What Constitutional Gun Control....

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I favor the mandatory control of all AMMUNITION -- and its sparing release to gun owners for well documented purposes.

It would also be good if the ammunition allotted to a person were "marked" in some way, so that if a spent bullet at a crime scene were recovered, it could be traced back to the individual who owned that particular bullet.

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Let me guess. You've never even held a gun, and all the firearm "expertise" that you bring to the table and expect us to respect is based on discussing how "eeeevil" the "gun culture" is with other panty-wearing leftist nancy boys.
 
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I favor the mandatory control of all AMMUNITION -- and its sparing release to gun owners for well documented purposes.

It would also be good if the ammunition allotted to a person were "marked" in some way, so that if a spent bullet at a crime scene were recovered, it could be traced back to the individual who owned that particular bullet.

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I fully support the First Amendment, but favor the mandatory control of all computer input devices. Serial numbers should be tracked so that if anyone posts something asinine on the internet, it could be traced back to them for appropriate punishment.

Of course, I'm mocking your totalitarian-wannabe nonsense.
 
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I am not as dense as most of the people here. I can recognise irony when it hits me over the head with a two-by-four.

Intelligent irony I appreciate. Too bad yours is about two situations which can only be distantly equated and so are not very comparable.
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I favor the mandatory control of all AMMUNITION -- and its sparing release to gun owners for well documented purposes.

It would also be good if the ammunition allotted to a person were "marked" in some way, so that if a spent bullet at a crime scene were recovered, it could be traced back to the individual who owned that particular bullet.

Let me guess. You've never even held a gun....
Actually, I did do some target practice as a child -- but then I put childish things behind me.
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...initiative could have stopped the shooting at the school in Georgia?


The facts are:

The shooter was a convicted felon.

The shooter was mentally ill.

The crime scene was a gun free zone.

The firearm was stolen.

Lets' take them one at a time:

The shooter was a convicted felon. Laws which restrict felons from owning, possessing or having a firearm in their custody or control would not have prevented the crime in question, since the weapon was stolen. However, had the felon been stopped and the weapon had been found he would receive a mandatory commitment to the State Prison for possession of stolen property and that sentence would be enhanced by his possession of a firearm.

The shooter was mentally ill. Laws which restrict the mentally ill from owning, possessing, etc a firearm are ineffectual do to HIPAA privacy restrictions. If I had my way anyone detained as a danger to themselves or others in a locked psychiatric facility should be flagged in the criminal records of the state and reflect their lack of eligibility without reason to licensed gun purveyors.

I also support laws to deny the right to own, possess, etc. a firearm to anyone convicted of DUI, domestic violence, battery with GBI, sales or transportation of drugs.

Gun Free Zone Again, a Gun Free Zone won't prevent a crime, but anyone in possession, etc. of a firearm within such a zone gets sent to jail. No ifs, ands or buts, a jail sentence is mandatory.

Stolen Firearm When the legal owner of the gun was careless I support holding him/her civilly culpable if that stolen gun is used in a crime.

No laws will prevent wanton violence. The proliferation of guns allows felons, the mentally ill and persons with a violent history easy access.

"The proliferation of guns". Another meaningless phrase.
There are about 100M guns in the United States. Probably more. If we shut down every gun maker and importer, there would still be 100M guns. generally they have a service life of nearly forever (I own several that are over 100 years old and work fine). All of them are potentially available to criminals through theft, etc.

As for the rest of your crap: you support barring people convicted of DUIs from guns? A DUI is typically a misdemeanor. What misdemeanor should result in loss of COnstitutional rights? Similarly with domestic abuse, which Lautenberg, he should burn in hell, actually enacted. There are millions of people with DA convictions who are guilty basically of throwing a plate at a wall. But that will result in DA convictions in many cases. It is wrong.
Laws preventing access do not prevent access. They criminalize normal activity. It is a fool's errand.
 
"The proliferation of guns". Another meaningless phrase.
There are about 100M guns in the United States. Probably more. If we shut down every gun maker and importer, there would still be 100M guns. generally they have a service life of nearly forever (I own several that are over 100 years old and work fine). All of them are potentially available to criminals through theft, etc.
Forget about the guns.

The main effort should be to restrict and control access to ammunition.

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Back to the top.

This topic has returned to the forefront again.

Armed with a legally purchased shotgun NOT AN AR-15, this shooter submitted to a background check plus he had an even more invasive security clearance background check.


What Constitutionally legal gun control would have prevented this shooting?
 
...initiative could have stopped the shooting at the school in Georgia?


The facts are:

The shooter was a convicted felon.

The shooter was mentally ill.

The crime scene was a gun free zone.

The firearm was stolen.

