We got exactly the kind of President we deserve

[theHawk]

Just minutes ago Jeffery Toobin of CNN fame said something very interesting. Obviously I am forced to paraphrase here, so be kind and I will try to be as accurate as I can be.

News commentators on CNN were discussing the many times Trump has lied or misled the American people. Toobin asked why should Trump change? He got elected acting the way he does.

I paused the television and thought about that. Toobin was right.

By November 8, 2016, voters knew Trump was a prolific liar. He even bragged about it in his biography, The Art of the Deal. He called it truthful hyperbole. Here is what he said about the euphemism for outright lying.

“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

Voters could see truthful hyperbole in play in nearly every speech, statement, and tweet Trump made during the Presidential campaign of 2016.

In addition to being a prolific liar, we knew from the Access Hollywood tapes that Trump was a sexual predator while married to the current First Lady. Voters heard Trump tell us in his own words about his sexual prowess with women. It was enough to make a Marine blush.

Voters also heard Trump ask for help from the Russian government. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

American voters were informed in October of 2016 that Russia was interfering in our Presidential election, and that WikiLeaks was acting as a conduit for the product of Russian hacking. American voters heard Trump praise WikiLeaks for the great job they were doing.

• October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
• October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."

And so on, Trump repeated his unremitting praise of WikiLeaks during the remainder of the Presidential campaign.

In addition, Trump did nothing to hide his true character, a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. In fact, he made a point of everyone knowing that he was a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. He was proud of his overbearing characteristics. He was the ultimate alpha male.

Sixty-three million Americans thought Trump was a good choice for the President of the United States. Ninety million Americans stayed home on Election Day, and another ten million threw their vote away on a candidate who had no chance of winning, thinking they were protesting. No one listened to their protests as sixty-three million Americans cheered mightily as Trump won the election and became our President.

Toobin was right. Those sixty-three million Americans knew what they were getting, and to this day they are proud of their choice. Trump was exactly the kind of man they wanted as President. After all, they say so on this venue every day.

We got exactly the kind of President we deserve.

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The Access Hollywood tape was enough to make a Marine blush?

Apparently you don’t know many Marines. All he did was make jokes about gold digging whores.

...like his 2nd & 3rd wives...

All women are gold diggers to some degree. It’s in their nature.

 

[playtime]

Just minutes ago Jeffery Toobin of CNN fame said something very interesting. Obviously I am forced to paraphrase here, so be kind and I will try to be as accurate as I can be.

News commentators on CNN were discussing the many times Trump has lied or misled the American people. Toobin asked why should Trump change? He got elected acting the way he does.

I paused the television and thought about that. Toobin was right.

By November 8, 2016, voters knew Trump was a prolific liar. He even bragged about it in his biography, The Art of the Deal. He called it truthful hyperbole. Here is what he said about the euphemism for outright lying.

“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

Voters could see truthful hyperbole in play in nearly every speech, statement, and tweet Trump made during the Presidential campaign of 2016.

In addition to being a prolific liar, we knew from the Access Hollywood tapes that Trump was a sexual predator while married to the current First Lady. Voters heard Trump tell us in his own words about his sexual prowess with women. It was enough to make a Marine blush.

Voters also heard Trump ask for help from the Russian government. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

American voters were informed in October of 2016 that Russia was interfering in our Presidential election, and that WikiLeaks was acting as a conduit for the product of Russian hacking. American voters heard Trump praise WikiLeaks for the great job they were doing.

• October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
• October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."

And so on, Trump repeated his unremitting praise of WikiLeaks during the remainder of the Presidential campaign.

In addition, Trump did nothing to hide his true character, a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. In fact, he made a point of everyone knowing that he was a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. He was proud of his overbearing characteristics. He was the ultimate alpha male.

Sixty-three million Americans thought Trump was a good choice for the President of the United States. Ninety million Americans stayed home on Election Day, and another ten million threw their vote away on a candidate who had no chance of winning, thinking they were protesting. No one listened to their protests as sixty-three million Americans cheered mightily as Trump won the election and became our President.

Toobin was right. Those sixty-three million Americans knew what they were getting, and to this day they are proud of their choice. Trump was exactly the kind of man they wanted as President. After all, they say so on this venue every day.

