What Geology reveal regarding the FLOOD of Noah's time.

[surada]

Actually, evidence of a "global flood" would likely be about 12-15,000 years back when the last glacial covering of the most recent Ice Age existed. And then began to rapidly melt away ....

Glaciers don't melt rapidly.

 

[Wuwei]

Seems like the oldest flood story is 10,000 years ago.

Ancient Greek Flood Myth of Deucalion and Pyrrha

Deucalion and Pyrrha are two characters who are described in the flood myth in Ovid's Metamorphoses. Learn about their role in Greek mythology.

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Great flood tales appear in many different Greek and Roman documents—Hesiod's The Theogony (8th century BCE), Plato's Timeaus (5th century BCE), Aristotle's Meteorology (4th century BCE), Greek Old Testament or Septuagint (3rd century BCE), ... ​

Greek Mythology:

The son of the immortal Titan Prometheus, Deucalion is warned by his father of the coming Bronze Age-ending flood, and he builds a small boat to carry him and his cousin-wife Pyrrha, (the daughter of Prometheus' brother Epimetheus and Pandora) to safety. ​

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Deucalion and Pyrrha survive in the skiff for nine days, and when their boat lands on Mt. Parnassus, they discover that they are the only ones left. ... ​

The other animals are spontaneously created from the earth.​

Although still a myth, the surviving of the flood in nine days with no ark is more plausible. The last sentence sounds like a repeat of abiogenesis.

Pandora was the first woman and was created by one of the Gods (not with a rib.) Also, similar to Eve, through a lapse in temptation, she let out the woes of the world.

There seems to be a common thread in Greek Mythology and the old Testament.

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[james bond]

Seems like the oldest flood story is 10,000 years ago.

These fables are based on the real global flood.

 

[surada]

These fables are based on the real global flood.

Floods.. Local floods could be devastating. But, fortunately many ancient cities and monuments were never flooded.

Noah's flood was inspired by the Gilgamesh myth which in turn came from a real flood of the Euphrates River Basin.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There seems to be a common thread in Greek Mythology and the old Testament.

May I suggest that the only actual "common thread" is that all of the humans that have ever lived and who have ever invented mythology...

...have all lived on the same planet, and that planet has floods?

 

[abu afak]

Just elephants, their feeding, drinking, and dung.

Many sites: ""Adult elephants require an enormous amount of food. Elephants may spend 12-18 hours a day feeding. Adult elephants can eat between 200-600 pounds of food a day. As herbivores, elephants consume grasses, tree foliage, bark, twigs, and other vegetation daily. Elephants can also drink up to 50 gallons of water a day about as much as a standard bathtub holds.""
(Someone mentioned planter boxes under tiny windows with it cloudy and raining for 40 days: LOL. )

So two elephants a day Alone need app 800 lbs x 40 days or 32,000 lbs of food.

and 100 gallons of water x 40 = 4000 gallons = another 32,000 lbs.

Thy poop 8-12 times day each producing 300lbs of Dung x2= 600lbs x 40 days = 24,000 lbs.
That confined would pile up very quickly without a giant amount of dedicated/Not stall or 'just fit' space.
Probably needing app 1 of the arks 3 floors just for them. (app 450x75)

Not to mention Dinosaurs, Rhinos, Giraffes, horse (kinds), Moose, Hippos, Gorillas: (meat for) LIONS, Crocodiles, etc, etc, etc.
IOW, you'd probably need at least 1,000,000 lbs++? of food (and water) for all the animals of any size.
And daily feeding/scooping of tons of dung. A crew of scores of people.

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[Wuwei]

These fables are based on the real global flood.

With strong parallels between Eve and Pandora, and a flood with few survivors, it is more likely the Greeks and Jewish people copied myths from each other.

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[Wuwei]

May I suggest that the only actual "common thread" is that all of the humans that have ever lived and who have ever invented mythology...

...have all lived on the same planet, and that planet has floods?

Yes floods are real and frequent events. There is also the non-real and infrequent event of Pandora and Eve being the first women created by a god.

 

[surada]

With strong parallels between Eve and Pandora, and a flood with few survivors, it is more likely the Greeks and Jewish people copied myths from each other.

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james bond

ChemEngineer

If you have a chance read History Begins at Sumer. Samuel Noah Kramer spent 50 years translating the clay tablets that date 1500 years before Adam and Eve.

Eden Revisited: The Sumerian Version | Ancient Origins ...

