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I feel your gripe about the lack of jobs, but we as a United country need to go back to basic facts of life and stop murmuring like the people that were stuck in the desert for 40 years and were only miles away from the promised land. We complain to much because we had it easy. Let's get up off our rears and create the jobs that the generation before managed. We need to stop crying the blues and dig down deep. Let's create new ways to do old things. Let's find a way to avoid this economic failure again. Let's force the companies that we spend money with, but will not hire us because they fear another crisis coming on, to feel our pain,slow down your spending. Back in the late 1800's to the 1900's people sold their goods in the streets. We complain about China and Mexico stealing jobs because they make the goods we buy cheaper. Well, darn-it make your own and create a made in America attitude again. The more we murmur the less we get. Let's take the Bull by his horns and lead on to victory. It takes a Village to raise everything, not just a child.
I feel your gripe about the lack of jobs, but we as a United country need to go back to basic facts of life and stop murmuring like the people that were stuck in the desert for 40 years and were only miles away from the promised land. We complain to much because we had it easy. Let's get up off our rears and create the jobs that the generation before managed. We need to stop crying the blues and dig down deep. Let's create new ways to do old things. Let's find a way to avoid this economic failure again. Let's force the companies that we spend money with, but will not hire us because they fear another crisis coming on, to feel our pain,slow down your spending. Back in the late 1800's to the 1900's people sold their goods in the streets. We complain about China and Mexico stealing jobs because they make the goods we buy cheaper. Well, darn-it make your own and create a made in America attitude again. The more we murmur the less we get. Let's take the Bull by his horns and lead on to victory. It takes a Village to raise everything, not just a child.
See -- the deal here Mr. L2U is that FIXING the problem isn't as important to these folks as getting to blame the guilty.. So any solutions, or suggestions or facts are just not part of the discussion..
Pray for this country...
This ain't rocket science, kids.
FREE TRADE happened to the jobs, that's what's happened to them.
When poeple whine about how much they want tax hikes on imports it's pure emotion. No sober person can imagine anyone suddenly hiring because they're now paying extra import taxes....the highest corporate taxes and regulations in the world you also mean a really bad economic team surrounding the president....FREE TRADE happened to the jobs, that's what's happened...
This ain't rocket science, kids.
FREE TRADE happened to the jobs, that's what's happened to them.
you mean the ability to import, without tariff, goods from countries that treat their citizens and employees in ways that are illegal in the united states
Yes that is a large part of the problem.
You also mean high union wages
Certainly motivated the masters to migrate jobs out of the nation, without doubt.
you also mean having some of the highest corporate taxes and regulations in the world
Well certainly those ALSO motivate the masters to migrate jobs out of this nation, too.
you also mean a really bad economic team surrounding the president.
No that's kind of silly.
The FREE TRADE disaster has been going on for over 50 years now.
Obama, regardless of all his flawed policies, (and I have pointed out many on this board) is only one of many POTUS and congresses which have allowed FREE TRADE to slowly sap the financial strength out of the American middle class.
BOTH PARTIES are responsible for this freaking mess we;'re in, amigo.
BOTH PARTIES
FREE TRADE happened to the jobs, that's what's happened to them.
FREE TRADE happened to the jobs, that's what's happened to them.
J: heres a simple rule to write down and go over with your mother again and again until you grasp it.
Simple rule: the more you trade with the richer you get no matter if the are across the street or across the world; the fewer you trade with the poorer you get. If you could not trade at all you'd have to make everything yourself and so starve to death or live a subsistence life style.
Review question: can you say why this is so?
It seems simple, i know but the liberal will lack the IQ to understand it; hence I encourage you to go over and over it with your mother or father until you grasp it. Don't give up. Thank you..
What an ass. Your statement is pure bluster and totally dependent on who 'YOU' is.
There's more to it and what's left out is key.... if they cant trade and have to make everything themselves?????????? Of course thats impossible......pure bluster and totally dependent on who 'YOU' is...... the more you trade with the richer you get no matter if the are across the street or across the world...
What an ass. Your statement is pure bluster and totally dependent on who 'YOU' is.
you mean some people are better off if they cant trade and have to make everything themselves?????????? Of course thats impossible.
notice how as a silly liberal you needed to change the subject and could not address the basic Econ 101 argument which is: the more wityh whom you trade the richer you get and the less you trade the poorer you get.
