What if Trump compromised with the democrats to dump Obama care and gave them

[Wyatt earp]

You must be a student of Obama that didn't know how to compromise.
.

Please SHUT THE FUCK UP, as you are clearly clueless.

Obamacare was a REPUBLICAN PLAN, spawned by Heritage foundation as alternative to Clinton's single payer push and blueprinted ROMNEYCARE in Massachusetts, which was touted as big time conservative victory and a model for the rest of the country by the likes of Gingrich....and then Obama signed up for it.

Don't know how to compromise? You are out of your fucking mind.

It doesn't have a thing to do that you embarrassed yourself and don't know how politics works


To funny

 

[Claudette]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the bill and that someone is the taxpayers of America.

I'm not interested in paying for someone's college. I'm not interested in bankrolling anyones life for them.

Free public college? Kinda of an interesting article...


Here's Exactly How Much the Government Would Have to Spend to Make Public College Tuition-Free

How much would free public community college cost?


A mere $62.6 billion dollars!

According to new Department of Education data, that's how much tuition public colleges collected from undergraduates in 2012 across the entire United States. And I'm not being facetious with the word mere, either. The New America Foundationsays that the federal government spent a whole $69 billion in 2013 on its hodgepodge of financial aid programs, such as Pell Grants for low-income students, tax breaks, work study funding. And that doesn't even include loans.

If we were we scrapping our current system and starting from scratch, Washington could make public college tuition free with the money it sets aside its scattershot attempts to make college affordable today.

That's not how it works, that's not how ANY of this works.

Completely unrelated policies cannot be traded that way.

How old are you 22?


That's what Reagan and tippy did all the time... How the fuck do you he think he got Star Wars


If you don't know that basics...a political thread is not for you.

.

Star Wars??? It had little to do with people's everyday lives or ideology.

Reagan traded tipsy higher taxes to get Star Wars..

You really didn't know this do you?


That's how compromise works in politics.

He obviously has no clue about much. Good Lord what a dumbass.

 

[Windship]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the bill and that someone is the taxpayers of America.

I'm not interested in paying for someone's college. I'm not interested in bankrolling anyones life for them.

The problem I have is we really have stupid kids worked with them way to many times in the past 30 years and Germany is kicking our butt in manufacturing with precision.

BECAUSE WE SENT OUR JOBS OFFSHORE!!! WE DONT MANUFACTURE ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE!!!...oh my god...trump voters are just as dumb.
...but YOU take the prize.

If you're serious you're the biggest moron on this board

Hmmm, lemme guess...you went to private schools? You just want to keep people dumb because educating working people are a threat to you.
You want a country full of uneducated people. Tell me, in this private school you speak of, with classrooms of 100...well, its the quality education you want right?...not profit...right? A quality education for all is your main concern, right?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the bill and that someone is the taxpayers of America.

I'm not interested in paying for someone's college. I'm not interested in bankrolling anyones life for them.

The problem I have is we really have stupid kids worked with them way to many times in the past 30 years and Germany is kicking our butt in manufacturing with precision.

BECAUSE WE SENT OUR JOBS OFFSHORE!!! WE DONT MANUFACTURE ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE!!!...oh my god...trump voters are just as dumb.
...but YOU take the prize.

If you're serious you're the biggest moron on this board

Hmmm, lemme guess...you went to private schools? You just want to keep people dumb because educating working people are a threat to you.
You want a country full of uneducated people. Tell me, in this private school you speak of, with classrooms of 100...well, its the quality education you want right?...not profit...right? A quality education for all is your main concern, right?

You're the idiot who said there was no manufacturing left and yet I work at a plastic plant that makes parts for BMW in South Carolina..


BTW.. I am a product of the Chicago union public schools.. Didn't you notice my crappy spelling and grammar?

 

[AntonToo]

You must be a student of Obama that didn't know how to compromise.
.

Please SHUT THE FUCK UP, as you are clearly clueless.

Obamacare was a REPUBLICAN PLAN, spawned by Heritage foundation as alternative to Clinton's single payer push and blueprinted ROMNEYCARE in Massachusetts, which was touted as big time conservative victory and a model for the rest of the country by the likes of Gingrich....and then Obama signed up for it.

