What if Bernie wins in 2020?

[skookerasbil]

I want to make sure I have this straight. When Obama was in office, the fed was cutting rates every chance they had. You stated that we are still benefiting from Obama's economy under Trump. If so, shouldn't the fed still be cutting rates? Does the fed only cut rates when the economy is NOT on solid footing, like the entire time Obama was in office?

Obama dealt with the worst recession in 80 years... Trump is cutting rates to keep the economy going because the minute Wall Street sneezes, he knows the Republicans will turn on him.

1) After doing some more research, we are actually much higher than that, but I don't really care what you believe. Based on your posts, I can believe you are about where you say you are economically speaking. The reason you haven't climbed further up the economic ladder seems in part due to an attitude problem(get the man) and in part due to living in a Democratically controlled state that keeps people down with extremely high taxes and high real estate costs.

Hey, guy, just because you suck capitalist dick doesn't mean the rest of us want to.

Next year, they'll give you personalized kneepads.

2) What policies would that be?

New Deal. Promotion of labor rights. Progressive tax rates on the rich.

I guess you don't get out much. Maybe you can't afford it, living in a high cost of living blue state, but as I have stated before, all of you wingnuts come to my state to vacation and many to live. Your perception of red states has evidently been formed by some trips to bad areas. It is like me going to the Bronx and deeming all of NY a dump. If I had gone to the Hamptons, I may have a slightly different perspective. Anyway, don't care. Stay in the high tax red state and work 2 jobs to live in a very modest home. That is very cool with me.

They go there for the weather. They avoid dealing with you inbred, bible thumping rednecks. They also go to Mexico for vacation... no one wants to live there, either.

My view of the South is that you are all inbred, bible thumping morons...

I don't disagree that eventually those that don't want to work will outnumber those of us that do. That is the nature of things. This is what will eventually destroy our country. The Democrats have us on the fast track towards this demise. Those who actually are working and making a decent living while voting Democrat either have some screws lose and/or are brainwashed and ignorant.

Fuckwad, most of us are working very hard. We're just done with making the rich richer.

You'll be standing at the edge of a ditch with one of those people pointing a gun at you, wondering what you did wrong as your last thought.

Dang.....the anger s0n!! Has the level of misery become that profound?

Bible thumpers outnumber your type by miles.....miles!! That's all that matters.....when you're thinking is fringe, basically you dont matter in society.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

If Kasich were nominated he would have lost IMO. I am far from super rich and I love free markets. It’s the only fair way to operate. You want to sell a car the market decides value. When Govt interferes it ruins it. Fewer regulations and more free markets. Including in healthcare.

Uh, guy. Let's look at that.

Cars. Okay. The free market brought us the Pinto. Ford knew the Pinto was dangerous, but some bean counters figured it would be cheaper to pay out the people who got burned to death than to do a complete recall of millions of units and do an $11.00 repair. This is what the "Market" decided. 180 people died before the government MADE Ford fix the problem.

The fact is, the reason why our cars are so safe right now is that the government demanded safety features. The reason why American cars lost out to the Japanese and Germans was because they produced a better car (stricter government standards) and because they could be more competitive with universal health care and strong worker's rights.

On to Kasich. Do you really think there were any Trump supporters who would have voted for Hillary over Kasich? I can't think of a one. Some of them might have stayed home, but not many. Their hatred of Hillary was just too strong. They'd have rather destroyed the country than let her run it... and they pretty much have.

On the other hand a lot of people who voted for Hillary probably would have been fine with Kasich. You know, because he's not a crazy racist like Trump is. A lot of people who pissed away their votes on third parties probably would have voted for him.

Pinto? No if cars broke down people would stop buying them and buy other cars. Ford made better cars and safer cars so that more people would buy them. Supply and demand and free markets.