We got exactly the kind of President we deserve.

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The Access Hollywood tape was enough to make a Marine blush?

Apparently you don’t know many Marines. All he did was make jokes about gold digging whores.

...like his 2nd & 3rd wives...

All women are gold diggers to some degree. It’s in their nature.

^^^ says the incel ^^^

 

[candycorn]

Just minutes ago Jeffery Toobin of CNN fame said something very interesting. Obviously I am forced to paraphrase here, so be kind and I will try to be as accurate as I can be.

News commentators on CNN were discussing the many times Trump has lied or misled the American people. Toobin asked why should Trump change? He got elected acting the way he does.

I paused the television and thought about that. Toobin was right.

By November 8, 2016, voters knew Trump was a prolific liar. He even bragged about it in his biography, The Art of the Deal. He called it truthful hyperbole. Here is what he said about the euphemism for outright lying.

“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

Voters could see truthful hyperbole in play in nearly every speech, statement, and tweet Trump made during the Presidential campaign of 2016.

In addition to being a prolific liar, we knew from the Access Hollywood tapes that Trump was a sexual predator while married to the current First Lady. Voters heard Trump tell us in his own words about his sexual prowess with women. It was enough to make a Marine blush.

Voters also heard Trump ask for help from the Russian government. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

American voters were informed in October of 2016 that Russia was interfering in our Presidential election, and that WikiLeaks was acting as a conduit for the product of Russian hacking. American voters heard Trump praise WikiLeaks for the great job they were doing.

• October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
• October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."

And so on, Trump repeated his unremitting praise of WikiLeaks during the remainder of the Presidential campaign.

In addition, Trump did nothing to hide his true character, a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. In fact, he made a point of everyone knowing that he was a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. He was proud of his overbearing characteristics. He was the ultimate alpha male.

Sixty-three million Americans thought Trump was a good choice for the President of the United States. Ninety million Americans stayed home on Election Day, and another ten million threw their vote away on a candidate who had no chance of winning, thinking they were protesting. No one listened to their protests as sixty-three million Americans cheered mightily as Trump won the election and became our President.

Toobin was right. Those sixty-three million Americans knew what they were getting, and to this day they are proud of their choice. Trump was exactly the kind of man they wanted as President. After all, they say so on this venue every day.

We got exactly the kind of President we deserve.

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Democrats nominated Clinton, Republicans nominated Trump, two terrible nominees. Two terrible choices, people voting for the lesser of two evils.

I blame both party’s for this mess. The two party system is broken.

I agree completely, and this needs to be repeated.
Both parties were so bad that people voted for Trump as punishment I think.
If things do not improve, they will find someone even worse than Trump to elect.

The tribes are in control now, the loons.

This is the predictable result.
.

I disagree, with respect.

(I have time to kill...so....)

The reason Trump won is two-fold.

1) 'White', largely male, middle/old aged, lower-middle income and lower to middle education were desperate. There are several reasons for this.

One, they see their power eroding. When they were young, they 'owned America'...especially the men. Now, they see women (finally and rightly) gaining full equality and 'white' people are becoming the minority.
Two, they have seen their incomes/career prospects/buying power erode. Why? Because America is becoming a country of servicing and not of manufacturing. And how is the government dealing with this? INCREDIBLY selfishly. They have abandoned macroeconomic fundamentals and embraced cheap money and central bank stimuli...and both parties higher-ups are loving it (though they are not saying so). And it is happening in almost every, major economy in the world. Coincidence? No chance.
The wealthy have found an easy way to get FAR wealthier - get the Fed to prop up the equity markets which drags everything else 'wealthy' along for the ride.
Unfortunately, since the middle/lower classes have minimal access to this cheap debt - they are falling behind...BIG TIME. Sure, they can get a nibble of the debt tree - but they cannot do anything with it but try and maintain a standard of living they cannot maintain indefinitely. Meanwhile, the wealthy are getting FAR wealthier. And the wealth gap is growing.
Bottom line. The American dream is dying for the 'little' guy/gal. Working hard is not enough - in fact, it's almost pointless. You MUST have access to lots of cheap credit and then invest it wisely. Because since 2001 to some extent and since 2008 to a large extent - macroeconomic fundamentals have gone on vacation.
And virtually no Americans seem to realize it (other than a fed who understand business). And those that know it are keeping their mouth shut so that the ignorant masses cannot figure it out....so the former can keep getting richer.

