What human cost is acceptable in controling illegal immigration?

[Pop23]

No illegal aliens-children or otherwise-should be allowed to stay. Zero tolerance. End of story.

How about the unnecessary separation of children from their parents?

It's a deterrent, as in, don't want to be separated from your children, then don't bring them here illegally. Once the word gets around, they'll cut it out. maybe.

Now that would be pretty dumb, applying for asylum out of fear for the lives of the family members and then leave the kids there.

The fear that caused them to also leave their papers behind?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Or we could do the intelligent thing and have seasonal workers as we do and follow up on them and and of course give them a f******ID card to do it

IF we NEED seasonal workers.

We do, to keep cost of produce down... Or by all means whatever. But do it intelligently and a goddamn facking ID card like most other modern countries have. But of course that would be communist right, GOP dupe?

If your concern is keeping prices down, why don't we get rid of the national minimum wage?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

None of this stuff would be an issue if the Latin American Socialists were not destroying their own countries and driving their populations into flight.

And nowhere is that more clearly the case than in the train wreck to our south known as Mexico.

If they broke up the monopolies, and allowed Mexican small businessmen to compete, thereby opening thousands of companies and hiring millions of people, poor Mexicans would be happy in Mexico, instead of migrating north.

Also, needed is to deprive Mexico of the tons of Billions$$/year they get from USA remittances$$ and us paying their poverty bill - thankfully, we finally have a POTUS who is working on that.

Mexico is ruined by drug gangs and resultant corruption, stupid dupe, caused by us. Caused by us, hater dupe.

It has nothing to do with us. Even if it did, that would mean you support a wall to help keep the drugs out of this country.

 

[protectionist]

So there is no drug gang problem in Mexico? No resultant corruption? You are out of your mind.

I didn't say there wasn't. Here's something to get you up to speed on Mexico. I wrote it a few years ago, but it's still valid.

CDZ - Brief Expose' Of The Mexican Invasion Of The United States (1950-2016)

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No illegal aliens-children or otherwise-should be allowed to stay. Zero tolerance. End of story.

How about the unnecessary separation of children from their parents?

It's a deterrent, as in, don't want to be separated from your children, then don't bring them here illegally. Once the word gets around, they'll cut it out. maybe.

Now that would be pretty dumb, applying for asylum out of fear for the lives of the family members and then leave the kids there.

So then it somehow becomes our problem, right? Why didn't they just stay in Mexico if that's what they feared?

 

[protectionist]

The problem is it's happening with those trying for Asylum... Ordinary illegals caught that could happen, but that would be for a few days before being sent back right? Actually they could keep them together since they're all illegal. Why do you GOPers have to be cruel just for the hell of it. Of course racism no longer exists, right? LOL!

Never let an opportunity to flash the race card go by unused, right ?

 

[Gracie]

Look....its not nice to separate kids from families but this is on the parents doing this shit, isn't it? Why are we subject to nice nice crap by people breaking our laws but every other country gets a pass? Imagine Trying to move to any place in europe..france, uk, spain, etc...taking yer kids with ya. What do you think those countries would do? Put you up in a motel with your family while you apply for citizenship? Oh hell no.
So what IS the answer? Keep doing what we are doing to stop people with harsh consequences for THEIR actions. If this means dividing kids from parents..well....maybe eventually the parents will get a clue and cease breaking our laws.

This is about them trying to get Asylum from gang violence caused by your stupid War on Drugs.

Not our problem. Its THEIR problem.
As I said...we need to concentrate on our own.

 

[protectionist]

They did. They had 5 of them.

Looks like they needed 6.

 

[Gracie]

Look....its not nice to separate kids from families but this is on the parents doing this shit, isn't it? Why are we subject to nice nice crap by people breaking our laws but every other country gets a pass? Imagine Trying to move to any place in europe..france, uk, spain, etc...taking yer kids with ya. What do you think those countries would do? Put you up in a motel with your family while you apply for citizenship? Oh hell no.
So what IS the answer? Keep doing what we are doing to stop people with harsh consequences for THEIR actions. If this means dividing kids from parents..well....maybe eventually the parents will get a clue and cease breaking our laws.

That's pretty unlikely. Most of those attempting to enter illegally now are not job seekers from Mexico. They come from places that are so bad, there's nothing we can do to them that is worst than home. In Honduras when they take away your kids which is very common, they're either dead or wish they were.

So...WE are supposed to now support and raise their kids?

If they go into foster care instead of staying with their parents in a family detention center, it's certainly possible.

Um. Yeah. No.
We need to take care of our own.

We are the richest country on Earth and we can do both with intelligent government. Which we haven't had for 50 years. Thanks GOP for keeping stupid wedge issues going forever to keep the dupes in line...

We are not the world police or the world food bank or the world hospital.
We need to take care of our own. Period.

 

[Natural Citizen]

If your concern is keeping prices down, why don't we get rid of the national minimum wage?

Better yet, why don't we shut down the fed's printing press? Because that's the real reason prices go up. But we don't want that, do we? It costs money to bomb coloreds and steal their oil, huh.

