Zone1 *Water Into Wine*

[hobelim]

Nah. I don’t think that’s true.

From my experience anyone who would teach teaching that you know that Jesus would not agree with are either sanctimonious assholes, (a perpetrator of) or a victim of mind control.

But whatever their religious basis for the objection to drinking alcohol might be, I’m not sure Jesús would agree.

Right so how could any intelligent person read about Jesus being denounced as a drunk and then act like drinking is a sin, especially since they profess to believe that Jesus was sinless?

What rational mind could maintain such an irrational belief unless they are completely dishonest, a deceiver, or they had been brainwashed?

 

[hobelim]

Let love be sincere; hate what is evil

Awesome quote!

Did you know that the degrading practice of worshipping the lifeless "work of human hands", a matzo, and turning to it for spiritual life is a sin, a violation of Divine law under penalty of death, and did you know that teaching others to do the same amounts to intentional murder?

Evil. Apparently you love what God hates.

Now you know.

 

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Awesome quote!

Did you know that the degrading practice of worshipping the lifeless "work of human hands", a matzo, and turning to it for spiritual life is a sin, a violation of Divine law under penalty of death, and did you know that teaching others to do the same amounts to intentional murder?

Evil. Apparently you love what God hates.

Now you know.

What you intend for evil, God is using for good.

 

[hobelim]

Religious or not, the practical effect of such a philosophy seems likely to be better for a society than anything else.

Its absolutely better for the elite... to have legions of dedicated zombies at their disposal.

It makes for a smooth and easy life in society..... for a few.

 

[hobelim]

What you intend for evil, God is using for good.

Well thats just it. Before the law came into the world there was no such thing as good or evil. God in his inscrutable wisdom codified the difference between good and evil as instruction to enlighten human beings lost in the violent chaos of a world without shape or form and void.

Those judgments and the reasoning behind those judgments have been revealed by God from the beginning and I am in agreement with them, the reasoning and the judgments. . Any human who would teach others to seek spiritual life from the lifeless work of human hands is a despicable low life. Crippling the potential of the human mind is as pure evil as is intentional premeditated murder of an innocent, and the penalty, existence without life is harsh but just.

Thats what you are mixed up in. Thats what happened to you. You died and descended into the netherworld decades ago where satan reigns and there is no other lord or master in hell.

You call good evil and you call evil good and thats what you perpetuate.

Evil.

 

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Well thats just it. Before the law came into the world there was no such thing as good or evil. God in his inscrutable wisdom codified the difference between good and evil as instruction to enlighten human beings lost in the violent chaos of a world without shape or form and void.

Those judgments and the reasoning behind those judgments have been revealed by God from the beginning and I am in agreement with them, the reasoning and the judgments. . Any human who would teach others to seek spiritual life from the lifeless work of human hands is a despicable low life. Crippling the potential of the human mind is as pure evil as is intentional premeditated murder of an innocent.

Thats what you are mixed up in. Thats what happened to you. You died and descended into the netherworld decades ago where satan reigns and there is no other lord or master in hell.

You call good evil and you call evil good and thats what you perpetuate.

Evil.

Let love be sincere; hate what is evil, hold on to what is good; love one another with mutual affection; anticipate one another in showing honor. Do not grow slack in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord. Rejoice in hope, endure in affliction, persevere in prayer. Contribute to the needs of the holy ones, exercise hospitality. Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Have the same regard for one another; do not be haughty but associate with the lowly; do not be wise in your own estimation. Do not repay anyone evil for evil; be concerned for what is noble in the sight of all. If possible, on your part, live at peace with all. Beloved, do not look for revenge but leave room for the wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” Rather, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.” Do not be conquered by evil but conquer evil with good.

 

[hobelim]

Let love be sincere; hate what is evil, hold on to what is good; love one another with mutual affection; anticipate one another in showing honor. Do not grow slack in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord. Rejoice in hope, endure in affliction, persevere in prayer. Contribute to the needs of the holy ones, exercise hospitality. Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Have the same regard for one another; do not be haughty but associate with the lowly; do not be wise in your own estimation. Do not repay anyone evil for evil; be concerned for what is noble in the sight of all. If possible, on your part, live at peace with all. Beloved, do not look for revenge but leave room for the wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” Rather, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.” Do not be conquered by evil but conquer evil with good.

“Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty,......

 

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“Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty,......

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports...In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens...”

“…And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion...reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

George Washington, Farewell Address, Sept 17, 1796,
The Will of the People: Readings in American Democracy (Chicago: Great Books Foundation, 2001), 38.

 

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From my experience anyone who would teach teaching that you know that Jesus would not agree with are either sanctimonious assholes, (a perpetrator of) or a victim of mind control.



Right so how could any intelligent person read about Jesus being denounced as a drunk and then act like drinking is a sin, especially since they profess to believe that Jesus was sinless?

What rational mind could maintain such an irrational belief unless they are completely dishonest, a deceiver, or they had been brainwashed?

Maybe someday for a refreshing change of pace you could post coherently and intelligibly.

 

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Its absolutely better for the elite... to have legions of dedicated zombies at their disposal.

It makes for a smooth and easy life in society..... for a few.

Once again, hobgoblin ^ seems to believe that he is communicating. He isn’t.

 

[hobelim]

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports...In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens...”

“…And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion...reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

George Washington, Farewell Address, Sept 17, 1796,
The Will of the People: Readings in American Democracy (Chicago: Great Books Foundation, 2001), 38.

"There's an ugly little wasel 'bout three-foot nine
Face puffed up from cryin' 'n lyin'
'Cause her sweet little hubby's
Suckin' prong part time
(In the name of The Lord)
Get a clue, little shrew
Oh yeah, oh yeah
Jesus thinks you're a jerk"

Zappa

 

[hobelim]

Once again, hobgoblin ^ seems to believe that he is communicating. He isn’t.

hobgoblin?, , is that the best you can do? Really? your facade is crumbling sweetheart.

