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Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.
I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................
Again- 50 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Poles.
100 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Germans and Italians.
150 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Irish.
If you want to create a real deterent to coming here, go after the rich white people who are violating the rules by hiring them to start with. Scoop up a bunch of the Yuppie Spawn and their illegal nannies in the park. Do some raids on some factories were they hire day laborers.
The reality is, we have immigration because we NEED immigration. White people aren't even reproducing at replacement rates. (More of us are dying than being born.) With all these old white folks retiring, we need some brown people to do the work we don't want to do.
Americans will do any job provided the pay is satisfactory. How much do you think our solders are working for when they go to war? You live up north. You've seen that lineman up on the pole out in the blowing snow in 0 degree temperatures with winds blowing at 20 mph. You've seen the water department guys in the same weather swishing through the water trying to seal a leak. Americans will do all kinds of jobs.
I agree with you that we need more pressure on employers hiring illegals. It's going on all over the south, and even up north. In fact they just busted a meat packing place here and got over 140 of them. Prior to that, a landscaping company with just over 100. Trump is getting the word out that he means business, it's just getting the Congress to act to have mandatory E-Verify for employers.
ICE arrests 114 at Ohio garden center - CNN
ICE raids Ohio meatpacking plant, 146 arrested
What is it about the stupid arrogance pretending to be humanitarianism of the far left loonies? Right out of the Orwell doublespeak playbook: WE CARE about children...YET NO PLAN to fix issues that concern poverty and children...HOMELESS families, vets, women, and teens and children all across the USA living in squalid, hopeless conditions on the streets or filthy, depressing shelters, INCLUDING CITIZENS who have circumstances, need psychiatric and medical help, and may have lost everything to a season of HURRICANES with more of this season upon us again. I HAVE SEEN the PICTURES of the SOUTHWEST KEYS children's housing and believe me these children NEVER lived this well not in Central America or Mexico. YET THE LYIN' MSM MEDIA misrepresented the goodwill offered to these immigrant children in these clean, safe, well run facilities with TV and schooling and food. I AGREE THERE WAS A BETTER WAY: simply bring the family to the childrens center for a goodbye meal and assure the parents that the children will see the parents after arraignment in a few days. THEN the entire FAMILY can go to a family location together. I posted the pictures of Southwest Keys on this thread already. CLEAN, SAFE, GENEROUS.
Absolutely. It's all a big MSM show they are putting on to take our minds off of our real important issues and success like the economy and North Korea.
They show a kid getting taken away by agents in these detention centers, and the child is helplessly screaming for his mother. Wait a minute: If an American woman snuck her kid into Mexico, got busted, and had her child ripped out of her arms, would that American child be screaming "mommy" in Spanish? Well.....he would if he was coached. Like I said, big show to tug on the liberal heartstrings.
Don't believe that Democrats care about these kids, Democrats only care about using these kids for THEIR political agenda. If these southern American people were renown to support Republicans, that wall would have been up 50 years ago. Trump just signed an EO to keep those children with their so-called parents, watch how many days it takes until some leftist takes it to court to have it overturned.
We can laugh as we watch the people they 'helped' slice them up for fun and loot their houses, like the police in Mexico's cities do. Those drone cameras are pretty handy for that. Then, after they loot this place and turn it into San Salvador, they go for Canada. Then they have nobody left to steal from and blame for their self-inflicted idiocy, and they regress back to the Aztec era and all that wonderfullness.
Or so they think; the fact is they're too stupid to conquer anybody even 10% of their own numbers, and they will just start killing each other, themselves being the easiest pickings, which is why MS-13 and the Mexican cartels tend to stay in brown neighborhoods and plunder them, all with La Raza guidance and legal advice, of course.
If somebody wants to try a socialist/ communist society, all they have to do is move to the many outside of our borders. And if they finally realize it's not all that it was cut out to be, they can always move back the the good ole USA if they let them.
Once they turn this place into the likes of all those others, there won't be a USA to move back to. It will be gone forever and the great experiment concluded. There is only one USA, and at least while I'm alive, it's worth preserving it.
If someone wants to try a 100% capitalist society they....they can't, it doesn't exist.
Wow, you just blew the .01% of the population who are anarchists out of the water. Your typical worthless post
Sorry, you can't live your wannabe John Galt dreams, don't blame the messenger.
So were you not able to read my post as a defense mechanism or out of pure stupidity?
Good. I only wish it was true.I live near the borders. The ports are not blocked. Sessions is encouraging true ASYLUM SEEKERS to make their intentions known at a border crossing rather than run into the desert or cross a river...
