What happens if Flynn wiretap was illegal?

[Faun]

problem with your statement is Flynn was NEVER wire tapped....

The Russian Ambassador Kislyak was legally being monitored/tapped.

Flynn happened to call him... but Kislyak has been monitored for years if not decades and Flynn would have been aware of that as a former DIA director....unless he simply was stupefied by some act of God or simply suffered from a brain fart???

Or, maybe arrogant enough to think president Trump would protect him somehow, from his lawlessness, because he was covering up something harmful to Trump or family by lying to the FBI???

Pushing the ''illegal to tape Flynn angle''

WOULD MOST CERTAINLY have been used by Flynn's lawyers to get everything thrown out, IF they Could have used it legally....

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Those who argue against the provisions of the Logan Act deliberately are actionable under criminal libel.

So you did get you Hillary SS uniform out of storage.

 

[Care4all]

problem with your statement is Flynn was NEVER wire tapped....

The Russian Ambassador Kislyak was legally being monitored/tapped.

Flynn happened to call him... but Kislyak has been monitored for years if not decades and Flynn would have been aware of that as a former DIA director....unless he simply was stupefied by some act of God or simply suffered from a brain fart???

Or, maybe arrogant enough to think president Trump would protect him somehow, from his lawlessness, because he was covering up something harmful to Trump or family by lying to the FBI???

Pushing the ''illegal to tape Flynn angle''

WOULD MOST CERTAINLY have been used by Flynn's lawyers to get everything thrown out, IF they Could have used it legally....

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

That's the $64,000 question! WHY did Flynn LIE to the FBI?

And the investigators are trying to find the answer to that question, and the massive Trump Campaign team Russian Amnesia Syndrome Disorder

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Those who argue against the provisions of the Logan Act deliberately are actionable under criminal libel.

What?



Criminal Libel?



Tell me you jest.

In Jake's America 2.0, taking a position against the government is a killing offense

 

[iceberg]

problem with your statement is Flynn was NEVER wire tapped....

The Russian Ambassador Kislyak was legally being monitored/tapped.

Flynn happened to call him... but Kislyak has been monitored for years if not decades and Flynn would have been aware of that as a former DIA director....unless he simply was stupefied by some act of God or simply suffered from a brain fart???

Or, maybe arrogant enough to think president Trump would protect him somehow, from his lawlessness, because he was covering up something harmful to Trump or family by lying to the FBI???

Pushing the ''illegal to tape Flynn angle''

WOULD MOST CERTAINLY have been used by Flynn's lawyers to get everything thrown out, IF they Could have used it legally....

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

That's the $64,000 question! WHY did Flynn LIE to the FBI?

And the investigators are trying to find the answer to that question, and the massive Trump Campaign team Russian Amnesia Syndrome Disorder

Why did most of the DNC?

 

[jillian]

If illegal, then all resultant evidence is inadmissible. It would be considered "fruit of the tainted tree". In addition, any evidence obtained consequently from discovery based upon tainted evidence is also inadmissible.

That's fruit of the poison tree, and the problem is Flynn pled guilty, and gave up all appeal rights. So there is no court to overturn the evidence.

what evidence was illegally obtained?

nice that you can throw around the phrase "fruit of the poisonous tree" though. what evidence is derived from illegally obtained evidence? who has standing to challenge that "evidence"?

we'll wait.

 

[Faun]

problem with your statement is Flynn was NEVER wire tapped....

The Russian Ambassador Kislyak was legally being monitored/tapped.

Flynn happened to call him... but Kislyak has been monitored for years if not decades and Flynn would have been aware of that as a former DIA director....unless he simply was stupefied by some act of God or simply suffered from a brain fart???

Or, maybe arrogant enough to think president Trump would protect him somehow, from his lawlessness, because he was covering up something harmful to Trump or family by lying to the FBI???

Pushing the ''illegal to tape Flynn angle''

WOULD MOST CERTAINLY have been used by Flynn's lawyers to get everything thrown out, IF they Could have used it legally....

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

That's the $64,000 question! WHY did Flynn LIE to the FBI?

And the investigators are trying to find the answer to that question, and the massive Trump Campaign team Russian Amnesia Syndrome Disorder

Why did most of the DNC?

 

[deanrd]

We are weaponizing our intelligence apparatus to attack political enemies.

How adorable...sounds very HITLER to me.

