We have to keep this in our minds about the right.

[defcon4]

It means that all Americans are immigrants or offspring of immigrants

Nonsense. I am not an immigrant, nor the offspring of immigrants.

Then your native American, why didn't you just say so.

Of course I'm a native American. The family has been here eight generations.

No your American stupid. You are a Immigrant bozo.

It's "you're," not "your," dumbass.

Look at his further posts I quote below. English is his second language, which is fine but he is an international communist.

Why do people that have a brain just get a blank stare when a goof ball gun bubba starts talking about their true love and the symbol of their manly hood.

No your American stupid. You are a Immigrant bozo.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Does the "E Pluribus Unum," the motto of the U.S.A. mean anything to you?

It means that all Americans are immigrants or offspring of immigrants

Nonsense. I am not an immigrant, nor the offspring of immigrants.

Then your native American, why didn't you just say so.

Of course I'm a native American. The family has been here eight generations.

No your American stupid. You are a Immigrant bozo.

That vacuum in your head is intriguing, but tell me. At which generation does a transplant become native?

 

[boedicca]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

It's "Funk & Wagnalls", you blithering babbling booby.

So now that you've got the source right, post the definition, booby. I found Britannica's. Do you own your own home, car, land, property, business? You do? Oh good, then you're not living in socialism:

"""Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live orwork in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members."""

socialism

Not one person from the hate party has ever gotten it right , I've challenged them a hundred times to prove that my president country or me are communist or socialist and the are zero for a 100. not even coming close. They general have no clue what their talking points even means. Ask them to prove that Hillary Clinton is a Criminal like they say, you get stupidity and blank stares.

Logic challenged much? What the vast majority of us have said is that the Left has an agenda to TRANSFORM the country into a Totalitarian Utopia. We are providing a warning that the sytstem of Neo-Serfdom-Slavery you promote is on its way.

Stupid little Kanigget.

 

[boedicca]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

I've said this many times. They get away with paying no taxes and then whine that they live in a socialist country. It's laughable.

Another moron who celebrates his complete and utter lack of knowledge and inability to use a search engine. If he weren't a financial illiterate, he could also go to the numerous financial websites and look up SEC filings for public companies.

Here are some Income Taxes for you (from 2012):

1. ExxonMobil
• Income tax expense: $31.05 billion
• Earnings before taxes: $78.73 billion
• Revenue: $428.38 billion
•1-year share price change: 6.56%
• Industry: Oil and gas

2. Chevron
• Income tax expense: $20.00 billion
• Earnings before taxes: $46.33 billion
• Revenue: $222.58 billion
• 1-year share price change: 9.52%
• Industry: Oil and gas

3. Apple
• Income tax expense: $14.21 billion
• Earnings before taxes: $55.96 billion
• Revenue: $164.69 billion
• 1-year share price change: -20.68%
• Industry: Computer hardware

4. Wells Fargo
• Income tax expense: $9.10 billion
• Earnings before taxes: $28.47 billion
• Revenue: $79.45 billion
• 1-year share price change: 16.77%
• Industry: Banks

5. Wal-Mart
• Income tax expense: $7.98 billion
• Earnings before taxes: $25.74 billion
• Revenue: $469.16 billion
• 1-year share price change: 21.87%
• Industry: Supermarkets

Companies paying the most in income taxes

So with this goofiness , your trying to tell us that all rich people and corporations all pay taxes. You have been hit with a stupid stick

You are a stupid stick.

Srsly.

 

[bripat9643]

I have yet to understand the ideas that shape the outlook of so many ANTI conservatives, I AM a conservative DEMOCRAT, the party I call dimocrats have left me, They are NOT for the working class, or ANY class except themselves. They are RULING CLASS SOCIALIST, meaning they want socialisim in the image of the Russian state under Lenin. That means THEM living as dictatorial rulers, and everyone else doing their bidding, and everyone else living at their pleasure. To understand that you must follow the events of the past 15 years with a multiplanic vision. I know that is hard for a mentally challenged indoctrinated liberal, so I don't expect it. The school system has been revamped to center not on basic learning skills, but social direction and modeling. The military and police have been restructured to do more in country war that external protection. The (NEWS?) media have been turned into a socialist cheerleading propaganda tool. The economy has been sequestered by regulation and artificial suppression. The Fact is that the corporations are doing better than ever for their ruling class friends, but holding back the capital for themselves because of government control. The FACT is that the only way to raise revenue from a finite capital pool is to increase transaction speed, because as each transaction is made, the tax revenue is disbursed. Regulations, and SUPRESSION cause the slow down of transactions and loss of tax revenue. dimshits are always suppressing revenue with some type of suppressive action. THAT is why we are only getting five more cents an hour while our Big Mac has nearly doubled in the past 7.83 years.

