What Happens If 20,000 Migrants Enter Your City ?

[MaryL]

Yes, YOUR city. Where YOU live. These 20,000 people are going to need a place to live, food, medical care, and other things. Many if not most, are destitute. Will they get immediate help ? How ? From whom ?

And if help doesn't come immediately to these migrants, will they turn to crime ? Will they steal cars (thereby increasing traffic congestion immensely) Will they burglarize, or just rob people in the streets ? Will they have communicable diseases ?

Will they overwhelm the social services department ? Will they overwhelm hospital ERs. What about school classrooms ? Will they cause massive litter problems ?

What if these 20,000 all stream into Douglas, AZ ? With a last counted population of just over 17,000, there would be more illegal aliens than residents (and who knows how many of those residents are illegal aliens themselves ?). What will happen to Douglas AZ ? (or its residents ? ; or the migrants ?) Anyone want to venture a guess ?

How about Loving, New Mexico ? Their population is only 1,413. Imagine them being swamped by 20,000 penniless, illegal migrants. How about Van Horn, Texas, with a population of 2,063. With a sudden influx of migrants 10 times their population, what would it be like for the residents of this town ?

Maybe those who say we don't need a wall, and there is no emergency, would like to tell us how these folks will get along ?

U.S. tracking three migrant caravans, one with 12,000 people

I would like to correct the OP. You don't mean "IMMIGRANTS." You mean illegal aliens, and yes, Virginia, there is a difference. A huge difference. Why do some people keep confusing the two?

 

[protectionist]

Nice foul mouth as usual.
It's called The literature darlin.
The average old white fart will take out 40% more than he put in.
Look it up.
Why am I reminded of the old joke "if you are not smart enough to get a real job, join the military. Great socialist benefits and indoctrination"
What do I expect from an old white fart who has a wife cheater as his moniker?

1. Look at the ageist, racist creep talking about "foul mouth" I'll guess we'll have to throw hypocrite in here as well.

2. I'm not average. Never comment on what you know nothing about. Many Social Security recipients receive LESS than what they paid in. This is easily understood when you know how Social Security benefits are determined.

3. I see no correlation between intelligence, getting a "real job" and joining the military. Maybe you are susceptible to propaganda that besmirches the military. Not surprising.

4. Do you think anybody cares much what you "expect" ? What could be less relevant than what information-deprived liberal victims of liberal OMISSION media, expect ? Maybe they expect the world to end 10 years from now. Maybe they expect people to be safe from mass shooters in gun-free zones Maybe they expect the Muslim Brotherhood to disavow their Explanatory Memorandum. And maybe they expect cats to win Olympic gold medals for swimming.

 

[protectionist]

I always am amused at the "keep England for the English" board members.
Made the mistake of having their DNA tested. Turks, Africans etc!!!!

Nationalism does not come from DNA. It is a manifestation of language and culture.

 

[protectionist]

What uneducated class do you belong too?
My early 2 early 20s lady relatives both earn $80k
One a plastics engineer, the other an environmental engineer.
It's always been the same, get a good Ed then you won't have to suck off socialist benefits. Easy really if you have 1/2 a brain
Foreign diseases?
Omg
You do know they pay for your benefits?
Our population is way to old and uneducated

This was supposed to be a rebut of the list of Harms of Immigration ? It came about as close to that as the Earth to Pluto.

And # 3 of the list refuted your airhead comment about "pay for your benefits", as well as the fact that I pay for my benefits.

As for what class of education, I belong to the class that has recovered from years of Miseducation, in America's infamous liberal MISeducation system.

 

[protectionist]

I didn't mean agree with other old white farts.
I meant teach English.
Do you ever venture from your double wide.?
I mean teach people who left everything and walked 1000 miles.
Have you any conception of that?

No, I don't teach illegal alien invaders. They should not have anything done with them other than to be turned over to ICE, and deported (unless they've committed crimes and should be imprisoned, and should be prevented from pillaging our economy with remittances$$)

 

[protectionist]

We should be upgrading Ellis Island to address our refugee problem.