If this is not true then why be so afriad to explain why exactly????
...Trade is basic to our humanity and it's what distinguished us from Neanderthals whose sites contained only materials found within walking distance. Sites of Cro Magnun man had rare foods and minerals like obsidian only found many hundreds of miles away.
...People can't make EVERYTHING themselves, but that doesn't mean that can't make MORE things themselves. Especially if they can gain quality, reliability, know how and lower their cost...
Strawman: whenever trades are made without state control they always hurt the ecology and steal from the oppressed proletariat....your plant's toxic waste runs off into my water supply, you are getting rich, and making me poor. You are harming my family and lowering my property value.
...Trade is basic to our humanity and it's what distinguished us from Neanderthals whose sites contained only materials found within walking distance. Sites of Cro Magnun man had rare foods and minerals like obsidian only found many hundreds of miles away.
...People can't make EVERYTHING themselves, but that doesn't mean that can't make MORE things themselves. Especially if they can gain quality, reliability, know how and lower their cost...
That's not only a Neanderthal mindset, it's a corruption of fact. A trade made freely and by choice (aka 'free trade') is where the person making the trade is the one who decides which item has more quality and reliability. State control protectionists want the collective to make decisions and force the people to trade under duress.
Strawman: whenever trades are made without state control they always hurt the ecology and steal from the oppressed proletariat....your plant's toxic waste runs off into my water supply, you are getting rich, and making me poor. You are harming my family and lowering my property value.
Reality: markets need the state and the state needs markets, and neither should take over the other's function.
We live in the 21st century folks and the problems we face are not going to be solved by attempting to apply the political economic theories of the 18th century.
Reality is, there is no such thing as a 'free market'...all markets are constructed. All markets have rules and controlling entities. All markets have state intervention....Reality: markets need the state and the state needs markets, and neither should take over the other's function.
We live in the 21st century folks and the problems we face are not going to be solved by attempting to apply the political economic theories of the 18th century.
We agree again.. Need to be doing what the economists of the 90's told us to do...
That is making cheap labor irrelevent. Pushing nanotechnology, bio-engineering, artificial intelligience, robotics and the like... MAINTAINING US technical leadership will bring back jobs.
Hoping for the "old jobs" to come back -- ain't in the cards...
We live in the 21st century folks and the problems we face are not going to be solved by attempting to apply the political economic theories of the 18th century.
We agree again.. Need to be doing what the economists of the 90's told us to do...
No argument from me on that issue
That is making cheap labor irrelevent. Pushing nanotechnology, bio-engineering, artificial intelligience, robotics and the like... MAINTAINING US technical leadership will bring back jobs.
It will no doubt be good for those who are about the business of "nanotechnology, bio-engineering, artificial intelligience, robotics and the like" but it does nothing for the millions upon millions of our FELLOW (formerly tax paying) CITIZENS who are actually being hurt by the changing geo-economical status AND the advances in technology which actually make more and more human labor redundant.
Hoping for the "old jobs" to come back -- ain't in the cards...
Well, yes and no.
The most of "old jobs" still exist, it's just that now, instead of our workers doing those jobs, much cheaper laborers in the developing world have those jobs.
They could come back and would come back (but obviously not in the same numbers that they were lost) if we tightened up our trade policies in favor of keeping Americans at work.
This is a policy decision and is easily done.
The government ain't gonna create jobs..
I do not think the government creates jobs, Lad. But I know for certainty that by allowing unbridled and unthinking FREE TRADE policies, OUR GOVERNMENT insured that jobs formerly done by Americans migrated off shore.
So in that sense, the government can undo (somewhat) the damage it has done to our economy and to a significant portion of our fellow citizens.
Technology leadership will...
Technology leadership is a good thing, but it doesn't do much to address the issue at hand, sport.
MUCXH of the technology leadership created technology here without doubt.
And then when it was time to SCALE UP that techology the factories that create that technology were built, not in the land that cr5eated the science to make that technology possible, but instead whereever the cost of [production was cheapest.
Do try to stick to the subject, okay?
The subject here is not "Is technology a good thing?" but rather "How do we deal with a MACROECONOMIC problem created by stupid free trade policies?"
