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So...WE are supposed to now support and raise their kids?That's pretty unlikely. Most of those attempting to enter illegally now are not job seekers from Mexico. They come from places that are so bad, there's nothing we can do to them that is worst than home. In Honduras when they take away your kids which is very common, they're either dead or wish they were.Look....its not nice to separate kids from families but this is on the parents doing this shit, isn't it? Why are we subject to nice nice crap by people breaking our laws but every other country gets a pass? Imagine Trying to move to any place in europe..france, uk, spain, etc...taking yer kids with ya. What do you think those countries would do? Put you up in a motel with your family while you apply for citizenship? Oh hell no.
So what IS the answer? Keep doing what we are doing to stop people with harsh consequences for THEIR actions. If this means dividing kids from parents..well....maybe eventually the parents will get a clue and cease breaking our laws.
They and blacks are natural Republicans but they know the GOP is full of racists and bigots. Tough luck.
It is perplexing. They haven't won a popular vote since 2004 and haven't won a popular vote when they were not the incumbent since 1988. As Hispanic immigrants move from the South up into the northern reaches of the country (Where "we don't get many Hispanics" as the INS guy put it before he detained two women in Montana if memory serves), the carefully gerrymandered districts become vulnerable.
Whether the Democrats can hold on to the Hispanic vote is another question all together--nobody snatches defeat from the jaws of victory like a DEM. But the GOP is not doing itself any favors.
So your suggestion is to just surrender.
Perhaps not be a total prick
Support for protecting your borders is being a total prick?
A hard and fast policy of Ripping kids from their parents is
There is still a lot of farm and field work that can't be done by machines. However much of the picking done manually could be mechanized but at a high cost. Again, the farmer would have to raise prices making his product less competitive on world markets, and also in the US.If American farmers paid workers twice what they make now, they would lose a large percent of the 135 billion dollars in food product exports. Even if American workers would work the fields for twice the pay, farmers couldn't pay it.We pay people not to work and call it government assistance and we allow illegal migrants to flood our fields at half the cost the position should compensate....creating a welfare dependent class of easily guided sheeple to vote to keep the status quo in place so the swamp can continue to enrich themselves....Exactly right. I have no sympathy for traitorous businesses who hire illegal aliens because they say they can't afford to pay American standard wages. If you can't do that, then you can't afford to be in business, and you shouldn't be in it.Pay better..... and hire American...the sugar beat industry is doing it and doing well thank you....
Tired of whinny farmers....pay a living wage high enough to attract US citizens or support a new migrant worker program...I know your labor costs will go up either way but hey!....welcome to the real world....
So what do you do ? Go out and do what all the rest of us who can't afford to own a business do. Get a job!
They would have to do what everybody else did, and that is raise their prices. If labor becomes so expensive the can't find any workers, then the next step is to invest in automation.
Or we could do the intelligent thing and have a good ID card including for seasonal workers and end illegal immigration forever. You idiots with the useless wall will just keep this mess going forever, what the mega rich idiot greedy GOP Masters want...There is still a lot of farm and field work that can't be done by machines. However much of the picking done manually could be mechanized but at a high cost. Again, the farmer would have to raise prices making his product less competitive on world markets, and also in the US.If American farmers paid workers twice what they make now, they would lose a large percent of the 135 billion dollars in food product exports. Even if American workers would work the fields for twice the pay, farmers couldn't pay it.We pay people not to work and call it government assistance and we allow illegal migrants to flood our fields at half the cost the position should compensate....creating a welfare dependent class of easily guided sheeple to vote to keep the status quo in place so the swamp can continue to enrich themselves....Exactly right. I have no sympathy for traitorous businesses who hire illegal aliens because they say they can't afford to pay American standard wages. If you can't do that, then you can't afford to be in business, and you shouldn't be in it.
So what do you do ? Go out and do what all the rest of us who can't afford to own a business do. Get a job!
They would have to do what everybody else did, and that is raise their prices. If labor becomes so expensive the can't find any workers, then the next step is to invest in automation.
Then that's what needs to happen.
Actually they are fleeing drug gangs caused by our stupid War on Drugs. Actually your stupid War on Drugs.Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump:
"If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law," Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday at a law enforcement conference in Scottsdale, Arizona. "If you don't like that, then don't smuggle children over our border."
Administration officials explained that the goal of the program is 100 percent prosecution of all who enter the U.S. illegally. When adults are prosecuted and jailed, their children will be separated from them, just as would happen for a U.S. citizen convicted and jailed.