Everyone knows that the background check people who steal guns would have prevented...........oh, wait...
 
Back to the top.

This topic has returned to the forefront again.

Armed with a legally purchased shotgun NOT AN AR-15, this shooter submitted to a background check plus he had an even more invasive security clearance background check.


What Constitutionally legal gun control would have prevented this shooting?
NONE. Di FI and others are making more noise...and talking out their ASSES as usual. They refuse to admit there are nutsy Fagin people/EVIL in the world and want to give the upper hand to criminals.

BTW? I say the Clinton LAW that prohibits military people from carrying ON a military installation be rescinded. That LAW was sheer lunacy.


End Clinton-era Military Base Gun Ban

Among President Clinton’s first acts upon taking office in 1993 was to disarm U.S. soldiers on military bases. In March 1993, the Army imposed regulations forbidding military personnel from carrying their personal firearms and making it almost impossible for commanders to issue firearms to soldiers in the U.S. for personal protection. For the most part, only military police regularly carry firearms on base, and their presence is stretched thin by high demand for MPs in war zones.


Because of Mr. Clinton, terrorists would face more return fire if they attacked a Texas Wal-Mart than the gunman faced at Fort Hood, home of the heavily armed and feared 1st Cavalry Division. That’s why a civilian policewoman from off base was the one whose marksmanship ended Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan’s rampage.
 
I favor the mandatory control of all AMMUNITION -- and its sparing release to gun owners for well documented purposes.

It would also be good if the ammunition allotted to a person were "marked" in some way, so that if a spent bullet at a crime scene were recovered, it could be traced back to the individual who owned that particular bullet.

Let me guess. You've never even held a gun....
Actually, I did do some target practice as a child -- but then I put childish things behind me.
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It appears you haven't.
 
"the proliferation of guns". Another meaningless phrase.
There are about 100m guns in the united states. Probably more. If we shut down every gun maker and importer, there would still be 100m guns. Generally they have a service life of nearly forever (i own several that are over 100 years old and work fine). All of them are potentially available to criminals through theft, etc.
forget about the guns.

The main effort should be to restrict and control access to ammunition.

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why?
 
I favor the mandatory control of all AMMUNITION -- and its sparing release to gun owners for well documented purposes.

It would also be good if the ammunition allotted to a person were "marked" in some way, so that if a spent bullet at a crime scene were recovered, it could be traced back to the individual who owned that particular bullet.

Let me guess. You've never even held a gun....
Actually, I did do some target practice as a child -- but then I put childish things behind me.
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Childish things like TYRANTS banging on your door at night and YOU with NO recourse?

YOU=MORON and no concept of EVIL. EVEN your own Government...
 
Every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to pop off about gun control...until they are asked this question...then silence...
 
No world is perfect nor is any law.

Wow. You just realized that? Did you come up with that profound thought on your own or did your 2nd grade teacher tell you that?
How is that even relevant?

No law is perfect. But it should at least be somewhat effective. And gun control laws are not effective crime control. Criminal control is effective crime control.
 
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I am not as dense as most of the people here. I can recognise irony when it hits me over the head with a two-by-four.

Intelligent irony I appreciate. Too bad yours is about two situations which can only be distantly equated and so are not very comparable.
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That was sarcasm, Einstein. Learn the difference.
 
I favor the mandatory control of all AMMUNITION -- and its sparing release to gun owners for well documented purposes.

It would also be good if the ammunition allotted to a person were "marked" in some way, so that if a spent bullet at a crime scene were recovered, it could be traced back to the individual who owned that particular bullet.

Let me guess. You've never even held a gun....
Actually, I did do some target practice as a child -- but then I put childish things behind me.
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Well, that's certainly what you think, anyway.
 
"The proliferation of guns". Another meaningless phrase.
There are about 100M guns in the United States. Probably more. If we shut down every gun maker and importer, there would still be 100M guns. generally they have a service life of nearly forever (I own several that are over 100 years old and work fine). All of them are potentially available to criminals through theft, etc.
Forget about the guns.

The main effort should be to restrict and control access to ammunition.

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And now you're doubling down on your "I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about, but I think I'm so damned brilliant" remarks.

It was ignorant the first time you said it. Now that you've trotted it out again, AFTER being told how ignorant you were, it's just stupid.
 
"the proliferation of guns". Another meaningless phrase.
There are about 100m guns in the united states. Probably more. If we shut down every gun maker and importer, there would still be 100m guns. Generally they have a service life of nearly forever (i own several that are over 100 years old and work fine). All of them are potentially available to criminals through theft, etc.
forget about the guns.

The main effort should be to restrict and control access to ammunition.

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why?

Because Ignoranus there doesn't know how easy ammunition is to make.
 

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