare tactic ploy they use all the time.

Ummm...Beto literally said he wanted to take guns? Biden literally said he believes America is systemically racist.

It is.

No it isn't. Stop being such a victim.

When you are black for a few years I will listen to you.

Cry me a river. I am a Jew. My oldest had a swastika painted on her school locker last year. I don't the country systemically antisemitic.

Didn't the Jews receive reparations for the Holocaust?

Yup...they call it Israel.

Israel is our ancient homeland.

Alot of Jews don't live in Israel.

A lot is two words and a lot do. It is still our ancient homeland. If a Native American moves to France, is America not his native homeland still? Durrrr.....

What does any of that have to do with didn't Jews receive reparations.

Because Israel does not equate to reparations. It wasn't given to us, we took it back. Read Exodus and educate yourself. Jews don't whine, we work together and succeed. We are a much more significant minority than blacks in America.

Jews don't whine?????? Jews INVENTED whining. Admittedly, you've been treated like shit throughout history, and if this is what it means to be "God's chosen people", I'm grateful I was born Christian, but the whiniest people I know are Jewish. You've raised it to an art form, as practiced by every Jewish comedian since the dawn of time.

Jews INVENTED whining.

All you need to see from this antisemite.

Half my family was never born due to the Holocaust

Yet I never blamed todays German citizens, nationals or immigrants.

I have been told by leaders of our country that I owe the black community reparations for what my ancestors did to their ancestors. My ancestors? They were dying in Germany at the time. My ancestors had nothing to do with slavery. They were treated just as poorly as slaves by the Germans.

But I am the whiner?

Do people really know what they are saying?

Got it.

Thank you.

My grandfather on my dad's side died in the Battle of Stalingrad while my dad was still in my grandmothers stomach. She, my dad and his older sister are all that are left of that side of the family. On my mom's side, my grandmother and her brother were all that were left after the Nazis killed 20+ members of her family. I never once blamed the German people for it. Don't want reparations. I am proud of my heritage. Our peoples struggles and our will to survive and thrive.

If that is whining then so be it.

We have a similar background and a similar view of it.

I hate what my ancestors went through but I was lucky to not have to experience it. SO I am strong for it, not hateful for it and in no way do I whine about it.

100%

This is why Jews thrive. We help one another. We don't kill one another at record rates and then blame racism for it.

Actually the world helped you after the Holocaust, after slavery black folks moved into Jim Crow segregation, more racism and more discrimination. So trying to equate the plight of Jewish people to black folks in America is a disgrace.

Muslims are still trying to eradicate the Jews, Stupid.

You aren’t getting reparations.

Welfare and section 8 are long standing reparations. We just won’t throw more money away over 150 years ago to soothe their silly savage feelings that they are due more and then suddenly will join and participate in mainstream society in return

Welfare and Section 8 aren't "reparations". They're part of the social safety net for poor people.

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is talking about sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected governement of the United States of America.

sounds just like your Russian Collusion bullshit

In other words, you think that this kind of behavior is acceptable, yes? If Biden pulled a shit stunt like this, you would want his balls on a platter.

You have to put America's rightwing into the proper perspective. These are the same freaks who defended Trump when he tossed paper towels to flood victims.

And Democrat liberals who cheered when Pelosi ripped up a STOU speech on camera, and held back aid to suffering American's in this pandemic because she didn't want to give a win to Trump.....You fucking hacks have NO STANDING to call anyone anything!

Pelosi didn't "hold back aid". She passed two bills giving more aid to suffering Americans, and Mitch McConnell wouldn't even take them up, much less negotiate with the House on these deals.

As for ripping up Trump's "STOU" speech, well how terrible!!! How many Americans died because of this egrious action? SHE DISRESPECTED TRUMP!!!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!

In other words, how dare we call Trump on his illegal actions, many of which have caused thousands of innocent Americans to die, millions to fall into poverty, and the economy to be destroyed.

