What arms do we need to take the government back?

[CWayne]

The exact same technological equivalency that the founding generation had. There is little need to describe the type when it is sufficient to say that we should have the same state of the art weapons that the government has.

After all, that is what we had in the founding generation.

Let me explain something to you

Gun nuts could have the exact same weapons as our armed forces and they would still have their asses handed to them

Our command structure, training and tactics are just that good

Let me explain something to you, again.

The military will not actively work to overthrow the people. They are loyal to the Constitution and the Constitution places the power in our hands.

Let me explain something to you. You take up arms against our constitutionally elected government ....YOU are the bad guys

Again, let me explain something to you. In order for the populace to take up arms against our government, they would have already ceased to have been a constitutionally elected government.

Revolutions don't happen because a bunch of loudmouths on an Internet forum piss and moan about not getting the government they want. It happens when the government becomes so egregious that it is apparent to each and every American and the ONLY thing the military will do is keep the wolves away from our shores while the matter gets settled, one way or the other.

The whole talk of revolution is nonsense. People have full bellies, warm shelter and a good economy with growth for the future.

The need for weapons of equal technology is insurance against the future and a statement to the government.

We the People, are always watching.

So it seems you have abandoned the futile notion of an armed population taking back a tyrannical government and replaced it with a Military Coup.

It was never a notion. If the time ever comes when is becomes necessary, your nonsense won't stop it.

Right now, we have other means to affect change. These means we have been using for centuries. They suffice.

Make no mistake. The second exists because of redcoats (traitors) who put government ahead of people. King George learned that lesson.

We will remain vigilant and demand we have the same level of arms that our government has. Just as they did in 1770+.

 

[Unkotare]

You would see 70% of the military special forces join the republican side, all the gun manufacturing is operated by republicans. Just sheer intimidation factor of republicans coming for the beta democrats with be enough arms for them to fold like paper chair

Interesting what will happen in Virginia... come for the guns, run for the bullets?

Yeah, sure seems that guns work like nothing else to protect your rights.

I think history is going to repeat itself, Boston revolution, arms fight in Virginia, can’t wait to get it on

Relax, Francis.

 

[Jitss617]

You would see 70% of the military special forces join the republican side, all the gun manufacturing is operated by republicans. Just sheer intimidation factor of republicans coming for the beta democrats with be enough arms for them to fold like paper chair

Interesting what will happen in Virginia... come for the guns, run for the bullets?

Yeah, sure seems that guns work like nothing else to protect your rights.

I think history is going to repeat itself, Boston revolution, arms fight in Virginia, can’t wait to get it on

Relax, Francis.

Ok tranny

 

[rightwinger]

Let me explain something to you

Gun nuts could have the exact same weapons as our armed forces and they would still have their asses handed to them

Our command structure, training and tactics are just that good

Let me explain something to you, again.

The military will not actively work to overthrow the people. They are loyal to the Constitution and the Constitution places the power in our hands.

Let me explain something to you. You take up arms against our constitutionally elected government ....YOU are the bad guys

Again, let me explain something to you. In order for the populace to take up arms against our government, they would have already ceased to have been a constitutionally elected government.

Revolutions don't happen because a bunch of loudmouths on an Internet forum piss and moan about not getting the government they want. It happens when the government becomes so egregious that it is apparent to each and every American and the ONLY thing the military will do is keep the wolves away from our shores while the matter gets settled, one way or the other.

The whole talk of revolution is nonsense. People have full bellies, warm shelter and a good economy with growth for the future.

The need for weapons of equal technology is insurance against the future and a statement to the government.

We the People, are always watching.

So it seems you have abandoned the futile notion of an armed population taking back a tyrannical government and replaced it with a Military Coup.

It was never a notion. If the time ever comes when is becomes necessary, your nonsense won't stop it.

Right now, we have other means to affect change. These means we have been using for centuries. They suffice.

Make no mistake. The second exists because of redcoats (traitors) who put government ahead of people. King George learned that lesson.

We will remain vigilant and demand we have the same level of arms that our government has. Just as they did in 1770+.

The second makes no mention of armed insurrection against the government

Instead, the Constitution has provisions so that such an insurrection will never be necessary

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The arms private citizens need to overpower a tyrannical government

1. The vote
2. A Free Press
3. The right of assembly
4. Freedom of Speech

It has worked for 230 years

when have we had a tyrannical govt ?...

See 1-4 above

it works

ok...when have we had a tyrannical govt?....

The opening post specifies a hypothetical event. What arms do you think we would need for the hypothetical event? Remember, the opening post also specifies temporarily stepping away from subjective ideology long enough to provide an objective answer..

if your O.P. is serious, no amount of guns in private hands will defeat the strongest military in the history of mankind

Except that one back in 1776?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.

Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?

The arms private citizens need to overpower a tyrannical government

1. The vote
2. A Free Press
3. The right of assembly
4. Freedom of Speech

It has worked for 230 years

And to have all those rights we need:

- Right to bear arms.

We have never needed arms to protect our freedoms and our vote

EVER

You really are stupid.

1776
1812
1942

 

[EvMetro]

So far Rightwinger has not had a single good argument.

Everyone knows arms are beneficial in "taking government back". It's simply not even a debate. To say otherwise is completely retarded. Now can we actually discuss the topic?

Certainly high powered weapons are very handy.

Everyone knows we have the best government in the world
If we want to “take government back” we do it with a Free Press, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, the vote.......and oh yes, Impeachment

Not an arm to be found

Did the opening post refer to the best government in the world, or did it refer to a tyrannical one? Which of these two are your proposed arms best for fighting it with?