I believe as you alluded to, many would have stayed home and not voted for Kasich. In my opinion. We have zero way of proving that of course but if you’re right then you’re admitting that the Democrats ran an awful candidate and you fail to explain why they are doing the same thing in 2020.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

My thoughts are:

• He tries to break up the big banks;
• Taxes Wall St and corporate America at a much higher rate than what they are comfortable with;
• Pushes Green New Deal Agenda;
• Pushes UH;
• Pushes for a two state solution in Israel and destroys those relations, making the Middle East that much more dangerous;
• More regulations.

As a result the stock market drops significantly, corporate America pulls back on hiring and CAPEX, unemployment rises and this message board blows up (not literally).

I welcome your thoughts.

He will not be the nominee. Do not waste your VOTE voting for him. He is unelectable.

Did your crystal ball tell you that?

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[Hellbilly]

My thoughts are:

• He tries to break up the big banks;
• Taxes Wall St and corporate America at a much higher rate than what they are comfortable with;
• Pushes Green New Deal Agenda;
• Pushes UH;
• Pushes for a two state solution in Israel and destroys those relations, making the Middle East that much more dangerous;
• More regulations.

As a result the stock market drops significantly, corporate America pulls back on hiring and CAPEX, unemployment rises and this message board blows up (not literally).

I welcome your thoughts.

He will not be the nominee. Do not waste your VOTE voting for him. He is unelectable.

Did your crystal ball tell you that?

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Is he not allowed to have an opinion?

Fuck off.


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[AzogtheDefiler]

My thoughts are:

• He tries to break up the big banks;
• Taxes Wall St and corporate America at a much higher rate than what they are comfortable with;
• Pushes Green New Deal Agenda;
• Pushes UH;
• Pushes for a two state solution in Israel and destroys those relations, making the Middle East that much more dangerous;
• More regulations.

As a result the stock market drops significantly, corporate America pulls back on hiring and CAPEX, unemployment rises and this message board blows up (not literally).

I welcome your thoughts.

He will not be the nominee. Do not waste your VOTE voting for him. He is unelectable.

Did your crystal ball tell you that?

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Is he not allowed to have an opinion?

Fuck off.


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[Hellbilly]

My thoughts are:

• He tries to break up the big banks;
• Taxes Wall St and corporate America at a much higher rate than what they are comfortable with;
• Pushes Green New Deal Agenda;
• Pushes UH;
• Pushes for a two state solution in Israel and destroys those relations, making the Middle East that much more dangerous;
• More regulations.

As a result the stock market drops significantly, corporate America pulls back on hiring and CAPEX, unemployment rises and this message board blows up (not literally).

I welcome your thoughts.

He will not be the nominee. Do not waste your VOTE voting for him. He is unelectable.

Did your crystal ball tell you that?

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Is he not allowed to have an opinion?

Fuck off.


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Love you too.

Fuck off, asshole.


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[AzogtheDefiler]

He will not be the nominee. Do not waste your VOTE voting for him. He is unelectable.

Did your crystal ball tell you that?

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Fuck off.


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Fuck off, asshole.


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[JoeB131]

Pinto? No if cars broke down people would stop buying them and buy other cars. Ford made better cars and safer cars so that more people would buy them. Supply and demand and free markets.

Did you miss the point. The point was, the capitalist market you bragged about killed 180 people because Ford decided that they'd lose more money protecting their customers. I'm not sure there's any point talking to you if you can't understand very basic concepts, and I dumbed that down for you as much as I could.

I believe as you alluded to, many would have stayed home and not voted for Kasich. In my opinion. We have zero way of proving that of course but if you’re right then you’re admitting that the Democrats ran an awful candidate and you fail to explain why they are doing the same thing in 2020.

The numbers don't really suggest that. In fact, quite the reverse.

Consider Mitt Romney... you know, the guy you all hate now. Awful Candidate... Weird religion, nobody was thrilled with him at all. Yet he still got 61 Million votes compared to Trump's 63 million. As a percentage of the electorate, Trump actually got LESS votes than Romney did. (46% to 47%).

