What human cost is acceptable in controling illegal immigration?

[IM2]

Remember what a dick you were about Trump calling those shit hole countries?

Because it was a racist and inhumane thing to say... that's why we gave him shit.

Yep. These humanitarian Democrats describe hell on earth, then want to do nothing to help them other than allow them to come here. If that were really their view and they had a soul, they would want to help rescue all those people from their criminal governments and do it there.

Um, no we wouldn't want to do that because we'd just fuck it up. Besides that, they aren't standing on top of any oil.

Here's where I'll criticize a Democrat. Bill Clinton tried to stem the flow of refugees from Haiti by toppling their government and putting a better one in charge. It didn't work.

So, um, yeah, we should take refugees because that's what we have always done, throughout our history....

Yep, they can't vote if they're not here. You know exactly what you're doing.

Duh, you know, dude, we're 5% of the world, but anyone who lives in the world under a bad government, they just come here! Yeah, that's the way it's always been. Drool. Rad, man

Idiot

Since we made most of those governments bad.....

 

[IM2]

/------/ You can get credit for fixing someone else's screwup: Here Are Horrifying Photos Of Obama’s Illegal Alien Facilities The Media Refuses To Show You

You mean ones from 2014 when we had a flood of unaccompanied minors and we had to find places for them all? We didn't yank them from their parents because their parents didn't come with them.

CONTEXT, buddy. It's all about CONTEXT. Trump and Sessions tried to intimidate these people by being cruel to them. It backfired in their face.

/----/ The Liberal Immigration Policy
Step one: Let the poor kids in for goodness sake.
Step 2: Let the poor kids' parents in to care for them for goodness sake.
Step 3: Let the poor kids grandparents, aunts, uncles, brothers and sisters in to keep the family intact and vote Democrat for goodness sake.
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None of that is true.

 

[kaz]

Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.

I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................

You are supporting a dictator who is ruining our country right now.

Nope, he's trying to save it. That's why we voted him in. All we can do now is hope he devises new and stronger border protections TO save this country. Next budget, the wall should not be negotiable. Let the commies shutdown the government if they want.

You're out of you mind.

He's out of his mind because he thinks that we should have a southern border. You're out of your mind

We have a southern border. Complete with a fence. The number one problem relative to illegal immigration is visa overstays. But we must all be overly concerned with a southern border. And we all know why that is.

You claim to be a researcher, yet you just told a flat out lie. More people cross the border than VISA overstays.

And wow, how stupid is that we get to pick one thing and one thing only and it must solve all problems. Leftists never offer that on any issue, yet you demand it on every issue. We want to deal with border crossings AND VISA overstays. Two things??? Blows your mind, huh?

 

[kaz]

Remember what a dick you were about Trump calling those shit hole countries?

Because it was a racist and inhumane thing to say... that's why we gave him shit.

Yep. These humanitarian Democrats describe hell on earth, then want to do nothing to help them other than allow them to come here. If that were really their view and they had a soul, they would want to help rescue all those people from their criminal governments and do it there.

Um, no we wouldn't want to do that because we'd just fuck it up. Besides that, they aren't standing on top of any oil.

Here's where I'll criticize a Democrat. Bill Clinton tried to stem the flow of refugees from Haiti by toppling their government and putting a better one in charge. It didn't work.

So, um, yeah, we should take refugees because that's what we have always done, throughout our history....

Yep, they can't vote if they're not here. You know exactly what you're doing.

Duh, you know, dude, we're 5% of the world, but anyone who lives in the world under a bad government, they just come here! Yeah, that's the way it's always been. Drool. Rad, man

Idiot

Since we made most of those governments bad.....

Yes, we're the cause of all problems in the world. Got it. You just made me literally laugh out loud at you

 

[IM2]

Remember what a dick you were about Trump calling those shit hole countries?

Because it was a racist and inhumane thing to say... that's why we gave him shit.

