What does the religious right want from the Hobby Lobby mess?

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Read This One Document To Understand What The Christian Right Hopes To Gain From Hobby Lobby | ThinkProgress

Even they know that contraception does not cause abortion so what are they really up to?

2009 was a grim year for social conservatives. Barack Obama was an ambitious and popular new president. Republicans, and their conservative philosophy, were largely discredited in the public eye by a failed war and a massive recession. And the GOP’s effort to reshape its message was still in its awkward adolescence. If the conservative movement had a mascot, it would have been a white man dressed as Paul Revere and waving a misspelled sign.

Amidst this wreckage, more than two hundred of the nation’s leading Christian conservatives joined together in a statement expressing their dismay at the state of the nation. “Many in the present administration want to make abortions legal at any stage of fetal development,” their statement claimed, while “[m]ajorities in both houses of Congress hold pro-abortion views.” Meanwhile, they feared that the liberals who now controlled the country “are very often in the vanguard of those who would trample upon the freedom of others to express their religious and moral commitments to the sanctity of life and to the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife.”

The signatories to this statement, which they named the “Manhattan Declaration,” included many of America’s most prominent Catholic bishops and clergy of similar prominence in other Christian sects. It included leaders of top anti-gay organizations like the National Organization for Marriage, and of more broadly focused conservative advocacy shops such as the Family Research Council. It included university presidents and deans from Christian conservative colleges. And it included the top editors from many of the Christian right’s leading publications.

Perhaps most significantly, however, the document’s signatories includes Alan Sears, the head of one of the two conservative legal groups litigating what are likely to be the two most important cases decided by the Supreme Court this term. Indeed, the Manhattan Declaration offers a virtual roadmap to understanding what religious conservatives hope to gain from Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood v. Sebelius, two cases the justices will hear Tuesday which present the question whether a business owner’s religious objections to birth control trump their legal obligation to include it in their employee’s health plan.

Read the rest at the link.


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they want to make their employees miss out on any form of contraceptions device..In other words they want them to be a Catholic instead of a Protestant..
 
Religousphobes coming out of the wood work. They just want to live by their religious belief, get over it. Hypicrites.
 
This was never about religious beliefs.

Never.

Its about control and forcing others to your wacko religious beliefs.

The people who want this anti-Constitutional ruling hate children and would kick a starving child out of the way in the street. Just read the posts here for evidence of that deep seated hatred of real live human children. Its the libs, the progressives who want to care for the children who are here while all the haters have to say is, "she should have kept her legs closed" and men aren't responsible for pregnancies.
 
This was never about religious beliefs.

Never.

Its about control and forcing others to your wacko religious beliefs.

The people who want this anti-Constitutional ruling hate children and would kick a starving child out of the way in the street. Just read the posts here for evidence of that deep seated hatred of real live human children. Its the libs, the progressives who want to care for the children who are here while all the haters have to say is, "she should have kept her legs closed" and men aren't responsible for pregnancies.

Think nutty, if you wacko leberal loonies didn't force obama care on us, we wouldn't be talking about hobby lobby.
 
this was never about religious beliefs.

Never.

Its about control and forcing others to your wacko religious beliefs.

The people who want this anti-constitutional ruling hate children and would kick a starving child out of the way in the street. Just read the posts here for evidence of that deep seated hatred of real live human children. Its the libs, the progressives who want to care for the children who are here while all the haters have to say is, "she should have kept her legs closed" and men aren't responsible for pregnancies.

bull shit!!!
 
If Liberal women want us Conservatives "Out of their Box", then we want completely out. That includes paying for medications that allow them use their "box". They can pay for their own medications.
 
This was never about religious beliefs.

Never.

Its about control and forcing others to your wacko religious beliefs.

The people who want this anti-Constitutional ruling hate children and would kick a starving child out of the way in the street. Just read the posts here for evidence of that deep seated hatred of real live human children. Its the libs, the progressives who want to care for the children who are here while all the haters have to say is, "she should have kept her legs closed" and men aren't responsible for pregnancies.

You can lie to other,but continuing the same lie to one self,is really screwed up,get help.

