What human cost is acceptable in controling illegal immigration?

[pismoe]

many don't concern them selves with expenditure of taxpayer money . Quite often taxpayer money gets into the hands of the pro immigration teachers , helpers and agencies that cater to the imorted 'bantus' somalis ' muslims and berbers . Taxpayer money is the helpers , teachers and helpers Bread and Butter Cecille

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It's the law, dope and we don't have to give 2 billion people asylum like you stupidly suggested.

Do you even have any idea of how many applicants there are annually?
What the approval process is?
What percent of applicants actually receive asylum?
Is that number trending up or down over time?

What difference does any of that make? We provide asylum to people who are in great danger of oppressive governments, not people who don't like the direction their country has been the last 20 years.

However they come here anyway, why? Because of people like you. If they can draw enough sympathy from surrender first whites, they may be able to sneak into this country bypassing the millions that await entering our country the right way.

Well gee.......what would happen if we virtually closed our borders? They would quit coming here. This is a concept you will never get through that thick head of yours.

Asylum is a "right way", dope.

Applying for asylum is not a crime.

And neither is the government taking their kids away during the process, yet you on the left bitch about that.

What is the point in doing so?
Why separate families while going through a legal process?

That's the thing - the legal process. What Trump is doing is prolonging the legal process of deporting. Rather than catch and a relatively quick over the border you go, Trump is making it more punitive by making it take longer to actually go to court.

I'm all for trying to stop illegal immigration, although I think a wall is more symbol than anything. People come here with kids hoping their kids will be raised to become Dreamers. I'm not all in favor of the Dreamers staying. We should try to remove any incentive, or reason why people illegally come here. But punishing children is not legally ok under the US Constitution. To say nothing about basic humanity

There is a legal process in place that determines the validity of asylum claims. Ony 40% of applicants are approved. Those who aren't are deported. There is no need for these measures at all.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Asylum is a "right way", dope.

Applying for asylum is not a crime.

And neither is the government taking their kids away during the process, yet you on the left bitch about that.

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

And neither is the government taking their kids away during the process, yet you on the left bitch about that.

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

It’s unimaginable that there are people in favor of ripping 1y/o babies from their parents by policy.

Makes you wonder about their upbringing

Your “tolerant based” cries are just plain comical.
You fools realize that ALL detained criminals are separated from their children....RIGHT?
And you realize they’re seperated as a result of their own actions...RIGHT?
Were none of you fools ever taught cause and effect?

Applying for asylum is not a crime.

Knowing you can’t qualify for a asylum…And trying anyway knowing you’ll be separated from your children…Should be a crime though...right?

Neither applying for asylum nor being denied asylum is a crime. Children should not be separated in either case.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

And conservatives have gone above and beyond the call of disgusting by prohibiting those seeking asylum from doing so.

The reprehensible right, indeed.

If we had to give asylum to everybody that had a crappy country to live in, we would have over 2 billion people here. And again, it's not about asylum, it's about finding ways to sneak into this country without standing in line like everybody else.

That's just it, dope. We don't let in everyone who applies for asylum. There is a process in place to make the determination on their "standing". Asylum applicants are not criminals and have a right to due process under the law.

Yep, and with the time and money spent, we could be doing better things for our country instead. They come here knowing they don't have the qualifications to be granted asylum you dope.

It's the law, dope and we don't have to give 2 billion people asylum like you stupidly suggested.

Do you even have any idea of how many applicants there are annually?
What the approval process is?
What percent of applicants actually receive asylum?
Is that number trending up or down over time?

Over the last 26 years we have granted asylum to 1.9 million people. That's only .5% of the US population. The average is about 20,000/yr. 40% of those that apply and pass pre-screening are granted asylum after 3 to 6 mos of interviews and investigation. I seriously doubt that Trump would allow that many in the country. In fact, I don't see any reason he would allow any. There's nothing political or financial in it for him.

Exactly right and the rates of those granted asylum have been dropping for decades.