Eden Revisited: The Sumerian Version

Sumer, in Mesopotamia, was called ‘the land of civilized kings’. It reached its peak around 6,500 years ago when it had the distinction of being a very advanced civilization with a sophisticated written language

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Eden Revisited: The Sumerian Version. By jim willis; 0; Sumer, in Mesopotamia, was called ‘the land of civilized kings’. It reached its peak around 6,500 years ago when it had the distinction of being a very advanced civilization with a sophisticated written language, magnificent architecture for the time, complex mathematics, and amazing astronomy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes floods are real and frequent events. There is also the non-real and infrequent event of Pandora and Eve being the first women created by a god.

Well I would be surprised if they focused on the second or third women. Makes for a lame creation story.

"God created the second woman, then..."

"But who created the first woman, then?"

"Oh shit, let's start over."

 

[Wuwei]

Not to mention Dinosaurs, Rhinos, Giraffes, horse (kinds), Moose, Hippos, Gorillas: (meat for) LIONS, Crocodiles, etc, etc, etc.
IOW, you'd probably need at least 1,000,000 lbs++? of food (and water) for all the animals of any size.

The lions, tigers, crocs, etc ate all the dinosaurs.

 

[Stryder50]

Glaciers don't melt rapidly.

Might depend on how one defines "rapidly".
One probability oft overlooked would be large scale tsunami events from an asteroid impact.

 

[Wuwei]

If you have a chance read History Begins at Sumer. Samuel Noah Kramer spent 50 years translating the clay tablets that date 1500 years before Adam and Eve.

I read parts of Bulfinch's Mythology a few decades ago. The book quite dated (late 1800's), but, of course, so is the mythology.

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[surada]

Might depend on how one defines "rapidly".
One probability oft overlooked would be large scale tsunami events from an asteroid impact.

Couple thousand years.. The retreat of the glaciers far to the north of Arabia changed the peninsula from savanna to arid from 14,000 to 9,000 years ago.

Its not a supernatural thing.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Might depend on how one defines "rapidly".

No, it "might'nt". We know how rapidly they melted. Sea levels rose one centimeter per year.

 

[Stryder50]

No, it "might'nt". We know how rapidly they melted. Sea levels rose one centimeter per year.

On a geological scale that's still "rapid".
Judging from the erosion channels created by the major rivers here in Eastern Washington State, such as the Columbia, that flow had to be more than one centimeter worth. Might have averaged that over thousands of years, but could have been rather significant at times.

These tend to be rather conjectural, and vary a bit, but for some clue on then versus now;

As we see here, temperatures can change rather "rapidly".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

On a geological scale that's still "rapid".

Okay, but rocks didn't write the Bible. And if the entire sea level rise happened in one day, it still would not have been a global flood.

 

[james bond]

james bond

ChemEngineer

If you have a chance read History Begins at Sumer. Samuel Noah Kramer spent 50 years translating the clay tablets that date 1500 years before Adam and Eve.

Eden Revisited: The Sumerian Version | Ancient Origins ...

Eden Revisited: The Sumerian Version

Sumer, in Mesopotamia, was called ‘the land of civilized kings’. It reached its peak around 6,500 years ago when it had the distinction of being a very advanced civilization with a sophisticated written language

members.ancient-origins.net

Eden Revisited: The Sumerian Version. By jim willis; 0; Sumer, in Mesopotamia, was called ‘the land of civilized kings’. It reached its peak around 6,500 years ago when it had the distinction of being a very advanced civilization with a sophisticated written language, magnificent architecture for the time, complex mathematics, and amazing astronomy.

Practically all of the scholars (except the liberal ones) accept the Hebrew Bible as older than the Epic of Gilgamesh and state that the Bible is the historical document while Gilgamesh is an epic poem of mythology. Did you know Gilgamesh's ark was a cube? What does Kramer say about that?



How do you keep an atheist idiot in suspense? I'll tell you tomorrow.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Practically all of the scholars (except the liberal ones) accept the Hebrew Bible as older than the Epic of Gilgamesh and state that the Bible is the historical document while Gilgamesh is an epic poem of mythology.



How do you keep an atheist idiot in suspense? I'll tell you tomorrow.

Oh look, another video you never watched and don't understand.

 

[surada]

Practically all of the scholars (except the liberal ones) accept the Hebrew Bible as older than the Epic of Gilgamesh and state that the Bible is the historical document while Gilgamesh is an epic poem of mythology.



How do you keep an atheist idiot in suspense? I'll tell you tomorrow.

The Hebrews emerged from the north coast Canaanites a thousand years after the civilization of Sumer or the Akkadians..