Anguish at Southwest border as more immigrant children are separated from parents
The Trump administration's willingness to take children from their parents has raised concerns about how far authorities should go to stem unauthorized border crossings and what human cost is acceptable in the name of border security and immigration control.
"There is something terrible happening here that Americans would not support if they understood it," said F. Scott McCown, director of the Children’s Rights Clinic at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law.
I don't care how much you hate illegal immigrants this is EVIL. You are punishing the children. It's abhorrant and wrong and inexcusable. I hope they rot in hell for this. 700 children so far have been seperated from the only family they know and lost to our often incompetent and mismanaged child care system. I fail to see how any parent could support actions like these.
When parents are held for prosecution, their children are turned over to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, part of the Department of Health and Human Services. The children are then designated as "unaccompanied minors," and the government tries to connect them to family members who are already in the U.S. Until then, children wait in shelters or are sent to federally contracted foster homes, often without parents being told exactly where they are, immigration advocates said.
It may soon become even more difficult to place children with relatives. The Department of Homeland Security is proposing immigration checks be done on all people in a household who may take in these "unaccompanied" children, which means relatives who are undocumented may be less likely to come forward.
In the meantime, space in shelters and foster homes is limited; The Washington Post reported the administration plans to open facilities at military bases to house some of the separated children.
None of this stuff would be an issue if the Latin American Socialists were not destroying their own countries and driving their populations into flight.
We are the richest country on Earth and we can do both with intelligent government. Which we haven't had for 50 years. Thanks GOP for keeping stupid wedge issues going forever to keep the dupes in line...Um. Yeah. No.If they go into foster care instead of staying with their parents in a family detention center, it's certainly possible.So...WE are supposed to now support and raise their kids?That's pretty unlikely. Most of those attempting to enter illegally now are not job seekers from Mexico. They come from places that are so bad, there's nothing we can do to them that is worst than home. In Honduras when they take away your kids which is very common, they're either dead or wish they were.Look....its not nice to separate kids from families but this is on the parents doing this shit, isn't it? Why are we subject to nice nice crap by people breaking our laws but every other country gets a pass? Imagine Trying to move to any place in europe..france, uk, spain, etc...taking yer kids with ya. What do you think those countries would do? Put you up in a motel with your family while you apply for citizenship? Oh hell no.
So what IS the answer? Keep doing what we are doing to stop people with harsh consequences for THEIR actions. If this means dividing kids from parents..well....maybe eventually the parents will get a clue and cease breaking our laws.
We need to take care of our own.
This is about them trying to get Asylum from gang violence caused by your stupid War on Drugs.Look....its not nice to separate kids from families but this is on the parents doing this shit, isn't it? Why are we subject to nice nice crap by people breaking our laws but every other country gets a pass? Imagine Trying to move to any place in europe..france, uk, spain, etc...taking yer kids with ya. What do you think those countries would do? Put you up in a motel with your family while you apply for citizenship? Oh hell no.
So what IS the answer? Keep doing what we are doing to stop people with harsh consequences for THEIR actions. If this means dividing kids from parents..well....maybe eventually the parents will get a clue and cease breaking our laws.
Or we could do the intelligent thing and have a good ID card including for seasonal workers and end illegal immigration forever. You idiots with the useless wall will just keep this mess going forever, what the mega rich idiot greedy GOP Masters want...There is still a lot of farm and field work that can't be done by machines. However much of the picking done manually could be mechanized but at a high cost. Again, the farmer would have to raise prices making his product less competitive on world markets, and also in the US.If American farmers paid workers twice what they make now, they would lose a large percent of the 135 billion dollars in food product exports. Even if American workers would work the fields for twice the pay, farmers couldn't pay it.We pay people not to work and call it government assistance and we allow illegal migrants to flood our fields at half the cost the position should compensate....creating a welfare dependent class of easily guided sheeple to vote to keep the status quo in place so the swamp can continue to enrich themselves....
They would have to do what everybody else did, and that is raise their prices. If labor becomes so expensive the can't find any workers, then the next step is to invest in automation.
Then that's what needs to happen.
There are no commies, dingbat dupe. A highly enforced ID card is the only answer, would end everything you mentioned, unlike a wall and horrible harassment laws and treatment that appeal to misinformed often racist GOP dupes. You idiots believe Democrats are for open borders and are communists LOL! Brainwashed functional moron is you. Totally misinformed.Or we could do the intelligent thing and have a good ID card including for seasonal workers and end illegal immigration forever. You idiots with the useless wall will just keep this mess going forever, what the mega rich idiot greedy GOP Masters want...There is still a lot of farm and field work that can't be done by machines. However much of the picking done manually could be mechanized but at a high cost. Again, the farmer would have to raise prices making his product less competitive on world markets, and also in the US.If American farmers paid workers twice what they make now, they would lose a large percent of the 135 billion dollars in food product exports. Even if American workers would work the fields for twice the pay, farmers couldn't pay it.
