What exactly does BLM want?

[Indeependent]

Why even create this thread if all your purpose is to deceive and lie?

There are a percentage of people who can not compete. And it is painful to admit it. The Black community have their share and it may be higher. Some of the job classifications they are not in that much. And quotas have put some in that are not that good. The same for every other real privileged group. White males have been the biggest losers in this. There are millions and millions of impoverished white males with no privileged agenda programs upfront for them Black males have suffered because they are not at the top of quota list. This is truth. No malice in it. You see it in all of our key industries. From science to industrial to manufacturing and more. At some point we will come to realize this. If it is to late when it comes it will not be nice. It may not be nice anyway.

I only partially agree with that post.
My original career has been destroyed by Business Visas.
I saw many Blacks being laid off in IT just like Whites.
And then I wonder why Blacks don't petition Congress about this issue.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This is a serious inquiry. What specifically would satisfy BLM and cause them to stop rioting and destroying things?

the BLM NY leader was on Fox last night and was asked that exact question, he dodged and did not answer.

If you reply please no talking points, just specifics

They told you. The destruction of this country and replace it with them at the top

Lincoln warned us

 

[Crepitus]

What exactly does BLM want?

Equal treatment.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What exactly does BLM want?

Seems pretty obvious to those who are not lying their asses off, that BLM wants communism.

 

[Snouter]

Basically to erase White (real) history and replace it with Afro-Centric (the fake mythology that Blacks invented everything, were seafaring before Whites, etc.) history. And of course to replace the White population with Afrocans. It is a slow motion pattern similar to every country Blacks insist on a race war with Whites. Such regions invariably go from potential first world countries (Haiti, South Africa, etc.) and cities (Chicago, Detroit, etc.) that are safe and civilized, to lawless, third world cesspools where savages have intertribal warfare and Whites are random targets of violence.

 

[forkup]

Specific examples of police brutality are in great demand, and yet the supply is woefully short.

Hence they (the BLM crew) must explode the importance of the extremely rare instances, pretend that they are endemic, then ignore or obfuscate the criminality of the "victims." JUST ONCE show me a Black victim of police violence who is in fact completely innocent. They do exist, but as said above, the supply is very short.

If the BLM crew is looking for "equality," they will be disappointed. The only equality they can have is the one they already do have - the one guaranteed by the Constitution. There is no "systemic racism." That is a catch-all phrase that cannot be defined by examples because none exist. Show me an applicant for ANYTHING who is turned down because of his or her race. Doesn't happen any more, except in small irrelevant companies that are a dime a dozen. If one turns you down, there are ten others with the Welcome Mat out for you.

All men are created equal. But that refers to OPPORTUNITY and not RESULTS. You are responsible for your own results. Deal with it.

The Color of Justice: Racial and Ethnic Disparity in State Prisons – The Sentencing Project

Black Americans are incarcerated in state prisons across the country at nearly five times the rate of whites.

www.sentencingproject.org

Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System – The Sentencing Project

Report to the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Contemporary Forms of Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia, and Related Intolerance

www.sentencingproject.org

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bja/184768.pdf

The constitution guarantees equal protection under the law. Statistics don't show that, blacks are not just more likely to be arrested, they are also more likely to get sentenced harsher.

Racial profiling is not just pervasive but also discriminatory in its nature.

when you commit crimes you get arrested ... and when you keep committing crimes become a habitual scum bag repeat offender you get more time in jail.

And yet that's not what the report shows. Same crimes, harsher sentences.

The problem is your reports (and I've read several like them) compare apples to oranges.

A young white guy gets busted with some coke, and a black guy gets busted with the same amount.

The white guy when busted surrenders to police and cooperates fully. While being processed, he doesn't give them any hard time. He ends up in court, very well dressed, new hair cut, and pays attention to the proceedings. When allowed to speak, he apologizes to the court, tells them he simply made a very stupid mistake. The judge (who has his criminal record) only sees that one charge.

The black guy when busted run from the cops. In the process, he tries to get rid of the evidence. When the cops catch up to him, he starts fighting them. When the police find the bag he threw away, he states it isn't his, even though one of the officers seen him throw the bag. When he gets to the station, he refuses to cooperate. He ends up in court looking like he just left a bar. He's rolling his eyes during the proceeding, not looking at the judge or the prosecutor, shaking his head back and forth. The judge not only watches his disrespect for the court, but looks at is criminal record which is lengthy, especially for a guy his age.

Can you tell me why these two different judges would give both offenders the same sentence?

So your counter-argument against a report filed to the UN a report that you don't dispute the facts of is a hypothetical anecdote that would at best count as an excuse? Can you tell the difference between the strengths of our argument?

