What are your chances...?

[Skull Pilot]

SO what? I really don't care that criminals kill each other to the extent they do here.

All I care about is that law abiding people have the right to defend themselves from the criminals that we don't lock up

But British people have the right to defend themselves too. Just not necessarily with a gun. But then hey, why do they need a gun? They're less likely to be killed anyway.

The problem is you've gone through all the arguments, been found wanting, then you come back with the simplistic "I want a gun", but you don't want to see the damage that guns have on your society, and that actually having a gun makes things WORSE than if you couldn't get a gun.

It's not guns that damage society it's criminals who use guns in the commission of crimes.

you want to ignore the fact that 3/4 or gun shot victims and 3/4 of all shooters have prior criminal histories, or that taking gang murders out of the equation lowers our murder rate to about 3000 per year

It's just not true that most murders are committed by previously law abiding people who happen to own guns who went berserk one day

we don't have a gun problem. We have other problems that contribute to our high crime rate

Sure, it's criminals. Now here's the problem, a criminal with a gun is far more a threat than a criminal without one. Also, a society that basically breeds criminals isn't a good society and has lots of criminals.

I'm not ignoring that many of the murderers had previous ARRESTS (criminal histories, as you put it), but then you want to take gangs out of the picture? Why is that? Gangs are still a part of society, and cause massive problems because the US breeds people into gangs.

I have spoken about this before and the biggest problem is often that the politicians won't do anything about sorting out the problems that exist within society, which causes more crime and criminals. It's an attitude which I hit every time I debate this. The whole "we're individuals, we should do anything", it's a circular argument which never gets anything solved.

We need guns because society is danger - society is dangerous because we refuse to do anything to solve it - because we don't solve it we need guns.

People who commit crimes with guns are an extreme minority of the population. I hardly call that "breeding criminals"

The fact is society as a whole is not in danger. There are isolated pockets of extremely high crime and murder in this country in mostly urban areas.

Yes, people who commit crimes with guns are a minority of the population. People who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam are an even smaller portion of the Muslim world. And yet the right feels the need to put all Muslims in the same basket and declare them all dangerous.

Yes, there are areas of high crime and society doesn't seem to have the desire to solve any of these problems, just shove them under the carpet, right? You see a problem, er... well... um... nah, can't be bothered to solve that problem, nor that one. But hey, oh, there's a problem that we just made for ourselves by invading Iraq, er... yeah, we need to solve that one because 9 people died, but the problem where 10,000 people die, nah, that's not a problem. 9 people is people, 10,000 people is just a statistic, right?

Ah so this is just more 2 dimensional partisan thinking on your part. The right this the right that yada yada.

Before you start whining to me about Iraq I'll inform you that I have from day one never supported it unlike the democrats in congress who did.




So if society doesn't seem to want to solve them what's your problem with it?

I really do not give an iota of a fuck if a bunch of piece of shit gang bangers in some urban shit hole kill each other.

 

[frigidweirdo]

But British people have the right to defend themselves too. Just not necessarily with a gun. But then hey, why do they need a gun? They're less likely to be killed anyway.

The problem is you've gone through all the arguments, been found wanting, then you come back with the simplistic "I want a gun", but you don't want to see the damage that guns have on your society, and that actually having a gun makes things WORSE than if you couldn't get a gun.

It's not guns that damage society it's criminals who use guns in the commission of crimes.

you want to ignore the fact that 3/4 or gun shot victims and 3/4 of all shooters have prior criminal histories, or that taking gang murders out of the equation lowers our murder rate to about 3000 per year

It's just not true that most murders are committed by previously law abiding people who happen to own guns who went berserk one day

we don't have a gun problem. We have other problems that contribute to our high crime rate

Sure, it's criminals. Now here's the problem, a criminal with a gun is far more a threat than a criminal without one. Also, a society that basically breeds criminals isn't a good society and has lots of criminals.

I'm not ignoring that many of the murderers had previous ARRESTS (criminal histories, as you put it), but then you want to take gangs out of the picture? Why is that? Gangs are still a part of society, and cause massive problems because the US breeds people into gangs.

I have spoken about this before and the biggest problem is often that the politicians won't do anything about sorting out the problems that exist within society, which causes more crime and criminals. It's an attitude which I hit every time I debate this. The whole "we're individuals, we should do anything", it's a circular argument which never gets anything solved.