The truth is, they don't want any immigrants at all from the south. It's more about keeping a white majority nation than anything else. None of them will admit that though.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Remember this? After the mother gave her life to get her son to the U.S., Clinton administration took the child at gunpoint and returned him to a hellhole. Such compassion.

The supreme court ordered it, dope.

 

[Dragonlady]

It's the law, dope and we don't have to give 2 billion people asylum like you stupidly suggested.

Do you even have any idea of how many applicants there are annually?
What the approval process is?
What percent of applicants actually receive asylum?
Is that number trending up or down over time?

What difference does any of that make? We provide asylum to people who are in great danger of oppressive governments, not people who don't like the direction their country has been the last 20 years.

However they come here anyway, why? Because of people like you. If they can draw enough sympathy from surrender first whites, they may be able to sneak into this country bypassing the millions that await entering our country the right way.

Well gee.......what would happen if we virtually closed our borders? They would quit coming here. This is a concept you will never get through that thick head of yours.

Asylum is a "right way", dope.

Applying for asylum is not a crime.

And neither is the government taking their kids away during the process, yet you on the left bitch about that.

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

You really have no idea how much I'm laughing every time you parrot "ripping out of the arms of their parents". At the point where it became literally impossible for you to use any phrase BUT that, it became farce.

You leftists are 100% responsible for this happening. It was YOUR law; YOU insisted on it. YOU screamed and hollered that it was "the only humane thing to do". Now you flip on a dime and the complete opposite is "the only humane thing to do". And you really, genuinely expect us all to gasp in horror on cue, because you're too piss-stupid to realize how obviously you've overplayed your hand.

Traumatize this, twerp. No one gives a shit about your melodramatic hyperbole any more.

The parents are criminals, they're in jail pending hearing, and they're staying in jail pending hearing. Period. You can
clutch your pearls and screech and wail to your heart's content; no one cares.

Really?? No one?? Not Franklin Graham who said this policy is wrong?

Clergy Condemns AG Justifying Family Separation With Bible

Religious Rights Of Border Detainees Under Scrutiny As Black Ministers Condemn Trump’s Baby Snatcher Immigration Policy

Faith Leaders Oppose Trump's Immigration Policy Of Separating Children From Parents

8 Clergy Arrested to Stop Immigration Policies That Tear Families Apart: Supporters Escalate Protests Demanding Release of Immigrant Rights Leader

Phoenix church hosts Father's Day rally to protest immigration policy separating migrant families


Maybe no one cares but it looks like a whole lot of faith leaders do, as do their parishioners.

Trump is coldly, calculating that by causing lifetime, irreversible harm to toddlers, he can bully people to get get what he wants. This is leadership?

 

[Cecilie1200]

What difference does any of that make? We provide asylum to people who are in great danger of oppressive governments, not people who don't like the direction their country has been the last 20 years.

However they come here anyway, why? Because of people like you. If they can draw enough sympathy from surrender first whites, they may be able to sneak into this country bypassing the millions that await entering our country the right way.

Well gee.......what would happen if we virtually closed our borders? They would quit coming here. This is a concept you will never get through that thick head of yours.

Asylum is a "right way", dope.

Applying for asylum is not a crime.

And neither is the government taking their kids away during the process, yet you on the left bitch about that.

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

You really have no idea how much I'm laughing every time you parrot "ripping out of the arms of their parents". At the point where it became literally impossible for you to use any phrase BUT that, it became farce.

You leftists are 100% responsible for this happening. It was YOUR law; YOU insisted on it. YOU screamed and hollered that it was "the only humane thing to do". Now you flip on a dime and the complete opposite is "the only humane thing to do". And you really, genuinely expect us all to gasp in horror on cue, because you're too piss-stupid to realize how obviously you've overplayed your hand.

Traumatize this, twerp. No one gives a shit about your melodramatic hyperbole any more.

The parents are criminals, they're in jail pending hearing, and they're staying in jail pending hearing. Period. You can
clutch your pearls and screech and wail to your heart's content; no one cares.

Really?? No one?? Not Franklin Graham who said this policy is wrong?