A good place as a last stop before deporting.

 

[protectionist]

We have 350000000 people here. 12 k is nothing
It's well known we have an aging population.
Immigrants, as always will keep us white boy rubes as they assimilate
Thank god we have mexican restaurants now.
Zero in the 60's

Is there a doctor in the house ? I mean really.

 

[protectionist]

I'm just surprised you post a wife cheater and our anti military complex Dwight .
All the military related spending is 1/2 our discretion now.
No wonder we have crappy roads and education
Talk about a bunch of paranoids who never had the crap bombed out of them or never were in hand to hand.
Glorification unlimited
Ever lived anywhere but Tennessee?

I've lived all over the USA. Someday you may discover it.

 

[protectionist]

Please read.
No one said you didn't pay in.
Just said most collect more.
Hope you are not one of them
Social Security: Many pay more in taxes than they'll get in benefits

"Most" means more than half. Not a very relevant point (if it's even accurate) - and the link says "Many", not most. In the link article there is nothing to assert that people having paid Social Security tax for many years, would have paid less that what they receive, all the talk is about recent payments. In addition, the link is from fake-news, laughingstock CNN, whose reputation is so tarnished, that it is currently converting itself politically to a conservative agenda.

As for the link, the Urban Institute is one of the most biased leftist "think thanks" in America.
Political stance[edit]
The Urban Institute has been referred to as "independent"[4][5] and as "liberal".[6] A 2005 study of media bias in The Quarterly Journal of Economics ranked UI as the 11th most liberal of the 50 most-cited think tanks and policy groups, placing it between the NAACP and the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals.[15] According to a study by U.S. News & World Report most political campaign donations by Urban Institute employees go to Democratic politicians. Between 2003 and 2010, Urban Institute employees' made $79,529 in political contributions, none of which went to the Republican Party.[16]

Urban Institute - Wikipedia

 

[protectionist]

Absolutely not.
I'm a proud all white Christian zero education white rube
I guess you don't even research how we pillaged people for oil?
We installed the South American dictators.
Now whining about the caravans that we created?

Quite amazing how leftists still refer to history, going back many years, when the subject is imperialism. Sure, because their America hating doesn't fit with the fact that today, in the age of remittance imperialism, America is the # 1 VICTIM in the world ($138 Billion/year in 2016)

Maybe you haven't done the CURRENT research on imperialism >>

Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2016

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

You're getting an education.

 

[protectionist]

we should not have a refugee problem on our southern border if they could be going to Ellis Island, instead. An upgraded Ellis Island could process that group in a single day.

What gives you the idea they should be processed ?

EARTH TO DP - invaders get stopped (if not shot), not processed.

 

[MaryL]

My great grand parents actually immigrated legally. Actually. They didn't sneak in, nope. And they didn't demand to be respected and treated "special". Nope, they acclimated and were absorbed into the populace. Mexicans don't have to immigrate legally, because, "Orange man bad". Really?

 

[protectionist]

I would like to correct the OP. You don't mean "IMMIGRANTS." You mean illegal aliens, and yes, Virginia, there is a difference. A huge difference. Why do some people keep confusing the two?

Thank you. I have posted that same post in the past. I only use the word "immigrants" to describe illegal aliens, because others use it so frequently, and I just want to avoid misunderstandings.

What's even worse than "immigrants", is the word "undocumented". Illegal aliens are neither undocumented, nor are they "immigrants" (people who have gone through a legitimate immigration process)

To call an illegal alien an "undocumented immigrant", is about the equivalent of calling a bank robber an "informal withdrawl agent"

 

[protectionist]

My great grand parents actually immigrated legally. Actually. They didn't sneak in, nope. And they didn't demand to be respected and treated "special". Nope, they acclimated and were absorbed into the populace. Mexicans don't have to immigrate legally, because, "Orange man bad". Really?

My mother immigrated legally and properly. So did my paternal grandparents. They must be turning in their graves to see what is going on nowadays, with the overwhelming support of politically desperate (for VOTES) Democrats.