We need guns because society is danger - society is dangerous because we refuse to do anything to solve it - because we don't solve it we need guns.

People who commit crimes with guns are an extreme minority of the population. I hardly call that "breeding criminals"

The fact is society as a whole is not in danger. There are isolated pockets of extremely high crime and murder in this country in mostly urban areas.

Yes, people who commit crimes with guns are a minority of the population. People who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam are an even smaller portion of the Muslim world. And yet the right feels the need to put all Muslims in the same basket and declare them all dangerous.

Yes, there are areas of high crime and society doesn't seem to have the desire to solve any of these problems, just shove them under the carpet, right? You see a problem, er... well... um... nah, can't be bothered to solve that problem, nor that one. But hey, oh, there's a problem that we just made for ourselves by invading Iraq, er... yeah, we need to solve that one because 9 people died, but the problem where 10,000 people die, nah, that's not a problem. 9 people is people, 10,000 people is just a statistic, right?

Ah so this is just more 2 dimensional partisan thinking on your part. The right this the right that yada yada.

Before you start whining to me about Iraq I'll inform you that I have from day one never supported it unlike the democrats in congress who did.




So if society doesn't seem to want to solve them what's your problem with it?

I really do not give an iota of a fuck if a bunch of piece of shit gang bangers in some urban shit hole kill each other.

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

 

[Missourian]

...of dying in the US

Clearly there's an issue here, and it's not Islamic terrorism.

The right say we can't take guns away from people, but they do want to prevent Muslims getting into the US. Why? Er... because one isn't them and the other is, probably.

Medical errors: 250,000 (Medical errors may be 3rd leading cause of death in U.S. - CNN.com)

 

[frigidweirdo]

...of dying in the US

Clearly there's an issue here, and it's not Islamic terrorism.

The right say we can't take guns away from people, but they do want to prevent Muslims getting into the US. Why? Er... because one isn't them and the other is, probably.

Medical errors: 250,000 (Medical errors may be 3rd leading cause of death in U.S. - CNN.com)

Wow.

Kontinental Hockey League

Wed 4th January
Barys 3 - 0 Spartak Moscow

Yep, my information has as much to do with this topic as your information. In other words, NOTHING.

 

[blackhawk]

Where do things like cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes rank?

 

[Skull Pilot]

It's not guns that damage society it's criminals who use guns in the commission of crimes.

you want to ignore the fact that 3/4 or gun shot victims and 3/4 of all shooters have prior criminal histories, or that taking gang murders out of the equation lowers our murder rate to about 3000 per year

It's just not true that most murders are committed by previously law abiding people who happen to own guns who went berserk one day

we don't have a gun problem. We have other problems that contribute to our high crime rate

Sure, it's criminals. Now here's the problem, a criminal with a gun is far more a threat than a criminal without one. Also, a society that basically breeds criminals isn't a good society and has lots of criminals.

I'm not ignoring that many of the murderers had previous ARRESTS (criminal histories, as you put it), but then you want to take gangs out of the picture? Why is that? Gangs are still a part of society, and cause massive problems because the US breeds people into gangs.

I have spoken about this before and the biggest problem is often that the politicians won't do anything about sorting out the problems that exist within society, which causes more crime and criminals. It's an attitude which I hit every time I debate this. The whole "we're individuals, we should do anything", it's a circular argument which never gets anything solved.

We need guns because society is danger - society is dangerous because we refuse to do anything to solve it - because we don't solve it we need guns.

People who commit crimes with guns are an extreme minority of the population. I hardly call that "breeding criminals"

The fact is society as a whole is not in danger. There are isolated pockets of extremely high crime and murder in this country in mostly urban areas.

Yes, people who commit crimes with guns are a minority of the population. People who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam are an even smaller portion of the Muslim world. And yet the right feels the need to put all Muslims in the same basket and declare them all dangerous.

Yes, there are areas of high crime and society doesn't seem to have the desire to solve any of these problems, just shove them under the carpet, right? You see a problem, er... well... um... nah, can't be bothered to solve that problem, nor that one. But hey, oh, there's a problem that we just made for ourselves by invading Iraq, er... yeah, we need to solve that one because 9 people died, but the problem where 10,000 people die, nah, that's not a problem. 9 people is people, 10,000 people is just a statistic, right?

Ah so this is just more 2 dimensional partisan thinking on your part. The right this the right that yada yada.