Clergy Condemns AG Justifying Family Separation With Bible

Religious Rights Of Border Detainees Under Scrutiny As Black Ministers Condemn Trump’s Baby Snatcher Immigration Policy

Faith Leaders Oppose Trump's Immigration Policy Of Separating Children From Parents

8 Clergy Arrested to Stop Immigration Policies That Tear Families Apart: Supporters Escalate Protests Demanding Release of Immigrant Rights Leader

Phoenix church hosts Father's Day rally to protest immigration policy separating migrant families


Maybe no one cares but it looks like a whole lot of faith leaders do, as do their parishioners.

Trump is coldly, calculating that by causing lifetime, irreversible harm to toddlers, he can bully people to get get what he wants. This is leadership?

Well, goody for you. You found a bunch of gloryhounds who are willing to suck up to leftists for media time. I'll get right on treating them as "faith leaders" simply because YOU decided they were spokesmen for something.

LEFTISTS demanded that law. You can parrot, "Trump's fault! Trump's fault!" while cravenly ignoring this fact until your face turns blue, and I frankly hope you do. But it's not going to make your posts any less ignorant and disgustingly false and it's not going to make anyone the slightest bit interested in being "shamed" because trash like you demands it.

You want to talk cold and calculating? Let's start with the way you leftists demanded a law you had no desire or intention to see enforced, strictly to give yourselves cover to release illegal aliens into the population in job lots. And then we'll move on to the way you're trying to shove the blame for your shit law onto anyone but yourselves, now that you can't use it any more.

No one here believes a word of your "ripping away! *sob sob*" melodrama. It's nothing but faux-rage. And it's falling on deaf ears. Next time, don't be such a bunch of disingenuous pusbags.

 

[Dragonlady]

Deuteronomy 10:18-19 – “For the Lord your God...loves the strangers, providing them food and clothing. You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

From my twitter feed

Thanks for sharing, Reverend Cornball, but "loving the strangers" doesn't require letting them invade and destroy our home.

I need no lessons in charity and compassion from asshats who think they both involve voting money out of other people's pockets.

You need lessons in basic humanity. But most You need to be exposed as a Russian troll who only masquerades as an American who opposes immigration. This encourages American citizens to violate their beliefs and their Constitution and to inflict harm on little children.

Deplorable doesn’t even begin to cover it.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Asylum is a "right way", dope.

Applying for asylum is not a crime.

And neither is the government taking their kids away during the process, yet you on the left bitch about that.

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

You really have no idea how much I'm laughing every time you parrot "ripping out of the arms of their parents". At the point where it became literally impossible for you to use any phrase BUT that, it became farce.

You leftists are 100% responsible for this happening. It was YOUR law; YOU insisted on it. YOU screamed and hollered that it was "the only humane thing to do". Now you flip on a dime and the complete opposite is "the only humane thing to do". And you really, genuinely expect us all to gasp in horror on cue, because you're too piss-stupid to realize how obviously you've overplayed your hand.

Traumatize this, twerp. No one gives a shit about your melodramatic hyperbole any more.

The parents are criminals, they're in jail pending hearing, and they're staying in jail pending hearing. Period. You can
clutch your pearls and screech and wail to your heart's content; no one cares.

Really?? No one?? Not Franklin Graham who said this policy is wrong?

Clergy Condemns AG Justifying Family Separation With Bible

Religious Rights Of Border Detainees Under Scrutiny As Black Ministers Condemn Trump’s Baby Snatcher Immigration Policy

Faith Leaders Oppose Trump's Immigration Policy Of Separating Children From Parents

8 Clergy Arrested to Stop Immigration Policies That Tear Families Apart: Supporters Escalate Protests Demanding Release of Immigrant Rights Leader

Phoenix church hosts Father's Day rally to protest immigration policy separating migrant families


Maybe no one cares but it looks like a whole lot of faith leaders do, as do their parishioners.

Trump is coldly, calculating that by causing lifetime, irreversible harm to toddlers, he can bully people to get get what he wants. This is leadership?