The lawyers who work along the border are saying that’s not what’s happening. Asylum seekers are being slowed down and blocked at the borders. Asylum seekers have to have both feet on US soil to claim asylum. Trump won’t let them do that. That’s why they’re crossing any way they can. People are waiting days and then being turned away from crossing while being told the US is full and they can’t come in.
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I was talking with a friend today who believes the Unites States could easily take in up to 300 million additional people and there is no reason to stop anyone at the border. Her reasoning is that the flow of immigration would end long before we reached that number and everyone would be happier for it.
Then it clearly is not so terrible to you. It's a human cost you find WORTH IT.
I don't know if they are a bigger problem but they are much harder to deport than border jumpers because they are not guilty of a criminal act thus they can't be tried in criminal court, are not eligible for expedited deportation, more likely to be represented by counsel, and more likely to be longer term residents settled in the community and more often professionals.You're out of you mind.
He's out of his mind because he thinks that we should have a southern border. You're out of your mind
We have a southern border. Complete with a fence. The number one problem relative to illegal immigration is visa overstays. But we must all be overly concerned with a southern border. And we all know why that is.
You claim to be a researcher, yet you just told a flat out lie. More people cross the border than VISA overstays.
And wow, how stupid is that we get to pick one thing and one thing only and it must solve all problems. Leftists never offer that on any issue, yet you demand it on every issue. We want to deal with border crossings AND VISA overstays. Two things??? Blows your mind, huh?
That's because leftists find it hard to walk and breathe at the same time.
Nope. Visa overstays are the number 1 problem.
It simply wouldn't be going on.My God imagine if all this was going on with a Hillary as president!View attachment 200211
We could certainly take more people. 300 million? Don't think so. We take about a million legal immigrants a year but 600,000 are changes of status; that is they are already here. Biggest problem in taking too many immigrants is assimilation. You want new immigrants to mix into the population, not form clusters.Good. I only wish it was true.I live near the borders. The ports are not blocked. Sessions is encouraging true ASYLUM SEEKERS to make their intentions known at a border crossing rather than run into the desert or cross a river...
The lawyers who work along the border are saying that’s not what’s happening. Asylum seekers are being slowed down and blocked at the borders. Asylum seekers have to have both feet on US soil to claim asylum. Trump won’t let them do that. That’s why they’re crossing any way they can. People are waiting days and then being turned away from crossing while being told the US is full and they can’t come in.
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I was talking with a friend today who believes the Unites States could easily take in up to 300 million additional people and there is no reason to stop anyone at the border. Her reasoning is that the flow of immigration would end long before we reached that number and everyone would be happier for it.
Yes, this is terrible. I think I know of a solution though: If you have children, STF away from our borders.
Then it clearly is not so terrible to you. It's a human cost you find WORTH IT.
Interesting you keep proposing these false equivalencies.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is terrible. I think I know of a solution though: If you have children, STF away from our borders.
Then it clearly is not so terrible to you. It's a human cost you find WORTH IT.
America did not bring the kids into the country illegally. We also do not allow children to stay in prisons with their criminal parents. Interesting you propose we do that.
What is it about the stupid arrogance pretending to be humanitarianism of the far left loonies? Right out of the Orwell doublespeak playbook: WE CARE about children...YET NO PLAN to fix issues that concern poverty and children...HOMELESS families, vets, women, and teens and children all across the USA living in squalid, hopeless conditions on the streets or filthy, depressing shelters, INCLUDING CITIZENS who have circumstances, need psychiatric and medical help, and may have lost everything to a season of HURRICANES with more of this season upon us again. I HAVE SEEN the PICTURES of the SOUTHWEST KEYS children's housing and believe me these children NEVER lived this well not in Central America or Mexico. YET THE LYIN' MSM MEDIA misrepresented the goodwill offered to these immigrant children in these clean, safe, well run facilities with TV and schooling and food. I AGREE THERE WAS A BETTER WAY: simply bring the family to the childrens center for a goodbye meal and assure the parents that the children will see the parents after arraignment in a few days. THEN the entire FAMILY can go to a family location together. I posted the pictures of Southwest Keys on this thread already. CLEAN, SAFE, GENEROUS.
Absolutely. It's all a big MSM show they are putting on to take our minds off of our real important issues and success like the economy and North Korea.
They show a kid getting taken away by agents in these detention centers, and the child is helplessly screaming for his mother. Wait a minute: If an American woman snuck her kid into Mexico, got busted, and had her child ripped out of her arms, would that American child be screaming "mommy" in Spanish? Well.....he would if he was coached. Like I said, big show to tug on the liberal heartstrings.
