"Weed doesn't hurt anyone" Ohio family executed due to weed operations

[JWBooth]

And if weed was legal, this shit wouldn't have happened
Logic FAIL

Yep

 

[Skylar]

We have too many dopeheads now. Legalizing it will make it worse. Colorado is suffering more auto deaths as a result. Here I smell it often in the stores so the boneheads are driving loaded.

Nah, there are actually too many Alcoholics and legal prescription dopeheads. No one has ever overdosed on Marijuana. However, millions die from alcohol poisoning, liver disease, and prescription drug overdoses.

Marijuana has even been found to possess numerous health benefits. No one dies from 'too much' Marijuana. It's time to evolve and make its use an adult decision. The time has come.

Pot turns people into planters. You are delusional. The real problem with it is people think they are fine or smarter when they are stoned. Nobody thinks alcohol makes them smarter. Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold. Stoners eventually want the bigger high too so your analogy is false.

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who changed dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Pot does 'stay' in your system- but only at the blood level- after the period of intoxication persons are not impaired- any more than a person who had been drinking 12 hours before is still intoxicated.

I have known far, far more people who have changed due to drinking alcohol. And sadly, drunks are more likely to get mean and violent than stoners.

The only one in danger from a pot head is the poor bastard standing between them and the doritos.

 

[ABikerSailor]

We have too many dopeheads now. Legalizing it will make it worse. Colorado is suffering more auto deaths as a result. Here I smell it often in the stores so the boneheads are driving loaded.

Nah, there are actually too many Alcoholics and legal prescription dopeheads. No one has ever overdosed on Marijuana. However, millions die from alcohol poisoning, liver disease, and prescription drug overdoses.

Marijuana has even been found to possess numerous health benefits. No one dies from 'too much' Marijuana. It's time to evolve and make its use an adult decision. The time has come.

Pot turns people into planters. You are delusional. The real problem with it is people think they are fine or smarter when they are stoned. Nobody thinks alcohol makes them smarter. Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold. Stoners eventually want the bigger high too so your analogy is false.

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who changed dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Pot does 'stay' in your system- but only at the blood level- after the period of intoxication persons are not impaired- any more than a person who had been drinking 12 hours before is still intoxicated.

I have known far, far more people who have changed due to drinking alcohol. And sadly, drunks are more likely to get mean and violent than stoners.

Agreed. I used to work at a biker bar called Boondocks (it's not there anymore), and the owner would let people smoke behind the bar in the parking lot. When it came to customers, I preferred people who had been smoking to people who had been drinking or using other substances.

The marijuana smokers were ALWAYS polite, tipped well, and never caused problems. People who drank and smoked were fairly well behaved, but the people who drank only, or drank and used other things were the ones I had to watch for problems.

 

[Iceweasel]

We have too many dopeheads now. Legalizing it will make it worse. Colorado is suffering more auto deaths as a result. Here I smell it often in the stores so the boneheads are driving loaded.

Nah, there are actually too many Alcoholics and legal prescription dopeheads. No one has ever overdosed on Marijuana. However, millions die from alcohol poisoning, liver disease, and prescription drug overdoses.

Marijuana has even been found to possess numerous health benefits. No one dies from 'too much' Marijuana. It's time to evolve and make its use an adult decision. The time has come.

Pot turns people into planters. You are delusional. The real problem with it is people think they are fine or smarter when they are stoned. Nobody thinks alcohol makes them smarter. Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold. Stoners eventually want the bigger high too so your analogy is false.

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

 

[Iceweasel]

Nah, there are actually too many Alcoholics and legal prescription dopeheads. No one has ever overdosed on Marijuana. However, millions die from alcohol poisoning, liver disease, and prescription drug overdoses.

Marijuana has even been found to possess numerous health benefits. No one dies from 'too much' Marijuana. It's time to evolve and make its use an adult decision. The time has come.

Pot turns people into planters. You are delusional. The real problem with it is people think they are fine or smarter when they are stoned. Nobody thinks alcohol makes them smarter. Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold. Stoners eventually want the bigger high too so your analogy is false.

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who changed dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Pot does 'stay' in your system- but only at the blood level- after the period of intoxication persons are not impaired- any more than a person who had been drinking 12 hours before is still intoxicated.

I have known far, far more people who have changed due to drinking alcohol. And sadly, drunks are more likely to get mean and violent than stoners.