Don't know how to compromise? You are out of your fucking mind.

It doesn't have a thing to do that you embarrassed yourself and don't know how politics works


To funny

It has a thing to do with DIRECTLY ADDRESSING WHAT YOU SAID idiot.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the bill and that someone is the taxpayers of America.

I'm not interested in paying for someone's college. I'm not interested in bankrolling anyones life for them.

The problem I have is we really have stupid kids worked with them way to many times in the past 30 years and Germany is kicking our butt in manufacturing with precision.

BECAUSE WE SENT OUR JOBS OFFSHORE!!! WE DONT MANUFACTURE ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE!!!...oh my god...trump voters are just as dumb.
...but YOU take the prize.

If you're serious you're the biggest moron on this board

Hmmm, lemme guess...you went to private schools? You just want to keep people dumb because educating working people are a threat to you.
You want a country full of uneducated people. Tell me, in this private school you speak of, with classrooms of 100...well, its the quality education you want right?...not profit...right? A quality education for all is your main concern, right?

What are you talking about didn't you read my post? I have been working with idiot kids my entire life and that's my concern

Go back sober up and comprehend will ya

 

[Wyatt earp]

You must be a student of Obama that didn't know how to compromise.
.

Please SHUT THE FUCK UP, as you are clearly clueless.

Obamacare was a REPUBLICAN PLAN, spawned by Heritage foundation as alternative to Clinton's single payer push and blueprinted ROMNEYCARE in Massachusetts, which was touted as big time conservative victory and a model for the rest of the country by the likes of Gingrich....and then Obama signed up for it.

Don't know how to compromise? You are out of your fucking mind.

It doesn't have a thing to do that you embarrassed yourself and don't know how politics works


To funny

It has a thing to do with DIRECTLY ADDRESSING WHAT YOU SAID idiot.

You're boring me now and refuse to accept how dumb you are in politics that you don't even know the basics..
Go read a book and learn something will ya

 

[AntonToo]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the bill and that someone is the taxpayers of America.

I'm not interested in paying for someone's college. I'm not interested in bankrolling anyones life for them.

The problem I have is we really have stupid kids worked with them way to many times in the past 30 years and Germany is kicking our butt in manufacturing with precision.

BECAUSE WE SENT OUR JOBS OFFSHORE!!! WE DONT MANUFACTURE ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE!!!...oh my god...trump voters are just as dumb.
...but YOU take the prize.

If you're serious you're the biggest moron on this board

Hmmm, lemme guess...you went to private schools? You just want to keep people dumb because educating working people are a threat to you.
You want a country full of uneducated people. Tell me, in this private school you speak of, with classrooms of 100...well, its the quality education you want right?...not profit...right? A quality education for all is your main concern, right?

What are you talking about didn't you read my post? I have been working with idiot kids my entire life and that's my concern

Go back sober up and comprehend will ya

Retard I am directly quoting you in my response. How is it possible that I didn't read it?

 

[AntonToo]

You're boring me now and refuse to accept how dumb you are in politics

I'm so sorry snowflake to bore you by smashing your ridiculous nonsense with cogent arguments you have no response to.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You must be a student of Obama that didn't know how to compromise.
.

Please SHUT THE FUCK UP, as you are clearly clueless.

Obamacare was a REPUBLICAN PLAN, spawned by Heritage foundation as alternative to Clinton's single payer push and blueprinted ROMNEYCARE in Massachusetts, which was touted as big time conservative victory and a model for the rest of the country by the likes of Gingrich....and then Obama signed up for it.

Don't know how to compromise? You are out of your fucking mind.

It doesn't have a thing to do that you embarrassed yourself and don't know how politics works


To funny

Well since I am in bed sick and you are willing to learn I will give you some history lessons...

 

[Wyatt earp]

The problem I have is we really have stupid kids worked with them way to many times in the past 30 years and Germany is kicking our butt in manufacturing with precision.

BECAUSE WE SENT OUR JOBS OFFSHORE!!! WE DONT MANUFACTURE ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE!!!...oh my god...trump voters are just as dumb.
...but YOU take the prize.

