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Cheney should go to prison for ordering torture
Cheney was right on target. The three master terrorists were uncooperative. When asked about further terrorist attacks, they answered "soon, you will know." They were made uncomfortable and terrorist attacks were thwarted that saved thousands of american civilian lives.
CNSNews.com - CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
Khalid Sheik Mohammad, a top al Qaeda leader who divulged information -- after being waterboarded -- that allowed the U.S. government to stop a planned terrorist attack on Los Angeles. (CNSNews.com) - The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of enhanced techniques of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, Soon, you will know.
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the Second Wave-- planned to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into a building in Los Angeles.
KSM was the mastermind of the first hijacked-airliner attacks on the United States, which struck the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Northern Virginia on Sept. 11, 2001.
After KSM was captured by the United States, he was not initially cooperative with CIA interrogators. Nor was another top al Qaeda leader named Zubaydah. KSM, Zubaydah, and a third terrorist named Nashiri were the only three persons ever subjected to waterboarding by the CIA. (Additional terrorist detainees were subjected to other enhanced techniques that included slapping, sleep deprivation, dietary limitations, and temporary confinement to small spaces -- but not to water-boarding.)
This was because the CIA imposed very tight restrictions on the use of waterboarding. The waterboard, which is the most intense of the CIA interrogation techniques, is subject to additional limits, explained the May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo. It may be used on a High Value Detainee only if the CIA has credible intelligence that a terrorist attack is imminent; substantial and credible indicators that the subject has actionable intelligence that can prevent, disrupt or deny this attack; and [o]ther interrogation methods have failed to elicit this information within the perceived time limit for preventing the attack.
The quotations in this part of the Justice memo were taken from an Aug. 2, 2004 letter that CIA Acting General Counsel John A. Rizzo sent to the Justice Departments Office of Legal Counsel.
Before they were subjected to enhanced techniques of interrogation that included waterboarding, KSM and Zubaydah were not only uncooperative but also appeared contemptuous of the will of the American people to defend themselves.
In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques, says the Justice Department memo. Both KSM and Zubaydah had expressed their belief that the general US population was weak, lacked resilience, and would be unable to do what was necessary to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals. Indeed, before the CIA used enhanced techniques in its interrogation of KSM, KSM resisted giving any answers to questions about future attacks, simply noting, Soon you will know.
After he was subjected to the waterboard technique, KSM became cooperative, providing intelligence that led to the capture of key al Qaeda allies and, eventually, the closing down of an East Asian terrorist cell that had been tasked with carrying out the 9/11-style attack on Los Angeles
CNS???? I live in L.A. and I never heard this story. Don't you tea baggers ever quote any reals news sources??? What about the L.A. Times or ABC or CNN??? Nope. It always has to be Fox or some other whacked out conservative news source.
CNS???? I live in L.A. and I never heard this story. Don't you tea baggers ever quote any reals news sources??? What about the L.A. Times or ABC or CNN??? Nope. It always has to be Fox or some other whacked out conservative news source.
The better question is "why do the other "news" outlets buy into the Obama propaganda, like renaming the WOT, and terrorists"? What will they do when the dems lose in 2010 and 2012? At the rate they are losing ratings they may not even be around that long. So why criticize the most popular news outlet? During the Gulf War, guess which station was preferred by the troops? Liberalism isn't taking, but keep drinking that cool-aid.
The MSM is pro government no matter who is in office and it did a spectacular job of supporting the bush admin's bullshit. CNS is a news source like Michael Vick is an international Animal Welfare spokesperson.
CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - White House forcefully responds to Cheney « - Blogs from CNN.com
"There are numerous…public statements that explicitly state we are at war," writes Pfeifer. "The difference is this: President Obama doesn't need to beat his chest to prove it, and – unlike the last Administration – we are not at war with a tactic ("terrorism"), we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies. And we will prosecute that war as long as the American people are endangered."
Can this guy just go away? I heard there was going to be a remake of the Addams Family. Maybe Uncle Fester can get a part in the movie? That would keep him busy for a while!
Exerpt:
This is all quite mad even in Obama’s terms. He sends 30,000 troops to fight terror overseas, yet if any terrorists come to attack us here, they are magically transformed from enemy into defendant.
The logic is perverse. If we find Abdulmutallab in an al-Qaeda training camp in Yemen, where he is merely preparing for a terror attack, we snuff him out with a Predator — no judge, no jury, no qualms. But if we catch him in the United States in the very act of mass murder, he instantly acquires protection not just from execution by drone but even from interrogation.