Agreed. I used to work at a biker bar called Boondocks (it's not there anymore), and the owner would let people smoke behind the bar in the parking lot. When it came to customers, I preferred people who had been smoking to people who had been drinking or using other substances.

The marijuana smokers were ALWAYS polite, tipped well, and never caused problems. People who drank and smoked were fairly well behaved, but the people who drank only, or drank and used other things were the ones I had to watch for problems.

That's because the potheads were paranoid.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Nah, there are actually too many Alcoholics and legal prescription dopeheads. No one has ever overdosed on Marijuana. However, millions die from alcohol poisoning, liver disease, and prescription drug overdoses.

Marijuana has even been found to possess numerous health benefits. No one dies from 'too much' Marijuana. It's time to evolve and make its use an adult decision. The time has come.

Pot turns people into planters. You are delusional. The real problem with it is people think they are fine or smarter when they are stoned. Nobody thinks alcohol makes them smarter. Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold. Stoners eventually want the bigger high too so your analogy is false.

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

You're right. Intoxicants can change how a person reacts to the world.

In my experience, people who are stoned are very low key, mellow and polite. Saw a lot of that working at a biker bar called Boondocks, because people were allowed to smoke in the back parking lot. People who smoked didn't do things stoned that they wouldn't normally do anyway.

People who get drunk lose a lot of their inhibitions and are more willing to do things that they know are wrong, or things they wouldn't normally do. You hear MANY stories of people who got drunk the night before and did something stupid, or took someone home they normally wouldn't have.

As far as the personality change? Alcohol is a lot more dangerous, as well as can change a person's personality for the worse.

 

[Skylar]

Nah, there are actually too many Alcoholics and legal prescription dopeheads. No one has ever overdosed on Marijuana. However, millions die from alcohol poisoning, liver disease, and prescription drug overdoses.

Marijuana has even been found to possess numerous health benefits. No one dies from 'too much' Marijuana. It's time to evolve and make its use an adult decision. The time has come.

Pot turns people into planters. You are delusional. The real problem with it is people think they are fine or smarter when they are stoned. Nobody thinks alcohol makes them smarter. Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold. Stoners eventually want the bigger high too so your analogy is false.

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

 

[Iceweasel]

Pot turns people into planters. You are delusional. The real problem with it is people think they are fine or smarter when they are stoned. Nobody thinks alcohol makes them smarter. Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold. Stoners eventually want the bigger high too so your analogy is false.

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

 

[Skylar]

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

Then what do you mean by 'dangerous'? There's no associated violence. There's no risk of death, overdose or physical addiction. There's not even an appreciably higher rate of lung cancer.

And lets say you're right about 'focus'. And then?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

Then what do you mean by 'dangerous'? There's no associated violence. There's no risk of death, overdose or physical addiction. There's not even an appreciably higher rate of lung cancer.

And lets say you're right about 'focus'. And then?

Actually, I've noticed that on certain strains of Sativa, my "focus" isn't limited to just the job at hand, but it seems to expand and that I notice things that I normally wouldn't notice while stoned.

And, the expansion of my focus seems to increase my creativity.

Yeah..............I'd like to know what IceWeasel means by "dangerous" as well. From what they've posted, their knowledge of what cannabis does is kinda limited.

 

[Contumacious]

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

Quote one single ,

multicenter, double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study demonstrating that marihuana is harmful.

 

[Skylar]

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

Quote one single ,

multicenter, double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study demonstrating that marihuana is harmful.

It doesn't matter if Marijuana is harmful. Cheese burgers are harmful. Nitrates in meats are harmful. The question is, is it MORE harmful than our legal standard of acceptable harm? With that standard set with Alcohol.

And the answer is 'hell no'.

 

[bripat9643]

And if weed was legal, this shit wouldn't have happened
Logic FAIL

In Ohio possession is a misdemeanor ticket offense. You think all these people were killed over an offense like Jay walking?

Do you understand there is a difference between having a couple of blunts on you and growing it and the black market competition?

Do you think that will go away with legalization?

Yes it will.

 

[Iceweasel]

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

Quote one single ,

multicenter, double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study demonstrating that marihuana is harmful.

I said I've known people, and not just a few, that changed drastically once they started up. What kind of study does that? You can deny it all you want, but people know better. Potheads live in a alternative reality.

