What human cost is acceptable in controling illegal immigration?

[TemplarKormac]

Did you draw that?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Deuteronomy 10:18-19 – “For the Lord your God...loves the strangers, providing them food and clothing. You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”

From my twitter feed

Thanks for sharing, Reverend Cornball, but "loving the strangers" doesn't require letting them invade and destroy our home.

I need no lessons in charity and compassion from asshats who think they both involve voting money out of other people's pockets.

You need lessons in basic humanity. But most You need to be exposed as a Russian troll who only masquerades as an American who opposes immigration. This encourages American citizens to violate their beliefs and their Constitution and to inflict harm on little children.

Deplorable doesn’t even begin to cover it.

I need nothing that would make me anything similar to the likes of you. You need to realize that YOU are no sort of standard people are aspiring to.

I'm going to take "Russian troll" as a sign that you've finally recognized that you can't deflect your way out of the fact that this law you're so "outraged" about as of five minutes ago is 100% the fault of LEFTISTS, and you're too much of a craven liar to admit it.

Case closed. You're dismissed, puswad.

This isn’t a “law” nor is it a requirement. This is Trump torturing children for political gain and you cheering the abuse.

This is who you are. A selfish, amoral xenophobe who supports child abuse

Nobody is being tortured. Why do you on the left continue to use lies to try and make your point?

They use emotion to make their point, and most of the time fail miserably.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If we had to give asylum to everybody that had a crappy country to live in, we would have over 2 billion people here. And again, it's not about asylum, it's about finding ways to sneak into this country without standing in line like everybody else.

That's just it, dope. We don't let in everyone who applies for asylum. There is a process in place to make the determination on their "standing". Asylum applicants are not criminals and have a right to due process under the law.

Yep, and with the time and money spent, we could be doing better things for our country instead. They come here knowing they don't have the qualifications to be granted asylum you dope.

It's the law, dope and we don't have to give 2 billion people asylum like you stupidly suggested.

Do you even have any idea of how many applicants there are annually?
What the approval process is?
What percent of applicants actually receive asylum?
Is that number trending up or down over time?

Over the last 26 years we have granted asylum to 1.9 million people. That's only .5% of the US population. The average is about 20,000/yr. 40% of those that apply and pass pre-screening are granted asylum after 3 to 6 mos of interviews and investigation. I seriously doubt that Trump would allow that many in the country. In fact, I don't see any reason he would allow any. There's nothing political or financial in it for him.

Exactly right and the rates of those granted asylum have been dropping for decades.

The truth is, they don't want any immigrants at all from the south. It's more about keeping a white majority nation than anything else. None of them will admit that though.

So even if that was the case, what's wrong with that? Show me one race of people that would support being made a minority in their own country outside of Surrender First whites.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, Flopper illegal aliens criminals are really great and a model for the Western World to learn from. They really care about humanity and stuff.

Desperate people do desperate things. Refugees risk everything to crowd onto an unseaworthy boat for a 50/50 chance of making it to Europe.

Hondurans and Guatemalans cross two borders illegally and a thousands miles, mostly on foot to enter the US with less than a 40% chance of being granted asylum. Why? Because the odds are even worse if they stay home. Some people will consider them just criminals, mud people, the scum of the earth and others will see them as people that are willing to sacrifice everything for just a chance to become an American.

We need to find some countries which will take them. I'll bet we could cut a deal with some places like Burkina Faso or Bangladesh to accept $1,000 plus a year's room and board in an optional refugee camp to admit them as refugees. If Guatemala is dangerous they'll want to go to Burkina Faso. If they're looking for economic improvement maybe not.

People from Canada seem to be shooting of their mouths. Let's ship them over there.

No doubt, If they want those little fuckers so bad put their money where their mouth is

Agreed. They even came here to preach it's not nice to go to Canada uninvited. They wanted to send a warning to those poor children they are not welcome in their country; STF in the USA.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thanks for sharing, Reverend Cornball, but "loving the strangers" doesn't require letting them invade and destroy our home.