My first chance to show how stupid you people are, You have no clue what a socialist is, not even close, it's total bullshit. I will prove it. You go to your funk and Wagner and get the definition of Socialism, Marxism or communism , find out what the main tenets of those are and come back and tell us how by those Tenets rhat my President , my party or me are socialist Communist or Marxist. You people are just blind stupid. You live in a make believe world of lies and hatred and you don't have a clue and this will prove it.

It's "Funk & Wagnalls", you blithering babbling booby.

So now that you've got the source right, post the definition, booby. I found Britannica's. Do you own your own home, car, land, property, business? You do? Oh good, then you're not living in socialism:

"""Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live orwork in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members."""

socialism

Not one person from the hate party has ever gotten it right , I've challenged them a hundred times to prove that my president country or me are communist or socialist and the are zero for a 100. not even coming close. They general have no clue what their talking points even means. Ask them to prove that Hillary Clinton is a Criminal like they say, you get stupidity and blank stares.

Congresswoman threatens to nationalize oil industry

 

[bripat9643]

One thing I hope people will remember is the fact that who Trump is and what Trump is is what they right wants for this country, that can not be forgotten. If that doesn't move you simply look at Paul Ryans Budget proposals over the years and it will reiterate the same thing. What the right wants for us is ugly. Even though business is on a tare in this country , profits are at a all time high and the percentage of gross that is profit are at a all time high and the fact that only one small group in this country has gained anything from this and the gains are massive in the last 35 year. Add in the fact that every dime of the new wealth of the richest country in the world has gone only to the top. No one else. Along with the highest corporate profits in history, Paul Ryan wants to transfer more to corporations and the rich, the money will all come from programs for the needy ,the old and the sick and also from Education. Thats what the right wants for this country. Like I said it's ugly.
There has never been a time in my life time (71 years) that so many have voted against their best interest.

Therein lies the problem with the country. Voting for personal interests, i.e. what can I get for nothing, and not for Constitutional principles.

The Rightwing treats the Constitution not as a sacred document but as a symbolic trope in their ideology of revanchism.

Revanchism is a strategy used by the party bosses (and spread by talk radio) where they tell uneducated or uninformed voters that their nation has been stolen by outsiders.

When a Republican is in the White House, you never see the call for constitutional fidelity. For instance, talk radio never talked about Bush 43's anti-constitutional wire tapping program, as it was initially set-up before Bush got caught and was forced to re-launch the program with greater CONSTITUTIONAL protections for American citizens.

In fact, Defcon4, I bet you cannot list the actual areas where both Reagan and Bush 43 violated the Constitution. The reason you can't list these things is because your information sources only mention The Constitution when they are criticizing a democratic administration.

Hitler told uninformed "homelanders" that mother Germany had been infiltrated by people who didn't respect it's borders, language, culture, tradition, and laws.

This is how dangerous political movements seize power, by channeling the resentment of aggrieved citizens at a scapegoat, which is typically the political opposition.

McCarthyism was a form of this. It was based on convincing the rightwing voter that the left was in bed with the Soviet Union.

Turn off talk radio and go to a library. Study all the Constitutional violations throughout history. Stop carrying the water for a political party, and respect the founding document this nation.

Hitler during a time when Germany was in a horrible depression in the early 30's, gave the people of his country something to blame their problems on ,it's easy during bad times because during those times people have a perception of them selves as losers, , So Hitler gave them Unions, Jews and Gypsies to blame for their perceived failures, then in This country years later Bush and his party destroy our economy and of course people perceive themselves as failures and need something to blame it on , so the hate party gives then Unions, Mexicans and Muslims.

Hitler was not hostile to unions, moron, and neither is Trump. In fact, he will probably get most of the union vote. Those are the "uneducated" that douche bags like you are so fond of deriding. Trump also has nothing against Mexicans. He just thinks they belong in their own country, not here. As for Muslims, anyone with a brain hates them. They are despicable bloodthirsty savages.

