Andylusion
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- Jan 23, 2014
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It's not a story. Ever hear of the Civil War?
Just because most of us never had to doesn't mean nobody did. We lost a lot of Americans to create and maintain this great place we call America. But that doesn't mean this great place is open to the world. What you want is never ending immigration until the point these people take over our country and turn it into one of theirs which will happen if we don't have massive restrictions on our borders.
We don't have 12 million illegals here because we did enough, we have them because at times we didn't do anything. It's about time we start.
What you are saying is exactly what was said about every other immigration group - they don't assimilate. Yet they do. I'm tired of the constant (and false) argument that if I oppose certain policies I MUST be for open borders and unrestricted immigration.
I'm not.
Oh, sure they assimilate. Why didn't I have to press 1 on my phone to speak our language 20 years ago? Why were signs on the doors in English only 20 years ago and not today? Why do they ask me what language I want my ballot in when I vote; something they never had to ask 20 years ago?
I'm a truck driver and run into a lot of foreigners who are taking American jobs and keeping our wages low. Many of them don't know a word of English, yet they are on the road driving right next to your minivan on our highways with a 75,000 lbs killing machine.
Many of them are not assimilating. They are changing our country instead.
On this I actually agree with Ray.
If you immigrate to Germany, you are required.... REQUIRED.... to learn German. It's not an option. You must do it.
If you go to Denmark, you are required to learn how to swim with co-eds. It's not an option. You must do it.
Why? Because in Germany they speak German, and you need to learn German to be a productive useful citizen that is not a burden on the country. Because in Denmark, there are waterways everywhere, and in order to both be able to save yourself, and your fellow citizens, no matter what gender you are, or they are, you need to know how to swim and save people.
I mention both of these, because both of these countries have deported immigrants who refused to learn German, or learn how to swim with co-eds.
There was some Muslim women that went to Denmark with her family, but refused to learn how to swim. They shipped her butt back to where she came from, and rightly so. There was a Muslim man who refused to learn German because Arabic is all he needed. They shipped his butt back to where he came from.
So where I differ from the right-wingers on here, is that I have no problem at all, with immigrants coming to this country. I find most of the immigrants, with some exceptions, to be wonderful people that I love coming here, and I am particular to Christian immigrants.
However, where I agree with the right-wing completely and if it were up to me, I'd have it be required by law, is that they MUST INTEGRATE. They must learn English, they must learn US customs. They need to learn to how to take a bath. They need to learn how to speak and read properly.
This is one of the very few areas, that I actually support Federal programs for it. Generally I'm against all Federal programs, but I would be supportive of a program for teaching basic American etiquette, and American language. (meaning American English).
You want to come here? Great! Fantastic. Come on in, but you dump your culture that you came from, and you adapt to American Culture. None of this multi-cultural crap that hasn't worked for the last 50+ years. You come here, that's wonderful, but you become an American. You don't want to? That's fine. Stay where you are. You can come when you want to be an American.
The problem is they don't come here to be American, they come here to use America.
We don't have as much of a problem with immigrants up north as they do in the south, but from what I understand, they pack 12 people in a two bedroom house and after all expenses are met, they send the rest of their money back over the border.
We do have a system for integration, and that is to only allow 1 million people a year to come here. At one point in the early 1900's they just about closed down the border to allow people to assimilate because they were getting like the immigrants that are here today and changing the country.
You are correct. I lived in an apartment complex once, in Tucson, where ICE raided another apartment right after I moved in. You would not have BELIEVED the number of people they took out of that two-bedroom apartment in handcuffs. It was like a clown car. And THEN they started clearing out boxes and containers, and going through them for contraband. Holy shit. Took hours, and the amount of stuff they found . . . yow.
And that's a different thing. There are drug groups that are operating in the US, from Mexico, and those people need shot. as in.... shot. They keep coming back, when we send them home alive..... we can fix that.