What if we lived and died by every word in the original Constitution? Are we better?

[BrokeLoser]

So none of this would apply? Amendments 11-27, FYI

Amendment 11 - Authority of Federal Courts Restricted
(Ratified February 7, 1795)

The judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit, in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by citizens of another state, or by citizens or subjects of any foreign state.

Amendment 12 - Election of the President and Vice President
(Ratified June 15, 1804)

1. The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President and of all persons voted for as Vice President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the president of the Senate. The president of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes for President shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers, not exceeding three, on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.]amd
   
   
2. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice President shall be the Vice President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States.

Amendment 13 - Slavery Outlawed
(Ratified December 6, 1865)

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
   
   
2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Amendment 14 - Rights of Citizenship
(Ratified July 9, 1868)

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
   
   
2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, [excluding Indians not taxed]amd. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged except for participation in rebellion or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
   
   
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellionagainst the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each house, remove such disability.
   
   
4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensionsand bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations, and claims shall be heldillegal and void.
   
   
5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Amendment 15 - Voting Rights for All Races
(Ratified February 3, 1870)

1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race,color, or previous condition of servitude.
   
   
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Amendment 16 - Federal Income Taxes
(Ratified February 3, 1913)

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionmentamong the several states and without regard to any census or enumeration.
Amendment 17 - Election of Senators by Popular Vote
(Ratified April 8, 1913)

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the state legislatures.

When vacancies happen in the representation of any state in the Senate, the executive authority of such state shall issuewrits of election to fill such vacancies, provided that the legislature of any state may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution.

Amendment 18 - Liquor Outlawed
(Ratified January 16, 1919)

1. [After one year from the ratification of this article, the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquorswithin, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited.
   
   
2. The Congress and the several states shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
   
   
3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislaturesof the several states, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the states by the Congress.]amd

Amendment 19 - Voting Rights for Men and Women
(Ratified August 18, 1920)

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Amendment 20 - Terms of the President and Congress; Replacing the President
(Ratified January 23, 1933)

1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the twentieth day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the third day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin.
   
   
2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the third day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day.
   
   
3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died, the Vice President-elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President-elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President-elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President-elect nor a Vice President-elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
   
   
4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.
   
   
5. Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the fifteenth day of October following the ratification of this article.
   
   
6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three- fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission.

Amendment 21 - Control of Liquor Returned to the States
(Ratified December 5, 1933)

1. The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
   
   
2. The transportation or importation into any state, territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use thereinof intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited.
   
   
3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several states, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the states by the Congress.

Amendment 22 - Presidents Limited to Two Terms
(Ratified February 27, 1951)

1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
   
   
2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three- fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.

Amendment 23 - Presidential Electors for the District of Columbia
(Ratified March 29, 1961)

1. The district constituting the seat of government of the United States shall appoint, in such manner as the Congress may direct, a number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of Senators and Representativesin Congress to which the district would be entitled if it were a state, but in no event more than the least populous state; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the states, but they shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice President, to be electors appointed by a state; and they shall meet in the district and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of amendment.
   
   
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Amendment 24 - Voting Rights Protected from Taxes
(Ratified January 23, 1964)

1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any state by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
   
   
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Amendment 25 - Replacing the President and Vice President
(Ratified February 10, 1967)

1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
   
   
2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President, who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both houses of Congress.
   
   
3. Whenever the President transmits to the president pro tempore of the Senate and the speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as acting President.
   
   
4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments, or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the president pro tempore of the Senate and the speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as acting President. Thereafter, when the President transmits to the president pro tempore of the Senate and the speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department, or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the president pro tempore of the Senate and the speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Amendment 26 - Voting Rights for All Citizens Eighteen or Older
(Ratified July 1, 1971)

1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridgedby the United States or by any state on account of age.
   
   
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Amendment 27 - Changes in Salaries of Senators and Representatives
(Ratified May 7, 1992)

No law varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives shall take effect until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

Yup.

What ones in particular and why?

People like BL and Vas do not like the idea that women can vote and they are not allowed to own other human beings.

The incorporation of those things doesn’t make up for the absolute destruction of this country and the west at large, sorry.

The country is not destroyed, even out west. Such hyperbole does not help the discussion.

How do you define “destroyed”?
Have you ever been to Los Angeles?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yup.

What ones in particular and why?

People like BL and Vas do not like the idea that women can vote and they are not allowed to own other human beings.

The incorporation of those things doesn’t make up for the absolute destruction of this country and the west at large, sorry.

The country is not destroyed, even out west. Such hyperbole does not help the discussion.