Real live human childern??don't think you know who they are!
 
Hmmm Luddly
perhaps they are jealous that God allows secular govt to be abused to push
"Right to Health Care" agenda but doesn't allow Christians to abuse govt to push
"Right to Life" agenda for the same reasons.

After all, Christians are held to a higher standard, and must obey both
Scriptural Law and Secular Law and Civil Authority.

While "Prochoice" activists can use govt for "whatever partisan agenda" they want
because they have not committed to the same Constitutional standards as Christians are held.

Read This One Document To Understand What The Christian Right Hopes To Gain From Hobby Lobby | ThinkProgress

Even they know that contraception does not cause abortion so what are they really up to?

2009 was a grim year for social conservatives. Barack Obama was an ambitious and popular new president. Republicans, and their conservative philosophy, were largely discredited in the public eye by a failed war and a massive recession. And the GOP’s effort to reshape its message was still in its awkward adolescence. If the conservative movement had a mascot, it would have been a white man dressed as Paul Revere and waving a misspelled sign.

Amidst this wreckage, more than two hundred of the nation’s leading Christian conservatives joined together in a statement expressing their dismay at the state of the nation. “Many in the present administration want to make abortions legal at any stage of fetal development,” their statement claimed, while “[m]ajorities in both houses of Congress hold pro-abortion views.” Meanwhile, they feared that the liberals who now controlled the country “are very often in the vanguard of those who would trample upon the freedom of others to express their religious and moral commitments to the sanctity of life and to the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife.”

The signatories to this statement, which they named the “Manhattan Declaration,” included many of America’s most prominent Catholic bishops and clergy of similar prominence in other Christian sects. It included leaders of top anti-gay organizations like the National Organization for Marriage, and of more broadly focused conservative advocacy shops such as the Family Research Council. It included university presidents and deans from Christian conservative colleges. And it included the top editors from many of the Christian right’s leading publications.

Perhaps most significantly, however, the document’s signatories includes Alan Sears, the head of one of the two conservative legal groups litigating what are likely to be the two most important cases decided by the Supreme Court this term. Indeed, the Manhattan Declaration offers a virtual roadmap to understanding what religious conservatives hope to gain from Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood v. Sebelius, two cases the justices will hear Tuesday which present the question whether a business owner’s religious objections to birth control trump their legal obligation to include it in their employee’s health plan.

Read the rest at the link.


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Hmmm Luddly
perhaps they are jealous that God allows secular govt to be abused to push
"Right to Health Care" agenda but doesn't allow Christians to abuse govt to push
"Right to Life" agenda for the same reasons.

After all, Christians are held to a higher standard, and must obey both
Scriptural Law and Secular Law and Civil Authority.

While "Prochoice" activists can use govt for "whatever partisan agenda" they want
because they have not committed to the same Constitutional standards as Christians are held.

Read This One Document To Understand What The Christian Right Hopes To Gain From Hobby Lobby | ThinkProgress

Even they know that contraception does not cause abortion so what are they really up to?

2009 was a grim year for social conservatives. Barack Obama was an ambitious and popular new president. Republicans, and their conservative philosophy, were largely discredited in the public eye by a failed war and a massive recession. And the GOP’s effort to reshape its message was still in its awkward adolescence. If the conservative movement had a mascot, it would have been a white man dressed as Paul Revere and waving a misspelled sign.

Amidst this wreckage, more than two hundred of the nation’s leading Christian conservatives joined together in a statement expressing their dismay at the state of the nation. “Many in the present administration want to make abortions legal at any stage of fetal development,” their statement claimed, while “[m]ajorities in both houses of Congress hold pro-abortion views.” Meanwhile, they feared that the liberals who now controlled the country “are very often in the vanguard of those who would trample upon the freedom of others to express their religious and moral commitments to the sanctity of life and to the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife.”

The signatories to this statement, which they named the “Manhattan Declaration,” included many of America’s most prominent Catholic bishops and clergy of similar prominence in other Christian sects. It included leaders of top anti-gay organizations like the National Organization for Marriage, and of more broadly focused conservative advocacy shops such as the Family Research Council. It included university presidents and deans from Christian conservative colleges. And it included the top editors from many of the Christian right’s leading publications.

