What do conservatives support?

[Dale Smith]

I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

It is funny too, because a lot of the time they try to pass off bullshit.

Back when I was in school, I was suspended several times for contesting teachers, because it undermined their authority. My favorite activity was studying history scholars and classical philosophy, but government education has no room for free thought.

Thank god I dropped out when I did. Best decision I ever made in my life.

I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade. My reading comprehension scores were off the charts in grade school because I lived to read. I was on a first name basis with the local librarian at the school and the one by my home and I couldn't believe how it was never bustling with readers...I mean, you could find ANY thing to read for free! I questioned a lot of things that didn't seem right to me. I was on the speech team when I was a freshman in HS and I always picked the most controversial topics to speak on. I wasn't an "anti-authoritarian" but I had problems with laws (that I later learned were simply acts, statutes, codes and ordinances) and what actual functions they had a useful purpose other than control? I loved English Lit and would read waaaay ahead of the reading assignments and ace the tests even though I had read them weeks earlier. Algebra was a different topic and struggled with it. When I went to tech school and had to take Boolean algebra, I did fine but it never really helped me to troubleshoot an electronic circuit that I know of....

 

[Slyhunter]

So republicans are even against public education.

Many are for home schooling.

It isn't true public education. It is government education, and the way it conditions kids mentally and conforms kids socially, is absolutely despicable.

What the fuck do you support?

Freedom mate.

Something that does not exist in the slave state we are living in.

Home schooling is stupid.

Kids don't learn to socialize. Kids don't get a uniform education, so society including employers have no way of determining your actual abilities except if they THEN had to test you themselves. Which they won't do. Because there's plenty of public schooled people who go on to prestigious colleges. Or prestigiously private schooled.

You only CLAIM it's Government education but at the same time you suggest it really isn't much of an education at all...but rather shit.

You haven't looked for a job recently. Almost all employers gives you tests, online, prior to employment.

 

[irosie91]

I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

It is funny too, because a lot of the time they try to pass off bullshit.

Back when I was in school, I was suspended several times for contesting teachers, because it undermined their authority. My favorite activity was studying history scholars and classical philosophy, but government education has no room for free thought.

Thank god I dropped out when I did. Best decision I ever made in my life.

I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade. My reading comprehension scores were off the charts in grade school because I lived to read. I was on a first name basis with the local librarian at the school and the one by my home and I couldn't believe how it was never bustling with readers...I mean, you could find ANY thing to read for free! I questioned a lot of things that didn't seem right to me. I was on the speech team when I was a freshman in HS and I always picked the most controversial topics to speak on. I wasn't an "anti-authoritarian" but I had problems with laws (that I later learned were simply acts, statutes, codes and ordinances) and what actual functions they had a useful purpose other than control? I loved English Lit and would read waaaay ahead of the reading assignments and ace the tests even though I had read them weeks earlier. Algebra was a different topic and struggled with it. When I went to tech school and had to take Boolean algebra, I did fine but it never really helped me to troubleshoot an electronic circuit that I know of....

I took those tests in the fifth grade too------lets face it----you had to be congenitally retarded at that time to read ONLY
at grade level

 

[Dale Smith]

I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

It is funny too, because a lot of the time they try to pass off bullshit.

Back when I was in school, I was suspended several times for contesting teachers, because it undermined their authority. My favorite activity was studying history scholars and classical philosophy, but government education has no room for free thought.

Thank god I dropped out when I did. Best decision I ever made in my life.

I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade. My reading comprehension scores were off the charts in grade school because I lived to read. I was on a first name basis with the local librarian at the school and the one by my home and I couldn't believe how it was never bustling with readers...I mean, you could find ANY thing to read for free! I questioned a lot of things that didn't seem right to me. I was on the speech team when I was a freshman in HS and I always picked the most controversial topics to speak on. I wasn't an "anti-authoritarian" but I had problems with laws (that I later learned were simply acts, statutes, codes and ordinances) and what actual functions they had a useful purpose other than control? I loved English Lit and would read waaaay ahead of the reading assignments and ace the tests even though I had read them weeks earlier. Algebra was a different topic and struggled with it. When I went to tech school and had to take Boolean algebra, I did fine but it never really helped me to troubleshoot an electronic circuit that I know of....

I took those tests in the fifth grade too------lets face it----you had to be congenitally retarded at that time to read ONLY
at grade level

Yeah, but you would be amazed at the majority that struggled. I remember having to stifle giggles at those during "oral reading time" that didn't know how to pause after a period that separated sentences....holy shit, even back then we were being "dumbed down" and it fits right in with the findings of the Reece Committee and the tax free foundations that took over public education and the report by Norman Dodd.

 

[irosie91]

I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

It is funny too, because a lot of the time they try to pass off bullshit.