I need no lessons in charity and compassion from asshats who think they both involve voting money out of other people's pockets.

You need lessons in basic humanity. But most You need to be exposed as a Russian troll who only masquerades as an American who opposes immigration. This encourages American citizens to violate their beliefs and their Constitution and to inflict harm on little children.

Deplorable doesn’t even begin to cover it.

I need nothing that would make me anything similar to the likes of you. You need to realize that YOU are no sort of standard people are aspiring to.

I'm going to take "Russian troll" as a sign that you've finally recognized that you can't deflect your way out of the fact that this law you're so "outraged" about as of five minutes ago is 100% the fault of LEFTISTS, and you're too much of a craven liar to admit it.

Case closed. You're dismissed, puswad.

This isn’t a “law” nor is it a requirement. This is Trump torturing children for political gain and you cheering the abuse.

This is who you are. A selfish, amoral xenophobe who supports child abuse

Nobody is being tortured. Why do you on the left continue to use lies to try and make your point?

They use emotion to make their point, and most of the time fail miserably.

Yes they are, but they think they are convincing people, so there is some humor in it.

 

[Ame®icano]

They use emotion to make their point, and most of the time fail miserably.

BINGO.

Lefties do not care about those illegals. They haven't during Bush presidency, they didn't during Barry's presidency, they don't even care now.

Never did, never will. They loved the status quo, that gives them something to lose their mind over when opposing party is in power. They're good actors, I would say, but in the reality, they dont give a shit about those people.

The only reason they're screaming their lungs out is because someone (Trump) decided to address the problem and do something about it. What would they have to run on, or to complain about IF problem is solved?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

These parents having these kids in these shit hole countries then trying to jump the fence into this country is inexcusable...

And begs the question: if things are so bad in the country you live, WTF did you have children in the first place? How bad can it be if you are willing to bring more people into such a place?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

You really have no idea how much I'm laughing every time you parrot "ripping out of the arms of their parents". At the point where it became literally impossible for you to use any phrase BUT that, it became farce.

You leftists are 100% responsible for this happening. It was YOUR law; YOU insisted on it. YOU screamed and hollered that it was "the only humane thing to do". Now you flip on a dime and the complete opposite is "the only humane thing to do". And you really, genuinely expect us all to gasp in horror on cue, because you're too piss-stupid to realize how obviously you've overplayed your hand.

Traumatize this, twerp. No one gives a shit about your melodramatic hyperbole any more.

The parents are criminals, they're in jail pending hearing, and they're staying in jail pending hearing. Period. You can
clutch your pearls and screech and wail to your heart's content; no one cares.

Really?? No one?? Not Franklin Graham who said this policy is wrong?

Clergy Condemns AG Justifying Family Separation With Bible

Religious Rights Of Border Detainees Under Scrutiny As Black Ministers Condemn Trump’s Baby Snatcher Immigration Policy

Faith Leaders Oppose Trump's Immigration Policy Of Separating Children From Parents

8 Clergy Arrested to Stop Immigration Policies That Tear Families Apart: Supporters Escalate Protests Demanding Release of Immigrant Rights Leader

Phoenix church hosts Father's Day rally to protest immigration policy separating migrant families


Maybe no one cares but it looks like a whole lot of faith leaders do, as do their parishioners.

Trump is coldly, calculating that by causing lifetime, irreversible harm to toddlers, he can bully people to get get what he wants. This is leadership?

Well, goody for you. You found a bunch of gloryhounds who are willing to suck up to leftists for media time. I'll get right on treating them as "faith leaders" simply because YOU decided they were spokesmen for something.

LEFTISTS demanded that law. You can parrot, "Trump's fault! Trump's fault!" while cravenly ignoring this fact until your face turns blue, and I frankly hope you do. But it's not going to make your posts any less ignorant and disgustingly false and it's not going to make anyone the slightest bit interested in being "shamed" because trash like you demands it.

