We prospered in 07 W/ 2.7 Trillion. We are failing W/ 3.8 trillion in 2012. WHY?

[editec]

It is a very simple question
we blame W on everything
yet we were doing fine in 2007 with the last GOP budget
5 years later we have shut down tours to the white-house
why?

Read a book, man.

The cascading failure of the big banks is well documented both by leaning right AND leaning left economists.

Both essentially agree that the dramatic increases in debt laden money attatched to sub prime mortgages were the root cause of the economic meltdown.

 

[JRK]

It is a very simple question
we blame W on everything
yet we were doing fine in 2007 with the last GOP budget
5 years later we have shut down tours to the white-house
why?

Read a book, man.

The cascading failure of the big banks is well documented both by leaning right AND leaning left economists.

Both essentially agree that the dramatic increases in debt laden money attatched to sub prime mortgages were the root cause of the economic meltdown.

And that was GWB fault why?
what was he or for that matter congress run by the dems suppose to do to stop it?

watch and learn if you have the courage
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM]Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown - YouTube[/ame]

 

[FJO]

Your precious W will forever get all the credit he deserves for lying this country into war and crashing the entire worlds economy.

Do you miss Saddam?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Along with a lot if Iraqis.

Did you ever notice that the country of Iraq just worked better when Saddam ran it?
How many IEDs were let off every day in Iraq when Saddam ran it? How much oil did Iraq produce when Saddam ran it? How many religious mixed neighborhoods were there in Iraq when Saddam ran it? How much electricity was available every day when Saddam ran Iraq?

And just what the fuk did Saddam do to you personally to make you want to waste billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives?

And, of course, under Mussolini in Italy the trains ran on time.

Under Stalin millions of people lived such great prosperity that he needed to build an "Iron Curtain" to keep those impoverished Western Europeans from sharing the wealth.

Hitler almost had the "Final Solution", and Germany under him was the greatest military and economic power in Europe.

Mao Tse Tung ran China to immense wealth over the dead bodies of innocent people.

All great, peaceful, well run countries, just like Iraq under Saddam.

Right??

 

[Nova78]

We prospered in 07 W/ 2.7 Trillion. We are failing W/ 3.8 trillion in 2012. WHY?

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

It is a very simple question
we blame W on everything
yet we were doing fine in 2007 with the last GOP budget
5 years later we have shut down tours to the white-house
why?

Read a book, man.

The cascading failure of the big banks is well documented both by leaning right AND leaning left economists.

Both essentially agree that the dramatic increases in debt laden money attatched to sub prime mortgages were the root cause of the economic meltdown.

And that was GWB fault why?

1. Massive buying of securities by the FED, period, inauguration -2002 - to prop up the economy afte the dot-com bust of 2000-2001/enron, et al. (see, #2 as well)

2. Failure of leadership to reject legislation and behind the scenes encouraging the GreenspRandian creature to drop interest rates, a combination that led to a crazy debt-fueled real estate bubble (much like the crazy debt-fueled national economy after 1981), period, inauguration -2004

3. Gulling scumball Democrats and moronic nutballs into massive tax reduction as US entered dot-com recession (see #1 and #2 to understand how fucking braindead crazy this was)

4. 2001 failure of leadership to protect America from Saudi Arabian terrorist attack led to deeper recession than dot-com bubble was looking like

5. Moronic invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan including no-bid contracts to VPs corporate employer and others (there are books written about how this fed into lack of confidence in the economy; no point listing more on that here.)

6. Katrina proved what many suspected: that the Bush League were basically lowlife cocksuckers without a clue. Katrina proved that the United States of America had no hand on the wheel of policy. MASSIVE loss of confidence.

7. Loss of confidence in US leadership in fall/winter 2005 (see Katrina) directly CAUSED the sub-prime meltdown of January 2006. Bush had bitched and moaned like a cat in heat, but had done nothing, and when observers saw Bush in the headlights during Katrina real estate began to tumble - especially what insiders knew to be rotten, subprime morgages.

8. Bush's advisers pushed the GreenspRandian scum to do EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what was needed to stop the panic - instead of cutting rates as he had done to start the bubble 2001-2004, the Randroid robot listened to Bush and continued raising interest rates [think Herbert Hoover] thereby magnifying the scale of the collapse. The bag licking Greenspan followed orders like he was a rebel private; again, no brains, no leadership - anywhere on the deck.