Don't believe that Democrats care about these kids, Democrats only care about using these kids for THEIR political agenda. If these southern American people were renown to support Republicans, that wall would have been up 50 years ago. Trump just signed an EO to keep those children with their so-called parents, watch how many days it takes until some leftist takes it to court to have it overturned.
Ben Shapiro addressed this in a brilliant column.
Here’s All The Proof You Need That Democrats Never Cared About Separation Of Illegal Immigrant Children From Parents
". . . when Trump signed the executive order, you’d imagine that Democrats would have celebrated – after all, kids would now be able to stay with their parents, so far as the law allowed!
Instead, Democrats immediately suggested that holding children together with parents was brutal and evil – the same argument civil rights groups made when President Obama pursued the same policy, an argument that ended in a Ninth Circuit ruling mandating the separation of children from parents.
Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA) tweeted:
This Executive Order doesn’t fix the crisis. Indefinitely detaining children with their families in camps is inhumane and will not make us safe.
Senator Bernie Sanders (Loonbag-VT) explained that the executive order didn’t go far enough, because “we have a situation where the Trump administration now, their solution is to provide indefinite detention…the Trump administration wants to undo the Flores settlement, which focuses on the needs of children and limits to 20 days, the number of days that children can be in jail.”"
Yeah, Bernie, that'd be the same settlement you leftists were swearing didn't really exist, AND telling us was "eeeeevil" policy, just five minutes ago. NOW it's "focusing on the needs of children"? Could you ass kittens FIND your minds, and then make them up?
"Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) told CNN that Trump’s new policy – i.e. Obama’s old policy – “could lead to family internment camps.” The execrable Samantha Bee, who was officially named World’s Least Funny Human™ just a few weeks ago, mocked, “Yay! No more baby internment camps, just regular internment camps…Cool! That’s what we call a win in 2018. To be clear, I am happy that at least these kids are theoretically gonna stay with their parents, but Mommy & Me Jails are not a solution.”
So, in other words, they didn’t care all that much about separation, because when the separation is rectified, that too is awful. All those on the Left really want is the full release of all illegal immigrants with children. End of story."
Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.
I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................
Again- 50 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Poles.
100 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Germans and Italians.
150 years ago, some asshole like you said that about the Irish.
If you want to create a real deterent to coming here, go after the rich white people who are violating the rules by hiring them to start with. Scoop up a bunch of the Yuppie Spawn and their illegal nannies in the park. Do some raids on some factories were they hire day laborers.
The reality is, we have immigration because we NEED immigration. White people aren't even reproducing at replacement rates. (More of us are dying than being born.) With all these old white folks retiring, we need some brown people to do the work we don't want to do.
Americans will do any job provided the pay is satisfactory. How much do you think our solders are working for when they go to war? You live up north. You've seen that lineman up on the pole out in the blowing snow in 0 degree temperatures with winds blowing at 20 mph. You've seen the water department guys in the same weather swishing through the water trying to seal a leak. Americans will do all kinds of jobs.
I agree with you that we need more pressure on employers hiring illegals. It's going on all over the south, and even up north. In fact they just busted a meat packing place here and got over 140 of them. Prior to that, a landscaping company with just over 100. Trump is getting the word out that he means business, it's just getting the Congress to act to have mandatory E-Verify for employers.
ICE arrests 114 at Ohio garden center - CNN
ICE raids Ohio meatpacking plant, 146 arrested
Ever seen guys repairing the roads in Arizona in the middle of summer? I mean, yeah, they do the work in the middle of the night, but that still means you're working in the middle of the night, and it's still hotter than Hell's boiler room.
An when hasn't a tyrant claimed he's trying to save the country. What a leader is trying to do often is less important than the methods he's using.Yes it was because he really cared about these kids, not the fact that the party was’t behind him and only 17 percent of the public approved. He’s just big softy.
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At least as believable as leftists caring about these kids, when they haven't done a fucking thing to change the situation.
Why would they change it? It's working in their favor. The MSM, the moderate right like Medved and Hewitt, the women are all on board with the destruction of this country by not providing deterrents to come here. The invaders are winning to the point Trump is even giving in.
I'd hate to be alive in this country 50 years or so from today; a socialist, communist nightmare that the folks are creating today. But like the frog in the pot of cold water on the stove....................
You are supporting a dictator who is ruining our country right now.
Nope, he's trying to save it. That's why we voted him in. All we can do now is hope he devises new and stronger border protections TO save this country. Next budget, the wall should not be negotiable. Let the commies shutdown the government if they want.