Hey, I’m with ya on aid...I think we should be getting more. So does the President btw.
what law did Trump break?

Everything he''s done to "overturn" the results of the election. The Attorney General of Georgia is looking at filing charges today.

So, it’s ok for a Democrat to challenge an election, but not for a republican?

He's not "challenging an election". He's trying to steal it. He's had two months to challenge the election, and the courts say he has no evidence and no case.

Time to behave like a grown up and admit defeat.

Not going to happen...Trump will whine until they bury him...and maybe a week after.

I am sure a childish post like this makes you feel good.

Go for it.

My guess is it is all you have.

How does it feel? Same kind of post that your brethren use when they make childish remarks about Biden and Harris, yes?

 

[Faun]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

What an ass you are. All he did was ask if they could find those votes. Sedition my ass you idiot.

You are good for a laugh though. Lets see how you like Biden as POTUS when he implements the list of things he wants to do. Hope you enjoy because no other Americans will. Dumbass.

"All he did was ask if they could find those votes."

... or face the risk of committing a criminal offense.

LMAO. You are so full of shit. But then you're a Dem who thinks nothing of a stolen election.

You will regret your Biden vote and it won't take long. Carry on shit master.

The election hasn't been stolen yet despite Impeached Trump's best efforts.

Oh it was stolen all right and if Biden were Trump you would be screaming election fraud long and loud and all the proof would be legitimate. You would be telling everybody on the board how legitimate the proof is.

LOL

By stolen, you mean Biden getting 74 more electoral votes than Impeached Trump? Or Biden getting some 7 million more popular votes? That's stolen, huh?

Once you said "impeached Trump" when it was a Democratic Majority house that voted to impeach him with no real evidence...your credibility went form zero to negative territory

LOL

Is that supposed to mean that mean Trump wasn't impeached? And yes, there was real evidence. His perfect call where he broke the law by soliciting a foreign national to help him with his campaign.

 

[SC Patriot]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

What an ass you are. All he did was ask if they could find those votes. Sedition my ass you idiot.

You are good for a laugh though. Lets see how you like Biden as POTUS when he implements the list of things he wants to do. Hope you enjoy because no other Americans will. Dumbass.

"All he did was ask if they could find those votes."

... or face the risk of committing a criminal offense.

LMAO. You are so full of shit. But then you're a Dem who thinks nothing of a stolen election.

You will regret your Biden vote and it won't take long. Carry on shit master.

The election hasn't been stolen yet despite Impeached Trump's best efforts.

Oh it was stolen all right and if Biden were Trump you would be screaming election fraud long and loud and all the proof would be legitimate. You would be telling everybody on the board how legitimate the proof is.

LOL

By stolen, you mean Biden getting 74 more electoral votes than Impeached Trump? Or Biden getting some 7 million more popular votes? That's stolen, huh?

Once you said "impeached Trump" when it was a Democratic Majority house that voted to impeach him with no real evidence...your credibility went form zero to negative territory

LOL

Is that supposed to mean that mean Trump wasn't impeached? And yes, there was real evidence. His perfect call where he broke the law by soliciting a foreign national to help him with his campaign.

Go for it.
I dont debate people who regurgitate without actually applying their own thinking.
Sorry.

 

[Claudette]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

What an ass you are. All he did was ask if they could find those votes. Sedition my ass you idiot.

You are good for a laugh though. Lets see how you like Biden as POTUS when he implements the list of things he wants to do. Hope you enjoy because no other Americans will. Dumbass.

"All he did was ask if they could find those votes."

... or face the risk of committing a criminal offense.

LMAO. You are so full of shit. But then you're a Dem who thinks nothing of a stolen election.

You will regret your Biden vote and it won't take long. Carry on shit master.

The election hasn't been stolen yet despite Impeached Trump's best efforts.

Oh it was stolen all right and if Biden were Trump you would be screaming election fraud long and loud and all the proof would be legitimate. You would be telling everybody on the board how legitimate the proof is.