"Where the vultures gather, there lies the corpse."

 

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"There's an ugly little wasel 'bout three-foot nine
Face puffed up from cryin' 'n lyin'
'Cause her sweet little hubby's
Suckin' prong part time
(In the name of The Lord)
Get a clue, little shrew
Oh yeah, oh yeah
Jesus thinks you're a jerk"

Zappa

Let love be sincere; hate what is evil, hold on to what is good; love one another with mutual affection; anticipate one another in showing honor. Do not grow slack in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord. Rejoice in hope, endure in affliction, persevere in prayer. Contribute to the needs of the holy ones, exercise hospitality. Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Have the same regard for one another; do not be haughty but associate with the lowly; do not be wise in your own estimation. Do not repay anyone evil for evil; be concerned for what is noble in the sight of all. If possible, on your part, live at peace with all. Beloved, do not look for revenge but leave room for the wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” Rather, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.” Do not be conquered by evil but conquer evil with good.

St. Paul

 

[hobelim]

Let love be sincere; hate what is evil, hold on to what is good; love one another with mutual affection; anticipate one another in showing honor. Do not grow slack in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord. Rejoice in hope, endure in affliction, persevere in prayer. Contribute to the needs of the holy ones, exercise hospitality. Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Have the same regard for one another; do not be haughty but associate with the lowly; do not be wise in your own estimation. Do not repay anyone evil for evil; be concerned for what is noble in the sight of all. If possible, on your part, live at peace with all. Beloved, do not look for revenge but leave room for the wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” Rather, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.” Do not be conquered by evil but conquer evil with good.

St. Paul

"The law is obsolete." Paul

"As long as heaven and earth endure the law will remain in effect and in full force". Jesus

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

Paul wrote this when Nero was caesar when authorities were established and maintained by cruelty and violence, not God. Do you really believe thats who God wanted in charge? stupid.

Paul was a rabid, guilt ridden, self loathing, masochistic, homophobic, misogynistic, Christian murderer who contradicted the teaching of Jesus on everything from forgiveness to Mosaic Law by infiltrating the early christian movement by pretending to be blind and cured in a vision. The disciples probably found it hard to not burst out laughing at his poor acting skills.

What a joker.

 

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hobgoblin?, , is that the best you can do? Really? your facade is crumbling sweetheart.

"Where the vultures gather, there lies the corpse."

Zzz.

As Hawkeye once said of Frank Burns, “you’re even boring in technicolor.”

 

[hobelim]

Zzz.

As Hawkeye once said of Frank Burns, “you’re even boring in technicolor.”

Yawn. lol...

As John Wayne once said, "Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid." stupid.

 

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"The law is obsolete." Paul

"As long as heaven and earth endure the law will remain in effect and in full force". Jesus

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

Paul wrote this when Nero was caesar when authorities were established and maintained by cruelty and violence, not God. Do you really believe thats who God wanted in charge? stupid.

Paul was a rabid, guilt ridden, self loathing, masochistic, homophobic, misogynistic, Christian murderer who contradicted the teaching of Jesus on everything from forgiveness to Mosaic Law by infiltrating the early christian movement by pretending to be blind and cured in a vision. The disciples probably found it hard to not burst out laughing at his poor acting skills.

What a joker.

What you intend for evil, God is using for good.

 

[BackAgain]

Yawn. lol...

As John Wayne once said, "Life is hard; it's even harder when you're stupid." stupid.

You have plenty of first hand experience.

Zzz

 

[hobelim]

What you intend for evil, God is using for good.

Really? Awesome! You call good evil and evil good so just let God do his thing then.

"The law is obsolete." Paul

"As long as heaven and earth endure the law will remain in effect and in full force". Jesus

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." Paul.

Paul wrote this when Nero was caesar when civil authorities were established and maintained by cruelty and violence, fascism, not God.

Paul was a guilt ridden, self loathing, masochistic, homophobic, misogynistic rabid Christian murderer who contradicted the teaching of Jesus on everything from forgiveness to Mosaic Law by infiltrating the early christian movement by pretending to be blind and cured in a vision. The disciples probably found it hard to not burst out laughing at his poor acting skills.

What a joker.

 

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Really? Awesome! You call good evil and evil good so just let God do his thing then.

"The law is obsolete." Paul

"As long as heaven and earth endure the law will remain in effect and in full force". Jesus

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God." Paul.

Paul wrote this when Nero was caesar when civil authorities were established and maintained by cruelty and violence, fascism, not God.

Paul was a guilt ridden, self loathing, masochistic, homophobic, misogynistic rabid Christian murderer who contradicted the teaching of Jesus on everything from forgiveness to Mosaic Law by infiltrating the early christian movement by pretending to be blind and cured in a vision. The disciples probably found it hard to not burst out laughing at his poor acting skills.

What a joker.

Let love be sincere; hate what is evil, hold on to what is good; love one another with mutual affection; anticipate one another in showing honor. Do not grow slack in zeal, be fervent in spirit, serve the Lord. Rejoice in hope, endure in affliction, persevere in prayer. Contribute to the needs of the holy ones, exercise hospitality. Bless those who persecute you, bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Have the same regard for one another; do not be haughty but associate with the lowly; do not be wise in your own estimation. Do not repay anyone evil for evil; be concerned for what is noble in the sight of all. If possible, on your part, live at peace with all. Beloved, do not look for revenge but leave room for the wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” Rather, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals upon his head.” Do not be conquered by evil but conquer evil with good.

St. Paul