They would have to do what everybody else did, and that is raise their prices. If labor becomes so expensive the can't find any workers, then the next step is to invest in automation.
Then that's what needs to happen.
Oh please. You commies are all for ID cards except when it comes to voting.
Yeah, an ID card will stop the flow of illegals into this country, give Americans their jobs back, and stop the flow of money going over the border every year. Yeah, a stupid card will do all that.
But we'll keep letting them have anchor babies, keep giving them drivers licenses, keep printing signs and ballots in their language, keep allowing them to send their kids to our schools and get loans from the banks.
You are such a puppet. You're exactly what the Democrat party depends on.
Poor Americans like that are the result of the last 35 years of GOP dominance and obstruction. So end it and stop dicking around stupid un American walls and screwing random Hispanics...Well, to flip the OP's initial question the other way : What human cost is acceptable in ALLOWING illegal immigration?
I have seen enough, our country is being divided. We have pro illegal exploiters and their political Quislings that are so cynical about this issue it is disgusting.
And we have poor Americans relegated to the curb and poverty as a result, and the net effect of allowing illegal immigration is the dissolution of American culture. Unacceptable.
Wrong! That was OBAMA's ICE, which defined a summons and a walk-away ("catch & release") as a deportation. Sorry. Doesn't meet my definition >> ie. somebody leaving the USA, and gone back to their home country.
1. Coming in here and pretending that amnesty-voting, sanctuary city-voting Democrats are not for open borders is simply asinine.There are no commies, dingbat dupe. A highly enforced ID card is the only answer, would end everything you mentioned, unlike a wall and horrible harassment laws and treatment that appeal to misinformed often racist GOP dupes. You idiots believe Democrats are for open borders and are communists LOL! Brainwashed functional moron is you. Totally misinformed.
Poor Americans are also the result of Democrat open border policies (amnesty, sanctuary, birthright citizenship, welfare for illegals, etc) and thus, resulting illegal immigration taking jobs away from Americans. It also results from businesses being deprived of sales due to immigration remittances$$$$.Poor Americans like that are the result of the last 35 years of GOP dominance and obstruction. So end it and stop dicking around stupid un American walls and screwing random Hispanics...
If farmers can't pay American wages, they can't afford to be farmers in America.There is still a lot of farm and field work that can't be done by machines. However much of the picking done manually could be mechanized but at a high cost. Again, the farmer would have to raise prices making his product less competitive on world markets, and also in the US.
I have seen Mexicans (unable to speak English) showing up at the welfare office, driving shiny, new cars.When you think about illegal aliens, you probably are thinking a poor little group of famished Mexicans hiding in the shadows, barley eking out a living fearing a knock on their door. Well, think again. No, instead they are emboldened to strut around like they can't do any wrong. Because they get SANCTUARY. I live in a sanctuary city/state. And yet I see homeless Americans living tents begging for money. Most of these people lost their jobs and homes because entire industries switched to illegal aliens, it happens, it's a non negotiable fact. Poor Americans want a better life too, and they deserve a little more recognition and respect than being treated like disposable trash. Why don't we give poor Americans sanctuary instead?
Lucky for the kids.In foster care, they are often moved from family to family. Recently it was reported that DHS was unable to determine the whereabouts of nearly 1500 kids. This means the parents will likely be deported without their kids under the Trump zero tolerance policy.
Then they shouldn't be farmers..If American farmers paid workers twice what they make now, they would lose a large percent of the 135 billion dollars in food product exports. Even if American workers would work the fields for twice the pay, farmers couldn't pay it.
It does whatever the computer chip says. It can also be voter ID so we can end that imaginary GOP crisis LOL.1. Coming in here and pretending that amnesty-voting, sanctuary city-voting Democrats are not for open borders is simply asinine.There are no commies, dingbat dupe. A highly enforced ID card is the only answer, would end everything you mentioned, unlike a wall and horrible harassment laws and treatment that appeal to misinformed often racist GOP dupes. You idiots believe Democrats are for open borders and are communists LOL! Brainwashed functional moron is you. Totally misinformed.
2. An ID card only (maybe) informs that you are you.....not that you're eligible to vote.