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

This is a serious inquiry. What specifically would satisfy BLM and cause them to stop rioting and destroying things?

the BLM NY leader was on Fox last night and was asked that exact question, he dodged and did not answer.

If you reply please no talking points, just specifics

BLM are Marxists, this is why the Leftists support them.

^^^^ This:

BLM Founder Mentored by Ex-Domestic Terrorist Worked with Bill Ayers

The co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement was the protégé of a communist-supporting domestic terrorist for over a decade.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Why even create this thread if all your purpose is to deceive and lie?

I notice you didn’t try to explain it at all. You have a golden opportunity to do so. Let’s hear it.

 

[Mac1958]

Why even create this thread if all your purpose is to deceive and lie?

Any functioning adult who claims to truly not know what's going on here, whether they agree with it or not, is simply being obtuse. What is happening is not some big secret, nor are its reasons, and it has existed in the big picture for generations. And longer.

One would have to consciously avoid news and opinion to be in the dark here.

Difficult to imagine this is serious.

 

[eagle1462010]

Whatever their demands are today will be more tomorrow..............which is why we don't negotiate with Terrorists...........

They are a movement....along with Antifa who use Fear and violence to achieve a political goal or power which is the definition of a terrorist................

This happens every election cycle..........and the DNC is behind it every stinking time.........

They need a taste of their own medicine.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Why even create this thread if all your purpose is to deceive and lie?

Any functioning adult who claims to truly not know what's going on here, whether they agree with it or not, is simply being obtuse. What is happening is not some big secret, nor are its reasons, and it has existed in the big picture for generations. And longer.

One would have to consciously avoid news and opinion to be in the dark here.

Difficult to imagine this is serious.

Do you really not believe the very words of the BLM founder. Do you NOT see the symbols used by BLM and their DIRECT correlation with Marxist symbols?

We have too many people burying their heads in the sand. Jesus.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Why even create this thread if all your purpose is to deceive and lie?

Any functioning adult who claims to truly not know what's going on here, whether they agree with it or not, is simply being obtuse. What is happening is not some big secret, nor are its reasons, and it has existed in the big picture for generations. And longer.

One would have to consciously avoid news and opinion to be in the dark here.

Difficult to imagine this is serious.

Do you really not believe the very words of the BLM founder. Do you NOT see the symbols used by BLM and their DIRECT correlation with Marxist symbols?

We have too many people burying their heads in the sand. Jesus.

"Do you really not believe the very words of the BLM founder."

No they don't they think it's another Russian Conspiracy Theory or whatever

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Hegel said the slave does not dream of freedom. The slave dreams of being master.

Black people never have seen themselves as being a free people. They have always been slaves. In their heads they are consumed with dreams of slavery. What they want is to be the master. But a master that is still cared for as a slave.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

This is a serious inquiry. What specifically would satisfy BLM and cause them to stop rioting and destroying things?

the BLM NY leader was on Fox last night and was asked that exact question, he dodged and did not answer.

If you reply please no talking points, just specifics

^^^^ More of what BLM want, in their OWN words:

This:

Black Lives Matter Leader Says We'll 'Burn Down the System' if Blacks Aren't Satisfied

pjmedia.com

This:

Black Lives Matter Leader Threatens to 'Burn Down' America. Trump Responds in Kind

pjmedia.com

 

[easyt65]

Both Antifa and BLM leaders have now been exposed for having ties to and being funded by George Soros, Maduro / Venezuela, and other enemies outside the country.

They are using the same destabilizing tactics the US has used in other nations....

And moron Democrats like Nadler who stood up on the floor of the House and declared there is no such group called 'Antifa'.

No one, not even Nadler, is that stupid, which means he and other Democrats have chosen to stand with, aid, abet and facilitate the Socialist attacks and destabilization perpetrated by the proven foreign- funded, outside enemy influenced domestic terrorist groups Antifa and BLM.


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[Snouter]

As folks have mentioned, this has been in the works for a long time! Very troubling. As we have seen lately in particular, most of the USA has Deep State, anti-Americans in government jobs. A couple years ago, Tucker noted the racists in government wanted to pull down Columbus statues, and celebrate and White-hating, genocidal maniac from Haiti.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Specific examples of police brutality are in great demand, and yet the supply is woefully short.

Hence they (the BLM crew) must explode the importance of the extremely rare instances, pretend that they are endemic, then ignore or obfuscate the criminality of the "victims." JUST ONCE show me a Black victim of police violence who is in fact completely innocent. They do exist, but as said above, the supply is very short.

If the BLM crew is looking for "equality," they will be disappointed. The only equality they can have is the one they already do have - the one guaranteed by the Constitution. There is no "systemic racism." That is a catch-all phrase that cannot be defined by examples because none exist. Show me an applicant for ANYTHING who is turned down because of his or her race. Doesn't happen any more, except in small irrelevant companies that are a dime a dozen. If one turns you down, there are ten others with the Welcome Mat out for you.