 

[protectionist]

Pass the goddamn ID card with computer chip. And enforce it. End it. Democrats have been trying to get that forever. Your brainwashing Heroes block actual Solutions, super duper s.

What exactly are you saying that this illustrious ID card is going to do ?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

They would have to do what everybody else did, and that is raise their prices. If labor becomes so expensive the can't find any workers, then the next step is to invest in automation.

There is still a lot of farm and field work that can't be done by machines. However much of the picking done manually could be mechanized but at a high cost. Again, the farmer would have to raise prices making his product less competitive on world markets, and also in the US.

Then that's what needs to happen.

Or we could do the intelligent thing and have a good ID card including for seasonal workers and end illegal immigration forever. You idiots with the useless wall will just keep this mess going forever, what the mega rich idiot greedy GOP Masters want...

Oh please. You commies are all for ID cards except when it comes to voting.

Yeah, an ID card will stop the flow of illegals into this country, give Americans their jobs back, and stop the flow of money going over the border every year. Yeah, a stupid card will do all that.

But we'll keep letting them have anchor babies, keep giving them drivers licenses, keep printing signs and ballots in their language, keep allowing them to send their kids to our schools and get loans from the banks.

You are such a puppet. You're exactly what the Democrat party depends on.

There are no commies, dingbat dupe. A highly enforced ID card is the only answer, would end everything you mentioned, unlike a wall and horrible harassment laws and treatment that appeal to misinformed often racist GOP dupes. You idiots believe Democrats are for open borders and are communists LOL! Brainwashed functional moron is you. Totally misinformed.

Would you like to play a game? I'll post a quote and you tell me if it's a Democrat platform or the USCP platform. I bet you miss half the time.

Your stupid card won't do squat. It won't stop people from coming to this country, fake cards will be made and sold on the black market, and it won't do a damn thing about drugs coming into this country.

 

[protectionist]

We are not the world police or the world food bank or the world hospital.
We need to take care of our own. Period.

Yes. And when other countries become less reliant on us (in a number of ways), they'll start being more reliant on themselves. Sure they're poor, but so were we many years ago. And many of us still are now (including many seniors and veterans)

 

[Flopper]

No illegal aliens-children or otherwise-should be allowed to stay. Zero tolerance. End of story.

How about the unnecessary separation of children from their parents?

It's a deterrent, as in, don't want to be separated from your children, then don't bring them here illegally. Once the word gets around, they'll cut it out. maybe.

Now that would be pretty dumb, applying for asylum out of fear for the lives of the family members and then leave the kids there.

So then it somehow becomes our problem, right? Why didn't they just stay in Mexico if that's what they feared?

Yes, it does become our problem when they cross our boarders. Mexico does send them back and they grant asylum to only 1 in 20 that apply. With the deteriorating relations between the US and Mexico, they're probably busing them to the US boarder so they'll be our problem.

 

[protectionist]

Would you like to play a game? I'll post a quote and you tell me if it's a Democrat platform or the USCP platform. I bet you miss half the time.

Your stupid card won't do squat. It won't stop people from coming to this country, fake cards will be made and sold on the black market, and it won't do a damn thing about drugs coming into this country.

They were selling fake County photo ID cards at my local flea market, a few months ago. (only $10 each) - but they still don't show that you're a citizen (eligible to vote)

 

[protectionist]

Yes, it does become our problem when they cross our boarders. Mexico does send them back and they grant asylum to only 1 in 20 that apply. With the deteriorating relations between the US and Mexico, they're probably busing them to the US boarder so they'll be our problem.

They've been doing that for decades.

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

 

[francoHFW]

You are screwed, that is all you need know-)

Pass the goddamn ID card with computer chip. And enforce it. End it. Democrats have been trying to get that forever. Your brainwashing Heroes block actual Solutions, super duper s.

Hey super DUPEr, how the hell you doing?

Good to see you are here, even as your whole damn Leftist agenda collapses.

What a deal, isn't it! And you thought you had it, lololololol!

We haven't been able to pass anything for 30 years...

 

[francoHFW]

Would you like to play a game? I'll post a quote and you tell me if it's a Democrat platform or the USCP platform. I bet you miss half the time.

Your stupid card won't do squat. It won't stop people from coming to this country, fake cards will be made and sold on the black market, and it won't do a damn thing about drugs coming into this country.

They were selling fake County photo ID cards at my local flea market, a few months ago. (only $10 each) - but they still don't show that you're a citizen (eligible to vote)

No computer chips there, super duper.

 

[francoHFW]

That isn’t calling for open borders. Talk about distortion.

There's a case to be made for open borders. But this demands a free society. We don't have a free society. But if we did, there's a case to be made for it.

Anyway. Are you like a warrior chick now? Raaaaaaaar....

No one wants open borders for immigrants, super duper. Change the channel

 

[Natural Citizen]

No one wants open borders for immigrants, super duper. Change the channel

What no one wants is freedom. It isn't popular.