9. Having Greenspan and BLS jig data starting in the spring of 2007 to deny the US was wings-on-fire headed into a recession. It was not until the summer of 2008 that the lying halfwit cocksucker was forced to admit the rcession had in fact started when any number of us said it did, in the fall of 2007. Another undeniable and absolute failure of leadership, the 9th on this list.

10. Throughout the dope addled halfwit inheritor and cocksucking draft dodger's term he treated the United States Treasury pretty much like he had his father's bank account into his forties when the family finally got him a state government job in Tejas. In eight years the rotten little cocksucker DOUBLED the peacetime debt of the US, much as his spiritual guide-on, Bobble Head Reagan, had TRIPLED THE US DEBT in eight years.

Bottom line: no rational person even tries to challenge the absolute locked down fact that Junebug Bush is directly responsible for the Crash of 2008, a crash that a high school debating team leader might have been able to push out indefinitely demonstrating as much fiscal discipline as a shithouse rat and the command presence of a cheerleading team coach.

Here is all anyone ever needs to know about the filthy lowlife cocksucker Junebug Bush...

Next.

 

[JRK]

Your precious W will forever get all the credit he deserves for lying this country into war and crashing the entire worlds economy.

Do you miss Saddam?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Along with a lot if Iraqis.

Did you ever notice that the country of Iraq just worked better when Saddam ran it?
How many IEDs were let off every day in Iraq when Saddam ran it? How much oil did Iraq produce when Saddam ran it? How many religious mixed neighborhoods were there in Iraq when Saddam ran it? How much electricity was available every day when Saddam ran Iraq?

And just what the fuk did Saddam do to you personally to make you want to waste billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives?

really?
The why is it we spent billions trying to get him to behave?
the UN stated in 2003 that he had over 6500 munitions missing classified as WMDS

Update 27 January 2003

what did Saddam to to me?
All he had to do was become part of the solution after invading Kuwait
His behavior as well as paying KIDS to kill them selves in the name of terror killed many innocent people as well as many brave coalition troops
Saddam Hussein was the problem
for the record 60% of the dems in congress voted for the removal of Saddam by the use of force
10/2002

war sucks

 

[rdean]

Bush was such a profligate spender and warmonger that Obama had to continue his policies. Now we not only have a bloated military with bases all over the world, we have social programs we cannot possibly pay for, a health care system run by bureaucrats and insurance companies, and an economy with ilttle hope of recovery.

The good news is that gay activists have made a pretty good run at nullifying the will of the people via the courts.

Democrats refer to these things as progress.

GWB in some ways is a blue dog democrat. It is without question the most baffling part of the hate the left had had for him, a hate with passion I might add.
But
Compared to BHO he is as conservative as they come. Why is it we keep blaming GWB for the wars?
On 1/27/2003 Hans Blix made it clear Saddam was lying, had 6500 munitions deemed WMDs missing and had claimed he was in possession of a large stock pile of Anthrax.
Saddam had had 18 months to comply. After 9-11 was this country ready to take another chance?
The answer was no then and with the same events ever to occur again we would do the same.
One other item them press has never reported on. Al Qaeda was in Iraq in 2002 setting up base

there is a huge difference in a 162 billion dollar deficit as it compares to 1.4 trillion

Spending 2.7 trillion vs 3.8

What the fuck is wrong with you stooge. Saddam was a Sunni. Bin Laden and al Qaeda are Shiite.

Who the fuck are you? John McCain?

al Qaeda was in Iraq because Bush let them in.

Bush a Democrat???? So if he's a disaster, he must be a Democrat? Sorry, the Republicans own this one. Bush followed their policies perfectly. If anything, he was more like Reagan.

 

[Article 15]

It is a very simple question
we blame W on everything
yet we were doing fine in 2007 with the last GOP budget
5 years later we have shut down tours to the white-house
why?

It's a mystery why the GOP has a credibility problem these days.

 

[auditor0007]

Do you miss Saddam?

Do you?

He was a conservative hero, until he wasn't.

So was Osama Bin Laden.

No, I'm glad he's dead. Did you send flowers?

Why are you glad he is dead? Did this improve your life in some way? My life hasn't changed any, and I highly doubt it would have changed any if he were still alive. What we did in Iraq and Afghanistan was waste between $4 and $6 trillion, which is the estimated total cost of these two wars, we killed tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, it cost us over 7000 American lives, and more than 50,000 American soldiers have been injured, many of them coming home permanently disabled.