 

[rightwinger]

when have we had a tyrannical govt ?...

See 1-4 above

it works

ok...when have we had a tyrannical govt?....

The opening post specifies a hypothetical event. What arms do you think we would need for the hypothetical event? Remember, the opening post also specifies temporarily stepping away from subjective ideology long enough to provide an objective answer..

if your O.P. is serious, no amount of guns in private hands will defeat the strongest military in the history of mankind

Except that one back in 1776?

The Continental Army and French Navy were not in private hands

 

[Syriusly]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.

Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?

That has been working so well in Syria......

 

[rightwinger]

So far Rightwinger has not had a single good argument.

Everyone knows arms are beneficial in "taking government back". It's simply not even a debate. To say otherwise is completely retarded. Now can we actually discuss the topic?

Certainly high powered weapons are very handy.

Everyone knows we have the best government in the world
If we want to “take government back” we do it with a Free Press, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, the vote.......and oh yes, Impeachment

Not an arm to be found

Did the opening post refer to the best government in the world, or did it refer to a tyrannical one? Which of these two are your proposed arms best for fighting it with?

We had a tyrannical government that denied equal access to the law, denied the right to vote and used laws to create and enforce second hand citizenship

That tyrannical government was brought down not with guns but.......Freedom of assembly, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press

Our Civil Rights movement did not need guns

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The ridiculous right will never abandon their pathetic Red Dawn fantasy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The right's propensity for violence and civil war is both disturbing and wrong.

King George would have agreed with you.

No, far too many on the right fantasize about civil war and violence, about Americans killing each other – it’s part of the pervasive sickness that is conservatism.

 

[Harry Dresden]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.

Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?

The arms private citizens need to overpower a tyrannical government

1. The vote
2. A Free Press
3. The right of assembly
4. Freedom of Speech

It has worked for 230 years

when have we had a tyrannical govt ?...

See 1-4 above

it works

Rightwinger wants a left wing tyrannical government and he honestly tells us what works to get to his goal.

All the tyrant dictators got rid of guns as their first move. With guns there is no tyranny.

We have the best Government in the world today

The idea that anyone would need arms to overthrow it is insulting to loyal Americans

who is talking about over throwing it?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.

Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?

The arms private citizens need to overpower a tyrannical government

1. The vote
2. A Free Press
3. The right of assembly
4. Freedom of Speech

It has worked for 230 years

And to have all those rights we need:

- Right to bear arms.

We have never needed arms to protect our freedoms and our vote

EVER

as our population gets further a part...like they say...there is always a first time....

check out the 60s

Both the 1860s and the 1960s

you just said it has never happened before.....now you are giving me 2 examples?....

 

[Harry Dresden]

So far Rightwinger has not had a single good argument.

Everyone knows arms are beneficial in "taking government back". It's simply not even a debate. To say otherwise is completely retarded. Now can we actually discuss the topic?

Certainly high powered weapons are very handy.

Everyone knows we have the best government in the world
If we want to “take government back” we do it with a Free Press, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, the vote.......and oh yes, Impeachment

Not an arm to be found

if the military took control with a dictator,those 4 things would be shut down....now what?....how are you going to get it back?...

 

[Harry Dresden]

The right's propensity for violence and civil war is both disturbing and wrong.

And yet it is the left that we have seen over, and over, and over resort to violence since Trump was elected. The LEFT shot up a Congressional softball game. The LEFT shot up an ICE facility, the LEFT has instigated riots and looting all over this country.

Pseudo intellectuals, like ole clayton here, point to Charlotte and go "see the violence of the right!"

Fucking imbeciles.

its no reply jones....the guy doesnt have enough pride in himself to even defend himself against what posters here say about him or the shit he throws up...

 

[rightwinger]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.

Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?

The arms private citizens need to overpower a tyrannical government

1. The vote
2. A Free Press
3. The right of assembly
4. Freedom of Speech

It has worked for 230 years

And to have all those rights we need:

- Right to bear arms.

We have never needed arms to protect our freedoms and our vote

EVER

You really are stupid.

1776
1812
1942

All fought by the Government not privately held arms

 

[Missouri_Mike]

See 1-4 above

it works

ok...when have we had a tyrannical govt?....

The opening post specifies a hypothetical event. What arms do you think we would need for the hypothetical event? Remember, the opening post also specifies temporarily stepping away from subjective ideology long enough to provide an objective answer..

if your O.P. is serious, no amount of guns in private hands will defeat the strongest military in the history of mankind

Except that one back in 1776?

The Continental Army and French Navy were not in private hands

Geez us H christ. You’re retarded. The continental army was made up of men bringing their own guns and other shit to fight. WTF do you think happened back then? A bunch of kids got out of high school, went to the local mall and found the Army recruiter there who sold them on traveling the world and free college?

 

[Oddball]

The right's propensity for violence and civil war is both disturbing and wrong.

And yet it was the Left's love of human slavery that caused it. And to this day, most of the organized civil violence still comes from the Left!

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[Oddball]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.

Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?

The exact same technological equivalency that the founding generation had. There is little need to describe the type when it is sufficient to say that we should have the same state of the art weapons that the government has.

After all, that is what we had in the founding generation.

Let me explain something to you

Gun nuts could have the exact same weapons as our armed forces and they would still have their asses handed to them

Our command structure, training and tactics are just that good

Let me explain something to you, again.

The military will not actively work to overthrow the people. They are loyal to the Constitution and the Constitution places the power in our hands.

Let me explain something to you. You take up arms against our constitutionally elected government ....YOU are the bad guys

Good thing that General Washington ignored that memo.