You want to talk cold and calculating? Let's start with the way you leftists demanded a law you had no desire or intention to see enforced, strictly to give yourselves cover to release illegal aliens into the population in job lots. And then we'll move on to the way you're trying to shove the blame for your shit law onto anyone but yourselves, now that you can't use it any more.

No one here believes a word of your "ripping away! *sob sob*" melodrama. It's nothing but faux-rage. And it's falling on deaf ears. Next time, don't be such a bunch of disingenuous pusbags.

Trump could stop the separations of families with a phone call.

No amount of spin can change that fact.

Why he should do that? He's just continuing the same policy from previous presidents. That policy wasn't a problem to you lefties while Dubya and Barry were in the office, but NOW is a "yuge" problem.

The reason it's a problem now and not during DumBama is because of the MSM. The IG report came out casting more doubt on the integrity of the DOJ and FBI, and even more on the Mueller investigation.

Can't let that info hoard the limelight. Need to rile up the liberals to make a bigger issue to take our mind off of things like that.

 

[Coyote]

Coyote

If you don't mind me bringing you back to this discussion, I've had a burning question. What is the probability that every adult who crosses our border illegally with a child is related to the child? How do we know they aren't lying? In that case, the moral onus lies on the adults who bring them here and use them as tools to leverage our government.

Of the 12,000 children who came here, 10,000 of them came here alone. The other 2,000 were brought here by adults claiming to be their parents. When DHS could not verify their relationship, they were separated. Once again, in accordance with existing law.

So I ask again, how can we know that these so called "parents" aren't lying and simply using the child as a tool? Do you wonder why so many children are classified as unaccompanied? Because their "sponsors" abandon them for fear of being discovered and deported themselves.

How can your side of the aisle claim to care about the relationship between parent and child when the parent willfully separates (yes, separates, something you're currently making a bid deal about) themselves from their child via sending them across the dangerous frontier and across our border? Where is the outcry over that? Oh, is it because the parent is trying to "make a better life for their child"? Where is your concern over the possibility of child trafficking?

Could it be possible you are ignoring, forgetting, or downright dismissing the fact that the separation in about 80% of the cases has already occurred?

Why all the emotion and no solution?

You are talking about 3 different things.

Unaccompanied minors. Thay came without parents. This policy is not about them and has no effect on them, so lets leave them out of the discussion.

That leaves two: parents coming with their kids and human traffickers.

Those are the onky obes affected by the new 100 percent policy.

We have always seperated kids when there is suspicion they arent related. I trust that law enforcement and immigration officials and judges are well trained in ferreting out who is real and who isnt without needing to resort to this policy.

If you want solutions, what kind of solution is this?

If you want solutions why support this?

It is interesting how this has morphed.

First Sessions, Kelly and Trump decided they were going to implement it as a deterrent. They stated that.

Then it morphed and they blamed it on the Dems.

Then they started denying there was any such policy.

Now Trump is using these kids to attempt to extort legislation from the Dems while still blaming them for a situation he himself created. He is using child abuse. This is evil and I dont use thst word lightly.

Do you realize that in those facilities, the caretakers are not allowed to touch the children beyond attending ti their physical needs? They can pick up a distraught toddler who wants her mommy, they cant hold her, they cant comfort her. And she could be in there for months. Wonder how damaging that is for a child? Look up Romanian orphanages.

 

[Rustic]

Coyote

If you don't mind me bringing you back to this discussion, I've had a burning question. What is the probability that every adult who crosses our border illegally with a child is related to the child? How do we know they aren't lying? In that case, the moral onus lies on the adults who bring them here and use them as tools to leverage our government.

Of the 12,000 children who came here, 10,000 of them came here alone. The other 2,000 were brought here by adults claiming to be their parents. When DHS could not verify their relationship, they were separated. Once again, in accordance with existing law.

