Shusha
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I think we all know what the reason is for Israel refusing to 'free' Gaza... Security... My problem is that this 'reason', I'm avoiding using the word 'excuse' here...
Security is a very GOOD reason, in fact the ONLY reason, for a nation to take military action against another entity (in this case, not quite a nation, though it has fulfilled all the requirements to be one, imo). Why do you call it an "excuse"? You do realize that Israeli citizens are, in reality, being threatened by the belligerent acts committed by Hamas, do you not?
Unfortunately, I can't agree that there is unilateral control within their own state...
Yes, sorry, I don't agree... Israel still controls land, air and seas of Gaza... Israel Has done a pretty good job of "bombing the shit out of them" over the years... Israel regularly has military incursions into Gaza... Israel regularly fires across border into Gaza...
You have yet to digest the difference between internal control and control over borders shared with another nation. Israel controls nothing internally. You've fallen back into the old, common talking points instead of thinking this through and responding in a more detailed and objective fashion.
Israel has been exceedingly restrained in its military action against Hamas. Israel does make military incursions into Gaza, as a response high levels of belligerency, such as increased rockets or tunnel activity. And yes, Israel does fire across the border, in response to belligerent actions by Hamas. See the common theme here? Hamas acts with belligerency, threatening the security of Israel's citizens and sovereignty. Israel responds. Cause and effect.
I have never said that Israel doesn't need to defend itself... I am simply stating that having an allied force in Gaza not only monitoring but also being able to 'defend' Israel would make 'press releases' for more favorable for Israel.
My point being that by removing rights and agency from Israel, uniquely of all the world's nations, you are actually undermining Israel rather than supporting Israel. You are creating a sense of justification for why Israel is not capable of holding all of the normal rights of other nations. I suggest that rather than do so, you support Israel's right to her own agency and to defend herself. And not require others to do it for her.
Cessation of hostilities would be a very good first step but I really do not see that happening...
Nor do I. Why? Because Hamas and the people of Gaza who support the ideology which Hamas built itself on, are not invested in their own future and the viability of an independent and prosperous nation. They are still rabidly focused on Israel's destruction. There will be no end to the conflict as long as the people of Gaza hold this ideology. There CAN be no end to the conflict while one party wishes the destruction of the other.