Before you start whining to me about Iraq I'll inform you that I have from day one never supported it unlike the democrats in congress who did.




So if society doesn't seem to want to solve them what's your problem with it?

I really do not give an iota of a fuck if a bunch of piece of shit gang bangers in some urban shit hole kill each other.

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Sure, it's criminals. Now here's the problem, a criminal with a gun is far more a threat than a criminal without one. Also, a society that basically breeds criminals isn't a good society and has lots of criminals.

I'm not ignoring that many of the murderers had previous ARRESTS (criminal histories, as you put it), but then you want to take gangs out of the picture? Why is that? Gangs are still a part of society, and cause massive problems because the US breeds people into gangs.

I have spoken about this before and the biggest problem is often that the politicians won't do anything about sorting out the problems that exist within society, which causes more crime and criminals. It's an attitude which I hit every time I debate this. The whole "we're individuals, we should do anything", it's a circular argument which never gets anything solved.

We need guns because society is danger - society is dangerous because we refuse to do anything to solve it - because we don't solve it we need guns.

People who commit crimes with guns are an extreme minority of the population. I hardly call that "breeding criminals"

The fact is society as a whole is not in danger. There are isolated pockets of extremely high crime and murder in this country in mostly urban areas.

Yes, people who commit crimes with guns are a minority of the population. People who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam are an even smaller portion of the Muslim world. And yet the right feels the need to put all Muslims in the same basket and declare them all dangerous.

Yes, there are areas of high crime and society doesn't seem to have the desire to solve any of these problems, just shove them under the carpet, right? You see a problem, er... well... um... nah, can't be bothered to solve that problem, nor that one. But hey, oh, there's a problem that we just made for ourselves by invading Iraq, er... yeah, we need to solve that one because 9 people died, but the problem where 10,000 people die, nah, that's not a problem. 9 people is people, 10,000 people is just a statistic, right?

Ah so this is just more 2 dimensional partisan thinking on your part. The right this the right that yada yada.

Before you start whining to me about Iraq I'll inform you that I have from day one never supported it unlike the democrats in congress who did.




So if society doesn't seem to want to solve them what's your problem with it?

I really do not give an iota of a fuck if a bunch of piece of shit gang bangers in some urban shit hole kill each other.

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

 

[Muhammed]

It is worth the price to the right that 11,700+ people are killed by guns yearly.

You are lying.

Guns are inanimate objects. The cannot kill anyone, jackass.

 

[Skull Pilot]

People who commit crimes with guns are an extreme minority of the population. I hardly call that "breeding criminals"

The fact is society as a whole is not in danger. There are isolated pockets of extremely high crime and murder in this country in mostly urban areas.

Yes, people who commit crimes with guns are a minority of the population. People who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam are an even smaller portion of the Muslim world. And yet the right feels the need to put all Muslims in the same basket and declare them all dangerous.

Yes, there are areas of high crime and society doesn't seem to have the desire to solve any of these problems, just shove them under the carpet, right? You see a problem, er... well... um... nah, can't be bothered to solve that problem, nor that one. But hey, oh, there's a problem that we just made for ourselves by invading Iraq, er... yeah, we need to solve that one because 9 people died, but the problem where 10,000 people die, nah, that's not a problem. 9 people is people, 10,000 people is just a statistic, right?

Ah so this is just more 2 dimensional partisan thinking on your part. The right this the right that yada yada.

Before you start whining to me about Iraq I'll inform you that I have from day one never supported it unlike the democrats in congress who did.




So if society doesn't seem to want to solve them what's your problem with it?

I really do not give an iota of a fuck if a bunch of piece of shit gang bangers in some urban shit hole kill each other.

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes, people who commit crimes with guns are a minority of the population. People who commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam are an even smaller portion of the Muslim world. And yet the right feels the need to put all Muslims in the same basket and declare them all dangerous.

Yes, there are areas of high crime and society doesn't seem to have the desire to solve any of these problems, just shove them under the carpet, right? You see a problem, er... well... um... nah, can't be bothered to solve that problem, nor that one. But hey, oh, there's a problem that we just made for ourselves by invading Iraq, er... yeah, we need to solve that one because 9 people died, but the problem where 10,000 people die, nah, that's not a problem. 9 people is people, 10,000 people is just a statistic, right?

Ah so this is just more 2 dimensional partisan thinking on your part. The right this the right that yada yada.