So I ask again, how can we know that these so called "parents" aren't lying and simply using the child as a tool? Do you wonder why so many children are classified as unaccompanied? Because their "sponsors" abandon them for fear of being discovered and deported themselves.

How can your side of the aisle claim to care about the relationship between parent and child when the parent willfully separates (yes, separates, something you're currently making a bid deal about) themselves from their child via sending them across the dangerous frontier and across our border? Where is the outcry over that? Oh, is it because the parent is trying to "make a better life for their child"? Where is your concern over the possibility of child trafficking?

Could it be possible you are ignoring, forgetting, or downright dismissing the fact that the separation in about 80% of the cases has already occurred?

Why all the emotion and no solution?

You are talking about 3 different things.

Unaccompanied minors. Thay came without parents. This policy is not about them and has no effect on them, so lets leave them out of the discussion.

That leaves two: parents coming with their kids and human traffickers.

Those are the onky obes affected by the new 100 percent policy.

We have always seperated kids when there is suspicion they arent related. I trust that law enforcement and immigration officials and judges are well trained in ferreting out who is real and who isnt without needing to resort to this policy.

If you want solutions, what kind of solution is this?

If you want solutions why support this?

It is interesting how this has morphed.

First Sessions, Kelly and Trump decided they were going to implement it as a deterrent. They stated that.

Then it morphed and they blamed it on the Dems.

Then they started denying there was any such policy.

Now Trump is using these kids to attempt to extort legislation from the Dems while still blaming them for a situation he himself created. He is using child abuse. This is evil and I dont use thst word lightly.

Do you realize that in those facilities, the caretakers are not allowed to touch the children beyond attending ti their physical needs? They can pick up a distraught toddler who wants her mommy, they cant hold her, they cant comfort her. And she could be in there for months. Wonder how damaging that is for a child? Look up Romanian orphanages.

These illegal aliens with their fucked up parents are taking advantage of this country. We will get nothing in return from these little fuckers

 

[Coyote]

Nope. I want families kept together unless there is a darn good reason to remove the child.

But what about all the parents sending their children alone across the frontier to be handled by complete strangers in hopes of getting them across the border? Have they not already broken up the family? Did they not already damage that precious bond between parent and child?

Bears repeating again

Except that is another issue, that is not what this is about. These are parents coming with their kids.

 

[Coyote]

That's just it, dope. We don't let in everyone who applies for asylum. There is a process in place to make the determination on their "standing". Asylum applicants are not criminals and have a right to due process under the law.

Yep, and with the time and money spent, we could be doing better things for our country instead. They come here knowing they don't have the qualifications to be granted asylum you dope.

It's the law, dope and we don't have to give 2 billion people asylum like you stupidly suggested.

Do you even have any idea of how many applicants there are annually?
What the approval process is?
What percent of applicants actually receive asylum?
Is that number trending up or down over time?

Over the last 26 years we have granted asylum to 1.9 million people. That's only .5% of the US population. The average is about 20,000/yr. 40% of those that apply and pass pre-screening are granted asylum after 3 to 6 mos of interviews and investigation. I seriously doubt that Trump would allow that many in the country. In fact, I don't see any reason he would allow any. There's nothing political or financial in it for him.

Exactly right and the rates of those granted asylum have been dropping for decades.

The truth is, they don't want any immigrants at all from the south. It's more about keeping a white majority nation than anything else. None of them will admit that though.

So even if that was the case, what's wrong with that? Show me one race of people that would support being made a minority in their own country outside of Surrender First whites.

Is race more important than being American?

 

[Flopper]

Ripping children out of the arms of their parents is a crime against humanity. At the very least it is a human rights violation of the children’s rights as stated by the United Nations.

This is a traumatizing and terrorizing event for these children, one which will affect them all of their lives. Many of the children are being drugged to deal with the emotional effects of being separated from the parents.

Is this the image the USA wants to project to the world. A nation which terrorizes and traumatizes children for political gain?

You really have no idea how much I'm laughing every time you parrot "ripping out of the arms of their parents". At the point where it became literally impossible for you to use any phrase BUT that, it became farce.