What happens if Flynn wiretap was illegal?

Who did Flynn wiretap?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama obtained the FISA warrant under false pretenses, hence it's illegal and so is everything that flows from it

 

[JakeStarkey]

Those who argue against the provisions of the Logan Act deliberately are actionable under criminal libel.

There no such thing as "criminal libel".

Also, I have no idea what this statement is supposed to mean.

Sure, there is. Look it up. It is not my job to educate the willfully and woefully ignorant.

 

[ptbw forever]

We are weaponizing our intelligence apparatus to attack political enemies.

How adorable...sounds very HITLER to me.

If illegal, then all resultant evidence is inadmissible. It would be considered "fruit of the tainted tree". In addition, any evidence obtained consequently from discovery based upon tainted evidence is also inadmissible.

Easy to tell.

Was there a court order?

If yes- legal.

If not- not legal.

Was there a court order?

a court order doesnt make it legal.

The court order makes it legal.

LOL

Why do you people think you are “educated” again?

 

[iceberg]

problem with your statement is Flynn was NEVER wire tapped....

The Russian Ambassador Kislyak was legally being monitored/tapped.

Flynn happened to call him... but Kislyak has been monitored for years if not decades and Flynn would have been aware of that as a former DIA director....unless he simply was stupefied by some act of God or simply suffered from a brain fart???

Or, maybe arrogant enough to think president Trump would protect him somehow, from his lawlessness, because he was covering up something harmful to Trump or family by lying to the FBI???

Pushing the ''illegal to tape Flynn angle''

WOULD MOST CERTAINLY have been used by Flynn's lawyers to get everything thrown out, IF they Could have used it legally....

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

That's the $64,000 question! WHY did Flynn LIE to the FBI?

And the investigators are trying to find the answer to that question, and the massive Trump Campaign team Russian Amnesia Syndrome Disorder

Why did most of the DNC?

oh please - the entire russian dossier is a fucking lie to anyone who'd listen and that's an admitted fact you can't lie out of.

or
Wasserman Schultz Shunned FBI, Hid Security Breach From DNC Officials

 

[Faun]

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

That's the $64,000 question! WHY did Flynn LIE to the FBI?

And the investigators are trying to find the answer to that question, and the massive Trump Campaign team Russian Amnesia Syndrome Disorder

Why did most of the DNC?

oh please - the entire russian dossier is a fucking lie to anyone who'd listen and that's an admitted fact you can't lie out of.

or
Wasserman Schultz Shunned FBI, Hid Security Breach From DNC Officials

<smh>

Nope, the “entire dossier” is not a “fucking lie.”

Officials have said that the FBI has confirmed some of the information in the dossier.​

 

[Care4all]

problem with your statement is Flynn was NEVER wire tapped....

The Russian Ambassador Kislyak was legally being monitored/tapped.

Flynn happened to call him... but Kislyak has been monitored for years if not decades and Flynn would have been aware of that as a former DIA director....unless he simply was stupefied by some act of God or simply suffered from a brain fart???

Or, maybe arrogant enough to think president Trump would protect him somehow, from his lawlessness, because he was covering up something harmful to Trump or family by lying to the FBI???

Pushing the ''illegal to tape Flynn angle''

WOULD MOST CERTAINLY have been used by Flynn's lawyers to get everything thrown out, IF they Could have used it legally....

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

That's the $64,000 question! WHY did Flynn LIE to the FBI?

And the investigators are trying to find the answer to that question, and the massive Trump Campaign team Russian Amnesia Syndrome Disorder

Why did most of the DNC?

Do you REALLY believe that propaganda?

 

[iceberg]

problem with your statement is Flynn was NEVER wire tapped....

The Russian Ambassador Kislyak was legally being monitored/tapped.

Flynn happened to call him... but Kislyak has been monitored for years if not decades and Flynn would have been aware of that as a former DIA director....unless he simply was stupefied by some act of God or simply suffered from a brain fart???

Or, maybe arrogant enough to think president Trump would protect him somehow, from his lawlessness, because he was covering up something harmful to Trump or family by lying to the FBI???

Pushing the ''illegal to tape Flynn angle''

WOULD MOST CERTAINLY have been used by Flynn's lawyers to get everything thrown out, IF they Could have used it legally....

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

That's the $64,000 question! WHY did Flynn LIE to the FBI?