Where the real bleed happened was that while Hillary did get 3 million more votes than Trump did, (just not in the right places because she didn't do her groundwork), she got only about the same amount as Obama did. As a percentage, she got 48% compared to Obama's 52%.

Where the real bleed came in was in third party candidates, which went from 2.2 million in 2016 to 7.8 Million.

People figured Hillary had it in the bag, so there was no point in showing up and they could even vote for a third party candidate to express their disgust.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Pinto? No if cars broke down people would stop buying them and buy other cars. Ford made better cars and safer cars so that more people would buy them. Supply and demand and free markets.

Did you miss the point. The point was, the capitalist market you bragged about killed 180 people because Ford decided that they'd lose more money protecting their customers. I'm not sure there's any point talking to you if you can't understand very basic concepts, and I dumbed that down for you as much as I could.

I believe as you alluded to, many would have stayed home and not voted for Kasich. In my opinion. We have zero way of proving that of course but if you’re right then you’re admitting that the Democrats ran an awful candidate and you fail to explain why they are doing the same thing in 2020.

The numbers don't really suggest that. In fact, quite the reverse.

Consider Mitt Romney... you know, the guy you all hate now. Awful Candidate... Weird religion, nobody was thrilled with him at all. Yet he still got 61 Million votes compared to Trump's 63 million. As a percentage of the electorate, Trump actually got LESS votes than Romney did. (46% to 47%).

Where the real bleed happened was that while Hillary did get 3 million more votes than Trump did, (just not in the right places because she didn't do her groundwork), she got only about the same amount as Obama did. As a percentage, she got 48% compared to Obama's 52%.

Where the real bleed came in was in third party candidates, which went from 2.2 million in 2016 to 7.8 Million.

People figured Hillary had it in the bag, so there was no point in showing up and they could even vote for a third party candidate to express their disgust.

Free markets works. If Ford was found to have done this they would lose market share. 2 mil is a lot of votes. Not sure what you’re getting at there? As a % he got fewer votes you mean? Every election is different. Trump, someone with zero political experience defeated someone who was the most experienced person of all time per Barack Obama. Something happened...and 63 mil is a ton of votes. And many Trump would be voters in Blue States didn’t bother voting as their votes do not count.

If the country wants to go PC, socialist and Govt controlled then so be it. We will find out in 2020. I support Smaller Govt, free markets, logical thinking about gender and sex, pro Israel policy and revamping our broken healthcare system. Whichever candidate is closest to the aforementioned views will receive my vote and that is my right as an American citizen. I do not understand why you disagree with that view.

 

[JoeB131]

Free markets works. If Ford was found to have done this they would lose market share.

They did lose market share, but that wasn't enough to change their bad behavior, the government had to do that.

Here's the thing. They didn't lose out to a free market company that loves Ayn Rand. They lost out to Japanese and GErman companies, where they have all the socialist, big government stuff you hate, hate, hate.

2 mil is a lot of votes. Not sure what you’re getting at there? As a % he got fewer votes you mean? Every election is different. Trump, someone with zero political experience defeated someone who was the most experienced person of all time per Barack Obama. Something happened...and 63 mil is a ton of votes. And many Trump would be voters in Blue States didn’t bother voting as their votes do not count.

Well, no, it really isn't. It barely reflected growth in the electorate, which is why he got less of a percentage than Romney did.

By the same logic, a lot of Hillary votes in red states didn't bother because they knew their votes wouldn't count. Here's a crazy idea. Let's scrap the electoral college and count everyone's vote!!!!

If the country wants to go PC, socialist and Govt controlled then so be it. We will find out in 2020. I support Smaller Govt, free markets, logical thinking about gender and sex, pro Israel policy and revamping our broken healthcare system. Whichever candidate is closest to the aforementioned views will receive my vote and that is my right as an American citizen. I do not understand why you disagree with that view.

Because your ideas are stupid.

Pro-Israel? Why? Israel isn't our problem.