You leftists are 100% responsible for this happening. It was YOUR law; YOU insisted on it. YOU screamed and hollered that it was "the only humane thing to do". Now you flip on a dime and the complete opposite is "the only humane thing to do". And you really, genuinely expect us all to gasp in horror on cue, because you're too piss-stupid to realize how obviously you've overplayed your hand.

Traumatize this, twerp. No one gives a shit about your melodramatic hyperbole any more.

The parents are criminals, they're in jail pending hearing, and they're staying in jail pending hearing. Period. You can
clutch your pearls and screech and wail to your heart's content; no one cares.

Really?? No one?? Not Franklin Graham who said this policy is wrong?

Clergy Condemns AG Justifying Family Separation With Bible

Religious Rights Of Border Detainees Under Scrutiny As Black Ministers Condemn Trump’s Baby Snatcher Immigration Policy

Faith Leaders Oppose Trump's Immigration Policy Of Separating Children From Parents

8 Clergy Arrested to Stop Immigration Policies That Tear Families Apart: Supporters Escalate Protests Demanding Release of Immigrant Rights Leader

Phoenix church hosts Father's Day rally to protest immigration policy separating migrant families


Maybe no one cares but it looks like a whole lot of faith leaders do, as do their parishioners.

Trump is coldly, calculating that by causing lifetime, irreversible harm to toddlers, he can bully people to get get what he wants. This is leadership?

Well, goody for you. You found a bunch of gloryhounds who are willing to suck up to leftists for media time. I'll get right on treating them as "faith leaders" simply because YOU decided they were spokesmen for something.

LEFTISTS demanded that law. You can parrot, "Trump's fault! Trump's fault!" while cravenly ignoring this fact until your face turns blue, and I frankly hope you do. But it's not going to make your posts any less ignorant and disgustingly false and it's not going to make anyone the slightest bit interested in being "shamed" because trash like you demands it.

You want to talk cold and calculating? Let's start with the way you leftists demanded a law you had no desire or intention to see enforced, strictly to give yourselves cover to release illegal aliens into the population in job lots. And then we'll move on to the way you're trying to shove the blame for your shit law onto anyone but yourselves, now that you can't use it any more.

No one here believes a word of your "ripping away! *sob sob*" melodrama. It's nothing but faux-rage. And it's falling on deaf ears. Next time, don't be such a bunch of disingenuous pusbags.

Trump could stop the separations of families with a phone call.

No amount of spin can change that fact.

No, OBAMA would have thought he could change the law with a phone call, because HE thought he was God-Emperor of the Universe. You need to catch the fuck up and realize that the President doesn't make the law, and isn't above the law, and if President Trump TRIED to act the way you're currently demanding, you'd be screaming bloody murder about him violating the law.

No amount of spin can change the fact that the only thing you're REALLY outraged about is the fact that Trump is President, and you can't make it stop being true.

There is no law that requires the administration to separate children from their parents during immigration detention and proceedings. There are policies which can be change by the president with a phone call. Obama did it and Trump did it and most probably every president for the last 25 years did it.

American immigration is regarded throughout the world as being one the most unjust systems of any modern nation. Why? Because it's inconsistent, it is based on rules loosely derived from laws, which the president changes based on current politics. Our immigration laws gives the administration huge latitudes in enforcement which each administration uses to it's own advantage.

During the first half of the 20th century, our immigration system on the southern boarder was run on the honor system. People moved freely back forth across the border. The US focused on collecting duties.

In 1950's under Eisenhower, the fear the communist menace resulted in a half million Latinos, some Mexican, some US citizens being rounded up, thrown into trucks, and dumped across the boarder. Since boarder security was so lax any that wanted to come back just walked back across the boarder. However, the welcome map had been withdrawn .

Low levels of Mexicans crossing the boarder resulted in severe shortages of farm labor in the southwest. So the welcome mat was once again displayed and Mexicans poured into the county.

