We haven't found aliens because they're aren't any

[Unkotare]

Earth May Have Formed Earlier Than 92% Of Other Habitable Planets

Or later than 92% of other planets or somewhere in the middle.

Read the article.

 

[jon_berzerk]

If there is more advanced life out there it is probably best that it doesn't find us. We may not fare so well with such an encounter. Hawking even considered this when the message and invitation was put on the Voyageur 1 spacecraft. The silence at this point is actually a good thing.

That's the classic paradox. We all want there to be other life out there, but if it finds us before we find it, that means it's much more advanced and we are likely to be at the mercy of it.

We are so far apart, we will never find each other

one or the other will need to be able to travel faster much faster then the speed of light

 

[Arianrhod]

It isn't necessary to travel to each other's respective planets in order to communicate.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

If there is more advanced life out there it is probably best that it doesn't find us. We may not fare so well with such an encounter. Hawking even considered this when the message and invitation was put on the Voyageur 1 spacecraft. The silence at this point is actually a good thing.

That's the classic paradox. We all want there to be other life out there, but if it finds us before we find it, that means it's much more advanced and we are likely to be at the mercy of it.

We are so far apart, we will never find each other

one or the other will need to be able to travel faster much faster then the speed of light

And as far as we know, that is an impossibility.

 

[jon_berzerk]

If there is more advanced life out there it is probably best that it doesn't find us. We may not fare so well with such an encounter. Hawking even considered this when the message and invitation was put on the Voyageur 1 spacecraft. The silence at this point is actually a good thing.

That's the classic paradox. We all want there to be other life out there, but if it finds us before we find it, that means it's much more advanced and we are likely to be at the mercy of it.

We are so far apart, we will never find each other

one or the other will need to be able to travel faster much faster then the speed of light

And as far as we know, that is an impossibility.

yup

 

[Unkotare]

It isn't necessary to travel to each other's respective planets in order to communicate.

Sure, but where are we going to find enough string to run between the two old soup cans?

 

[Boss]

I'm still seeing the conversation here centered around "planets which can sustain life" or "planets hospitable to life" and given the enormous number of planets out there, this seems to be a no-brainer. I think such a speculation is a pretty safe bet however, this is not the question.

We cannot assume that just because life originated here it can originate anywhere a planet is hospitable or able to sustain life. Until we can answer the question of origin, we can't assume life must exist elsewhere. It's possible, anything is possible. It's also possible the spark that originated biogenesis processes here is extremely rare and quite possibly unique. Since we can't explain how life originated, we just do not know. We do know, or at least we should realize, whatever happened to cause life to originate is exquisitely rare because we can't reproduce the phenomenon or answer this question.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Life on earth is a mathematical impossibility.

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That's like saying you have experienced mathematical infinity.
.

Well actually, if one considers a Big Bang happening, the odds that this earth just happened to become placed in a position whereby it could support life as we know it and also have all the right condition to support this life as we know it is in itself a stretch. If one further does the math, the odds of a single cell lifeform springing forth from some slime pool is practically an impossibility. The mathematical probability of a single cell mutating into a two or more celled lifeform is beyond the pale of any expectation.

Ludicrous conclusions.

You have beliefs that you try to squeeze facts into, not the other way around.

Science takes a premise and either confirms or ELIMINATES it if it isn't valid. Religion twists every fact to fit the premise regardless of evidence. The premise is in fact the 'god'.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

It isn't necessary to travel to each other's respective planets in order to communicate.

Sure, but where are we going to find enough string to run between the two old soup cans?

I have a few old balls of kite string I could donate to the cause.

 

[Unkotare]

It isn't necessary to travel to each other's respective planets in order to communicate.

Sure, but where are we going to find enough string to run between the two old soup cans?

I have a few old balls of kite string I could donate to the cause.

Alright, that's a start! Let's get this thing going!

 

[the_human_being]

Life on earth is a mathematical impossibility.

---
That's like saying you have experienced mathematical infinity.
.

Well actually, if one considers a Big Bang happening, the odds that this earth just happened to become placed in a position whereby it could support life as we know it and also have all the right condition to support this life as we know it is in itself a stretch. If one further does the math, the odds of a single cell lifeform springing forth from some slime pool is practically an impossibility. The mathematical probability of a single cell mutating into a two or more celled lifeform is beyond the pale of any expectation.

Ludicrous conclusions.

You have beliefs that you try to squeeze facts into, not the other way around.

Science takes a premise and either confirms or ELIMINATES it if it isn't valid. Religion twists every fact to fit the premise regardless of evidence. The premise is in fact the 'god'.

No it certainly isn't. Agnostics worship science as their god. Mathematics, which is the primary building block of any study of science is Satan himself to agnostics. Agnostics cannot abide the truth of mathematics.