So what did we get in return for that investment? We got shit back for it. We are no safer today than we were before we went to war in those two countries. Thinking that we are would only prove one to be suffering from hallucinations. If nothing else, I hope we have learned a valuable lesson in the true costs of war, but somehow I doubt that when there are many like you who think it was all worth it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Read a book, man.

The cascading failure of the big banks is well documented both by leaning right AND leaning left economists.

Both essentially agree that the dramatic increases in debt laden money attatched to sub prime mortgages were the root cause of the economic meltdown.

And that was GWB fault why?

1. Massive buying of securities by the FED, period, inauguration -2002 - to prop up the economy afte the dot-com bust of 2000-2001/enron, et al. (see, #2 as well)

2. Failure of leadership to reject legislation and behind the scenes encouraging the GreenspRandian creature to drop interest rates, a combination that led to a crazy debt-fueled real estate bubble (much like the crazy debt-fueled national economy after 1981), period, inauguration -2004

3. Gulling scumball Democrats and moronic nutballs into massive tax reduction as US entered dot-com recession (see #1 and #2 to understand how fucking braindead crazy this was)

4. 2001 failure of leadership to protect America from Saudi Arabian terrorist attack led to deeper recession than dot-com bubble was looking like

5. Moronic invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan including no-bid contracts to VPs corporate employer and others (there are books written about how this fed into lack of confidence in the economy; no point listing more on that here.)

6. Katrina proved what many suspected: that the Bush League were basically lowlife cocksuckers without a clue. Katrina proved that the United States of America had no hand on the wheel of policy. MASSIVE loss of confidence.

7. Loss of confidence in US leadership in fall/winter 2005 (see Katrina) directly CAUSED the sub-prime meltdown of January 2006. Bush had bitched and moaned like a cat in heat, but had done nothing, and when observers saw Bush in the headlights during Katrina real estate began to tumble - especially what insiders knew to be rotten, subprime morgages.

8. Bush's advisers pushed the GreenspRandian scum to do EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what was needed to stop the panic - instead of cutting rates as he had done to start the bubble 2001-2004, the Randroid robot listened to Bush and continued raising interest rates [think Herbert Hoover] thereby magnifying the scale of the collapse. The bag licking Greenspan followed orders like he was a rebel private; again, no brains, no leadership - anywhere on the deck.

9. Having Greenspan and BLS jig data starting in the spring of 2007 to deny the US was wings-on-fire headed into a recession. It was not until the summer of 2008 that the lying halfwit cocksucker was forced to admit the rcession had in fact started when any number of us said it did, in the fall of 2007. Another undeniable and absolute failure of leadership, the 9th on this list.

10. Throughout the dope addled halfwit inheritor and cocksucking draft dodger's term he treated the United States Treasury pretty much like he had his father's bank account into his forties when the family finally got him a state government job in Tejas. In eight years the rotten little cocksucker DOUBLED the peacetime debt of the US, much as his spiritual guide-on, Bobble Head Reagan, had TRIPLED THE US DEBT in eight years.

Bottom line: no rational person even tries to challenge the absolute locked down fact that Junebug Bush is directly responsible for the Crash of 2008, a crash that a high school debating team leader might have been able to push out indefinitely demonstrating as much fiscal discipline as a shithouse rat and the command presence of a cheerleading team coach.

Here is all anyone ever needs to know about the filthy lowlife cocksucker Junebug Bush...

Next.

Your post was interesting untill you tried to say Katrina caused the housing bubble to break.... the april fools joke is on me. ha ha ha you got me.....

 

[JRK]

Bush was such a profligate spender and warmonger that Obama had to continue his policies. Now we not only have a bloated military with bases all over the world, we have social programs we cannot possibly pay for, a health care system run by bureaucrats and insurance companies, and an economy with ilttle hope of recovery.

The good news is that gay activists have made a pretty good run at nullifying the will of the people via the courts.

Democrats refer to these things as progress.

GWB in some ways is a blue dog democrat. It is without question the most baffling part of the hate the left had had for him, a hate with passion I might add.
But
Compared to BHO he is as conservative as they come. Why is it we keep blaming GWB for the wars?
On 1/27/2003 Hans Blix made it clear Saddam was lying, had 6500 munitions deemed WMDs missing and had claimed he was in possession of a large stock pile of Anthrax.
Saddam had had 18 months to comply. After 9-11 was this country ready to take another chance?
The answer was no then and with the same events ever to occur again we would do the same.
One other item them press has never reported on. Al Qaeda was in Iraq in 2002 setting up base

there is a huge difference in a 162 billion dollar deficit as it compares to 1.4 trillion

Spending 2.7 trillion vs 3.8

What the fuck is wrong with you stooge. Saddam was a Sunni. Bin Laden and al Qaeda are Shiite.