Reagan decide enough was enough and we are going to solve the illegal immigration problem once and for all by legalizing long term residents and for the first time securing our boarders. 3 million undocumented immigrants were legalized but boarder security never happened.

Clinton began his term with the welcome mat out and Mexicans poured across the boarder. In Clinton's 2nd term, deportations skyrocketed and the welcome mat was withdrawn, and for the first time every, we started to actually secure the boarder.

Under Bush deportations continued but his administration focused on increasing boarder security which is largely credited with the fall in illegal crossings in the years to come.

In Obama's first term, millions of Mexicans headed north with the recession driving unemployment through the roof. Obama, having no choice began a huge deportation effort largely covered up by the financial news. Then in his 2nd term he abruptly stopped deportations and then he starts them up again. However, during his term in office he deported 2.5 million people. By the end his term boarder security had reached a new high, with hundreds of miles of new fencing, over 10,000 additional border patrol. Improvements in the Mexican economy and better security brought illegal boarder crossings to a new low of 170,000.

Now Trump takes office. Once again the welcome mat is withdrawn and every illegal in country is going to be deported. What do you bet the welcome mat goes out again within the next 4 years.

 

[Coyote]

You really have no idea how much I'm laughing every time you parrot "ripping out of the arms of their parents". At the point where it became literally impossible for you to use any phrase BUT that, it became farce.

You leftists are 100% responsible for this happening. It was YOUR law; YOU insisted on it. YOU screamed and hollered that it was "the only humane thing to do". Now you flip on a dime and the complete opposite is "the only humane thing to do". And you really, genuinely expect us all to gasp in horror on cue, because you're too piss-stupid to realize how obviously you've overplayed your hand.

Traumatize this, twerp. No one gives a shit about your melodramatic hyperbole any more.

The parents are criminals, they're in jail pending hearing, and they're staying in jail pending hearing. Period. You can
clutch your pearls and screech and wail to your heart's content; no one cares.

Really?? No one?? Not Franklin Graham who said this policy is wrong?

Clergy Condemns AG Justifying Family Separation With Bible

Religious Rights Of Border Detainees Under Scrutiny As Black Ministers Condemn Trump’s Baby Snatcher Immigration Policy

Faith Leaders Oppose Trump's Immigration Policy Of Separating Children From Parents

8 Clergy Arrested to Stop Immigration Policies That Tear Families Apart: Supporters Escalate Protests Demanding Release of Immigrant Rights Leader

Phoenix church hosts Father's Day rally to protest immigration policy separating migrant families


Maybe no one cares but it looks like a whole lot of faith leaders do, as do their parishioners.

Trump is coldly, calculating that by causing lifetime, irreversible harm to toddlers, he can bully people to get get what he wants. This is leadership?

Well, goody for you. You found a bunch of gloryhounds who are willing to suck up to leftists for media time. I'll get right on treating them as "faith leaders" simply because YOU decided they were spokesmen for something.

LEFTISTS demanded that law. You can parrot, "Trump's fault! Trump's fault!" while cravenly ignoring this fact until your face turns blue, and I frankly hope you do. But it's not going to make your posts any less ignorant and disgustingly false and it's not going to make anyone the slightest bit interested in being "shamed" because trash like you demands it.

You want to talk cold and calculating? Let's start with the way you leftists demanded a law you had no desire or intention to see enforced, strictly to give yourselves cover to release illegal aliens into the population in job lots. And then we'll move on to the way you're trying to shove the blame for your shit law onto anyone but yourselves, now that you can't use it any more.

No one here believes a word of your "ripping away! *sob sob*" melodrama. It's nothing but faux-rage. And it's falling on deaf ears. Next time, don't be such a bunch of disingenuous pusbags.

Trump could stop the separations of families with a phone call.

No amount of spin can change that fact.

Why he should do that? He's just continuing the same policy from previous presidents. That policy wasn't a problem to you lefties while Dubya and Barry were in the office, but NOW is a "yuge" problem.