Same thing with trans... has no effect on your life at all.......other than pandering to your prejudices.

I want a government that looks out for working folks and consumers, not the rich. The rich are going to be fine.

 

[Hellbilly]

Did your crystal ball tell you that?

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Listen asshole.
Last weekend a very dear friend of mine passed away.
I did what I always do and used her picture as my av.
You being the lowlife cocksucker that you are called her hideous then called me a liar.
Call me whatever you want but you start insulting my friends we have an issue.
This is how things are now.
Every time you reply to a post of mine I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.
I’m telling you this because you obviously lack the intelligence to figure it out for yourself.
If you think I’m kidding, wait and see.

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!

Is that clear enough for you to grasp you stupid motherfucker??!


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[AzogtheDefiler]

Free markets works. If Ford was found to have done this they would lose market share.

They did lose market share, but that wasn't enough to change their bad behavior, the government had to do that.

Here's the thing. They didn't lose out to a free market company that loves Ayn Rand. They lost out to Japanese and GErman companies, where they have all the socialist, big government stuff you hate, hate, hate.

2 mil is a lot of votes. Not sure what you’re getting at there? As a % he got fewer votes you mean? Every election is different. Trump, someone with zero political experience defeated someone who was the most experienced person of all time per Barack Obama. Something happened...and 63 mil is a ton of votes. And many Trump would be voters in Blue States didn’t bother voting as their votes do not count.

Well, no, it really isn't. It barely reflected growth in the electorate, which is why he got less of a percentage than Romney did.

By the same logic, a lot of Hillary votes in red states didn't bother because they knew their votes wouldn't count. Here's a crazy idea. Let's scrap the electoral college and count everyone's vote!!!!

If the country wants to go PC, socialist and Govt controlled then so be it. We will find out in 2020. I support Smaller Govt, free markets, logical thinking about gender and sex, pro Israel policy and revamping our broken healthcare system. Whichever candidate is closest to the aforementioned views will receive my vote and that is my right as an American citizen. I do not understand why you disagree with that view.

Because your ideas are stupid.

Pro-Israel? Why? Israel isn't our problem.

Same thing with trans... has no effect on your life at all.......other than pandering to your prejudices.

I want a government that looks out for working folks and consumers, not the rich. The rich are going to be fine.

#1) Loss of market share is still loss of market share. As a public company their BOD would require change, aka safer vehicles. Gov't didn't need to step in.

#2) Getting rid of the EC is fine but you cannot do it overnight as people already began campaigning. Want to do so in 2028? I am perfectly fine with that.

#3) Stupid? Gladly compare resumes. Duke undergrad and NU grad. Work in management consulting and have minority ownership in three MMA gyms. You barely scrape by. Who is stupid? Israel is what keeps most of the radical Islamists at bay. If every mostly Muslim country was not a radicalized mess then it would not matter.

#4) Trans did impact me. I stated that numerous times on this board. Don't care what you do in your private life but when it impacts my kids in athletics, I do care. We all have prejudices. You hate Jews for example as is your right.

#5) I want Gov't that stays the F*CK out of my business. It should be there for roads, bridges and military. Other than that let free markets reign.

Lastly, the fact that you do not believe that I am entitled to my opinion because it is different from yours makes you a terrible Leftist. This is why I am glad you did not reproduce and that you're old so you won't be around much longer.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

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Fuck off.


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Listen asshole.
Last weekend a very dear friend of mine passed away.
I did what I always do and used her picture as my av.
You being the lowlife cocksucker that you are called her hideous then called me a liar.
Call me whatever you want but you start insulting my friends we have an issue.
This is how things are now.
Every time you reply to a post of mine I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.
I’m telling you this because you obviously lack the intelligence to figure it out for yourself.
If you think I’m kidding, wait and see.

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!

Is that clear enough for you to grasp you stupid motherfucker??!


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I'll gladly apologize. Post a link to the obit. Feel free to put me on ignore. Feel free to come to Boston and call me name to my face and see what happens. LOL

Triggered loser.