Before you start whining to me about Iraq I'll inform you that I have from day one never supported it unlike the democrats in congress who did.




So if society doesn't seem to want to solve them what's your problem with it?

I really do not give an iota of a fuck if a bunch of piece of shit gang bangers in some urban shit hole kill each other.

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

Crime is down in the US and everywhere else. But I don't just mean crime, partisanship is getting worse.

Crime and murder have nothing to do with Iraq? So, terrorists don't killed people because they were made extreme because of what happened in Iraq? Sure they do.

 

[Redfish]

It is worth the price to the right that 11,700+ people are killed by guns yearly.

Is it not worth the price that people are free to practice their own religion for that 9+ people die a year?

tell that to the victims of Orlando, San Bernardino, Ft Hood, Nice, Paris, et al.

when practicing your religion includes killing people who do not follow your religion, then your religion is not a religion, but a cult of hate and murder.

Islam is NOT a religion. It is a form of government, set of laws, set of punishments, and book of instructions for killing everyone who is not a muslim.

 

[Redfish]

It is worth the price to the right that 11,700+ people are killed by guns yearly.

Is it not worth the price that people are free to practice their own religion for that 9+ people die a year?

I think everyone should be able to practice their religion without being messed with.

even when the practice of their religion includes killing YOU?

 

[Redfish]

Ah so this is just more 2 dimensional partisan thinking on your part. The right this the right that yada yada.

Before you start whining to me about Iraq I'll inform you that I have from day one never supported it unlike the democrats in congress who did.




So if society doesn't seem to want to solve them what's your problem with it?

I really do not give an iota of a fuck if a bunch of piece of shit gang bangers in some urban shit hole kill each other.

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

Crime is down in the US and everywhere else. But I don't just mean crime, partisanship is getting worse.

Crime and murder have nothing to do with Iraq? So, terrorists don't killed people because they were made extreme because of what happened in Iraq? Sure they do.

Yes, partisanship is getting worse. Any idea why? Obama was in a perfect place to fix it and bring the country back together. Instead he created a race war, a religious war, a war on the rich, a war on Christians, he divided this country like never before. and yet, you fool continue to heap praise on him. amazingly stupid.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Ah so this is just more 2 dimensional partisan thinking on your part. The right this the right that yada yada.

Before you start whining to me about Iraq I'll inform you that I have from day one never supported it unlike the democrats in congress who did.




So if society doesn't seem to want to solve them what's your problem with it?

I really do not give an iota of a fuck if a bunch of piece of shit gang bangers in some urban shit hole kill each other.

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

Crime is down in the US and everywhere else. But I don't just mean crime, partisanship is getting worse.

Crime and murder have nothing to do with Iraq? So, terrorists don't killed people because they were made extreme because of what happened in Iraq? Sure they do.

Yeah terrorism that kills sooooo many people every day in this country is that what you're really whining about here?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

Crime is down in the US and everywhere else. But I don't just mean crime, partisanship is getting worse.

Crime and murder have nothing to do with Iraq? So, terrorists don't killed people because they were made extreme because of what happened in Iraq? Sure they do.

Yes, partisanship is getting worse. Any idea why? Obama was in a perfect place to fix it and bring the country back together. Instead he created a race war, a religious war, a war on the rich, a war on Christians, he divided this country like never before. and yet, you fool continue to heap praise on him. amazingly stupid.

Partisanship is not crime it is not murder

 

[Manonthestreet]

Those numbers cherry picked from 1 yr or what....Death by jihadi has been whole lot higher than 2 during O admin

 

[Redfish]

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

Crime is down in the US and everywhere else. But I don't just mean crime, partisanship is getting worse.

Crime and murder have nothing to do with Iraq? So, terrorists don't killed people because they were made extreme because of what happened in Iraq? Sure they do.

Yes, partisanship is getting worse. Any idea why? Obama was in a perfect place to fix it and bring the country back together. Instead he created a race war, a religious war, a war on the rich, a war on Christians, he divided this country like never before. and yet, you fool continue to heap praise on him. amazingly stupid.

Partisanship is not crime it is not murder

did I say it was? duh, no

 

[Skull Pilot]

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

Crime is down in the US and everywhere else. But I don't just mean crime, partisanship is getting worse.

Crime and murder have nothing to do with Iraq? So, terrorists don't killed people because they were made extreme because of what happened in Iraq? Sure they do.