(more...)
War? What War? by Charles Krauthammer on National Review Online
Anyone who uses "supposedly-liberal NYT" (emphasis on "supposedly") when describing the NYT is not living in reality...
Cheney was right on target. The three master terrorists were uncooperative. When asked about further terrorist attacks, they answered "soon, you will know." They were made uncomfortable and terrorist attacks were thwarted that saved thousands of american civilian lives.
CNSNews.com - CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
Khalid Sheik Mohammad, a top al Qaeda leader who divulged information -- after being waterboarded -- that allowed the U.S. government to stop a planned terrorist attack on Los Angeles. (CNSNews.com) - The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of enhanced techniques of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, Soon, you will know.
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the Second Wave-- planned to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into a building in Los Angeles.
KSM was the mastermind of the first hijacked-airliner attacks on the United States, which struck the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Northern Virginia on Sept. 11, 2001.
After KSM was captured by the United States, he was not initially cooperative with CIA interrogators. Nor was another top al Qaeda leader named Zubaydah. KSM, Zubaydah, and a third terrorist named Nashiri were the only three persons ever subjected to waterboarding by the CIA. (Additional terrorist detainees were subjected to other enhanced techniques that included slapping, sleep deprivation, dietary limitations, and temporary confinement to small spaces -- but not to water-boarding.)
This was because the CIA imposed very tight restrictions on the use of waterboarding. The waterboard, which is the most intense of the CIA interrogation techniques, is subject to additional limits, explained the May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo. It may be used on a High Value Detainee only if the CIA has credible intelligence that a terrorist attack is imminent; substantial and credible indicators that the subject has actionable intelligence that can prevent, disrupt or deny this attack; and [o]ther interrogation methods have failed to elicit this information within the perceived time limit for preventing the attack.
The quotations in this part of the Justice memo were taken from an Aug. 2, 2004 letter that CIA Acting General Counsel John A. Rizzo sent to the Justice Departments Office of Legal Counsel.
Before they were subjected to enhanced techniques of interrogation that included waterboarding, KSM and Zubaydah were not only uncooperative but also appeared contemptuous of the will of the American people to defend themselves.
In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques, says the Justice Department memo. Both KSM and Zubaydah had expressed their belief that the general US population was weak, lacked resilience, and would be unable to do what was necessary to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals. Indeed, before the CIA used enhanced techniques in its interrogation of KSM, KSM resisted giving any answers to questions about future attacks, simply noting, Soon you will know.
After he was subjected to the waterboard technique, KSM became cooperative, providing intelligence that led to the capture of key al Qaeda allies and, eventually, the closing down of an East Asian terrorist cell that had been tasked with carrying out the 9/11-style attack on Los Angeles
CNS???? I live in L.A. and I never heard this story. Don't you tea baggers ever quote any reals news sources??? What about the L.A. Times or ABC or CNN??? Nope. It always has to be Fox or some other whacked out conservative news source.
L.A. Times or ABC or CNN. you wear colored glass's - thought so. living in LA is a contradiction in terms. everybody is packin up and leaving. do the gangs there get taxpayer $$$$ no wonder your belly up. best hurry up and get your bail out. or do you want Osama/Pelosi to own cal ????
Anyone who uses "supposedly-liberal NYT" (emphasis on "supposedly") when describing the NYT is not living in reality...
No, those are the people who think just about every media source except Fox and a few conservative rags are liberally-biased news sources. The rest of us understand that most of the MSM is biased towards their bottom line, which doesn't really discriminate against one ideology or the other. And like I said earlier, the Times let Judith Miller pretty much act as stenographer for Cheney and co.
CNS???? I live in L.A. and I never heard this story. Don't you tea baggers ever quote any reals news sources??? What about the L.A. Times or ABC or CNN??? Nope. It always has to be Fox or some other whacked out conservative news source.
The better question is "why do the other "news" outlets buy into the Obama propaganda, like renaming the WOT, and terrorists"? What will they do when the dems lose in 2010 and 2012? At the rate they are losing ratings they may not even be around that long. So why criticize the most popular news outlet? During the Gulf War, guess which station was preferred by the troops? Liberalism isn't taking, but keep drinking that cool-aid.
Wtf? The MSM is pro government no matter who is in office and it did a spectacular job of supporting the bush admin's bullshit. CNS is a news source like Michael Vick is an international Animal Welfare spokesperson.
