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Wrong againView attachment 296795If the military took control with a dictator, your private arms would be of no helpif the military took control with a dictator,those 4 things would be shut down....now what?....how are you going to get it back?...
Our Military is THAT GOOD
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
you are so far away from what the premise of this thread was that its a whole different thread...Wrong againView attachment 296795If the military took control with a dictator, your private arms would be of no help
Our Military is THAT GOOD
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
We own all of that stuff, and we are the ones who taught the current active duty how to use it all. We can still utilize all of our fighting assets if we need to.Wrong againView attachment 296795If the military took control with a dictator, your private arms would be of no helpif the military took control with a dictator,those 4 things would be shut down....now what?....how are you going to get it back?...
Our Military is THAT GOOD
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
when have we had a tyrannical govt ?...The arms private citizens need to overpower a tyrannical government"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.
Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?
1. The vote
2. A Free Press
3. The right of assembly
4. Freedom of Speech
It has worked for 230 years
See 1-4 above
it works
Rightwinger wants a left wing tyrannical government and he honestly tells us what works to get to his goal.
All the tyrant dictators got rid of guns as their first move. With guns there is no tyranny.
We have the best Government in the world today
The idea that anyone would need arms to overthrow it is insulting to loyal Americans
Which one do you use to vote?"
What arms do we need to take the government back?
I'm thinking you don't know the difference between fantasy and prudence.No, far too many on the right fantasize about civil war and violence, about Americans killing each other – it’s part of the pervasive sickness that is conservatism.King George would have agreed with you.The right's propensity for violence and civil war is both disturbing and wrong.
What is amusing is that he thinks to overthrow a tyrannical government makes you the bad guy.Good thing that General Washington ignored that memo.Let me explain something to you, again.Let me explain something to youThe exact same technological equivalency that the founding generation had. There is little need to describe the type when it is sufficient to say that we should have the same state of the art weapons that the government has."A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
We don't all agree that the second amendment defines our right to keep and bear arms, we don't all agree that a "well regulated militia" isn't a militia encumbered by regulation, and we don't all agree that "shall not be infringed" really means just that. This thread is not meant to debate the intent of the second amendment, but rather to debate which arms are needed if we are to over power and take back a tyrannical government.
Regardless of your beliefs, ideology, or opinions of what the second ammendment are, please list what arms you think we would need as private citizens if we were to assemble militias to overpower and take back a tyrannical federal government if this hypothetical event were to occur. Would we need more than millions of ar15 owners? Do we need baseball bats and metal garbage can lids? What do you think we would need?
After all, that is what we had in the founding generation.
Gun nuts could have the exact same weapons as our armed forces and they would still have their asses handed to them
Our command structure, training and tactics are just that good
The military will not actively work to overthrow the people. They are loyal to the Constitution and the Constitution places the power in our hands.
Let me explain something to you. You take up arms against our constitutionally elected government ....YOU are the bad guys
No, the 2nd is the guarantee against it. In the Declaration of Independence, the founders gave us the foundation for when men must rise up against an unjust government.It was never a notion. If the time ever comes when is becomes necessary, your nonsense won't stop it.Again, let me explain something to you. In order for the populace to take up arms against our government, they would have already ceased to have been a constitutionally elected government.Let me explain something to you, again.
The military will not actively work to overthrow the people. They are loyal to the Constitution and the Constitution places the power in our hands.
Let me explain something to you. You take up arms against our constitutionally elected government ....YOU are the bad guys
Revolutions don't happen because a bunch of loudmouths on an Internet forum piss and moan about not getting the government they want. It happens when the government becomes so egregious that it is apparent to each and every American and the ONLY thing the military will do is keep the wolves away from our shores while the matter gets settled, one way or the other.
The whole talk of revolution is nonsense. People have full bellies, warm shelter and a good economy with growth for the future.
The need for weapons of equal technology is insurance against the future and a statement to the government.
We the People, are always watching.
So it seems you have abandoned the futile notion of an armed population taking back a tyrannical government and replaced it with a Military Coup.
Right now, we have other means to affect change. These means we have been using for centuries. They suffice.
Make no mistake. The second exists because of redcoats (traitors) who put government ahead of people. King George learned that lesson.
We will remain vigilant and demand we have the same level of arms that our government has. Just as they did in 1770+.
The second makes no mention of armed insurrection against the government
Instead, the Constitution has provisions so that such an insurrection will never be necessary
The premise of this ridiculous thread is that armed civilians could somehow overthrow a tyrannical governmentyou are so far away from what the premise of this thread was that its a whole different thread...Wrong againView attachment 296795If the military took control with a dictator, your private arms would be of no help
Our Military is THAT GOOD
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
Wrong againView attachment 296795If the military took control with a dictator, your private arms would be of no help
Our Military is THAT GOOD
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
No one questioned that it is easier to fight with those things and many more.
Do you believe people have a better fighting chance with or without guns? Or do only all those things you mentioned matter, just definitely not guns?
No, the 2nd is the guarantee against it. In the Declaration of Independence, the founders gave us the foundation for when men must rise up against an unjust government.It was never a notion. If the time ever comes when is becomes necessary, your nonsense won't stop it.Again, let me explain something to you. In order for the populace to take up arms against our government, they would have already ceased to have been a constitutionally elected government.Let me explain something to you. You take up arms against our constitutionally elected government ....YOU are the bad guys
Revolutions don't happen because a bunch of loudmouths on an Internet forum piss and moan about not getting the government they want. It happens when the government becomes so egregious that it is apparent to each and every American and the ONLY thing the military will do is keep the wolves away from our shores while the matter gets settled, one way or the other.