Yep. These humanitarian Democrats describe hell on earth, then want to do nothing to help them other than allow them to come here. If that were really their view and they had a soul, they would want to help rescue all those people from their criminal governments and do it there.

Um, no we wouldn't want to do that because we'd just fuck it up. Besides that, they aren't standing on top of any oil.

Here's where I'll criticize a Democrat. Bill Clinton tried to stem the flow of refugees from Haiti by toppling their government and putting a better one in charge. It didn't work.

So, um, yeah, we should take refugees because that's what we have always done, throughout our history....

Yep, they can't vote if they're not here. You know exactly what you're doing.

Duh, you know, dude, we're 5% of the world, but anyone who lives in the world under a bad government, they just come here! Yeah, that's the way it's always been. Drool. Rad, man

Idiot

Since we made most of those governments bad.....

Yes, we're the cause of all problems in the world. Got it. You just made me literally laugh out loud at you

Keep laughing fool, because I'm right.

 

[kaz]

Remember what a dick you were about Trump calling those shit hole countries?

Because it was a racist and inhumane thing to say... that's why we gave him shit.

Yep. These humanitarian Democrats describe hell on earth, then want to do nothing to help them other than allow them to come here. If that were really their view and they had a soul, they would want to help rescue all those people from their criminal governments and do it there.

Um, no we wouldn't want to do that because we'd just fuck it up. Besides that, they aren't standing on top of any oil.

Here's where I'll criticize a Democrat. Bill Clinton tried to stem the flow of refugees from Haiti by toppling their government and putting a better one in charge. It didn't work.

So, um, yeah, we should take refugees because that's what we have always done, throughout our history....

Yep, they can't vote if they're not here. You know exactly what you're doing.

Duh, you know, dude, we're 5% of the world, but anyone who lives in the world under a bad government, they just come here! Yeah, that's the way it's always been. Drool. Rad, man

Idiot

Since we made most of those governments bad.....

Yes, we're the cause of all problems in the world. Got it. You just made me literally laugh out loud at you

Keep laughing fool, because I'm right.

I'll keep laughing at the fool who thinks he's right.

You're just a hater.

What about foot fungus? The United States caused that, didn't we? I always suspected that we did

 

[Cecilie1200]

There wasn't a policy of separating all families until Trump started it. Anyway, it's Diane Feinstein's bill, it's made news in the normal world, I guess it hasn't hit Alex Jones or Fox News or Zero Hedge, whatever shithole you get your news from.

Apparently they are going to stop separating families, did you miss that too? Or were you against it now all along?

Haven't lied one bit.

No, there wasn't a policy of enforcing illegal immigration law until Trump started it.

Anyway, it's amazing how you're such a big fan of this bill, but can't actually tell me what it is.

It's a lie to say Trump "caved", or that he started a policy of separating families, or to pretend that he hasn't been calling for this law you pretend doesn't exist to be changed all along. Come to think of it, it's also a lie for you to pretend the Flores Settlement and the Ninth Circuit ruling regarding it don't exist.

Yes it was because he really cared about these kids, not the fact that the party was’t behind him and only 17 percent of the public approved. He’s just big softy.


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At least as believable as leftists caring about these kids, when they haven't done a fucking thing to change the situation.

Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.

I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................

You are supporting a dictator who is ruining our country right now.

Really? You're pissing and moaning about him being "a dictator" at the same time that leftists are demanding that he just "fix it with his pen" instead of asking the legislature to do its damned job and legislate?

If you had any brains at all, you'd see the inconsistency there.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You are supporting a dictator who is ruining our country right now.

Nope, he's trying to save it. That's why we voted him in. All we can do now is hope he devises new and stronger border protections TO save this country. Next budget, the wall should not be negotiable. Let the commies shutdown the government if they want.

You're out of you mind.