How do you define “destroyed”?
Have you ever been to Los Angeles?

It has been a few years, but it does not look destroyed...

 

[BrokeLoser]

What do you mean when you claim an, "absolute destruction of this country and the west at large"?

that is code for too many brown and black people.

A guestion you don’t have have the courage to answer...ready?
Do black and brown people keep their communities and homes nice and clean?
Where there is black and brown people there is criminal activity, graffiti, trash and overall filth...Why do you think that is? Because they are awesome human beings?

 

[harmonica]

it was written in very, very different times---very long ago
...it is like GUIDEbooks---to GUIDE ....
...a lot of organizations/schools/colleges/etc have guide books--because they can NEVER have every situation/etc covered

..you see this in laws of today---judges/lawyers/juries rule on MANY different situations dealing with very specific laws ......

 

[BrokeLoser]

What ones in particular and why?

People like BL and Vas do not like the idea that women can vote and they are not allowed to own other human beings.

The incorporation of those things doesn’t make up for the absolute destruction of this country and the west at large, sorry.

The country is not destroyed, even out west. Such hyperbole does not help the discussion.

How do you define “destroyed”?
Have you ever been to Los Angeles?

It has been a few years, but it does not look destroyed...

Weird, I bet Somalia looks nice from 10,000 feet above. Come on man, don’t pull that ignorant shit, you’re smarter than that.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What do you mean when you claim an, "absolute destruction of this country and the west at large"?

that is code for too many brown and black people.

A guestion you don’t have have the courage to answer...ready?
Do black and brown people keep their communities and homes nice and clean?
Where there is black and brown people there is criminal activity, graffiti, trash and overall filth...Why do you think that is? Because they are awesome human beings?

There are brown and black people in my community, none of that is happening. I have a black dude for a neighbor, he is often recognized by the city for his amazing lawn.

 

[Vastator]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

 

[BrokeLoser]

What do you mean when you claim an, "absolute destruction of this country and the west at large"?

that is code for too many brown and black people.

A guestion you don’t have have the courage to answer...ready?
Do black and brown people keep their communities and homes nice and clean?
Where there is black and brown people there is criminal activity, graffiti, trash and overall filth...Why do you think that is? Because they are awesome human beings?

There are brown and black people in my community, none of that is happening. I have a black dude for a neighbor, he is often recognized by the city for his amazing lawn.

Well, unfortunately, for him....in the real world, outside of LibTardia we don’t allow the two percentile to define the other ninety eight percent. We leave that ignorant shit to the scared fools.

 

[Wry Catcher]

What do you mean when you claim an, "absolute destruction of this country and the west at large"?

that is code for too many brown and black people.

Agreed, and too many gays and lesbians, too many Muslims, agnostics and atheists, and especially too many educated people and scientists.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

living and dying by every word in the original Constitution means humans owning other humans. You are the one that wants to get back to that.

Women being seen as something more than property of the husband would not have happened. Equal rights for women would not have happened. Husbands would still be legally able to rape their wives.

 

[22lcidw]

The 16th and 17th amendments along with the Federal Reserve Act opened the flood gates to politicians who promise the goodies. That can be enticing to most people and you see it today. We all have our opinions and I believe our nation can not last in this fashion. The taxes are massive and we deny it. In the past the government took control of questionable situations and handled it. Today, everything is turned into agendas.

blaming it on the amendments is like blaming a gun when someone gets shot. We have what we have today because we the people allow it. We have two parties and neither stand for fiscal responsibility. Both sides have their flavor of "socialism" they approve of.

We are not over taxed in this country and our taxes are far from massive.

The taxes are that. There are thousands of them nickel and diming us. A tax cut is mostly federal taxes. Most of the products made in our nation are taxed at about 20% or so from the most basic level to its last level of completion. As for its origins from overseas I do not know but it is not so different in taxation as cost of the product from the original nation. Then add the 15% of social security and medicare. Then add the federal tax. Then add the sales taxes. Then add the taxes, fines and fees of state, local, regional and city governments. Then add the taxes to home ownership and taxes in your renting. Then add taxes in going to a motel, a cruise, a vacation somewhere. Then add the extra costs of the ADA in everything we do. Then add the donations of the companies to those less fortunate and figure out who pays for it. Then add the extra costs from those who steal. Then add taxes in gasoline, licenses and registration fees. Then add the taxes in all cable, electricity, water, natural gas and other comforts for us to live with. There are more and I had a book on it at one time. So many more.

 

[Vastator]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

living and dying by every word in the original Constitution means humans owning other humans. You are the one that wants to get back to that.