 

[Tax Man]

If they came to Hayward California they would cause rents and home prices to rise. They would have to find work in other towns as most every one who lives here does. We have public transport so no problem there.
San Francisco is trying out a new public refuse can that will alert collectors when it is almost full so they can be emptied before they overflow. As for everything else i do not think there is as much of a problem as you think.

I lived in Hayward before I saw the err of my ways, and left California and moved to Florida. Hayward is no better insulated from the Harms of Immigration as listed in Post # 36, as any other American city. In fact, it's probably worse off than most, since it is closer to the Mexican border than most US cities, and is more susceptible to invasion by the caravans.

I'll never forget when I went to an emergency room in Mountain View, with an actual emergency (hives), and the clerk told me to go to the waiting room. I did, and there were 40 seats there, every one of them with a Mexican sitting in it.

Also, Hayward has a population of about 150,000. It could handle a sudden influx of 20,000 people a bit easier than towns with very small populations. But even in Hayward, you might reconsider your view of how much of a problem 20,000 indigent invaders are to you, if one of them sticks a knife in your gut, to take your money. Suddenly it will be a problem FOR YOU.​

El Camino Hospital was a real shitty one. I really do not need to reconsider my views as no one would stick a knife in my gut or shoot me. I wear work boots and ben davis pants with a t shirt, not your cash cow by any means. Also if you look people in the eye instead of looking away or down like your afraid of them you would be surprised how many say high to ya.

 

[protectionist]

El Camino Hospital was a real shitty one. I really do not need to reconsider my views as no one would stick a knife in my gut or shoot me. I wear work boots and ben davis pants with a t shirt, not your cash cow by any means. Also if you look people in the eye instead of looking away or down like your afraid of them you would be surprised how many say high to ya.

NOBODY knows if someone is going to stick a knife in them, One thing is sure, if you let 20,000 destitute people into your town (of any population) you've just increased the chances of getting attacked, immensely.

As for people saying high to me, I've already got enough, Don't need or want 20,000 more, especially ones who crash over our border, thereby disrespecting our laws and us.

 

[MaryL]

Our great grand parents came here legally. They didn't need sanctuary from immigration laws. But Mexicans that sneak in do, because the laws are unfair because it discriminates against people that want to violate immigration laws. Excuse me?

 

[Moonglow]

Better restaurants!

Who in the hell eats oyster crackers without oyster stew?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yes, YOUR city. Where YOU live. These 20,000 people are going to need a place to live, food, medical care, and other things. Many if not most, are destitute. Will they get immediate help ? How ? From whom ?

And if help doesn't come immediately to these migrants, will they turn to crime ? Will they steal cars (thereby increasing traffic congestion immensely) Will they burglarize, or just rob people in the streets ? Will they have communicable diseases ?

Will they overwhelm the social services department ? Will they overwhelm hospital ERs. What about school classrooms ? Will they cause massive litter problems ?

What if these 20,000 all stream into Douglas, AZ ? With a last counted population of just over 17,000, there would be more illegal aliens than residents (and who knows how many of those residents are illegal aliens themselves ?). What will happen to Douglas AZ ? (or its residents ? ; or the migrants ?) Anyone want to venture a guess ?

How about Loving, New Mexico ? Their population is only 1,413. Imagine them being swamped by 20,000 penniless, illegal migrants. How about Van Horn, Texas, with a population of 2,063. With a sudden influx of migrants 10 times their population, what would it be like for the residents of this town ?

Maybe those who say we don't need a wall, and there is no emergency, would like to tell us how these folks will get along ?

U.S. tracking three migrant caravans, one with 12,000 people

Here's what happens in one Australian town

 

[Moonglow]

Why would they? The migrants own them.

Not the new migrants. They only thing they own is the clothes they're wearing.

And I kinda doubt that the previous migrants own restaurants. Give us a break. They're lucky if they own a toothbrush.

They damn sure open them when they get to the US. Immigrants open more businesses than US born citizens.