CNSNews.com endeavors to fairly present all legitimate sides of a story and debunk popular, albeit incorrect, myths about cultural and policy issues.
CNSNews.com has a full staff of credentialed journalists at its world headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia, staffs full time news bureaus on in Jerusalem and the Pacific Rim, and works with credentialed correspondents in London, Paris, Moscow and Nairobi. In addition to news, CNSNews.com is proud to present a full slate of commentaries by some of the brightest minds and sharpest wits in the nation, and a full stable of cartoonists to provides you with a morning political chuckle.
CNSNews.com is a division of the Media Research Center, a not-for-profit 501 (c)(3) organization. Like National Public Radio and the Public Broadcasting System, CNSNews.com is able to provide its services and information to the public at no cost, thanks to the generous support of our thousands of donors and their tax-deductible contributions. However, unlike NPR or PBS, CNSNews.com does not accept any federal tax money for its operations.
Cheney should go to prison for ordering torture
Cheney was right on target. The three master terrorists were uncooperative. When asked about further terrorist attacks, they answered "soon, you will know." They were made uncomfortable and terrorist attacks were thwarted that saved thousands of american civilian lives.
CNSNews.com - CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
Khalid Sheik Mohammad, a top al Qaeda leader who divulged information -- after being waterboarded -- that allowed the U.S. government to stop a planned terrorist attack on Los Angeles. (CNSNews.com) - The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of enhanced techniques of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, Soon, you will know.
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the Second Wave-- planned to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into a building in Los Angeles.
KSM was the mastermind of the first hijacked-airliner attacks on the United States, which struck the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Northern Virginia on Sept. 11, 2001.
After KSM was captured by the United States, he was not initially cooperative with CIA interrogators. Nor was another top al Qaeda leader named Zubaydah. KSM, Zubaydah, and a third terrorist named Nashiri were the only three persons ever subjected to waterboarding by the CIA. (Additional terrorist detainees were subjected to other enhanced techniques that included slapping, sleep deprivation, dietary limitations, and temporary confinement to small spaces -- but not to water-boarding.)
This was because the CIA imposed very tight restrictions on the use of waterboarding. The waterboard, which is the most intense of the CIA interrogation techniques, is subject to additional limits, explained the May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo. It may be used on a High Value Detainee only if the CIA has credible intelligence that a terrorist attack is imminent; substantial and credible indicators that the subject has actionable intelligence that can prevent, disrupt or deny this attack; and [o]ther interrogation methods have failed to elicit this information within the perceived time limit for preventing the attack.
The quotations in this part of the Justice memo were taken from an Aug. 2, 2004 letter that CIA Acting General Counsel John A. Rizzo sent to the Justice Departments Office of Legal Counsel.
Before they were subjected to enhanced techniques of interrogation that included waterboarding, KSM and Zubaydah were not only uncooperative but also appeared contemptuous of the will of the American people to defend themselves.
In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques, says the Justice Department memo. Both KSM and Zubaydah had expressed their belief that the general US population was weak, lacked resilience, and would be unable to do what was necessary to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals. Indeed, before the CIA used enhanced techniques in its interrogation of KSM, KSM resisted giving any answers to questions about future attacks, simply noting, Soon you will know.
After he was subjected to the waterboard technique, KSM became cooperative, providing intelligence that led to the capture of key al Qaeda allies and, eventually, the closing down of an East Asian terrorist cell that had been tasked with carrying out the 9/11-style attack on Los Angeles
CNS???? I live in L.A. and I never heard this story. Don't you tea baggers ever quote any reals news sources??? What about the L.A. Times or ABC or CNN??? Nope. It always has to be Fox or some other whacked out conservative news source.
CNS???? I live in L.A. and I never heard this story. Don't you tea baggers ever quote any reals news sources??? What about the L.A. Times or ABC or CNN??? Nope. It always has to be Fox or some other whacked out conservative news source.
L.A. Times or ABC or CNN. you wear colored glass's - thought so. living in LA is a contradiction in terms. everybody is packin up and leaving. do the gangs there get taxpayer $$$$ no wonder your belly up. best hurry up and get your bail out. or do you want Osama/Pelosi to own cal ????
I don't have rose colored glasses. I was born and raised here and worked here for all of my adult life. My finances are good and I know nothing about gang members because I've never met any. And if we are going belly up, remember that we have a Republican governor.
In any case, all of that has nothing to do with you and the other bag heads watching only news that you like. As usual, you completely changed the subject. You need to ask yourself who is really wearing those rose colored glasses.