He's out of his mind because he thinks that we should have a southern border. You're out of your mind

We have a southern border. Complete with a fence. The number one problem relative to illegal immigration is visa overstays. But we must all be overly concerned with a southern border. And we all know why that is.

You claim to be a researcher, yet you just told a flat out lie. More people cross the border than VISA overstays.

And wow, how stupid is that we get to pick one thing and one thing only and it must solve all problems. Leftists never offer that on any issue, yet you demand it on every issue. We want to deal with border crossings AND VISA overstays. Two things??? Blows your mind, huh?

That's because leftists find it hard to walk and breathe at the same time.

 

[IM2]

No, there wasn't a policy of enforcing illegal immigration law until Trump started it.

Anyway, it's amazing how you're such a big fan of this bill, but can't actually tell me what it is.

It's a lie to say Trump "caved", or that he started a policy of separating families, or to pretend that he hasn't been calling for this law you pretend doesn't exist to be changed all along. Come to think of it, it's also a lie for you to pretend the Flores Settlement and the Ninth Circuit ruling regarding it don't exist.

Yes it was because he really cared about these kids, not the fact that the party was’t behind him and only 17 percent of the public approved. He’s just big softy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

At least as believable as leftists caring about these kids, when they haven't done a fucking thing to change the situation.

Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.

I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................

You are supporting a dictator who is ruining our country right now.

Really? You're pissing and moaning about him being "a dictator" at the same time that leftists are demanding that he just "fix it with his pen" instead of asking the legislature to do its damned job and legislate?

If you had any brains at all, you'd see the inconsistency there.

 

[IM2]

Nope, he's trying to save it. That's why we voted him in. All we can do now is hope he devises new and stronger border protections TO save this country. Next budget, the wall should not be negotiable. Let the commies shutdown the government if they want.

You're out of you mind.

He's out of his mind because he thinks that we should have a southern border. You're out of your mind

We have a southern border. Complete with a fence. The number one problem relative to illegal immigration is visa overstays. But we must all be overly concerned with a southern border. And we all know why that is.

You claim to be a researcher, yet you just told a flat out lie. More people cross the border than VISA overstays.

And wow, how stupid is that we get to pick one thing and one thing only and it must solve all problems. Leftists never offer that on any issue, yet you demand it on every issue. We want to deal with border crossings AND VISA overstays. Two things??? Blows your mind, huh?

That's because leftists find it hard to walk and breathe at the same time.

Nope. Visa overstays are the number 1 problem.

 

[IM2]

Because it was a racist and inhumane thing to say... that's why we gave him shit.

Um, no we wouldn't want to do that because we'd just fuck it up. Besides that, they aren't standing on top of any oil.

Here's where I'll criticize a Democrat. Bill Clinton tried to stem the flow of refugees from Haiti by toppling their government and putting a better one in charge. It didn't work.

So, um, yeah, we should take refugees because that's what we have always done, throughout our history....

Yep, they can't vote if they're not here. You know exactly what you're doing.

Duh, you know, dude, we're 5% of the world, but anyone who lives in the world under a bad government, they just come here! Yeah, that's the way it's always been. Drool. Rad, man

Idiot

Since we made most of those governments bad.....

Yes, we're the cause of all problems in the world. Got it. You just made me literally laugh out loud at you

Keep laughing fool, because I'm right.

I'll keep laughing at the fool who thinks he's right.

You're just a hater.

What about foot fungus? The United States caused that, didn't we? I always suspected that we did

You fit the profile of the Trump supporter. White and dumb.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yes it was because he really cared about these kids, not the fact that the party was’t behind him and only 17 percent of the public approved. He’s just big softy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

At least as believable as leftists caring about these kids, when they haven't done a fucking thing to change the situation.

Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.

I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................

You are supporting a dictator who is ruining our country right now.

Really? You're pissing and moaning about him being "a dictator" at the same time that leftists are demanding that he just "fix it with his pen" instead of asking the legislature to do its damned job and legislate?

If you had any brains at all, you'd see the inconsistency there.