And the investigators are trying to find the answer to that question, and the massive Trump Campaign team Russian Amnesia Syndrome Disorder

Why did most of the DNC?

Do you REALLY believe that propaganda?

do you REALLY believe trump colluded with Russia?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We are weaponizing our intelligence apparatus to attack political enemies.

How adorable...sounds very HITLER to me.

If illegal, then all resultant evidence is inadmissible. It would be considered "fruit of the tainted tree". In addition, any evidence obtained consequently from discovery based upon tainted evidence is also inadmissible.

Easy to tell.

Was there a court order?

If yes- legal.

If not- not legal.

Was there a court order?

A court order doesn't make it legal.

What if the court order was issued based on lies?

Yes, a court order does make it legal - even if the court order was based on false intelligence.

If a judge orders a warrant to search my home for drugs, and no drugs are found, that does not make the warrant "illegal" - even if they used a tip that later turned out to be a lie as the basis.

Change the scenario.

A judge orders a warrant to search your home for drugs but an illegal weapon is found. If the warrant was found to illegal, the evidence of an illegal weapon is inadmissible as it would not have been discovered except for the illegal warrant.

 

[Care4all]

You are correct. Flynn was never wiretapped. It was the Russian. No doubt Flynn, knowing that as part of the transition team it was legal to make these contacts might not have thought anything of it.

If he thought it was legal, then why lie to the FBI about it?

That's the $64,000 question! WHY did Flynn LIE to the FBI?

And the investigators are trying to find the answer to that question, and the massive Trump Campaign team Russian Amnesia Syndrome Disorder

Why did most of the DNC?

Do you REALLY believe that propaganda?

do you REALLY believe trump colluded with Russia?

Yes I do believe in the least, his campaign team and son did, along with Flynn... And I find it hard to believe he was not made aware of their shenanigans....

There are so far found 14 in person meetings with the Russian operatives, 40+ text messages and 60+ phone calls that have been collected so far between the Trump campaign team and Russian government operatives.... the past 20 candidates running in the elections over the years have had ZERO contact during their campaigns with Russian gvt operatives..

Trump said there were NONE, he lied thru his teeth about it throughout the campaign....

so yes, from day one Trump and his lovefest with Putin and Russia has been very odd and so has him acting guilty and I can not simply throw out or turn a blind eye to what I have witnessed before my very eyes...

Something most certainly smells funny in Denmark!

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump will pardon Flynn just to piss off the media and the progs...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Those who argue against the provisions of the Logan Act deliberately are actionable under criminal libel.

There no such thing as "criminal libel".

Also, I have no idea what this statement is supposed to mean.

Sure, there is. Look it up. It is not my job to educate the willfully and woefully ignorant.

Criminal libel is a British common law thing. Those rules made it here to an extent (our legal system is mostly based on common law, and libel as a common law tort is still a thing) - but prosecutions and convictions for "criminal libel" are so exceedingly rare in the US that it basically doesn't exist here.

There is no such thing as a federal criminal libel statute.

16 states still have criminal libel laws on the books, but they are incredibly rarely prosecuted - there have been 16 convictions for criminal libel in the US in the last 50 years.

Libel is a tort, not a crime.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

We are weaponizing our intelligence apparatus to attack political enemies.

How adorable...sounds very HITLER to me.

If illegal, then all resultant evidence is inadmissible. It would be considered "fruit of the tainted tree". In addition, any evidence obtained consequently from discovery based upon tainted evidence is also inadmissible.

Easy to tell.

Was there a court order?

If yes- legal.

If not- not legal.

Was there a court order?

A court order doesn't make it legal.

What if the court order was issued based on lies?

Yes, a court order does make it legal - even if the court order was based on false intelligence.

If a judge orders a warrant to search my home for drugs, and no drugs are found, that does not make the warrant "illegal" - even if they used a tip that later turned out to be a lie as the basis.

Change the scenario.

A judge orders a warrant to search your home for drugs but an illegal weapon is found. If the warrant was found to illegal, the evidence of an illegal weapon is inadmissible as it would not have been discovered except for the illegal warrant.

The warrant would not be "illegal" unless it was obtained fraudulently on the part of the police, or on the part of the judge.

If the police and judge believed in good faith the tip that led them to get the warrant, the evidence would still be admissible, even if the root cause for the warrant was factually incorrect.