The whole talk of revolution is nonsense. People have full bellies, warm shelter and a good economy with growth for the future.
The need for weapons of equal technology is insurance against the future and a statement to the government.
We the People, are always watching.
So it seems you have abandoned the futile notion of an armed population taking back a tyrannical government and replaced it with a Military Coup.
Right now, we have other means to affect change. These means we have been using for centuries. They suffice.
Make no mistake. The second exists because of redcoats (traitors) who put government ahead of people. King George learned that lesson.
We will remain vigilant and demand we have the same level of arms that our government has. Just as they did in 1770+.
The second makes no mention of armed insurrection against the government
Instead, the Constitution has provisions so that such an insurrection will never be necessary
Here, I thought you were versed in our founding. Now I find you lack even the most basic understanding for why we broke away from England.
no it wasnt.....it was to take back a tyrannical federal government....The premise of this ridiculous thread is that armed civilians could somehow overthrow a tyrannical governmentyou are so far away from what the premise of this thread was that its a whole different thread...Wrong again
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
Red Dawn fantasy
Wrong again
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
No one questioned that it is easier to fight with those things and many more.
Do you believe people have a better fighting chance with or without guns? Or do only all those things you mentioned matter, just definitely not guns?
As I have pointed out.....
Free Speech, Free Press, Freedom of assembly and a vote make=guns unnecessary
We have NEVER needed a second amendment against government
the civil rights movement was about securing civil rights for all,not taking back a tyrannical government.....No, the 2nd is the guarantee against it. In the Declaration of Independence, the founders gave us the foundation for when men must rise up against an unjust government.It was never a notion. If the time ever comes when is becomes necessary, your nonsense won't stop it.Again, let me explain something to you. In order for the populace to take up arms against our government, they would have already ceased to have been a constitutionally elected government.
Revolutions don't happen because a bunch of loudmouths on an Internet forum piss and moan about not getting the government they want. It happens when the government becomes so egregious that it is apparent to each and every American and the ONLY thing the military will do is keep the wolves away from our shores while the matter gets settled, one way or the other.
The whole talk of revolution is nonsense. People have full bellies, warm shelter and a good economy with growth for the future.
The need for weapons of equal technology is insurance against the future and a statement to the government.
We the People, are always watching.
So it seems you have abandoned the futile notion of an armed population taking back a tyrannical government and replaced it with a Military Coup.
Right now, we have other means to affect change. These means we have been using for centuries. They suffice.
Make no mistake. The second exists because of redcoats (traitors) who put government ahead of people. King George learned that lesson.
We will remain vigilant and demand we have the same level of arms that our government has. Just as they did in 1770+.
The second makes no mention of armed insurrection against the government
Instead, the Constitution has provisions so that such an insurrection will never be necessary
Here, I thought you were versed in our founding. Now I find you lack even the most basic understanding for why we broke away from England.
We broke away from England because we lacked the freedoms to overthrow a tyrannical government without armed rebellion
The Civil Rights movement proved we do not need guns
Which one do you use to vote?"
What arms do we need to take the government back?
That's the only one you need.
Wrong againView attachment 296795If the military took control with a dictator, your private arms would be of no help
Our Military is THAT GOOD
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
No one questioned that it is easier to fight with those things and many more.
Do you believe people have a better fighting chance with or without guns? Or do only all those things you mentioned matter, just definitely not guns?
the civil rights movement was about securing civil rights for all,not taking back a tyrannical government.....No, the 2nd is the guarantee against it. In the Declaration of Independence, the founders gave us the foundation for when men must rise up against an unjust government.It was never a notion. If the time ever comes when is becomes necessary, your nonsense won't stop it.So it seems you have abandoned the futile notion of an armed population taking back a tyrannical government and replaced it with a Military Coup.
Right now, we have other means to affect change. These means we have been using for centuries. They suffice.
Make no mistake. The second exists because of redcoats (traitors) who put government ahead of people. King George learned that lesson.
We will remain vigilant and demand we have the same level of arms that our government has. Just as they did in 1770+.
The second makes no mention of armed insurrection against the government
Instead, the Constitution has provisions so that such an insurrection will never be necessary
Here, I thought you were versed in our founding. Now I find you lack even the most basic understanding for why we broke away from England.
We broke away from England because we lacked the freedoms to overthrow a tyrannical government without armed rebellion
The Civil Rights movement proved we do not need guns
Wrong again
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
No one questioned that it is easier to fight with those things and many more.
Do you believe people have a better fighting chance with or without guns? Or do only all those things you mentioned matter, just definitely not guns?
History has shown that peaceful resistance is more effective than armed resistance
Wrong again
Both the NVA and Viet Cong were supported by the North Vietnamese government, Russia and China
So fucking what.
It's clear that you are utterly wrong. It's because of the simple fact that it's for sure easier to fight WITH guns than WITHOUT guns. Your position is a joke, and I do not believe even you yourself seriously entertain it. Leftist deception at its finest.
It’s easier to fight with artillery, tanks, helicopters, fighter jets, bombers, a Navy, a command and control structure, skilled fighters, logistics
All things our magnificent military has that gun nuts playing Red Dawn fantasies do not
No one questioned that it is easier to fight with those things and many more.
Do you believe people have a better fighting chance with or without guns? Or do only all those things you mentioned matter, just definitely not guns?
As I have pointed out.....
Free Speech, Free Press, Freedom of assembly and a vote make=guns unnecessary
We have NEVER needed a second amendment against government
Lying that you do not understand simple concepts, now that is unnecessary and will only lengthen the discussion.