Well, goody for you. You found a bunch of gloryhounds who are willing to suck up to leftists for media time. I'll get right on treating them as "faith leaders" simply because YOU decided they were spokesmen for something.

LEFTISTS demanded that law. You can parrot, "Trump's fault! Trump's fault!" while cravenly ignoring this fact until your face turns blue, and I frankly hope you do. But it's not going to make your posts any less ignorant and disgustingly false and it's not going to make anyone the slightest bit interested in being "shamed" because trash like you demands it.

You want to talk cold and calculating? Let's start with the way you leftists demanded a law you had no desire or intention to see enforced, strictly to give yourselves cover to release illegal aliens into the population in job lots. And then we'll move on to the way you're trying to shove the blame for your shit law onto anyone but yourselves, now that you can't use it any more.

No one here believes a word of your "ripping away! *sob sob*" melodrama. It's nothing but faux-rage. And it's falling on deaf ears. Next time, don't be such a bunch of disingenuous pusbags.

Trump could stop the separations of families with a phone call.

No amount of spin can change that fact.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Deuteronomy 10:18-19 – “For the Lord your God...loves the strangers, providing them food and clothing. You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

From my twitter feed

Thanks for sharing, Reverend Cornball, but "loving the strangers" doesn't require letting them invade and destroy our home.

I need no lessons in charity and compassion from asshats who think they both involve voting money out of other people's pockets.

You need lessons in basic humanity. But most You need to be exposed as a Russian troll who only masquerades as an American who opposes immigration. This encourages American citizens to violate their beliefs and their Constitution and to inflict harm on little children.

Deplorable doesn’t even begin to cover it.

I need nothing that would make me anything similar to the likes of you. You need to realize that YOU are no sort of standard people are aspiring to.

I'm going to take "Russian troll" as a sign that you've finally recognized that you can't deflect your way out of the fact that this law you're so "outraged" about as of five minutes ago is 100% the fault of LEFTISTS, and you're too much of a craven liar to admit it.

Case closed. You're dismissed, puswad.

 

[Cecilie1200]

And neither is the government taking their kids away during the process, yet you on the left bitch about that.

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

You really have no idea how much I'm laughing every time you parrot "ripping out of the arms of their parents". At the point where it became literally impossible for you to use any phrase BUT that, it became farce.

You leftists are 100% responsible for this happening. It was YOUR law; YOU insisted on it. YOU screamed and hollered that it was "the only humane thing to do". Now you flip on a dime and the complete opposite is "the only humane thing to do". And you really, genuinely expect us all to gasp in horror on cue, because you're too piss-stupid to realize how obviously you've overplayed your hand.

Traumatize this, twerp. No one gives a shit about your melodramatic hyperbole any more.

The parents are criminals, they're in jail pending hearing, and they're staying in jail pending hearing. Period. You can
clutch your pearls and screech and wail to your heart's content; no one cares.

Really?? No one?? Not Franklin Graham who said this policy is wrong?

Clergy Condemns AG Justifying Family Separation With Bible

Religious Rights Of Border Detainees Under Scrutiny As Black Ministers Condemn Trump’s Baby Snatcher Immigration Policy

Faith Leaders Oppose Trump's Immigration Policy Of Separating Children From Parents

8 Clergy Arrested to Stop Immigration Policies That Tear Families Apart: Supporters Escalate Protests Demanding Release of Immigrant Rights Leader

Phoenix church hosts Father's Day rally to protest immigration policy separating migrant families


Maybe no one cares but it looks like a whole lot of faith leaders do, as do their parishioners.

Trump is coldly, calculating that by causing lifetime, irreversible harm to toddlers, he can bully people to get get what he wants. This is leadership?

Well, goody for you. You found a bunch of gloryhounds who are willing to suck up to leftists for media time. I'll get right on treating them as "faith leaders" simply because YOU decided they were spokesmen for something.

LEFTISTS demanded that law. You can parrot, "Trump's fault! Trump's fault!" while cravenly ignoring this fact until your face turns blue, and I frankly hope you do. But it's not going to make your posts any less ignorant and disgustingly false and it's not going to make anyone the slightest bit interested in being "shamed" because trash like you demands it.