Back when I was in school, I was suspended several times for contesting teachers, because it undermined their authority. My favorite activity was studying history scholars and classical philosophy, but government education has no room for free thought.

Thank god I dropped out when I did. Best decision I ever made in my life.

I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade. My reading comprehension scores were off the charts in grade school because I lived to read. I was on a first name basis with the local librarian at the school and the one by my home and I couldn't believe how it was never bustling with readers...I mean, you could find ANY thing to read for free! I questioned a lot of things that didn't seem right to me. I was on the speech team when I was a freshman in HS and I always picked the most controversial topics to speak on. I wasn't an "anti-authoritarian" but I had problems with laws (that I later learned were simply acts, statutes, codes and ordinances) and what actual functions they had a useful purpose other than control? I loved English Lit and would read waaaay ahead of the reading assignments and ace the tests even though I had read them weeks earlier. Algebra was a different topic and struggled with it. When I went to tech school and had to take Boolean algebra, I did fine but it never really helped me to troubleshoot an electronic circuit that I know of....

I took those tests in the fifth grade too------lets face it----you had to be congenitally retarded at that time to read ONLY
at grade level

Yeah, but you would be amazed at the majority that struggled. I remember having to stifle giggles at those during "oral reading time" that didn't know how to pause after a period that separated sentences....holy shit, even back then we were being "dumbed down" and it fits right in with the findings of the Reece Committee and the tax free foundations that took over public education and the report by Norman Dodd.

I do not recall problem readers as being a "MAJORITY"-----I attended a town school in which all kids------regardless of
congenital brain damage vs normal-----sat in the same classes. -------I agree that some never could learn------most could and at least 1/3 were above grade level (my estimation based on
remote memory) I do recall that a large number of kids had
NO DESIRE TO READ.... like it was a torment to get thru
a little book

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Conservatives support Traditions, Values and the Rule of Law. The concepts of Law and Order along with Personal Responsibility are essential to Conservative ideology. A place for everyone, and everyone in their place.

Traditions and Values are the same fucking thing.

Meanwhile...WHOSE Traditions or Values?

The concept of "Law and Order"? Most Police are Democrats, nice try.

A place for everyone and everyone in their place:

Is a fucking Feudal concept enshrined in Dune. So Republicans admit they think they are the elite, and everyone else belongs beneath them llike slaves.

Pathetic shits.

Nailed it.

To them control over brown immigrants, brown Americans, brown muslims, poor folks and women is absolutely essential in preserving their tradition of white, male supremacy and the value system that teaches white and might are right.

 

[Dale Smith]

I could teach a child what they need to know one hour a day and make them better prepared for the REAL world than the public school system and that's a fact. Common Core is a fucking joke.

It is funny too, because a lot of the time they try to pass off bullshit.

Back when I was in school, I was suspended several times for contesting teachers, because it undermined their authority. My favorite activity was studying history scholars and classical philosophy, but government education has no room for free thought.

Thank god I dropped out when I did. Best decision I ever made in my life.

I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade. My reading comprehension scores were off the charts in grade school because I lived to read. I was on a first name basis with the local librarian at the school and the one by my home and I couldn't believe how it was never bustling with readers...I mean, you could find ANY thing to read for free! I questioned a lot of things that didn't seem right to me. I was on the speech team when I was a freshman in HS and I always picked the most controversial topics to speak on. I wasn't an "anti-authoritarian" but I had problems with laws (that I later learned were simply acts, statutes, codes and ordinances) and what actual functions they had a useful purpose other than control? I loved English Lit and would read waaaay ahead of the reading assignments and ace the tests even though I had read them weeks earlier. Algebra was a different topic and struggled with it. When I went to tech school and had to take Boolean algebra, I did fine but it never really helped me to troubleshoot an electronic circuit that I know of....

I took those tests in the fifth grade too------lets face it----you had to be congenitally retarded at that time to read ONLY
at grade level

Yeah, but you would be amazed at the majority that struggled. I remember having to stifle giggles at those during "oral reading time" that didn't know how to pause after a period that separated sentences....holy shit, even back then we were being "dumbed down" and it fits right in with the findings of the Reece Committee and the tax free foundations that took over public education and the report by Norman Dodd.

I do not recall problem readers as being a "MAJORITY"-----I attended a town school in which all kids------regardless of
congenital brain damage vs normal-----sat in the same classes. -------I agree that some never could learn------most could and at least 1/3 were above grade level (my estimation based on
remote memory) I do recall that a large number of kids had
NO DESIRE TO READ.... like it was a torment to get thru
a little book

I just remember how empty our school library was and the only activity it go was when it came to having to write a book report......me? I was there daily turning in books and checking new ones out. I didn't have a TV in my room nor did I have cable growing up and the shit my folks liked to watch wasn't interesting to me.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Its hard to tell.