Who the fuck are you? John McCain?

al Qaeda was in Iraq because Bush let them in.

Bush a Democrat???? So if he's a disaster, he must be a Democrat? Sorry, the Republicans own this one. Bush followed their policies perfectly. If anything, he was more like Reagan.

I do not recall stating OBL was ever inIraq
stooge?
now that is the first sign you have o idea of what your talking about
The GOP owns what?
be specific now

 

[zeke]

Do you miss Saddam?[/QUOTE]

Yes. Along with a lot if Iraqis.

Did you ever notice that the country of Iraq just worked better when Saddam ran it?
How many IEDs were let off every day in Iraq when Saddam ran it? How much oil did Iraq produce when Saddam ran it? How many religious mixed neighborhoods were there in Iraq when Saddam ran it? How much electricity was available every day when Saddam ran Iraq?

And just what the fuk did Saddam do to you personally to make you want to waste billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives?

really?
The why is it we spent billions trying to get him to behave?
the UN stated in 2003 that he had over 6500 munitions missing classified as WMDS

Update 27 January 2003

what did Saddam to to me?
All he had to do was become part of the solution after invading Kuwait
His behavior as well as paying KIDS to kill them selves in the name of terror killed many innocent people as well as many brave coalition troops
Saddam Hussein was the problem
for the record 60% of the dems in congress voted for the removal of Saddam by the use of force
10/2002

war sucks

I take it that Saddam did nothing to YOU that would make you want to waste lives and dollars. About the best answer you have is that you were as stupid as the Democrats when it came to evaluating and believing the reasons used to go to war. And you are proud of that ignorance? Why?

But you were not in Kuwait. Or even in the service. Or have any loved ones in the service.
You are just a big war supporter when you have nothing to lose. Is that about right?

And Saddam did nothing to you personally and the country of Iraq ran a lot better when Saddam was ruling it.

And we got absolutley nothing positive for all the lives and all the billions of dollars wasted.

But you supported the war in Iraq. Fool.

 

[lynn63]

47 per cent of Americans "If its free its for me!" We have 150 million lead sinkers holding the economy down, meanwhile Obama & Co are out trolling for more like them to bring here. "Nothing to see here!"Just some more undocumented Democrats that's all. 'Move along now!"
Anyone who cannot see the unrestrained Treason that has been rampant over the last fifty months is blind.

In Arizona we have the same problem with many empty business buildings and strip malls vacant. Until I see them being occupied by new business owners, the economy will have improved.

 

[Truthmatters]

so becuase your area overbuilt in a false economy built by Bush you think it will return?


your not making any sense

 

[Truthmatters]

It is a very simple question
we blame W on everything
yet we were doing fine in 2007 with the last GOP budget
5 years later we have shut down tours to the white-house
why?

Read a book, man.

The cascading failure of the big banks is well documented both by leaning right AND leaning left economists.

Both essentially agree that the dramatic increases in debt laden money attatched to sub prime mortgages were the root cause of the economic meltdown.

And that was GWB fault why?
what was he or for that matter congress run by the dems suppose to do to stop it?

watch and learn if you have the courage
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM]Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown - YouTube[/ame]

SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers
Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2007-190
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.

In addition, the Commission also voted to issue




The Bush SEC held back the broker rules for the banks for 8 long years.

they refused to impliment the full GLBact so the banks could get what they wanted

 

[JRK]

Read a book, man.

The cascading failure of the big banks is well documented both by leaning right AND leaning left economists.

Both essentially agree that the dramatic increases in debt laden money attatched to sub prime mortgages were the root cause of the economic meltdown.

And that was GWB fault why?
what was he or for that matter congress run by the dems suppose to do to stop it?

watch and learn if you have the courage
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM]Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown - YouTube[/ame]

SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers
Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2007-190
Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.

In addition, the Commission also voted to issue




The Bush SEC held back the broker rules for the banks for 8 long years.

they refused to impliment the full GLBact so the banks could get what they wanted

What does that have to do with BOA loaning Joe Blow monies he could not pay back on inflated assets?