So why does all this lead to the above described people voting for Trump?

Because they feel betrayed by their politicians. It is them who let this situation occur. So they want a POTUS who will fix it and who will talk their language...who talks like they do. No slick talk...just down and dirty. And they want that POTUS to promise to make America once 'again' like it was back in the 1950's-70's...when it was 'great'.

And Trump offered all of this. An INCREDIBLY plain spoken, simplistic guy who told them EXACTLY what they wanted to hear. The fact that he is rich means he MUST know what he is talking about (as far as they are concerned). He is flawed - like them. He is xenophobic/fearful of losing 'white' power in America - like many of them. He is chauvinistic - like many of them (even some of the women). He IS them...with nicer suits and his Daddy's money.
And he has given them lots of people to blame - the 'swamp', illegals, foreign countries, etc.


And how has the left reacted to this macroeconomic mess that the Fed/Washington elites have created?

They want big government. They want the government to fix everything. To make everything a socialistic utopia where the government takes care of them from cradle to grave.
And that was - in 2016 - just what Bernie Sanders was promising.
And now, they have FULL ON embraced it.
And Sanders (and now Ocasio-Cortez and others) have given the Left lots of people to blame - big business, free enterprise and corrupt government that refuses to spend enough on social programs.

The Right wants to go back in time and the Left wants the government to make everything better. And - with respect - it is not because they are 'loons'. It is because they are fed up (pardon the pun), desperate and have lost faith in traditional American politics (as well they should). 99% of them have NO IDEA what is really going on (that the Fed/elites are the cause) - they just know things are getting worse for them...slowly.
So they are falling back on their core beliefs...and America is getting politically fractured in the process.

I have no idea what will happen - other then eventually the 'cheap debt' house of cards has to collapse. But that could take decades - just ask the Japanese.

But I do know it is not because Americans have suddenly gotten 'looney'. It's because they have been horribly let down (though hardly any of them know exactly why/how) and they are getting VERY desperate.


Good day.

Disagree with parts of that.

I think you're giving the American voter (especially the Trump supporters) too much credit for weighting the pluses and minuses of the candidates rationally and arriving at a decision.

How would you account for HRC getting 3,000,000 more votes than Trump in that case? He won 3 states that swung the election by about 100,000 in total. It's still a victory but if what you're describing is true, the margin would have been much more pronounced.

Where you're right is that Trump validated the fear and said he'd fix it. Clearly the fear is still there even greater than it was before.

 

[theHawk]

Just minutes ago Jeffery Toobin of CNN fame said something very interesting. Obviously I am forced to paraphrase here, so be kind and I will try to be as accurate as I can be.

News commentators on CNN were discussing the many times Trump has lied or misled the American people. Toobin asked why should Trump change? He got elected acting the way he does.

I paused the television and thought about that. Toobin was right.

By November 8, 2016, voters knew Trump was a prolific liar. He even bragged about it in his biography, The Art of the Deal. He called it truthful hyperbole. Here is what he said about the euphemism for outright lying.

“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

Voters could see truthful hyperbole in play in nearly every speech, statement, and tweet Trump made during the Presidential campaign of 2016.

In addition to being a prolific liar, we knew from the Access Hollywood tapes that Trump was a sexual predator while married to the current First Lady. Voters heard Trump tell us in his own words about his sexual prowess with women. It was enough to make a Marine blush.

Voters also heard Trump ask for help from the Russian government. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

American voters were informed in October of 2016 that Russia was interfering in our Presidential election, and that WikiLeaks was acting as a conduit for the product of Russian hacking. American voters heard Trump praise WikiLeaks for the great job they were doing.

• October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
• October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."

And so on, Trump repeated his unremitting praise of WikiLeaks during the remainder of the Presidential campaign.

In addition, Trump did nothing to hide his true character, a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. In fact, he made a point of everyone knowing that he was a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. He was proud of his overbearing characteristics. He was the ultimate alpha male.