Their messiah is announcing that under his plan, you can get paid for 6 weeks of Maternity leave.

Trump to call for six weeks paid maternity leave

They are, now, apparently the party of “free shit”.

He will no doubt co-opt more liberal ideas and his followers will hoot and holler their approval without even a thought.

 

[Dale Smith]

Its hard to tell.

Their messiah is announcing that under his plan, you can get paid for 6 weeks of Maternity leave.

Trump to call for six weeks paid maternity leave

They are, now, apparently the party of “free shit”.

He will no doubt co-op more liberal ideas and his followers will hoot and holler their approval without even a thought.

You mean Fabian Socialist ideas all designed to take down the system in the best Cloward-Piven tradition that will move the unwashed masses into a glorious revolution in the best tradition of Lenin and Marx? What you wish and hope for and the actual outcome are two very different things. What I wouldn't give to see you sitting on the curb when it all collapses as you await help from your beloved "gubermint" with your little head in your hands......that would be fuckin' PRICELESS!!


Ain't no such thing as a "gubermint" Santa Claus, dumb ass.........and you will find that out the hard way.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I've argued many times that conservatives are defined on what they oppose (gay marriage, taxes, change, the ERA, sex ed in school, abortion, free contraceptives, labor unions, the UN, democracy,
Affirmative Action/consent decrees, gun control, FEMA, the PPACA, Climate Change, a Government too large , (how large is too large for a nation of 300 + million?), public school teachers and other government employees - until they need them.

I've also posted the 14 points of Fascism, which, when applied to the statements / rhetoric of Trump are enlightening, and should IMO give pause to those opposed to an authoritarian federal government when considering a vote for the Republikan nominees. We don't need a Big Brother

Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Keep these sage comments i mind when in the voting booth:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

It's the consequence of being reactionary and frightened of change; you spend all your time opposed to everything you lose the ability to offer the American people something of value and merit.

 

[Dale Smith]

Conservatives support Traditions, Values and the Rule of Law. The concepts of Law and Order along with Personal Responsibility are essential to Conservative ideology. A place for everyone, and everyone in their place.

Traditions and Values are the same fucking thing.

Meanwhile...WHOSE Traditions or Values?

The concept of "Law and Order"? Most Police are Democrats, nice try.

A place for everyone and everyone in their place:

Is a fucking Feudal concept enshrined in Dune. So Republicans admit they think they are the elite, and everyone else belongs beneath them llike slaves.

Pathetic shits.

Nailed it.

To them control over brown immigrants, brown Americans, brown muslims, poor folks and women is absolutely essential in preserving their tradition of white, male supremacy and the value system that teaches white and might are right.

You mean "illegals".....get it right, dumb ass. BTW, you don't have the slightest fucking clue as to what is the biggest driving force behind poverty because you don't have the slightest clue on how the banking and financial industry works because you are just a little "arrested development" commie that feels like you are being "cheated".,......stupid fucks like you make me sick...seriously.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I've argued many times that conservatives are defined on what they oppose (gay marriage, taxes, change, the ERA, sex ed in school, abortion, free contraceptives, labor unions, the UN, democracy,
Affirmative Action/consent decrees, gun control, FEMA, the PPACA, Climate Change, a Government too large , (how large is too large for a nation of 300 + million?), public school teachers and other government employees - until they need them.

I've also posted the 14 points of Fascism, which, when applied to the statements / rhetoric of Trump are enlightening, and should IMO give pause to those opposed to an authoritarian federal government when considering a vote for the Republikan nominees. We don't need a Big Brother

Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Keep these sage comments i mind when in the voting booth:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

Despite your diatribes I support the same things today I did yesterday or last year or a decade before.
Family unity
Smaller less intrusive government
Personal responsibility
Hard work


This isn't Africa, there is no place for the un in America. This isn't 1940, there is no place for corrupt unions. I work for the things I need in life so your "free" shit ain't buying this man's vote

 

[Dale Smith]

I've argued many times that conservatives are defined on what they oppose (gay marriage, taxes, change, the ERA, sex ed in school, abortion, free contraceptives, labor unions, the UN, democracy,
Affirmative Action/consent decrees, gun control, FEMA, the PPACA, Climate Change, a Government too large , (how large is too large for a nation of 300 + million?), public school teachers and other government employees - until they need them.

I've also posted the 14 points of Fascism, which, when applied to the statements / rhetoric of Trump are enlightening, and should IMO give pause to those opposed to an authoritarian federal government when considering a vote for the Republikan nominees. We don't need a Big Brother

Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Keep these sage comments i mind when in the voting booth:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

It's the consequence of being reactionary and frightened of change; you spend all your time opposed to everything you lose the ability to offer the American people something of value and merit.

By change, you mean communism....just go ahead and say it, Clayton.......because God knows that you don't have the slightest clue as to why people are poor and stay poor...or why the middle class is declining.

