Watch this... Hey libs, do you have any examples of successful socialist countries? List them.

[Rustic]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Socialism only suits progressive shit stains, it’s a living hell for the rest of us.

What is socialism?

Where is the line between socialism and free market capitalism?

Specifically?
.

Social justice and a good safety net for the unfortunate... See healthcare for all...

Healthcare is a Privilege not a right, forcing people into socialized medicine is evil...

 

[regent]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Socialism only suits progressive shit stains, it’s a living hell for the rest of us.

What is socialism?

Where is the line between socialism and free market capitalism?

Specifically?
.

Social justice and a good safety net for the unfortunate... See healthcare for all...

Healthcare is a Privilege not a right, forcing people into socialized medicine is evil...

So can people refuse to accept socialized medicine?

 

[Rustic]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Socialism only suits progressive shit stains, it’s a living hell for the rest of us.

What is socialism?

Where is the line between socialism and free market capitalism?

Specifically?
.

Social justice and a good safety net for the unfortunate... See healthcare for all...

Healthcare is a Privilege not a right, forcing people into socialized medicine is evil...

So can people refuse to accept socialized medicine?

Any form of socialized medicine should be an opt in only, For that matter any socialist entitlement program should be the same

 

[francoHFW]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Socialism only suits progressive shit stains, it’s a living hell for the rest of us.

What is socialism?

Where is the line between socialism and free market capitalism?

Specifically?
.

Social justice and a good safety net for the unfortunate... See healthcare for all...

Healthcare is a Privilege not a right, forcing people into socialized medicine is evil...

That was the GOP plan so no wonder it's a little crappy... Still better than the mess we have without it... Still the best thing that ever happened for poor workers since the 60s, and was the beginning of a solution to ridiculous costs of the GOP scam system we have without it... Obama never believed in the Mandate anyway that was added by the Congress...

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

 

[Rustic]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Socialism only suits progressive shit stains, it’s a living hell for the rest of us.

What is socialism?

Where is the line between socialism and free market capitalism?

Specifically?
.

Social justice and a good safety net for the unfortunate... See healthcare for all...

Healthcare is a Privilege not a right, forcing people into socialized medicine is evil...

That was the GOP plan so no wonder it's a little crappy... Still better than the mess we have without it... Still the best thing that ever happened for poor workers since the 60s, and was the beginning of a solution to ridiculous costs of the GOP scam system we have without it... Obama never believed in the Mandate anyway that was added by the Congress...

The mandate was absolutely unconstitutional

 

[Rustic]

Go live there then, I would rather die than live there

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism only suits progressive shit stains, it’s a living hell for the rest of us.

What is socialism?

Where is the line between socialism and free market capitalism?

Specifically?
.

Social justice and a good safety net for the unfortunate... See healthcare for all...

Healthcare is a Privilege not a right, forcing people into socialized medicine is evil...

That was the GOP plan so no wonder it's a little crappy... Still better than the mess we have without it... Still the best thing that ever happened for poor workers since the 60s, and was the beginning of a solution to ridiculous costs of the GOP scam system we have without it... Obama never believed in the Mandate anyway that was added by the Congress...

The mandate was absolutely unconstitutional

I'll go with the Supreme Court over dupes thank you...

 

[Theowl32]

Go ahead, we are interested in hearing these wonderful successes.

Please, list the countries.

Would you say the UK is successful? You did have this to say about them: Socialist medicine: Little British girl denied surgery due to 'budget cuts,' so I assume you consider Britain to be socialist.

Yeah, they are pretty white too. Not as white as Sweden or Norway, that is for sure.

Huh, I wonder why they are not as successful.

I am sure someone will get my point, at some point.

As it is, it seems there is something common among all of those successful "socialist countries."

Ain't I a stinker?

 

[End2party]

Well, I would think the bottom line for "success" would be the happiness of its citizens, so let's see what this survey says: Visit the Top 10 Happiest Countries in the World

1. Denmark
2. Switzerland
3. Iceland
4. Norway
5. Finland
6. Canada
7. The Netherlands
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

And since it appears that "socialism" is whatever government spending exceeds military, I guess those would qualify as "socialist".

So I guess we need to specify definitions.
.

Happiness can't be measured, so your list is bullshit.

You ask people if they are happy. The country that has the highest percentage of people saying yes, that is the happiest country.

 

[Kondor3]

Socialism (collective action and sustenance) is good for some things.

Socialism really sucks for some other things.

Socialism's biggest obstacle is that wee bothersome phrase: "Consent of the governed" .

Q. Why is the "consent of the governed" bothersome?

A. Because the word Socialism has been used for decades as a pejorative, used by ideologues to equate any form of it to the "evil empire" and banana republics, and for the people who fail to understand that we have for centuries been a mixed economy, i.e. having a private sector and a public sector in providing services. The former a for-profit enterprise, and the latter a non profit accountable to the voter

That's a very pretty explanation.

Trouble is, it does not address the 'consent of the governed' issue in its intended context; namely, being governed in a given manner with the consent of The People.

I seriously doubt that - once unmasked - Joe Stalin or Mao or any of their satellites and laptops, like the North Koreans or Khmer Rouge, ruled with the consent of the governed.

Socialism has one of two ways of maintaining power.

1. Blood

2. Entitlements

So far, only (2) has been tried here, on a limited basis.

Eagerly sought and perpetuated by both the perpetually needy and the perpetually lazy.