 

[Iceweasel]

It doesn't matter if Marijuana is harmful. Cheese burgers are harmful. Nitrates in meats are harmful. The question is, is it MORE harmful than our legal standard of acceptable harm? With that standard set with Alcohol.

And the answer is 'hell no'.

Cheeseburgers don't turn you into a slow underachieving doorstop.

 

[Skylar]

It doesn't matter if Marijuana is harmful. Cheese burgers are harmful. Nitrates in meats are harmful. The question is, is it MORE harmful than our legal standard of acceptable harm? With that standard set with Alcohol.

And the answer is 'hell no'.

Cheeseburgers don't turn you into a slow underachieving doorstop.

They can make you fat, clog your heart, raise your closteral, and cause cancer.

All of which are far more harmful than weed. There is no credible standard of criminalization than harm. The 'harm to self' you describe is slow, slow pitch. And well below the threshold of harm caused by other legal drugs. The 'harm to others' is virtually nil.

Making any argument for criminalization an illogical, self contradictory mess.

 

[TNHarley]

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

Quote one single ,

multicenter, double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study demonstrating that marihuana is harmful.

I said I've known people, and not just a few, that changed drastically once they started up. What kind of study does that? You can deny it all you want, but people know better. Potheads live in a alternative reality.

I smoke all the time. I'm not delusional and very responsible.
My point is, some people let pot run their lives. Just like with any other substance. Some people are just weak..

 

[Syriusly]

LOL....'pot turns people into planters'.....an idiotic statement even by your usual low standards.

"Most people have no problem with alcohol but many times more do it, it's commonly sold."- and most people have no problem with marijuana even how its commonly sold now.

Treat pot exactly the same as alcohol- regulate it, tax it, criminalize dangerous behavior (i.e. driving under the influence).

Pot stays in your system. I've known people who change dramatically when taking up pot. Booze doesn't do that to you unless you go full alky.

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

Speaking of lack of ability to focus- are you blaming pot for yours?

You claimed Pot was more dangerous- Skylar pointed out multiple reasons how pot is less dangerous than alcohol

1. violence
2. Overdose
3. Addiction
4. Debilitating
5. Nasty physical withdrawal symptoms
6. Can't physically kill you.

And could only respond to 'violence'- and then with a non-response.

You have yet to come up with any reason why you think Pot is more dangerous other than 'Icey says so'

 

[Syriusly]

It doesn't matter if Marijuana is harmful. Cheese burgers are harmful. Nitrates in meats are harmful. The question is, is it MORE harmful than our legal standard of acceptable harm? With that standard set with Alcohol.

And the answer is 'hell no'.

Cheeseburgers don't turn you into a slow underachieving doorstop.

True story:

Of the people I went to high school with virtually all of the high achievers smoked pot.

All of them went on to graduate from college, all to comparative success in life.

Frankly you are incredibly ignorant.

 

[Syriusly]

Alcohol absolutely changes people. Usually for the funner. Occasionally for the more violent. Pot is far, far less dangerous than alcohol.

By any semblance of logic, if the speed limit is 65....then going 64 would also be legal. We've established our level of acceptable harm in a drug with alcohol. Logically, anything LESS harmful would also be legal. And weed is obviously less dangerous than alcohol.

No, that's not what I meant. Any intoxicant changes you while you are on it. Pot alters the way your mind thinks, people's personalities change. THAT's why it's more dangerous.

Very slowly and very insignificantly. With no appreciable increase in violence. While alcohol and violence go together like peas and carrots.

Alcohol is far, far more dangerous. Its far more closely tied to violence, you can OD on it quite easily, its addictive, can be utterly debilitating, and has some of the worse withdrawal symptoms of any drug. Alcohol DTs can *literally* kill you.

Weed has no appreciable association with increased violence (with an excellent argument that it quells violence), you can't overdose on it, its no where near as debilitating, has no appreciable withdrawal symptoms and isn't addictive. It is habit forming.....but so are cupcakes and porn.

I didn't mention violence. See how this works? You saw an entirely different conversation. Potheads lose the ability to focus.

Quote one single ,

multicenter, double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study demonstrating that marihuana is harmful.

I said I've known people, and not just a few, that changed drastically once they started up. What kind of study does that? You can deny it all you want, but people know better. Potheads live in a alternative reality.

"People" being Icehead and his faith in his opinion.

Icehead's opposition to marijuana is faith based- i.e. he takes it on faith that anyone who disagrees with him is wrong.