 

[Dale Smith]

I've argued many times that conservatives are defined on what they oppose (gay marriage, taxes, change, the ERA, sex ed in school, abortion, free contraceptives, labor unions, the UN, democracy,
Affirmative Action/consent decrees, gun control, FEMA, the PPACA, Climate Change, a Government too large , (how large is too large for a nation of 300 + million?), public school teachers and other government employees - until they need them.

I've also posted the 14 points of Fascism, which, when applied to the statements / rhetoric of Trump are enlightening, and should IMO give pause to those opposed to an authoritarian federal government when considering a vote for the Republikan nominees. We don't need a Big Brother

Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

Keep these sage comments i mind when in the voting booth:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
MARTIN NIEMÖLLER

Despite your diatribes I support the same things today I did yesterday or last year or a decade before.
Family unity
Smaller less intrusive government
Personal responsibility
Hard work


This isn't Africa, there is no place for the un in America. This isn't 1940, there is no place for corrupt unions. I work for the things I need in life so your "free" shit ain't buying this man's vote[/QUOTE


You have to understand, the leftard clown posse doesn't believe that we need "less gubermint".....oh HELL no, they think the peoples need MO" gubermint...MO' fees, MO' entitlements and subsidies!!!!". Leftards can never get enough "gubermint"...da "gubermint" is their god and they worship at the feet of it like the good little marxists that they are.

 

[Onyx]

]
I was very combative with my teachers as well when I got into high school because I was reading on a 10th grade level when I was in the 5th grade.

I had an advanced college reading level coming out of primary school, and was also a huge fan of public speaking, although I never joined a speech association or club.

I was censored a lot verbally. It pissed off a lot of parents and administrators that I would preach some pretty controversial shit to a lot of other students. I went to two really huge liberal haven schools, so they would discipline me for having intelligent dialogue that "offended" other individuals.

I was expelled from my first school for questioning authority and "repeat offensive comments." I dropped out of my second school because I was heading towards expulsion for the same thing, although I would of flunked anyways.

 

[Onyx]

their god and they worship at the feet of it like the good little marxists that they are.

In respect to Marxists, they believe in a stateless society.

I have disagreements with Marxists for different reasons, but the modern liberal can best be put on a scale between Trotskyism and Maoism.

 

[Dale Smith]

their god and they worship at the feet of it like the good little marxists that they are.

In respect to Marxists, they believe in a stateless society.

I have disagreements with Marxists for different reasons, but the modern liberal can best be put on a scale between Trotskyism and Maoism.

Marxism= Trotskyism= Maoism.....not a c's hair worth of difference between the three and all jesuit inspired and that is a friggin' fact.

 

[Onyx]

Marxism= Trotskyism= Maoism.....not a c's hair worth of difference between the three and all jesuit inspired and that is a friggin' fact.

Well there actually is.

Marxists believe in abolishing established government, capitalism, and hierarchy.

Trotskyists believe in social democracy, so essentially they were the original Social-Democrats.

Maoists generally advocate in maintaining communism through revolution of the lower classes, delivered through industrial reorganization and empowering of a middle class vanguard.

Leninism and Stalinism share the same ideology of a united one world socialist state that embodies the communist revolution, although Stalin was more totalitarian and geopolitical focused.

There are a couple others, like Mahknovism, Dergism, ect. The above best describe the beliefs of modern liberals, with the obvious exclusion of Marxism.

Anyways, I am not a fan of any breed of communism, but they are not all cut from the same cloth.

 

[Avatar4321]

The constitution, limited government, the free market, eliminating corruption, fiscal responsibility, honor and integrity all of which made this nation great. This is specifically why we oppose Clinton and trump.

You'd think after posting here for years you would know that already.

 

[Dale Smith]

Marxism= Trotskyism= Maoism.....not a c's hair worth of difference between the three and all jesuit inspired and that is a friggin' fact.

Well there actually is.

Marxists believe in abolishing established government, capitalism, and hierarchy.

Trotskyists believe in social democracy, so essentially they were the original Social-Democrats.

Maoists generally advocate in maintaining communism through revolution of the lower classes, delivered through industrial reorganization and empowering a middle class vanguard.

Leninism and Stalinism share the same ideology of a united one world socialist state that embodies the communist revolution, although Stalin was more totalitarian and geopolitical focused.

There are a couple others, like Mahknovism, Dergism, ect. The above best describe the beliefs of modern liberals, with the obvious exclusion of Marxism.

Anyways, I am not a fan of any breed of communism, but they are not all cut from the same cloth.

I have no problem with agreeing to disagree......I believe that I have a pretty good grasp on the idea of communism and the origins of it. One thing I can assure you is that there could have been no USSR and no Communist China without Wall Street and the banking oligarchs working in conjunction with the Vatican.