With the Dems, it's "hook 'em early, hook 'em hard, make 'em dependent, and make 'em vote"

Akin to what the Corporate Whore Pubs do with their Big Business campaign funders.

 

[bgrouse]

Socialism (collective action and sustenance) is good for some things.

Socialism really sucks for some other things.

Socialism's biggest obstacle is that wee bothersome phrase: "Consent of the governed" .

Q. Why is the "consent of the governed" bothersome?

A. Because the word Socialism has been used for decades as a pejorative, used by ideologues to equate any form of it to the "evil empire" and banana republics, and for the people who fail to understand that we have for centuries been a mixed economy, i.e. having a private sector and a public sector in providing services. The former a for-profit enterprise, and the latter a non profit accountable to the voter

That's a very pretty explanation.

Trouble is, it does not address the 'consent of the governed' issue in its intended context; namely, being governed in a given manner with the consent of The People.

I seriously doubt that - once unmasked - Joe Stalin or Mao or any of their satellites and laptops, like the North Koreans or Khmer Rouge, ruled with the consent of the governed.

Socialism has one of two ways of maintaining power.

1. Blood

Any government maintains power ultimately through taking life or the threat of it.

2. Entitlements

So far, only (2) has been tried here, on a limited basis.

Eagerly sought and perpetuated by both the perpetually needy and the perpetually lazy.

With the Dems, it's "hook 'em early, hook 'em hard, make 'em dependent, and make 'em vote"

Akin to what the Corporate Whore Pubs do with their Big Business campaign funders.

The ones often severely "hooked" on government support are the rich. Who enforces the value behind their money? Who protects their title to property? It's the government.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism (collective action and sustenance) is good for some things.

Socialism really sucks for some other things.

Socialism's biggest obstacle is that wee bothersome phrase: "Consent of the governed" .

Q. Why is the "consent of the governed" bothersome?

A. Because the word Socialism has been used for decades as a pejorative, used by ideologues to equate any form of it to the "evil empire" and banana republics, and for the people who fail to understand that we have for centuries been a mixed economy, i.e. having a private sector and a public sector in providing services. The former a for-profit enterprise, and the latter a non profit accountable to the voter

That's a very pretty explanation.

Trouble is, it does not address the 'consent of the governed' issue in its intended context; namely, being governed in a given manner with the consent of The People.

I seriously doubt that - once unmasked - Joe Stalin or Mao or any of their satellites and laptops, like the North Koreans or Khmer Rouge, ruled with the consent of the governed.

Socialism has one of two ways of maintaining power.

1. Blood

2. Entitlements

So far, only (2) has been tried here, on a limited basis.

Eagerly sought and perpetuated by both the perpetually needy and the perpetually lazy.

With the Dems, it's "hook 'em early, hook 'em hard, make 'em dependent, and make 'em vote"

Akin to what the Corporate Whore Pubs do with their Big Business campaign funders.

For the billionth time, socialism is always democratic... If it's not Democratic, it's communist.

 

[bgrouse]

Go live there then, I would rather die than live there

"Go live there?" Did I miss the post where they sent him an invitation?

 

[cnm]

I already said, I do wish to go back in time to a period when we had less LOOTING, and more ECONOMIC GROWTH.

Driven by child labour. Your idea of paradise.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Someone needs to refund this fool his college tuition. He doesn't know what socialism is nor who is socialist.

Can you name a nation that is socialist, as you define the term?

Sure.

China.

Have a nice day.

Okay. You finally answered a question put to you. Congrats!

Let's see if you can do it again.

Do you believe the government of China is something to admire and emulate?

obama did

he once said aloud

"Why can't we be more like China...Why? "

 

[cnm]

I am sure someone will get my point, at some point.

Yes, the dog whistle is deafening.

 

[cnm]

2. Anglosphere countries with the traditions of Western Civilization, and which have not been overrun, yet, with massive illegal immigration. Canada and Australia are self-immolating themselves on the multi-cultural petard, so their happiness levels are at risk of declining.

Care to cite the 'massive illegal immigration' occurring in those two countries?

I said they haven't yet been taken over by massive illegal immigration. Try improving your reading comprehension.

As to your pathetic dog whistle comment, I see that facts about history scare you.

Your dog whistle is quite apparent. You can't have nice things in the US because, blacks and browns, non homogenity. NZ on that list has a smaller proportion of 'white' than the US.

 

[boedicca]

2. Anglosphere countries with the traditions of Western Civilization, and which have not been overrun, yet, with massive illegal immigration. Canada and Australia are self-immolating themselves on the multi-cultural petard, so their happiness levels are at risk of declining.

Care to cite the 'massive illegal immigration' occurring in those two countries?

I said they haven't yet been taken over by massive illegal immigration. Try improving your reading comprehension.

As to your pathetic dog whistle comment, I see that facts about history scare you.

Your dog whistle is quite apparent. You can't have nice things in the US because, blacks and browns, non homogenity. NZ on that list has a smaller proportion of 'white' than the US.

Your dog whistle is up your anal orifice.

 

[francoHFW]

Someone needs to refund this fool his college tuition. He doesn't know what socialism is nor who is socialist.

Can you name a nation that is socialist, as you define the term?

Sure.

China.

Have a nice day.

Okay. You finally answered a question put to you. Congrats!

Let's see if you can do it again.

Do you believe the government of China is something to admire and emulate?

obama did

he once said aloud

"Why can't we be more like China...Why? "

He meant investing in infrastructure and education.