Sixty-three million Americans thought Trump was a good choice for the President of the United States. Ninety million Americans stayed home on Election Day, and another ten million threw their vote away on a candidate who had no chance of winning, thinking they were protesting. No one listened to their protests as sixty-three million Americans cheered mightily as Trump won the election and became our President.

Toobin was right. Those sixty-three million Americans knew what they were getting, and to this day they are proud of their choice. Trump was exactly the kind of man they wanted as President. After all, they say so on this venue every day.

We got exactly the kind of President we deserve.

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The Access Hollywood tape was enough to make a Marine blush?

Apparently you don’t know many Marines. All he did was make jokes about gold digging whores.

...like his 2nd & 3rd wives...

All women are gold diggers to some degree. It’s in their nature.

^^^ says the incel ^^^

That’s a good description of you:

 

[playtime]

Just minutes ago Jeffery Toobin of CNN fame said something very interesting. Obviously I am forced to paraphrase here, so be kind and I will try to be as accurate as I can be.

News commentators on CNN were discussing the many times Trump has lied or misled the American people. Toobin asked why should Trump change? He got elected acting the way he does.

I paused the television and thought about that. Toobin was right.

By November 8, 2016, voters knew Trump was a prolific liar. He even bragged about it in his biography, The Art of the Deal. He called it truthful hyperbole. Here is what he said about the euphemism for outright lying.

“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

Voters could see truthful hyperbole in play in nearly every speech, statement, and tweet Trump made during the Presidential campaign of 2016.

In addition to being a prolific liar, we knew from the Access Hollywood tapes that Trump was a sexual predator while married to the current First Lady. Voters heard Trump tell us in his own words about his sexual prowess with women. It was enough to make a Marine blush.

Voters also heard Trump ask for help from the Russian government. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

American voters were informed in October of 2016 that Russia was interfering in our Presidential election, and that WikiLeaks was acting as a conduit for the product of Russian hacking. American voters heard Trump praise WikiLeaks for the great job they were doing.

• October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
• October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."

And so on, Trump repeated his unremitting praise of WikiLeaks during the remainder of the Presidential campaign.

In addition, Trump did nothing to hide his true character, a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. In fact, he made a point of everyone knowing that he was a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. He was proud of his overbearing characteristics. He was the ultimate alpha male.

Sixty-three million Americans thought Trump was a good choice for the President of the United States. Ninety million Americans stayed home on Election Day, and another ten million threw their vote away on a candidate who had no chance of winning, thinking they were protesting. No one listened to their protests as sixty-three million Americans cheered mightily as Trump won the election and became our President.

Toobin was right. Those sixty-three million Americans knew what they were getting, and to this day they are proud of their choice. Trump was exactly the kind of man they wanted as President. After all, they say so on this venue every day.

We got exactly the kind of President we deserve.

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The Access Hollywood tape was enough to make a Marine blush?

Apparently you don’t know many Marines. All he did was make jokes about gold digging whores.

...like his 2nd & 3rd wives...

All women are gold diggers to some degree. It’s in their nature.

^^^ says the incel ^^^

That’s a good description of you:

that's the best you can do?

 

[Darkwind]

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

And who could blame them.

every patriotic american.

Now that is funny as hell. Not only is Hillary one of the worst human beings on the planet, but the left are also devout America haters.

I didn't vote for Trump, but a vote for Hillary was anything BUT patriotic.

 

[playtime]

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

And who could blame them.

every patriotic american.

Now that is funny as hell. Not only is Hillary one of the worst human beings on the planet, but the left are also devout America haters.

I didn't vote for Trump, but a vote for Hillary was anything BUT patriotic.

i have never been a fan of hillary, but i did vote for her... why?

she's not a russian asset.

 

[Darkwind]

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

And who could blame them.

every patriotic american.

Now that is funny as hell. Not only is Hillary one of the worst human beings on the planet, but the left are also devout America haters.

I didn't vote for Trump, but a vote for Hillary was anything BUT patriotic.

i have never been a fan of hillary & i did vote for her... why?

she's not a russian asset.

She is more of a Russian asset than the made charges against Trump. There is actual evidence to that, as opposed to the insinuation that is being used by the left to convict Trump.