The reason it's a problem now and not during DumBama is because of the MSM. The IG report came out casting more doubt on the integrity of the DOJ and FBI, and even more on the Mueller investigation.

Can't let that info hoard the limelight. Need to rile up the liberals to make a bigger issue to take our mind off of things like that.

Thr IG report found no evidence of political bias.

 

[karpenter]

What human cost is acceptable in controlling illegal immigration?

What Human Cost Is Acceptable In NOT Controlling Illegal Immigration ??
If Deporting All Illegal Aliens Saves Even ONE Life
Then All Their Inconvenience Is Worth It

 

[TemplarKormac]

Nope. I want families kept together unless there is a darn good reason to remove the child.

But what about all the parents sending their children alone across the frontier to be handled by complete strangers in hopes of getting them across the border? Have they not already broken up the family? Did they not already damage that precious bond between parent and child?

Bears repeating again

Except that is another issue, that is not what this is about. These are parents coming with their kids.

Intriguing...

How is that a separate issue?

 

[Rustic]

Yep, and with the time and money spent, we could be doing better things for our country instead. They come here knowing they don't have the qualifications to be granted asylum you dope.

It's the law, dope and we don't have to give 2 billion people asylum like you stupidly suggested.

Do you even have any idea of how many applicants there are annually?
What the approval process is?
What percent of applicants actually receive asylum?
Is that number trending up or down over time?

Over the last 26 years we have granted asylum to 1.9 million people. That's only .5% of the US population. The average is about 20,000/yr. 40% of those that apply and pass pre-screening are granted asylum after 3 to 6 mos of interviews and investigation. I seriously doubt that Trump would allow that many in the country. In fact, I don't see any reason he would allow any. There's nothing political or financial in it for him.

Exactly right and the rates of those granted asylum have been dropping for decades.

The truth is, they don't want any immigrants at all from the south. It's more about keeping a white majority nation than anything else. None of them will admit that though.

So even if that was the case, what's wrong with that? Show me one race of people that would support being made a minority in their own country outside of Surrender First whites.

Is race more important than being American?

Being an individual is the most important thing… Fuck the collective

 

[TahoeHorn]

I favor a variant of the Australian approach:
How Australia's migrant policy works - and is it transferable to the Mediterranean?
We could use some place like Haiti (I'm sure they'd cooperate for the right price).

 

[Coyote]

Nope. I want families kept together unless there is a darn good reason to remove the child.

But what about all the parents sending their children alone across the frontier to be handled by complete strangers in hopes of getting them across the border? Have they not already broken up the family? Did they not already damage that precious bond between parent and child?

Bears repeating again

Except that is another issue, that is not what this is about. These are parents coming with their kids.

Intruguing...

How is that a separate issue?

Becsuse the policy does not apply to them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yep, and with the time and money spent, we could be doing better things for our country instead. They come here knowing they don't have the qualifications to be granted asylum you dope.

It's the law, dope and we don't have to give 2 billion people asylum like you stupidly suggested.

Do you even have any idea of how many applicants there are annually?
What the approval process is?
What percent of applicants actually receive asylum?
Is that number trending up or down over time?

Over the last 26 years we have granted asylum to 1.9 million people. That's only .5% of the US population. The average is about 20,000/yr. 40% of those that apply and pass pre-screening are granted asylum after 3 to 6 mos of interviews and investigation. I seriously doubt that Trump would allow that many in the country. In fact, I don't see any reason he would allow any. There's nothing political or financial in it for him.

Exactly right and the rates of those granted asylum have been dropping for decades.

The truth is, they don't want any immigrants at all from the south. It's more about keeping a white majority nation than anything else. None of them will admit that though.

So even if that was the case, what's wrong with that? Show me one race of people that would support being made a minority in their own country outside of Surrender First whites.

Is race more important than being American?

Both are important, especially if you are the race the Democrats want to wipe out.