Well, that's not how I would have characterized your posts, but okay.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You're out of you mind.

He's out of his mind because he thinks that we should have a southern border. You're out of your mind

We have a southern border. Complete with a fence. The number one problem relative to illegal immigration is visa overstays. But we must all be overly concerned with a southern border. And we all know why that is.

You claim to be a researcher, yet you just told a flat out lie. More people cross the border than VISA overstays.

And wow, how stupid is that we get to pick one thing and one thing only and it must solve all problems. Leftists never offer that on any issue, yet you demand it on every issue. We want to deal with border crossings AND VISA overstays. Two things??? Blows your mind, huh?

That's because leftists find it hard to walk and breathe at the same time.

Nope. Visa overstays are the number 1 problem.

How lovely. You've learned to count. Your mommy must be so proud.

Meanwhile, "Number 1 problem" indicates that there are OTHER problems. SOME of us are capable of fixing more than one at a time, and intend to do so just as soon as we can move past your mindless, useless caterwauling.

 

[kaz]

You're out of you mind.

He's out of his mind because he thinks that we should have a southern border. You're out of your mind

We have a southern border. Complete with a fence. The number one problem relative to illegal immigration is visa overstays. But we must all be overly concerned with a southern border. And we all know why that is.

You claim to be a researcher, yet you just told a flat out lie. More people cross the border than VISA overstays.

And wow, how stupid is that we get to pick one thing and one thing only and it must solve all problems. Leftists never offer that on any issue, yet you demand it on every issue. We want to deal with border crossings AND VISA overstays. Two things??? Blows your mind, huh?

That's because leftists find it hard to walk and breathe at the same time.

Nope. Visa overstays are the number 1 problem.

Just more fake news.

Why do you hate black people so much that you want illegal aliens to come and take their jobs for below minimum wage? Jobs is the number one issue for blacks to economically catch up to whites and you keep them poor and destitute

 

[kaz]

Yep, they can't vote if they're not here. You know exactly what you're doing.

Duh, you know, dude, we're 5% of the world, but anyone who lives in the world under a bad government, they just come here! Yeah, that's the way it's always been. Drool. Rad, man

Idiot

Since we made most of those governments bad.....

Yes, we're the cause of all problems in the world. Got it. You just made me literally laugh out loud at you

Keep laughing fool, because I'm right.

I'll keep laughing at the fool who thinks he's right.

You're just a hater.

What about foot fungus? The United States caused that, didn't we? I always suspected that we did

You fit the profile of the Trump supporter. White and dumb.

You fit the profile of a leftist. A dickless dependency whore.

You also fit the profile of a Klansman the way you hate blacks. Particularly black men. Keep them poor and jobless

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.

I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................

You are supporting a dictator who is ruining our country right now.

Nope, he's trying to save it. That's why we voted him in. All we can do now is hope he devises new and stronger border protections TO save this country. Next budget, the wall should not be negotiable. Let the commies shutdown the government if they want.

You're out of you mind.

He's out of his mind because he thinks that we should have a southern border. You're out of your mind

We have a southern border. Complete with a fence. The number one problem relative to illegal immigration is visa overstays. But we must all be overly concerned with a southern border. And we all know why that is.

Drugs don't get into the country on Visa overstays.

SOME of our southern border has a fence, and it's a pretty outdated one as well. We need state of the art technology and construction to battle this invasion.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There wasn't a policy of separating all families until Trump started it. Anyway, it's Diane Feinstein's bill, it's made news in the normal world, I guess it hasn't hit Alex Jones or Fox News or Zero Hedge, whatever shithole you get your news from.

Apparently they are going to stop separating families, did you miss that too? Or were you against it now all along?

Haven't lied one bit.

No, there wasn't a policy of enforcing illegal immigration law until Trump started it.

Anyway, it's amazing how you're such a big fan of this bill, but can't actually tell me what it is.