Trump has many flaws, as does every human, but there is little doubt that he has been a better President than Hillary would have been

Now if someone could get the bastard to balance a budget.

 

[playtime]

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

And who could blame them.

every patriotic american.

Now that is funny as hell. Not only is Hillary one of the worst human beings on the planet, but the left are also devout America haters.

I didn't vote for Trump, but a vote for Hillary was anything BUT patriotic.

i have never been a fan of hillary & i did vote for her... why?

she's not a russian asset.

She is more of a Russian asset than the made charges against Trump. There is actual evidence to that, as opposed to the insinuation that is being used by the left to convict Trump.

Trump has many flaws, as does every human, but there is little doubt that he has been a better President than Hillary would have been

Now if someone could get the bastard to balance a budget.

trump got the whitehouse... (R)s had the majority in both houses of congress for 2 years. they had 2 years to investigate the hell outa hillary & russia... again.... just like what they did with benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..... ( that proved to be a waste ) yet they didn't take the chance to nail her against the wall. why not? cause it's not hillary who's putin's bitch, & they know it.

 

[Darkwind]

And who could blame them.

every patriotic american.

Now that is funny as hell. Not only is Hillary one of the worst human beings on the planet, but the left are also devout America haters.

I didn't vote for Trump, but a vote for Hillary was anything BUT patriotic.

i have never been a fan of hillary & i did vote for her... why?

she's not a russian asset.

She is more of a Russian asset than the made charges against Trump. There is actual evidence to that, as opposed to the insinuation that is being used by the left to convict Trump.

Trump has many flaws, as does every human, but there is little doubt that he has been a better President than Hillary would have been

Now if someone could get the bastard to balance a budget.

trump got the whitehouse... (R)s had the majority in both houses of congress for 2 years. they had 2 years to investigate the hell outa hillary & russia... again.... just like what they did with benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..... ( that proved to be a waste ) yet they didn't take the chance to nail her against the wall. why not? cause it's not hillary who's putin's bitch, & they know it.

In fact, it is Hillary that is Putin's bitch. A failure of the Congress, a body that is poorly suited for investigations, is not an aquittal. If the DOJ wasn't so stuffed with Obama leftovers, and Trump had picked a proper AG, that may have been different.

Although I can guarantee that if Trump had started prosecutions against Clinton, you clowns would have been screaming something about putting political candidates in prison as losers. Something I have little doubt that the left will begin doing as soon as they win a national election.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

And who could blame them.

every patriotic american.

Now that is funny as hell. Not only is Hillary one of the worst human beings on the planet, but the left are also devout America haters.

I didn't vote for Trump, but a vote for Hillary was anything BUT patriotic.

i have never been a fan of hillary, but i did vote for her... why?

she's not a russian asset.

The woman who is partly responsible for selling Russia our uranium is not a Russian asset?
The women who indirectly paid Russia for phony information about Trump is not a Russian asset?
Trump made a joke about Russia. Oh! He must be a Russian asset.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just minutes ago Jeffery Toobin of CNN fame said something very interesting. Obviously I am forced to paraphrase here, so be kind and I will try to be as accurate as I can be.

News commentators on CNN were discussing the many times Trump has lied or misled the American people. Toobin asked why should Trump change? He got elected acting the way he does.

I paused the television and thought about that. Toobin was right.

By November 8, 2016, voters knew Trump was a prolific liar. He even bragged about it in his biography, The Art of the Deal. He called it truthful hyperbole. Here is what he said about the euphemism for outright lying.

“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

Voters could see truthful hyperbole in play in nearly every speech, statement, and tweet Trump made during the Presidential campaign of 2016.

In addition to being a prolific liar, we knew from the Access Hollywood tapes that Trump was a sexual predator while married to the current First Lady. Voters heard Trump tell us in his own words about his sexual prowess with women. It was enough to make a Marine blush.

Voters also heard Trump ask for help from the Russian government. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

American voters were informed in October of 2016 that Russia was interfering in our Presidential election, and that WikiLeaks was acting as a conduit for the product of Russian hacking. American voters heard Trump praise WikiLeaks for the great job they were doing.

• October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
• October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."