If you're serious you're the biggest moron on this board

Hmmm, lemme guess...you went to private schools? You just want to keep people dumb because educating working people are a threat to you.
You want a country full of uneducated people. Tell me, in this private school you speak of, with classrooms of 100...well, its the quality education you want right?...not profit...right? A quality education for all is your main concern, right?

What are you talking about didn't you read my post? I have been working with idiot kids my entire life and that's my concern

Go back sober up and comprehend will ya

Retard I am directly quoting you in my response. How is it possible that I didn't read it?

Wasn't talking to you idiot

 

[AntonToo]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the bill and that someone is the taxpayers of America.

I'm not interested in paying for someone's college. I'm not interested in bankrolling anyones life for them.

Free public college? Kinda of an interesting article...


Here's Exactly How Much the Government Would Have to Spend to Make Public College Tuition-Free

How much would free public community college cost?


A mere $62.6 billion dollars!

According to new Department of Education data, that's how much tuition public colleges collected from undergraduates in 2012 across the entire United States. And I'm not being facetious with the word mere, either. The New America Foundationsays that the federal government spent a whole $69 billion in 2013 on its hodgepodge of financial aid programs, such as Pell Grants for low-income students, tax breaks, work study funding. And that doesn't even include loans.

If we were we scrapping our current system and starting from scratch, Washington could make public college tuition free with the money it sets aside its scattershot attempts to make college affordable today.

That's not how it works, that's not how ANY of this works.

Completely unrelated policies cannot be traded that way.

How old are you 22?


That's what Reagan and tippy did all the time... How the fuck do you he think he got Star Wars


If you don't know that basics...a political thread is not for you.

.

Star Wars??? It had little to do with people's everyday lives or ideology.

Reagan traded tipsy higher taxes to get Star Wars..

You really didn't know this do you?

That's how compromise works in politics.

In other words the grand compromise with Democrats was more spending and more taxes LOL

I'm sure you will have no problem getting Democrats to sign up for more spending and more taxes today too, by for example getting rid of some tax-cuts for free college.

But undoing ACA and making 20 million people lose insurance? for Free College? Will NEVER EVER even remotely happen. Democrats will get crucified for undoing ACA and Republicans will get smashed by their base in the primaries for unleashing unbearable socialism on the USA.

And the the thing is Republicans DO NOT NEED Democrats to repeal ACA. They can crash it tomorrow with simple majority if they wanted to.

 

[Windship]

Ya know bear?...its people like you, on both sides, that dont understand why things work like they do. You dont bother to understand...you dont try to understand because you very selfish. Maybe your so out of touch that you really do think private education is the answer(if your motives are compassionate). The wealthy get free stuff....all the fucking time...then turn around and try to make the poor feel guilty for getting assistance from the gov. Lmao, and they DO too! Private education will be a river of propaganda to the students...who are there with vouchers... They will be in an atmosphere breeding more and more propaganda from the elite, ...an atmosphere perfect for continued dumbing down. You know...convincing working, blue collar workers that unions are bad for them..."nothings free" fucking bull shit you all sling. And heres the good part..it will all funded by the government...lmao. You didnt think that far ahead, did you? Or maybe you already have. Keep on stickin' it to um and they will come for you. You also, will not teach history in your private school. This is a biggie. When this happens and people finally see what happened, their gonna be real pissed off.

 

[Windship]

Id post some figures comparing welfare to corporate welfare and have many times but you ignore those numbers. Those numbers are good with you. Its the OTHER numbers you dont like.

 

[AntonToo]

BECAUSE WE SENT OUR JOBS OFFSHORE!!! WE DONT MANUFACTURE ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE!!!...oh my god...trump voters are just as dumb.
...but YOU take the prize.

If you're serious you're the biggest moron on this board

Hmmm, lemme guess...you went to private schools? You just want to keep people dumb because educating working people are a threat to you.
You want a country full of uneducated people. Tell me, in this private school you speak of, with classrooms of 100...well, its the quality education you want right?...not profit...right? A quality education for all is your main concern, right?

What are you talking about didn't you read my post? I have been working with idiot kids my entire life and that's my concern

Go back sober up and comprehend will ya

Retard I am directly quoting you in my response. How is it possible that I didn't read it?