Hello?? Unfortunately, Syria is not very cooperative in providing that information.
Hello?? Unfortunately, Syria is not very cooperative in providing that information.
Hello?? Unfortunately, Syria is not very cooperative in providing that information.
That is laughable.
Hello?? Unfortunately, Syria is not very cooperative in providing that information.
That is laughable.
CNS???? I live in L.A. and I never heard this story. Don't you tea baggers ever quote any reals news sources??? What about the L.A. Times or ABC or CNN??? Nope. It always has to be Fox or some other whacked out conservative news source.
The better question is "why do the other "news" outlets buy into the Obama propaganda, like renaming the WOT, and terrorists"? What will they do when the dems lose in 2010 and 2012? At the rate they are losing ratings they may not even be around that long. So why criticize the most popular news outlet? During the Gulf War, guess which station was preferred by the troops? Liberalism isn't taking, but keep drinking that cool-aid.
Wtf? The MSM is pro government no matter who is in office and it did a spectacular job of supporting the bush admin's bullshit. CNS is a news source like Michael Vick is an international Animal Welfare spokesperson.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
Cheney was right on target. The three master terrorists were uncooperative. When asked about further terrorist attacks, they answered "soon, you will know." They were made uncomfortable and terrorist attacks were thwarted that saved thousands of american civilian lives.
CNSNews.com - CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack on Los Angeles
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
Khalid Sheik Mohammad, a top al Qaeda leader who divulged information -- after being waterboarded -- that allowed the U.S. government to stop a planned terrorist attack on Los Angeles. (CNSNews.com) - The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of enhanced techniques of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, Soon, you will know.
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the Second Wave-- planned to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into a building in Los Angeles.
KSM was the mastermind of the first hijacked-airliner attacks on the United States, which struck the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Northern Virginia on Sept. 11, 2001.
After KSM was captured by the United States, he was not initially cooperative with CIA interrogators. Nor was another top al Qaeda leader named Zubaydah. KSM, Zubaydah, and a third terrorist named Nashiri were the only three persons ever subjected to waterboarding by the CIA. (Additional terrorist detainees were subjected to other enhanced techniques that included slapping, sleep deprivation, dietary limitations, and temporary confinement to small spaces -- but not to water-boarding.)
This was because the CIA imposed very tight restrictions on the use of waterboarding. The waterboard, which is the most intense of the CIA interrogation techniques, is subject to additional limits, explained the May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo. It may be used on a High Value Detainee only if the CIA has credible intelligence that a terrorist attack is imminent; substantial and credible indicators that the subject has actionable intelligence that can prevent, disrupt or deny this attack; and [o]ther interrogation methods have failed to elicit this information within the perceived time limit for preventing the attack.
The quotations in this part of the Justice memo were taken from an Aug. 2, 2004 letter that CIA Acting General Counsel John A. Rizzo sent to the Justice Departments Office of Legal Counsel.
Before they were subjected to enhanced techniques of interrogation that included waterboarding, KSM and Zubaydah were not only uncooperative but also appeared contemptuous of the will of the American people to defend themselves.
In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques, says the Justice Department memo. Both KSM and Zubaydah had expressed their belief that the general US population was weak, lacked resilience, and would be unable to do what was necessary to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals. Indeed, before the CIA used enhanced techniques in its interrogation of KSM, KSM resisted giving any answers to questions about future attacks, simply noting, Soon you will know.
After he was subjected to the waterboard technique, KSM became cooperative, providing intelligence that led to the capture of key al Qaeda allies and, eventually, the closing down of an East Asian terrorist cell that had been tasked with carrying out the 9/11-style attack on Los Angeles
CNS???? I live in L.A. and I never heard this story. Don't you tea baggers ever quote any reals news sources??? What about the L.A. Times or ABC or CNN??? Nope. It always has to be Fox or some other whacked out conservative news source.
I am not quoting CNS, I am quoting CIA documents, DOD documents, and the CIA Director.
You see media outlets should never be news sources. They are supposed to report what news sources say.
The problem is that CNN, the LA Times, and ABC, have a liberal agenda, so they are going to ignore reporting news that conflicts with their agenda.
Until I posted that the number two of Hussein's airforce, Saada, and the head of Israeli intelligence said that Hussein's WMD were transfered to Syria you probably never even knew these people existed. Why?? Because the liberal media news outlets refused to report what they said.
You should always look for internal documentation. Who in the news souce is actually saying what.