 

[Boss]

Science takes a premise and either confirms or ELIMINATES it if it isn't valid.

No it really doesn't... that's simply YOUR view of science and you are ignorant. You should stop using Sir Isaac Newton as your moniker because he would be majorly embarrassed by you. Science does not confirm and it doesn't eliminate, it merely predicts probability of possibility. HUMANS, in turn, confirm or conclude, eliminate or dismiss. Science continues to ask questions.

Had Newton eliminated premises based on what science had said at the time, he would have never discovered anything... no scientist would. It is quite often the challenging of what science indicates which leads to our greatest discoveries.

 

[the_human_being]

I'm still seeing the conversation here centered around "planets which can sustain life" or "planets hospitable to life" and given the enormous number of planets out there, this seems to be a no-brainer. I think such a speculation is a pretty safe bet however, this is not the question.

We cannot assume that just because life originated here it can originate anywhere a planet is hospitable or able to sustain life. Until we can answer the question of origin, we can't assume life must exist elsewhere. It's possible, anything is possible. It's also possible the spark that originated biogenesis processes here is extremely rare and quite possibly unique. Since we can't explain how life originated, we just do not know. We do know, or at least we should realize, whatever happened to cause life to originate is exquisitely rare because we can't reproduce the phenomenon or answer this question.

Exactly. All is conjecture.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Life on earth is a mathematical impossibility.

---
That's like saying you have experienced mathematical infinity.
.

Well actually, if one considers a Big Bang happening, the odds that this earth just happened to become placed in a position whereby it could support life as we know it and also have all the right condition to support this life as we know it is in itself a stretch. If one further does the math, the odds of a single cell lifeform springing forth from some slime pool is practically an impossibility. The mathematical probability of a single cell mutating into a two or more celled lifeform is beyond the pale of any expectation.

Ludicrous conclusions.

You have beliefs that you try to squeeze facts into, not the other way around.

Science takes a premise and either confirms or ELIMINATES it if it isn't valid. Religion twists every fact to fit the premise regardless of evidence. The premise is in fact the 'god'.

No it certainly isn't. Agnostics worship science as their god. Mathematics, which is the primary building block of any study of science is Satan himself to agnostics. Agnostics cannot abide the truth of mathematics.

Ignorance on display, not believing in a thing doesn't mean you worship the empty space.

It just means there is an empty space.

Conservatives have glommed on to this fallacy of trying to bring everyone else down to their level of 'belief' in a supernatural being by claiming the reciprocal of anyone challenging their beliefs.

It is the equivalent of arguing "I know you are but what am I".
A beautiful argument to be put forth by a child, but for an adult it is admission that you have no argument.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

It isn't necessary to travel to each other's respective planets in order to communicate.

Sure, but where are we going to find enough string to run between the two old soup cans?

I have a few old balls of kite string I could donate to the cause.

Alright, that's a start! Let's get this thing going!

#SpaceString ?

 

[rightwinger]

If there is more advanced life out there it is probably best that it doesn't find us. We may not fare so well with such an encounter. Hawking even considered this when the message and invitation was put on the Voyageur 1 spacecraft. The silence at this point is actually a good thing.

That's the classic paradox. We all want there to be other life out there, but if it finds us before we find it, that means it's much more advanced and we are likely to be at the mercy of it.

We are so far apart, we will never find each other

one or the other will need to be able to travel faster much faster then the speed of light

Which is not possible

 

[rightwinger]

Life on earth is a mathematical impossibility.

---
That's like saying you have experienced mathematical infinity.
.

Well actually, if one considers a Big Bang happening, the odds that this earth just happened to become placed in a position whereby it could support life as we know it and also have all the right condition to support this life as we know it is in itself a stretch. If one further does the math, the odds of a single cell lifeform springing forth from some slime pool is practically an impossibility. The mathematical probability of a single cell mutating into a two or more celled lifeform is beyond the pale of any expectation.

Ludicrous conclusions.

You have beliefs that you try to squeeze facts into, not the other way around.

Science takes a premise and either confirms or ELIMINATES it if it isn't valid. Religion twists every fact to fit the premise regardless of evidence. The premise is in fact the 'god'.

No it certainly isn't. Agnostics worship science as their god. Mathematics, which is the primary building block of any study of science is Satan himself to agnostics. Agnostics cannot abide the truth of mathematics.

Science is not a god

It is a series of theories substantiated by scientific facts
Something a belief in God can't do

 

[Boss]

#SpaceString ?

Unkatore's Unified Space String Theory!

 

[Unkotare]

Start working on the statue now...

 

[Boss]

Which is not possible

Quantum Entanglement - Careful what you claim is impossible.