It's hard to argue when people are this stupid. Hitler abolisher unions in 1932 or 33 he hated unions with a passion , and in abolishing them he took all their assets, arrested all the top union people and then Hitler then outlawed strikes, abolished collective bargaining and established the German Labor Front, a corrupt party organization.

Yep, and Stalin did the exact same thing. Was he a fascist?

 

[bripat9643]

Hitler told uninformed "homelanders" that mother Germany had been infiltrated by people who didn't respect it's borders, language, culture, tradition, and laws.

In Germany's case it wasn't true. German Jews were citizens.

Of course.

But American Liberals are also citizens, yet they are treated as anti-American "outsiders" who don't have a right to power, even when that power is legally and constitutionally certified through an election. Obama is not seen as legitimate by many in your party. The whole Birther Movement, in so far as it was/is used as a tool to obstruct him, actually shreds the Constitutional Rights of those who voted for him.

But here is my point. Liberals in congress, hollywood and the news media are not seen as Real Americans. They are seen as anti-American or un-American. This means you don't have to share power with them, and it's why you want a one-party Republican or rightwing state.

Hitler and the US-Republican Party believe/believed that there was/is one true Germany/USA. This kind of thinking is at home in both religious and Fascists systems. These system hold that there is one fixed set of values that every human must live by. There is no such thing as individual choice or a plurality of visions to be respected by a minimalist state - a state not based on the imposition of values but a sphere of non-interference so that each individual can choose and act upon their own values. For instance, I may love this nation for the New Deal, Roe v Wade and the Civil Rights Act, but you might love it for the Iraq War and Ronald Reagan. In your world, my America doesn't exist. To you, I am an outsider. Calling me an outsider or an anti-American makes it easy for you to obstruct the candidates I send to Washington therefore denying my Constitutionally Protected right to vote).

Since, as you claim, we Liberals are anti-Americans who are bent on destroying your country, you don't have to allow the president we voted for the right to pick a Supreme Court nominee because he's not a Real American, nor are his voters. This is a very old strategy. When tyrannical movements take power, they start by saying that only people in their movement have a right to exercise power. Everyone else, they tell us, is not a Real Citizen. [This means that when Reagan or Bush violate the Constitution, it is ignored or never reported]

It all starts with revanchism - the belief that there is one true set of citizens whose nation has been stolen by people who don't share their values, the one true set of values. FYI: this is a common political technique used by despotic movements to avoid having to submit policy disputes to public discussion. The goal is to de-legitimize the other side before they open their mouth, and to obstruct them to death if their politicians sneak by your gerrymander.

Hitler singled out the Jews because they were different than traditional Germans, just as Liberals are different than traditional conservatives. The fact that each "outsider" group are citizens is besides the point. They've stolen the country and they're destroying it. They must be stopped.

[Again, this is what despotic regimes do. They refuse to share power with people outside their movement, who they claim are not real citizens of the home nation, even if they have the legal status of citizens.]

When it comes to Legal Citizens, there are not Real Americans vs Anti-Americans. There are merely policy differences, and they are settled through the Democratic machinery of electing representatives. By calling liberal voters and politicians un-American, you are merely laying the foundation to obstruct their Constitutional rights to exercise power and share in the shaping of this nation.

Your comparison of U.S. citizen conservatives to Nazis disqualifies you from further intelligent conversation.

This remark attacking one of the better comments here, good ideas , good reasoning and just a great comment , so what are people that look at a superior comment and call it no good. How about just stupid.

Londoner is a communist who posts nothing but lies and propaganda. We are so shocked that you would like him/her.

 

[bripat9643]

You just proved you're a communist with your glowing descriptions of communism. Communism is pure slavery, and only a communist would deny it.

Is that all it takes to be Communist, you know I thought it was a little more complicated then that.

Only communists have anything nice to say about it. That's what you just did. That's how we identify communists. That's not what it takes to be one. You have to be a complete moron to be a communist.

How hard is it to become one of your "We's" that your talking about in your comment. Take a 100 points off you IQ?

You have to have an I.Q. over 100 to be part of the "we." You obviously don't qualify.

You defend communism. Therefore you are a communist.

You comment there fore your stupid.

Your syllogism does not equate, moron.