LOL

By stolen, you mean Biden getting 74 more electoral votes than Impeached Trump? Or Biden getting some 7 million more popular votes? That's stolen, huh?

Once you said "impeached Trump" when it was a Democratic Majority house that voted to impeach him with no real evidence...your credibility went form zero to negative territory

LOL

Is that supposed to mean that mean Trump wasn't impeached? And yes, there was real evidence. His perfect call where he broke the law by soliciting a foreign national to help him with his campaign.

Jesus are you stupid or what. Mueller cleared Trump and here you are beating that dead horse once again.

You need new material What you have is old, faded and sucks. LOL

 

[Faun]

How bout the votes that came in, in suitcases and were under tables.

There were no suitcases.

Oh and lets add the votes that came in, in a vehicle long after counting was done.

There were no votes coming in after voting was done.

Oh and lets not forget Dominion taking votes from Trump and giving them to Biden.

Dominion did not give Biden Trump votes.

And how bout Trump leading by 700,000 votes and then losing the State. Hell every vote that came in after that total had to be for Biden.

Trump only led until all the votes were counted. That's like crying that your team was cheated because they lost a game after being ahead, 21-7 at halftime.

Stolen?? You bet.

You're nuts.

 

[Dragonlady]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

What an ass you are. All he did was ask if they could find those votes. Sedition my ass you idiot.

You are good for a laugh though. Lets see how you like Biden as POTUS when he implements the list of things he wants to do. Hope you enjoy because no other Americans will. Dumbass.

"All he did was ask if they could find those votes."

... or face the risk of committing a criminal offense.

LMAO. You are so full of shit. But then you're a Dem who thinks nothing of a stolen election.

You will regret your Biden vote and it won't take long. Carry on shit master.

The election hasn't been stolen yet despite Impeached Trump's best efforts.

Oh it was stolen all right and if Biden were Trump you would be screaming election fraud long and loud and all the proof would be legitimate. You would be telling everybody on the board how legitimate the proof is.

LOL

By stolen, you mean Biden getting 74 more electoral votes than Impeached Trump? Or Biden getting some 7 million more popular votes? That's stolen, huh?

Once you said "impeached Trump" when it was a Democratic Majority house that voted to impeach him with no real evidence...your credibility went form zero to negative territory

LOL

Is that supposed to mean that mean Trump wasn't impeached? And yes, there was real evidence. His perfect call where he broke the law by soliciting a foreign national to help him with his campaign.

Go for it.
I dont debate people who regurgitate without actually applying their own thinking.
Sorry.

So you won't be responding to any post from the Trump Cult - including your own.

 

[Faun]

President Trump urged fellow Republican Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia secretary of state, to “find” enough votes to overturn his defeat in an extraordinary one-hour phone call Saturday that election experts said raised legal questions.

The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking “a big risk.”

Throughout the call, Raffensperger and his office’s general counsel rejected Trump’s assertions, explaining that the president is relying on debunked conspiracy theories and that President-elect Joe Biden’s 11,779-vote victory in Georgia was fair and accurate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Trump is engaging of sedition and overturning the will of the people through fraud.

Trump should be arrested for sedition for attempting to overthrow the newly elected government of the United States of America.

Everything Trump touches dies.

Is American democracy next?

What an ass you are. All he did was ask if they could find those votes. Sedition my ass you idiot.

You are good for a laugh though. Lets see how you like Biden as POTUS when he implements the list of things he wants to do. Hope you enjoy because no other Americans will. Dumbass.

"All he did was ask if they could find those votes."

... or face the risk of committing a criminal offense.

LMAO. You are so full of shit. But then you're a Dem who thinks nothing of a stolen election.

You will regret your Biden vote and it won't take long. Carry on shit master.

The election hasn't been stolen yet despite Impeached Trump's best efforts.

Oh it was stolen all right and if Biden were Trump you would be screaming election fraud long and loud and all the proof would be legitimate. You would be telling everybody on the board how legitimate the proof is.