Wasn't talking to you idiot

My mistake.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You must be a student of Obama that didn't know how to compromise.
.

Please SHUT THE FUCK UP, as you are clearly clueless.

Obamacare was a REPUBLICAN PLAN, spawned by Heritage foundation as alternative to Clinton's single payer push and blueprinted ROMNEYCARE in Massachusetts, which was touted as big time conservative victory and a model for the rest of the country by the likes of Gingrich....and then Obama signed up for it.

Don't know how to compromise? You are out of your fucking mind.

It doesn't have a thing to do that you embarrassed yourself and don't know how politics works


To funny

Well since I am in bed sick and you are willing to learn I will give you some history lessons...

Did you learn anything?


Here is my second history lesson on compromise

 

[Weatherman2020]

Free public college? Kinda of an interesting article...


Here's Exactly How Much the Government Would Have to Spend to Make Public College Tuition-Free

How much would free public community college cost?


A mere $62.6 billion dollars!

According to new Department of Education data, that's how much tuition public colleges collected from undergraduates in 2012 across the entire United States. And I'm not being facetious with the word mere, either. The New America Foundationsays that the federal government spent a whole $69 billion in 2013 on its hodgepodge of financial aid programs, such as Pell Grants for low-income students, tax breaks, work study funding. And that doesn't even include loans.

If we were we scrapping our current system and starting from scratch, Washington could make public college tuition free with the money it sets aside its scattershot attempts to make college affordable today.

Colleges would just find more ways to raise costs by doubling everyone's salaries and hiring more Directors of Lesbian Diversity type positions.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the bill and that someone is the taxpayers of America.

I'm not interested in paying for someone's college. I'm not interested in bankrolling anyones life for them.

Free public college? Kinda of an interesting article...


Here's Exactly How Much the Government Would Have to Spend to Make Public College Tuition-Free

How much would free public community college cost?


A mere $62.6 billion dollars!

According to new Department of Education data, that's how much tuition public colleges collected from undergraduates in 2012 across the entire United States. And I'm not being facetious with the word mere, either. The New America Foundationsays that the federal government spent a whole $69 billion in 2013 on its hodgepodge of financial aid programs, such as Pell Grants for low-income students, tax breaks, work study funding. And that doesn't even include loans.

If we were we scrapping our current system and starting from scratch, Washington could make public college tuition free with the money it sets aside its scattershot attempts to make college affordable today.

That's not how it works, that's not how ANY of this works.

Completely unrelated policies cannot be traded that way.

How old are you 22?


That's what Reagan and tippy did all the time... How the fuck do you he think he got Star Wars


If you don't know that basics...a political thread is not for you.

.

Star Wars??? It had little to do with people's everyday lives or ideology.

Reagan traded tipsy higher taxes to get Star Wars..

You really didn't know this do you?

That's how compromise works in politics.

In other words the grand compromise with Democrats was more spending and more taxes LOL

I'm sure you will have no problem getting Democrats to sign up for more spending and more taxes today too, by for example getting rid of some tax-cuts for free college.

But undoing ACA and making 20 million people lose insurance? for Free College? Will NEVER EVER even remotely happen. Democrats will get crucified for undoing ACA and Republicans will get smashed by their base in the primaries for unleashing unbearable socialism on the USA.

And the the thing is Republicans DO NOT NEED Democrats to repeal ACA. They can crash it tomorrow with simple majority if they wanted to.

Maybe those were to hard for you...

 

[Dragonlady]

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay the bill and that someone is the taxpayers of America.

I'm not interested in paying for someone's college. I'm not interested in bankrolling anyones life for them.

Short-sighted, selfish, and not well thought out.

Free education is what made the United States the most successful country in the world. You had the BEST public education system in the world, and Republicans destroyed it.

You starved the system of cash so that poor kids get such a substandard level of education they have little hope of getting out of poverty. You pay your teachers so poorly, they can barely survive on teacher's wages, and good people can ill afford to pay back student loans and provide for their families, so the best people can't really afford to go into the profession.