 

[Rustic]

One thing I hope people will remember is the fact that who Trump is and what Trump is is what they right wants for this country, that can not be forgotten. If that doesn't move you simply look at Paul Ryans Budget proposals over the years and it will reiterate the same thing. What the right wants for us is ugly. Even though business is on a tare in this country , profits are at a all time high and the percentage of gross that is profit are at a all time high and the fact that only one small group in this country has gained anything from this and the gains are massive in the last 35 year. Add in the fact that every dime of the new wealth of the richest country in the world has gone only to the top. No one else. Along with the highest corporate profits in history, Paul Ryan wants to transfer more to corporations and the rich, the money will all come from programs for the needy ,the old and the sick and also from Education. Thats what the right wants for this country. Like I said it's ugly.
There has never been a time in my life time (71 years) that so many have voted against their best interest.

It's best for everybody if the country breaks into pieces, barry did a superb job growing hate in the country... hope and change was/is all about hate. Lol

 

[jbander]

It means that all Americans are immigrants or offspring of immigrants

Nonsense. I am not an immigrant, nor the offspring of immigrants.

Then your native American, why didn't you just say so.

Of course I'm a native American. The family has been here eight generations.

No your American stupid. You are a Immigrant bozo.

It's "you're," not "your," dumbass.

I'm glad you pointed that out. When That happens I know that I got you by the short hairs and you don't like the corner your backed into. The old you can't spell routine has been my favorite indicator of how I'm getting over you for a long time. My sentence structure is horrible also.

 

[jbander]

One thing I hope people will remember is the fact that who Trump is and what Trump is is what they right wants for this country, that can not be forgotten. If that doesn't move you simply look at Paul Ryans Budget proposals over the years and it will reiterate the same thing. What the right wants for us is ugly. Even though business is on a tare in this country , profits are at a all time high and the percentage of gross that is profit are at a all time high and the fact that only one small group in this country has gained anything from this and the gains are massive in the last 35 year. Add in the fact that every dime of the new wealth of the richest country in the world has gone only to the top. No one else. Along with the highest corporate profits in history, Paul Ryan wants to transfer more to corporations and the rich, the money will all come from programs for the needy ,the old and the sick and also from Education. Thats what the right wants for this country. Like I said it's ugly.
There has never been a time in my life time (71 years) that so many have voted against their best interest.

It's best for everybody if the country breaks into pieces, barry did a superb job growing hate in the country... hope and change was/is all about hate. Lol

Ya it was Obama who put down the Mexicans and Muslims with hate frothing at his mouth and his bigotry has been more then noted, add in his hatred of Unions, teachers , the poor ,the old , women, the 47%, and government workers and we all know exactly what your talking about.

 

[jbander]

You comment there fore your stupid.

Is that Google Translate?

always thought 'therefore' was one word, you are would be more appropriate myself

Like I said I know I've won when my spelling is the best they can come up with. I think it has more to do with the fact that I buried you in your own stupidity but thats just me.

 

[jbander]

Ok folks it has been a slice and the closer we get to this election the easier you poor suckers become. but I always enjoy drawing out the hatred that is the bedrock of your party. Your getting weaker haters, don't just shrivel up like this, I want you hanging in there, as best you can, so I can make a fool of you poor suckers. You have only said 2 things that are true in 192 posts, I can't spell and my sentence structure is really bad. So I'll give you 2 out of 500 ,That leaves me with 498 times where I got it over you folks. Thanks folks and good bye.

 

[Auld Phart]

You comment there fore your stupid.

Is that Google Translate?

always thought 'therefore' was one word, you are would be more appropriate myself

Like I said I know I've won when my spelling is the best they can come up with. I think it has more to do with the fact that I buried you in your own stupidity but thats just me.

I was laughing at you calling every one that doesn't agree with you ignorant, and then proving how ignorant you are.

I gave you periods when such a bill COULD have been passed, and you just keep whining about the party of hate..

 

[bripat9643]

Nonsense. I am not an immigrant, nor the offspring of immigrants.

Then your native American, why didn't you just say so.

Of course I'm a native American. The family has been here eight generations.

No your American stupid. You are a Immigrant bozo.

It's "you're," not "your," dumbass.

I'm glad you pointed that out. When That happens I know that I got you by the short hairs and you don't like the corner your backed into. The old you can't spell routine has been my favorite indicator of how I'm getting over you for a long time. My sentence structure is horrible also.

I wasn't even contributing to the thread until you demonstrated your stupidity while calling another forum member "stupid."