And so on, Trump repeated his unremitting praise of WikiLeaks during the remainder of the Presidential campaign.

In addition, Trump did nothing to hide his true character, a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. In fact, he made a point of everyone knowing that he was a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. He was proud of his overbearing characteristics. He was the ultimate alpha male.

Sixty-three million Americans thought Trump was a good choice for the President of the United States. Ninety million Americans stayed home on Election Day, and another ten million threw their vote away on a candidate who had no chance of winning, thinking they were protesting. No one listened to their protests as sixty-three million Americans cheered mightily as Trump won the election and became our President.

Toobin was right. Those sixty-three million Americans knew what they were getting, and to this day they are proud of their choice. Trump was exactly the kind of man they wanted as President. After all, they say so on this venue every day.

We got exactly the kind of President we deserve.

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The Access Hollywood tape was enough to make a Marine blush?

Apparently you don’t know many Marines. All he did was make jokes about gold digging whores.

...like his 2nd & 3rd wives...

All women are gold diggers to some degree. It’s in their nature.

I wouldn't say all and I wouldn't say gold diggers either. Yes, most women like a guy for security, especially financial security. The women who actually focus only on money are a handful just like there are guys (McCain and Kerry) who do the same.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

That would have been Obozo.


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who woulda thunk - first another i hate hillary & then a i hate obama post....

They are both history......


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[Pilot1]

The Media is controlled by the Far Left, as is social media ant tech,. Google admits that Silicon Valley is far left Democrat. The media omits anything that doesn't fit their leftists agenda, or the under report it. People legally use firearms all the time to defend their lives, and their families.

The media is controlled by Corporate Elitist America you loon. This fiction that the media is in bed with the far left is a lie that Repulicans have been feeding you to make you think they aren't telling the truth. And idiot that you are, you believe them.

At MOST, there is a "slight" left wing bias to the media, because FACTS favour the left. I now await howls of protest from the right but the reality is that the MSM is far more reliable than right wing talk radio which has been lying to the fly-over states since Reagan first started vilifying the poor.

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

And who could blame them.

every patriotic american.

Now that is funny as hell. Not only is Hillary one of the worst human beings on the planet, but the left are also devout America haters.

I didn't vote for Trump, but a vote for Hillary was anything BUT patriotic.

i have never been a fan of hillary, but i did vote for her... why?

she's not a russian asset.

If Trump were a Russian asset he wouldn't have put an ENERGY POLICY in place that is destroying the Russian economy, and killing Putin's income. Have you checked oil and natural gas prices lately? They are very low, and Russia lives off of their Energy Sales. It is all they have.

How do you reconcile that?

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

I apologize. You are correct. Trump can’t win. I saw it on a very interesting YouTube video. Check it out. We were all wrong about him.


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[McRocket]

Just minutes ago Jeffery Toobin of CNN fame said something very interesting. Obviously I am forced to paraphrase here, so be kind and I will try to be as accurate as I can be.

News commentators on CNN were discussing the many times Trump has lied or misled the American people. Toobin asked why should Trump change? He got elected acting the way he does.

I paused the television and thought about that. Toobin was right.

By November 8, 2016, voters knew Trump was a prolific liar. He even bragged about it in his biography, The Art of the Deal. He called it truthful hyperbole. Here is what he said about the euphemism for outright lying.

“The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

Voters could see truthful hyperbole in play in nearly every speech, statement, and tweet Trump made during the Presidential campaign of 2016.

In addition to being a prolific liar, we knew from the Access Hollywood tapes that Trump was a sexual predator while married to the current First Lady. Voters heard Trump tell us in his own words about his sexual prowess with women. It was enough to make a Marine blush.

Voters also heard Trump ask for help from the Russian government. “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

American voters were informed in October of 2016 that Russia was interfering in our Presidential election, and that WikiLeaks was acting as a conduit for the product of Russian hacking. American voters heard Trump praise WikiLeaks for the great job they were doing.

• October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
• October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."

And so on, Trump repeated his unremitting praise of WikiLeaks during the remainder of the Presidential campaign.

In addition, Trump did nothing to hide his true character, a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. In fact, he made a point of everyone knowing that he was a narcissistic, self-centered bigmouth. He was proud of his overbearing characteristics. He was the ultimate alpha male.