You want to talk cold and calculating? Let's start with the way you leftists demanded a law you had no desire or intention to see enforced, strictly to give yourselves cover to release illegal aliens into the population in job lots. And then we'll move on to the way you're trying to shove the blame for your shit law onto anyone but yourselves, now that you can't use it any more.

No one here believes a word of your "ripping away! *sob sob*" melodrama. It's nothing but faux-rage. And it's falling on deaf ears. Next time, don't be such a bunch of disingenuous pusbags.

Trump could stop the separations of families with a phone call.

No amount of spin can change that fact.

No, OBAMA would have thought he could change the law with a phone call, because HE thought he was God-Emperor of the Universe. You need to catch the fuck up and realize that the President doesn't make the law, and isn't above the law, and if President Trump TRIED to act the way you're currently demanding, you'd be screaming bloody murder about him violating the law.

No amount of spin can change the fact that the only thing you're REALLY outraged about is the fact that Trump is President, and you can't make it stop being true.

 

[Flopper]

Yes, Flopper illegal aliens criminals are really great and a model for the Western World to learn from. They really care about humanity and stuff.

Desperate people do desperate things. Refugees risk everything to crowd onto an unseaworthy boat for a 50/50 chance of making it to Europe.

Hondurans and Guatemalans cross two borders illegally and a thousands miles, mostly on foot to enter the US with less than a 40% chance of being granted asylum. Why? Because the odds are even worse if they stay home. Some people will consider them just criminals, mud people, the scum of the earth and others will see them as people that are willing to sacrifice everything for just a chance to become an American.

 

[pismoe]

What difference does any of that make? We provide asylum to people who are in great danger of oppressive governments, not people who don't like the direction their country has been the last 20 years.

However they come here anyway, why? Because of people like you. If they can draw enough sympathy from surrender first whites, they may be able to sneak into this country bypassing the millions that await entering our country the right way.

Well gee.......what would happen if we virtually closed our borders? They would quit coming here. This is a concept you will never get through that thick head of yours.

Asylum is a "right way", dope.

Applying for asylum is not a crime.

And neither is the government taking their kids away during the process, yet you on the left bitch about that.

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

You really have no idea how much I'm laughing every time you parrot "ripping out of the arms of their parents". At the point where it became literally impossible for you to use any phrase BUT that, it became farce.

You leftists are 100% responsible for this happening. It was YOUR law; YOU insisted on it. YOU screamed and hollered that it was "the only humane thing to do". Now you flip on a dime and the complete opposite is "the only humane thing to do". And you really, genuinely expect us all to gasp in horror on cue, because you're too piss-stupid to realize how obviously you've overplayed your hand.

Traumatize this, twerp. No one gives a shit about your melodramatic hyperbole any more.

The parents are criminals, they're in jail pending hearing, and they're staying in jail pending hearing. Period. You can
clutch your pearls and screech and wail to your heart's content; no one cares.

Really?? No one?? Not Franklin Graham who said this policy is wrong?

Clergy Condemns AG Justifying Family Separation With Bible

Religious Rights Of Border Detainees Under Scrutiny As Black Ministers Condemn Trump’s Baby Snatcher Immigration Policy

Faith Leaders Oppose Trump's Immigration Policy Of Separating Children From Parents

8 Clergy Arrested to Stop Immigration Policies That Tear Families Apart: Supporters Escalate Protests Demanding Release of Immigrant Rights Leader

Phoenix church hosts Father's Day rally to protest immigration policy separating migrant families


Maybe no one cares but it looks like a whole lot of faith leaders do, as do their parishioners.

Trump is coldly, calculating that by causing lifetime, irreversible harm to toddlers, he can bully people to get get what he wants. This is leadership?

------------------------------------------- so what , i liked Billy but his son seems to be a 'liberal' of the church of progressive politics . In fact 'frank' didn't straighten up until a few years ago from what i hear . Anyway , 'frank' should be NO PART of this world if he follows Biblical Teaching DLady .