All men are created equal. But that refers to OPPORTUNITY and not RESULTS. You are responsible for your own results. Deal with it.

The Color of Justice: Racial and Ethnic Disparity in State Prisons – The Sentencing Project

Black Americans are incarcerated in state prisons across the country at nearly five times the rate of whites.

www.sentencingproject.org

Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System – The Sentencing Project

Report to the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Contemporary Forms of Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia, and Related Intolerance

www.sentencingproject.org

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bja/184768.pdf

The constitution guarantees equal protection under the law. Statistics don't show that, blacks are not just more likely to be arrested, they are also more likely to get sentenced harsher.

Racial profiling is not just pervasive but also discriminatory in its nature.

when you commit crimes you get arrested ... and when you keep committing crimes become a habitual scum bag repeat offender you get more time in jail.

And yet that's not what the report shows. Same crimes, harsher sentences.

The problem is your reports (and I've read several like them) compare apples to oranges.

A young white guy gets busted with some coke, and a black guy gets busted with the same amount.

The white guy when busted surrenders to police and cooperates fully. While being processed, he doesn't give them any hard time. He ends up in court, very well dressed, new hair cut, and pays attention to the proceedings. When allowed to speak, he apologizes to the court, tells them he simply made a very stupid mistake. The judge (who has his criminal record) only sees that one charge.

The black guy when busted run from the cops. In the process, he tries to get rid of the evidence. When the cops catch up to him, he starts fighting them. When the police find the bag he threw away, he states it isn't his, even though one of the officers seen him throw the bag. When he gets to the station, he refuses to cooperate. He ends up in court looking like he just left a bar. He's rolling his eyes during the proceeding, not looking at the judge or the prosecutor, shaking his head back and forth. The judge not only watches his disrespect for the court, but looks at is criminal record which is lengthy, especially for a guy his age.

Can you tell me why these two different judges would give both offenders the same sentence?

So your counter-argument against a report filed to the UN a report that you don't dispute the facts of is a hypothetical anecdote that would at best count as an excuse? Can you tell the difference between the strengths of our argument?

My point is that you (and these studies) only look at the bottom line. There is a lot of in-between that is ignored. I've been to court. I was in a judges chamber when he interviewed the police on the conduct of the person involved; he interviewed me. It was not pleasant, and it was a black guy. The judge did not favor him very much based on what we told him.

We don't penalize people simply on the thing they are being in court for. If it were that easy, and everybody got the same penalty regardless of circumstance, then we would only need a printer to spit out the same sentence no matter what each and every time.

We have judges for a reason. The judge has to weigh everything in a case, not just the charge itself. In my example above, a judge is not likely to throw the book at a guy who got caught up in a bad situation, making him a felon, and spending the best years of his life in prison for a simple mistake. Conversely, he's not going to give a guy a break who's been in and out of the slammer repeatedly, especially if it's the same kind of crime.

Since this subject rears it's ugly head from time to time, I'm going to throw you a bone here. One day I asked a friend of mine, who works in the justice system in downtown Cleveland if he thought blacks get harsher sentences than whites? He said he had no statistics available, but his opinion is that yes, depending on the judge, at times they do.

But guess what? The judges he was referring to were black judges. It makes sense. If a white judge had animosity to black people in general, the worst thing he could do for a black community is get that criminal back out on their streets. The best thing he could do is lock up that criminal for as long as possible.

A black judge is the opposite. He or she may live in those black communities, or perhaps family or friends. The best thing that black judge could do is throw the book at a black criminal. They want to rid their society of such people, not give them a slap on the hand for them to return and cause more trouble.

 

[yidnar]

What exactly does BLM want?

Equal treatment.

cool ...lets get rid of affirmative action and racial hiring quotas ..... if you arent qualified you dont get the job ... you dont get extra points for being a minority .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What exactly does BLM want?

Equal treatment.

cool ...lets get rid of affirmative action and racial hiring quotas ..... if you arent qualified you dont get the job ... you dont get extra points for being a minority .

And while we're at it, lets get rid of Hate Crime laws. What are Hate Crime laws? Laws that give additional punishment to somebody that attacked or killed a likely Democrat voter.

 

[Crepitus]

What exactly does BLM want?

Equal treatment.

cool ...lets get rid of affirmative action and racial hiring quotas ..... if you arent qualified you dont get the job ... you dont get extra points for being a minority .

You're such a fuckin' moron you don't even realize that affirmative action is to balance out the extra "points" as you put it, that your dumb ass gets just for being white.

Conservatives are blind, deaf, and dumb, emphasis on dumb.