Sixty-three million Americans thought Trump was a good choice for the President of the United States. Ninety million Americans stayed home on Election Day, and another ten million threw their vote away on a candidate who had no chance of winning, thinking they were protesting. No one listened to their protests as sixty-three million Americans cheered mightily as Trump won the election and became our President.

Toobin was right. Those sixty-three million Americans knew what they were getting, and to this day they are proud of their choice. Trump was exactly the kind of man they wanted as President. After all, they say so on this venue every day.

We got exactly the kind of President we deserve.

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Democrats nominated Clinton, Republicans nominated Trump, two terrible nominees. Two terrible choices, people voting for the lesser of two evils.

I blame both party’s for this mess. The two party system is broken.

I agree completely, and this needs to be repeated.
Both parties were so bad that people voted for Trump as punishment I think.
If things do not improve, they will find someone even worse than Trump to elect.

The tribes are in control now, the loons.

This is the predictable result.
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I disagree, with respect.

(I have time to kill...so....)

The reason Trump won is two-fold.

1) 'White', largely male, middle/old aged, lower-middle income and lower to middle education were desperate. There are several reasons for this.

One, they see their power eroding. When they were young, they 'owned America'...especially the men. Now, they see women (finally and rightly) gaining full equality and 'white' people are becoming the minority.
Two, they have seen their incomes/career prospects/buying power erode. Why? Because America is becoming a country of servicing and not of manufacturing. And how is the government dealing with this? INCREDIBLY selfishly. They have abandoned macroeconomic fundamentals and embraced cheap money and central bank stimuli...and both parties higher-ups are loving it (though they are not saying so). And it is happening in almost every, major economy in the world. Coincidence? No chance.
The wealthy have found an easy way to get FAR wealthier - get the Fed to prop up the equity markets which drags everything else 'wealthy' along for the ride.
Unfortunately, since the middle/lower classes have minimal access to this cheap debt - they are falling behind...BIG TIME. Sure, they can get a nibble of the debt tree - but they cannot do anything with it but try and maintain a standard of living they cannot maintain indefinitely. Meanwhile, the wealthy are getting FAR wealthier. And the wealth gap is growing.
Bottom line. The American dream is dying for the 'little' guy/gal. Working hard is not enough - in fact, it's almost pointless. You MUST have access to lots of cheap credit and then invest it wisely. Because since 2001 to some extent and since 2008 to a large extent - macroeconomic fundamentals have gone on vacation.
And virtually no Americans seem to realize it (other than a fed who understand business). And those that know it are keeping their mouth shut so that the ignorant masses cannot figure it out....so the former can keep getting richer.

So why does all this lead to the above described people voting for Trump?

Because they feel betrayed by their politicians. It is them who let this situation occur. So they want a POTUS who will fix it and who will talk their language...who talks like they do. No slick talk...just down and dirty. And they want that POTUS to promise to make America once 'again' like it was back in the 1950's-70's...when it was 'great'.

And Trump offered all of this. An INCREDIBLY plain spoken, simplistic guy who told them EXACTLY what they wanted to hear. The fact that he is rich means he MUST know what he is talking about (as far as they are concerned). He is flawed - like them. He is xenophobic/fearful of losing 'white' power in America - like many of them. He is chauvinistic - like many of them (even some of the women). He IS them...with nicer suits and his Daddy's money.
And he has given them lots of people to blame - the 'swamp', illegals, foreign countries, etc.


And how has the left reacted to this macroeconomic mess that the Fed/Washington elites have created?

They want big government. They want the government to fix everything. To make everything a socialistic utopia where the government takes care of them from cradle to grave.
And that was - in 2016 - just what Bernie Sanders was promising.
And now, they have FULL ON embraced it.
And Sanders (and now Ocasio-Cortez and others) have given the Left lots of people to blame - big business, free enterprise and corrupt government that refuses to spend enough on social programs.

The Right wants to go back in time and the Left wants the government to make everything better. And - with respect - it is not because they are 'loons'. It is because they are fed up (pardon the pun), desperate and have lost faith in traditional American politics (as well they should). 99% of them have NO IDEA what is really going on (that the Fed/elites are the cause) - they just know things are getting worse for them...slowly.
So they are falling back on their core beliefs...and America is getting politically fractured in the process.