 

[TahoeHorn]

I'm interested in hearing proposals from people who support the objective of preventing illegal immigration, and want a more humane treatment of children (all people really) but still retains the objective of preventing all illegal immigration. I'm unclear when this concern for children is merely an excuse to oppose aggressive efforts to stop illegal immigration. If we fix the problem with children does that get their support for the measure, or will they just come up with a new complaint.

I am not suggesting that the problem should not be addressed because many of the proponents of fixing it are disingenuous. But I am curious to know which complaints are from supporters of Trump's overall objective.

 

[TahoeHorn]

Yes, Flopper illegal aliens criminals are really great and a model for the Western World to learn from. They really care about humanity and stuff.

Desperate people do desperate things. Refugees risk everything to crowd onto an unseaworthy boat for a 50/50 chance of making it to Europe.

Hondurans and Guatemalans cross two borders illegally and a thousands miles, mostly on foot to enter the US with less than a 40% chance of being granted asylum. Why? Because the odds are even worse if they stay home. Some people will consider them just criminals, mud people, the scum of the earth and others will see them as people that are willing to sacrifice everything for just a chance to become an American.

We need to find some countries which will take them. I'll bet we could cut a deal with some places like Burkina Faso or Bangladesh to accept $1,000 plus a year's room and board in an optional refugee camp to admit them as refugees. If Guatemala is dangerous they'll want to go to Burkina Faso. If they're looking for economic improvement maybe not.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'm interested in hearing proposals from people who support the objective of preventing illegal immigration, and want a more humane treatment of children (all people really) but still retains the objective of preventing all illegal immigration. I'm unclear when this concern for children is merely an excuse to oppose aggressive efforts to stop illegal immigration. If we fix the problem with children does that get their support for the measure, or will they just come up with a new complaint.

I am not suggesting that the problem should not be addressed because many of the proponents of fixing it are disingenuous. But I am curious to know which complaints are from supporters of Trump's overall objective.

We are not treating children "inhumanely" by putting them in foster care. We do that to American children all the time when their parents are locked up. It sucks to have to do it, but I don't see that we have a responsibility to make life not suck.

 

[pismoe]

I'm interested in hearing proposals from people who support the objective of preventing illegal immigration, and want a more humane treatment of children (all people really) but still retains the objective of preventing all illegal immigration. I'm unclear when this concern for children is merely an excuse to oppose aggressive efforts to stop illegal immigration. If we fix the problem with children does that get their support for the measure, or will they just come up with a new complaint.

I am not suggesting that the problem should not be addressed because many of the proponents of fixing it are disingenuous. But I am curious to know which complaints are from supporters of Trump's overall objective.

----------------------------------------------- stop ALL immigration . Why the heck do you want more third world imported people in the USA which already has 310 million people and thats not counting 20 to 40 million illegals in the USA THorn .

 

[TahoeHorn]

----------------------------------------------- stop ALL immigration . Why the heck do you want more third world imported people in the USA which already has 310 million people and thats not counting 20 to 40 million illegals in the USA THorn .

I support immigration of very high talent individuals from wherever. I oppose immigration of low talent individuals.

Where do you get that stat of 20MM- 40MM illegals?

 

[pismoe]

well its 10 - 20 years ago they were touting 11 million . So use 11 million but with pourous borders its far more than 11 million . And by the way , the majority of importeds are low skilled third worlders . Doen't really matter as i OPPOSE all immigration and there can be no agrument over my USA Census numbers which show that USA population was about 310 million in 2010 THorn . Whats the PURPOSE of more imported people into the USA THorn ??

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Meanwhile, in the real world, Trump’s brutal, unwarranted policy of separating children from their families has failed to act as a ‘deterrent’ to immigration:

“…a month after the administration started generating headlines about family separation, the Homeland Security Department's own data showed the policy did not yet have the desired and predicted effect on the number of people trying to cross the border illegally or the number who show up at a legal crossing without paperwork, but may be claiming asylum.”

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/politics/family-separation-deterrence-dhs/index.html

At least Trump and his supporters are consistent at being wrong.