Perhaps most significantly, however, the document’s signatories includes Alan Sears, the head of one of the two conservative legal groups litigating what are likely to be the two most important cases decided by the Supreme Court this term. Indeed, the Manhattan Declaration offers a virtual roadmap to understanding what religious conservatives hope to gain from Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood v. Sebelius, two cases the justices will hear Tuesday which present the question whether a business owner’s religious objections to birth control trump their legal obligation to include it in their employee’s health plan.

Read the rest at the link.


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Funny how that works,sad at the same time.
 
They want to get the camel's nose in the tent. That is, set the stage for further claims of "The courts say I can discriminate against you because of my religion."
 
They want to get the camel's nose in the tent. That is, set the stage for further claims of "The courts say I can discriminate against you because of my religion."

Liar.

We just don't want to pay for your Birth Control. You want to play? You pay.

It really is that simple.
 
Read This One Document To Understand What The Christian Right Hopes To Gain From Hobby Lobby | ThinkProgress

Even they know that contraception does not cause abortion so what are they really up to?

2009 was a grim year for social conservatives. Barack Obama was an ambitious and popular new president. Republicans, and their conservative philosophy, were largely discredited in the public eye by a failed war and a massive recession. And the GOP’s effort to reshape its message was still in its awkward adolescence. If the conservative movement had a mascot, it would have been a white man dressed as Paul Revere and waving a misspelled sign.

Amidst this wreckage, more than two hundred of the nation’s leading Christian conservatives joined together in a statement expressing their dismay at the state of the nation. “Many in the present administration want to make abortions legal at any stage of fetal development,” their statement claimed, while “[m]ajorities in both houses of Congress hold pro-abortion views.” Meanwhile, they feared that the liberals who now controlled the country “are very often in the vanguard of those who would trample upon the freedom of others to express their religious and moral commitments to the sanctity of life and to the dignity of marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife.”

The signatories to this statement, which they named the “Manhattan Declaration,” included many of America’s most prominent Catholic bishops and clergy of similar prominence in other Christian sects. It included leaders of top anti-gay organizations like the National Organization for Marriage, and of more broadly focused conservative advocacy shops such as the Family Research Council. It included university presidents and deans from Christian conservative colleges. And it included the top editors from many of the Christian right’s leading publications.

Perhaps most significantly, however, the document’s signatories includes Alan Sears, the head of one of the two conservative legal groups litigating what are likely to be the two most important cases decided by the Supreme Court this term. Indeed, the Manhattan Declaration offers a virtual roadmap to understanding what religious conservatives hope to gain from Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood v. Sebelius, two cases the justices will hear Tuesday which present the question whether a business owner’s religious objections to birth control trump their legal obligation to include it in their employee’s health plan.
Read the rest at the link.


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That would depend on the type of contraceptive, wouldn't it?

By the way, since I, and other libertarian leaning posters, have been arguing exactly the same thing here for years, what makes you think Pink Thogress discovered anything?
 
they want to make their employees miss out on any form of contraceptions device..In other words they want them to be a Catholic instead of a Protestant..

If they wanted to be Catholic they would be arguing that their religion forbids them from supplying any contraceptives at all, like Little Sisters of the Poor.

By the way, why do nuns need contraception again?
 
This was never about religious beliefs.

Never.

Its about control and forcing others to your wacko religious beliefs.

The people who want this anti-Constitutional ruling hate children and would kick a starving child out of the way in the street. Just read the posts here for evidence of that deep seated hatred of real live human children. Its the libs, the progressives who want to care for the children who are here while all the haters have to say is, "she should have kept her legs closed" and men aren't responsible for pregnancies.

For you, it is about for control, I am so glad you finally admitted that.

For the people who oppose you, it is about freedom.
 
They want to get the camel's nose in the tent. That is, set the stage for further claims of "The courts say I can discriminate against you because of my religion."

Because forcing people to attend weddings is the ultimate expression of freedom, right?
 

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