Yes, partisanship is getting worse. Any idea why? Obama was in a perfect place to fix it and bring the country back together. Instead he created a race war, a religious war, a war on the rich, a war on Christians, he divided this country like never before. and yet, you fool continue to heap praise on him. amazingly stupid.

Partisanship is not crime it is not murder

did I say it was? duh, no

did I say you said it was?

duh no

 

[Redfish]

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

Crime is down in the US and everywhere else. But I don't just mean crime, partisanship is getting worse.

Crime and murder have nothing to do with Iraq? So, terrorists don't killed people because they were made extreme because of what happened in Iraq? Sure they do.

Yes, partisanship is getting worse. Any idea why? Obama was in a perfect place to fix it and bring the country back together. Instead he created a race war, a religious war, a war on the rich, a war on Christians, he divided this country like never before. and yet, you fool continue to heap praise on him. amazingly stupid.

did I say it was? duh, no

did I say you said it was?

duh no

you implied it. if that was not your intent, fine

 

[frigidweirdo]

Are you telling me that a lot of people on the right aren't calling for Muslims to banned from entering the US or from being allowed to work in the US or other variants of treating Muslims differently because they are Muslims? I'd like it not to be the case, problem is, it is the case.

What's my problem with society not wanting to solve the problems? Well, you want to live in a hell hole?

If problems can't get solved, which direction do you think the US is going to go in? When a car gets a little bit of rust, do you think you'll wake up in 2 years time with a shiny sparkling rust free car after not having done anything to solve the problem?

I don't listen to idiots it seems you do
I'm for a complete shut down of immigration until we get our shit together and then after we get our shit together we need to be a hell of a lot more selective who we let in. In fact we should be more like New Zealand and only allow people in who have specific skills we need or have the money to start a business

The fact that you think what less that 1% of the population (violent criminals and murderers) do and do mostly to each other is going to rot away our society tells me you are prone to hyperbole and histrionics. in reality we are not talking rust on a car it's more like a bug on a windshield

And quite frankly the only hell holes we have here are those ultra violent urban areas that are the seat of most of our crimes and murders
Did the fiasco in Ferguson or the weekend death toll in Chicago ever affect you and your life?

You don't listen to idiots? I'm sure you do, there are plenty of them, too many to ignore.

You get rid of immigration for a while, you'd understand how this would impact the US severely. What about all the Europeans who work in the US?

Letting people in who have the skills is fine, the other problem is the Japan problem. A country that doesn't like letting people stay, and recently kicked out a Thai boy (16 years old) who'd lived his whole life in Japan, and yet the birth rate in Japan is very low and most of the population is over 65, which causes a different set of problems.

I've been to a lot of countries. I've lived in quite a few too. Some you can go out at night in the city and feel relatively safe, in the US it's not so. In smaller towns yes, depending. However the problem is one of growing problems.

Problems just get worse and worse from generation to generation. How is that going to solve the problems?

Did Ferguson or Chicago affect my life? No, but I don't live there. What happens if things get out of control and it does affect me.

What affects people on a daily basis is the way govt doesn't bother to solve any of these problems in society, and it's getting worse. One person I have on Facebook who seems to be a bit of an activist, arrived home and the lights were on, only, no one was home who should have been. That affects her. People are concerned about the way their society is going, and they're right to be concerned.

The Iraq War impacted me a lot. It impacts a lot of people now. What happens does impact people.

it's not getting worse.
Crime overall is down, murder is down in all honesty the streets in the vast majority of the country are safe
Don't confuse media hype and the histrionics of the left or the right with facts

And the crime and murder rates have nothing to do with Iraq.

Crime is down in the US and everywhere else. But I don't just mean crime, partisanship is getting worse.

Crime and murder have nothing to do with Iraq? So, terrorists don't killed people because they were made extreme because of what happened in Iraq? Sure they do.

Yeah terrorism that kills sooooo many people every day in this country is that what you're really whining about here?

Funny how so many people get killed by terrorists so we have to ban Muslims coming in, but then so few people get killed by terrorists when it was the right who started the whole thing.

Every situation has two sides to it, right?

The problem is, if you go abroad, then this is where you find more problems that exist because of the Iraq War, which DO affect me because I do go abroad at lot. For example like flying through Brussels airport the last two times I've been to Europe (either side of the killings there), or Germany or wherever.