LOL

By stolen, you mean Biden getting 74 more electoral votes than Impeached Trump? Or Biden getting some 7 million more popular votes? That's stolen, huh?

Once you said "impeached Trump" when it was a Democratic Majority house that voted to impeach him with no real evidence...your credibility went form zero to negative territory

LOL

Is that supposed to mean that mean Trump wasn't impeached? And yes, there was real evidence. His perfect call where he broke the law by soliciting a foreign national to help him with his campaign.

Jesus are you stupid or what. Mueller cleared Trump and here you are beating that dead horse once again.

You need new material What you have is old, faded and sucks. LOL

Nutcase, Mueller had nothing to do with Impeached Trump's phone call with Zelensky.

 

[Bobob]

You earn respect. And I don't respect people who put others on ignore.

Like how you put CNN on ignore?

You’re a troll. You deserve to be ignored.

I don't watch CNN but CNN is not a poster on this forum, it is a tabloid station. Then put me on ignore again. LOL.

So what is considered a credible news source and not "tabloid"?

Through my job I get daily news articles too from unbiased sources. Now they are finance/econ themed but still give a good gauge of today's stories.

I was a fox news watcher for a long time. Not the Hannitys and Oreillys and the other opinionists. I watched the anchors and Early morning Fox and Friends. However, they led me to believe that Biden was in his basement everyday, refused to meet with reporters, had minimal gatherings for rallies ..... they even told me that he said something along the lines of "the voters don't deserve to know what my plan is".....they told me he called one supporter a liar; threatened another supporter to prove his manhood....never a positive word about the guy.

And what happens? He beats a sitting President who got the most votes a sitting President ever got in history.

I turned to my wife and said "Fox news is as biased as the rest of them. No way a guy that doesn't campaign and actually insults his supporters could beat someone with tens of thousands of people at rallies"....and all we do for news now is the WSJ. In the morning? We watch HGTV. Fixer upper. Property Brothers. Love it or list it. Soft and fun.

There is no unbiased TV news organization anymore.

He beat the sitting President with the worst approval rating in modern history. It wasn’t a stretch.

Yet the same president garnered 75 mil votes. Says something...

Right but the challenger garnered 80 mil votes, says more.

It was actually 81 to 74. And change.

Yep...so we just ignore 74.2 mil? OK.

Are you feeling ignored? Tell me, how did Trump pay attention to Hillary Clinton voters? He do a lot of outreach to them?

Outreach by Trump? Never! He decided not to be the president of those who didn't vote for him and made that clear time and time again. He was not the president of ALL the people--only those who voted for him.

Curious.....I recall hearing Rachel Maddow say the same thing.

So tell me....exactly what policies did he push and or endorse that were only for those that voted for him?

And don't get on that "didn't want to fund states run by Democrats"....that is a normal approach where the federal government should not be responsible for bailing out states run by governors that overspend on groups of people like union pensions to be popular.

It is the people of that state who should decide what to do...such as voting otherwise next time.

So tell me....what policy did he endorse that was only for Trump voters?

What policies of Biden's will only apply to those that voted for him? None so your "argument" is ridiculous. AzogtheDefiler keeps harping on Trump voters being "ignored" because Biden won. Ignored how? They won't be "ignored" the way Trump ignored Hillary voters.

I would answer that question if I could. But he has refused to explain what his policy plans are so far....

And I never said his policies were for only HIS voters. I simply responded to the statement that Trump had policies ONLY for his voters.

And, as it the norm for you....you simply answered my question with a question..

"I know you are but what am I" seems to work well for your ego.

You are grasping. Biden has said that he will include AII Americans in his decision-making process. While in Congress he was a moderate and not a one-way street
like your grifter president is.

 

[Faun]

Wut?? Here's the resolution ... where does it state they're decertifying...?

Wisconsin Legislature: AR3: Resolution Text

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

Where does it say they are not?

LOL

You're claiming they are doing something they themselves are claiming they are doing.