I have no idea what will happen - other then eventually the 'cheap debt' house of cards has to collapse. But that could take decades - just ask the Japanese.

But I do know it is not because Americans have suddenly gotten 'looney'. It's because they have been horribly let down (though hardly any of them know exactly why/how) and they are getting VERY desperate.


Good day.

Disagree with parts of that.

I think you're giving the American voter (especially the Trump supporters) too much credit for weighting the pluses and minuses of the candidates rationally and arriving at a decision.

How would you account for HRC getting 3,000,000 more votes than Trump in that case? He won 3 states that swung the election by about 100,000 in total. It's still a victory but if what you're describing is true, the margin would have been much more pronounced.

Where you're right is that Trump validated the fear and said he'd fix it. Clearly the fear is still there even greater than it was before.

Trump voters weighed no 'pluses and minuses'. Trump was the ONLY plain spoken candidate who promised them a 1950's-style utopia. And Hillary won the PV because the progressive movement had not fully taken hold yet. She was a traditional Democrat.

Plus, the interior of America (Trump country) has been hit much harder financially then the coasts have (Democrat country). So the former were more desperate for change. The Reps did not suddenly get stupid. They just suddenly got desperate and completely rejected 'traditional' politicians.

And the same thing is happening now to the Dems. They are going FAR more to the left then they were in 2016...because they are reaching their limits with traditional politics. If Hillary ran today, I say she would have little chance to get the nomination. Things have changed that fast over the last two years.

Anyway, you are missing the main problem...the reason for this extreme voter dissatisfaction.
And that is the pattern around the world of massive, central bank intervention to stimulate equity markets which is causing huge increases in wealth disparity.

Insulting voters won't help anything. Realizing the cause of the problems and fixing them is what needs to occur.

And I GUARANTEE you that trying to relive the 'good ole days' or trying to make the government pay for everything are NOT the answers. They will just make things much worse.

Removing the Fed's 'full employment' mandate, balancing the budget by cutting military spending/wasteful social programs and guaranteeing full healthcare for the poor/children will go a long way to fix what is ailing America.

 

[theHawk]

The Access Hollywood tape was enough to make a Marine blush?

Apparently you don’t know many Marines. All he did was make jokes about gold digging whores.

...like his 2nd & 3rd wives...

All women are gold diggers to some degree. It’s in their nature.

^^^ says the incel ^^^

That’s a good description of you:

that's the best you can do?

Bill Burr said it best a few years ago:

 

[JWBooth]

We got exactly the kind of President we deserve


You statist assholes deserve far worse, given the evil you sought to foist on the rest of us. The perpetual outrage the annoying orange causes you brings me joy.

 

[westwall]

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

That would have been Obozo.


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who woulda thunk - first another i hate hillary & then a i hate obama post....

Pot, meet kettle. You are the typical uneducated, ignorant, dupe who votes for the ruling class believing they will give you all of these wonderful things for free. Get an education, poor little hater dupe.

 

[playtime]

a lot of people voted for him because they hated hillary so much, they would rather have putin's bitch in the whitehouse.

And who could blame them.

every patriotic american.

Now that is funny as hell. Not only is Hillary one of the worst human beings on the planet, but the left are also devout America haters.

I didn't vote for Trump, but a vote for Hillary was anything BUT patriotic.

i have never been a fan of hillary, but i did vote for her... why?

she's not a russian asset.

The woman who is partly responsible for selling Russia our uranium is not a Russian asset?
The women who indirectly paid Russia for phony information about Trump is not a Russian asset?
Trump made a joke about Russia. Oh! He must be a Russian asset.

The woman who is partly responsible for selling Russia our uranium is not a Russian asset?

debunked.................

The women who indirectly paid Russia for phony information about Trump is not a Russian asset?

you mean the dossier that was first obtained by a (R) nothing in the dossier has been proven untrue. in fact some info has been found true & some just hasn't been verified.

Trump made a joke about Russia. Oh! He must be a Russian asset.

ya, uh-huh. right.... sure. it was that & only that.

that cheeto dust is there, ray ray.