 

[Hellbilly]

Fuck off.


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Listen asshole.
Last weekend a very dear friend of mine passed away.
I did what I always do and used her picture as my av.
You being the lowlife cocksucker that you are called her hideous then called me a liar.
Call me whatever you want but you start insulting my friends we have an issue.
This is how things are now.
Every time you reply to a post of mine I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.
I’m telling you this because you obviously lack the intelligence to figure it out for yourself.
If you think I’m kidding, wait and see.

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!

Is that clear enough for you to grasp you stupid motherfucker??!


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I'll gladly apologize. Post a link to the obit. Feel free to put me on ignore. Feel free to come to Boston and call me name to my face and see what happens. LOL

Triggered loser.

Go fuck yourself asshole.




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[AzogtheDefiler]

Love you too.

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Listen asshole.
Last weekend a very dear friend of mine passed away.
I did what I always do and used her picture as my av.
You being the lowlife cocksucker that you are called her hideous then called me a liar.
Call me whatever you want but you start insulting my friends we have an issue.
This is how things are now.
Every time you reply to a post of mine I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.
I’m telling you this because you obviously lack the intelligence to figure it out for yourself.
If you think I’m kidding, wait and see.

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!

Is that clear enough for you to grasp you stupid motherfucker??!


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I'll gladly apologize. Post a link to the obit. Feel free to put me on ignore. Feel free to come to Boston and call me name to my face and see what happens. LOL

Triggered loser.

Go fuck yourself asshole.




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That’s what I thought. Lying loser

 

[Hellbilly]

Fuck off, asshole.


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Listen asshole.
Last weekend a very dear friend of mine passed away.
I did what I always do and used her picture as my av.
You being the lowlife cocksucker that you are called her hideous then called me a liar.
Call me whatever you want but you start insulting my friends we have an issue.
This is how things are now.
Every time you reply to a post of mine I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.
I’m telling you this because you obviously lack the intelligence to figure it out for yourself.
If you think I’m kidding, wait and see.

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!

Is that clear enough for you to grasp you stupid motherfucker??!


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I'll gladly apologize. Post a link to the obit. Feel free to put me on ignore. Feel free to come to Boston and call me name to my face and see what happens. LOL

Triggered loser.

Go fuck yourself asshole.




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That’s what I thought. Lying loser

This is how things are now.
Every time you reply to a post of mine I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.

Go fuck yourself.


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[jameny5]

Did your crystal ball tell you that?

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Put that "ugly" thing back on a space craft to outer space. He can better assimilate out there then here in Corrupt States of America![emoji38]

 

[jameny5]

Let's draft John Kasich to run for President or have Mike Bloomberg switch to the Republican party. I as a life long Liberal would cross over and vote for either one of them. Yes - I would!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

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Listen asshole.
Last weekend a very dear friend of mine passed away.
I did what I always do and used her picture as my av.
You being the lowlife cocksucker that you are called her hideous then called me a liar.
Call me whatever you want but you start insulting my friends we have an issue.
This is how things are now.
Every time you reply to a post of mine I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.
I’m telling you this because you obviously lack the intelligence to figure it out for yourself.
If you think I’m kidding, wait and see.

FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!

Is that clear enough for you to grasp you stupid motherfucker??!


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I'll gladly apologize. Post a link to the obit. Feel free to put me on ignore. Feel free to come to Boston and call me name to my face and see what happens. LOL

Triggered loser.

Go fuck yourself asshole.




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That’s what I thought. Lying loser

This is how things are now.
Every time you reply to a post of mine I’m gonna tell you to fuck off.

Go fuck yourself.


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LMaO. I broke Another Leftist. Love it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Let's draft John Kasich to run for President or have Mike Bloomberg switch to the Republican party. I as a life long Liberal would cross over and vote for either one of them. Yes - I would!

Where do you live? Would your vote count?