But the best of it is you blame teachers for turning our "liberals". The history of the world is liberals pushing change, and overcoming conservative resistance. Republican states set the cirriculum and what's being taught, but citizens blame teachers unions for the problem.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Free public college? Kinda of an interesting article...


Here's Exactly How Much the Government Would Have to Spend to Make Public College Tuition-Free

How much would free public community college cost?


A mere $62.6 billion dollars!

According to new Department of Education data, that's how much tuition public colleges collected from undergraduates in 2012 across the entire United States. And I'm not being facetious with the word mere, either. The New America Foundationsays that the federal government spent a whole $69 billion in 2013 on its hodgepodge of financial aid programs, such as Pell Grants for low-income students, tax breaks, work study funding. And that doesn't even include loans.

If we were we scrapping our current system and starting from scratch, Washington could make public college tuition free with the money it sets aside its scattershot attempts to make college affordable today.

many developed nations have universal education for all its' citizens some of them even pay their students a basic income while they go to school in addition to free college.

1. Brazil: Brazil’s universities charge registration fees, Noack notes, but they do not require regular tuition. Many of them also offer courses in English.

2. Germany: Germany has 900 programs in English, and is eager to attract foreign students to tuition-free universities due to the country’s shortage of skilled workers.

3. Finland: Finland doesn’t have tuition fees but the government does warn foreigners that they have to cover living expenses. Imagine going to college and only worrying about room and board.



4. France: France does charge tuition – but normally around 200 dollars at public universities. A far cry from what you’d pay in the United States, even in a state school.

5. Norway: Norwegian students, including foreigners studying in the country, do not have to pay any college tuition. Be forewarned, however, of the harsh winters and high cost of living.

6. Slovenia: If Eastern Europe is more your thing, Noack notes that Slovenia has 150 English-language programs, and only charges a registration fee – no tuition.

7. Sweden: Sweden, a country which has so successfully solved so many of its social problems that there are now U.S. Sitcoms about the glories of moving there, has over 300 English-language programs. Although college there is free, cost of living may be pricey for foreigners.

7 countries where college is free

the problem isn't that it doesn't work or isn't affodable or it isn't "worth the investment" its that America is an extremely racist country and they dont want blacks Hispanics naitve americans etc to be educated in the first place they want them to be dumb as rocks and have a class of educated wealthy white people in charge of them. The best way to ensure that is too abolish public schools which is a centuries long goal of the KKK and currently fought for goal in the republican party which has virtually become the political wing of the KKK. Just as they didn't want slaves to learn to read and write they dont want black and brown people today learning to either except they can't chop off their hands anymore like they used too.

Here education system is free and public. Some schools are ruled by the State, other established by the State and ruled by private people (they have a permission from the State) and other schools are totally private but they also have permission from the State. You have to pay for the last ones. The other two are free. Speaking of Universities as far as I know they're all public, you don't have to pay (but some want to make new laws to allow private Universities)

Your educations system while really good, would not work here.
For example, you have you have the High Schools for the gifted, that require high entrance exam scores, the same with the universities, they are also determined by the High School graduation exam. The higher the score, the better the university that one can go to.
Now dont get me wrong, I think its a really great way to do it, those that study hardest are the ones that are being "groomed" for positions that will benefit your society the most. The more potential benefit from a student, the more money spent nurturing their education. As it should be.
Here in the U.S it wont work. We would not be able to place students in Universities, or Colleges based on their score and desire to learn. It might start out that way, but in the end it would be determined that we have too many whites being sent to the schools that are regarded as more prestigious. So what would happen is that entrance would be based on grades, but we would also have to include race, economic standing of the family etc...
We would end up having some students with outstanding exam grades denied access to a school that they qualified for, so that someone with lower exam grades but the right ethnic background could take the place.
If we did it the exact same way that you did, placement by grades would end up being considered racist, using the test scores only would be considered racist and would only be used in order to disenfranchise a certain racial group.
In reality there could be no placement exam, it would be based on minority status.
They way its done where you are is great, it makes sure the brightest minds are the one that be given the best options and your countries literacy level will be higher,
The U.S would be based on the amount of melatonin you have in your skin and because of that the brightest minds will not be the ones nurtured, our countries literacy level will end up being lower.