It's a lie to say Trump "caved", or that he started a policy of separating families, or to pretend that he hasn't been calling for this law you pretend doesn't exist to be changed all along. Come to think of it, it's also a lie for you to pretend the Flores Settlement and the Ninth Circuit ruling regarding it don't exist.

Yes it was because he really cared about these kids, not the fact that the party was’t behind him and only 17 percent of the public approved. He’s just big softy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

At least as believable as leftists caring about these kids, when they haven't done a fucking thing to change the situation.

Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.

I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................

We can laugh as we watch the people they 'helped' slice them up for fun and loot their houses, like the police in Mexico's cities do. Those drone cameras are pretty handy for that. Then, after they loot this place and turn it into San Salvador, they go for Canada. Then they have nobody left to steal from and blame for their self-inflicted idiocy, and they regress back to the Aztec era and all that wonderfullness.

Or so they think; the fact is they're too stupid to conquer anybody even 10% of their own numbers, and they will just start killing each other, themselves being the easiest pickings, which is why MS-13 and the Mexican cartels tend to stay in brown neighborhoods and plunder them, all with La Raza guidance and legal advice, of course.

If somebody wants to try a socialist/ communist society, all they have to do is move to the many outside of our borders. And if they finally realize it's not all that it was cut out to be, they can always move back the the good ole USA if they let them.

Once they turn this place into the likes of all those others, there won't be a USA to move back to. It will be gone forever and the great experiment concluded. There is only one USA, and at least while I'm alive, it's worth preserving it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.

I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................

Again- 50 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Poles.
100 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Germans and Italians.
150 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Irish.

If you want to create a real deterent to coming here, go after the rich white people who are violating the rules by hiring them to start with. Scoop up a bunch of the Yuppie Spawn and their illegal nannies in the park. Do some raids on some factories were they hire day laborers.

The reality is, we have immigration because we NEED immigration. White people aren't even reproducing at replacement rates. (More of us are dying than being born.) With all these old white folks retiring, we need some brown people to do the work we don't want to do.

Americans will do any job provided the pay is satisfactory. How much do you think our solders are working for when they go to war? You live up north. You've seen that lineman up on the pole out in the blowing snow in 0 degree temperatures with winds blowing at 20 mph. You've seen the water department guys in the same weather swishing through the water trying to seal a leak. Americans will do all kinds of jobs.

I agree with you that we need more pressure on employers hiring illegals. It's going on all over the south, and even up north. In fact they just busted a meat packing place here and got over 140 of them. Prior to that, a landscaping company with just over 100. Trump is getting the word out that he means business, it's just getting the Congress to act to have mandatory E-Verify for employers.

ICE arrests 114 at Ohio garden center - CNN

ICE raids Ohio meatpacking plant, 146 arrested

 

[AZGAL]

What is it about the stupid arrogance pretending to be humanitarianism of the far left loonies? Right out of the Orwell doublespeak playbook: WE CARE about children...YET NO PLAN to fix issues that concern poverty and children...HOMELESS families, vets, women, and teens and children all across the USA living in squalid, hopeless conditions on the streets or filthy, depressing shelters, INCLUDING CITIZENS who have circumstances, need psychiatric and medical help, and may have lost everything to a season of HURRICANES with more of this season upon us again. I HAVE SEEN the PICTURES of the SOUTHWEST KEYS children's housing and believe me these children NEVER lived this well not in Central America or Mexico. YET THE LYIN' MSM MEDIA misrepresented the goodwill offered to these immigrant children in these clean, safe, well run facilities with TV and schooling and food. I AGREE THERE WAS A BETTER WAY: simply bring the family to the childrens center for a goodbye meal and assure the parents that the children will see the parents after arraignment in a few days. THEN the entire FAMILY can go to a family location together. I posted the pictures of Southwest Keys on this thread already. CLEAN + GENEROUS.

 

[AZGAL]

E- Verify