Women being seen as something more than property of the husband would not have happened. Equal rights for women would not have happened. Husbands would still be legally able to rape their wives.

Your inference is every bit as ignorant, and poorly thought out; as claiming that “living by every word” would also mean going back to riding horse, and carriage only. Just because that’s what they happened to be doing at the time... What’s more the constitution ended the importation of additional slaves. So, seeing as we have none now, we wouldn’t have any in the future either, especially considering that the issue in great part was left to the states. All of which would swiftly move to abolish slavery of their own accord. In this modern age slavery is a is woefully inadequate form of governance, and capital generation.

As for the “Women’s vote” spare me the feels. Name an accomplishment that moved the nation forward, and put us in a stronger global position. Production? Capital? Power..?Otherwise; I’m not interested...
Besides. It wasn’t only “women” who weren’t granted the power of the vote.

 

[OldLady]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

Wow. You really do hate women! We just got done talking in the thread where you opposed the Violence Against Women Act because women who get the shaft on a date are always crying rape or abuse and getting the guy arrested.
And now you think the country is in worse shape because they can VOTE?

I don't know what your story is, but I just gotta tell you, not all women are that bad.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

Wow. You really do hate women! We just got done talking in the thread where you opposed the Violence Against Women Act because women who get the shaft on a date are always crying rape or abuse and getting the guy arrested.
And now you think the country is in worse shape because they can VOTE?

I don't know what your story is, but I just gotta tell you, not all women are that bad.

I wonder what percentage of women envy the old days when their lives were simple...when they exhausted all effort and energy in raising the children and taking care of the home. Back when they didn’t HAVE to work to make ends meet, back when they didn’t have to follow politics and cast a vote....Hmmmm?
I’m so used to Lefties telling me how women feel...I wonder if that’s how they really feel?

 

[whitehall]

The Founding Fathers were geniuses who created a system of government by the people never before seen in human history. We used to appreciate it but generations of liberal idiots have turned the FF into cartoon characters. What if there was no Constitution? There would be no democracy and no United States.

 

[initforme]

A growing number of women are figuring out they don't need to stay home and take care of the house. They have chosen to get educated and go out and earn a wage that permits them to buy things they want and travel or pursue other hobbies. Explain how this might be a bad thing. It's a huge step in the right direction in the greatest nation on Earth. If you want to work and have things then that's great. If you want to stay home that's good too. The great thing is the choice and freedom. It's s win win for everyone.

 

[Mr Natural]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

Wow. You really do hate women! We just got done talking in the thread where you opposed the Violence Against Women Act because women who get the shaft on a date are always crying rape or abuse and getting the guy arrested.
And now you think the country is in worse shape because they can VOTE?

I don't know what your story is, but I just gotta tell you, not all women are that bad.

I wonder what percentage of women envy the old days when their lives were simple...when they exhausted all effort and energy in raising the children and taking care of the home. Back when they didn’t HAVE to work to make ends meet, back when they didn’t have to follow politics and cast a vote....Hmmmm?
I’m so used to Lefties telling me how women feel...I wonder if that’s how they really feel?

Yeah, back in the day when they understood a good crack in the mouth when they got out of line or disobeyed the old man.

 

[Vastator]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

Wow. You really do hate women! We just got done talking in the thread where you opposed the Violence Against Women Act because women who get the shaft on a date are always crying rape or abuse and getting the guy arrested.
And now you think the country is in worse shape because they can VOTE?

I don't know what your story is, but I just gotta tell you, not all women are that bad.

I never said that. I asked for someone to demonstrate the assertion, that as a nation we are wealthier, stronger, or somehow intrinsically better for it. And again for the cheap seats... “It wasn’t just women who weren’t given the power of the vote”. Stick to what I’ve actually said. Now... Do you care to take a crack at it?

 

[Vastator]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

Wow. You really do hate women! We just got done talking in the thread where you opposed the Violence Against Women Act because women who get the shaft on a date are always crying rape or abuse and getting the guy arrested.
And now you think the country is in worse shape because they can VOTE?

I don't know what your story is, but I just gotta tell you, not all women are that bad.

I never said that. I asked for someone to demonstrate the assertion, that as a nation we are wealthier, stronger, or somehow intrinsically better for it. And again for the cheap seats... “It wasn’t just women who weren’t given the power of the vote”. Stick to what I’ve actually said. Now... Do you care to take a crack at it?

I didn’t think so. You never do...

 

[Vastator]

I've yet to see the demonstration, or argument; as to just what improvement to the nation, or the West; the women's vote has garnered... Don't reckon 'll see see it anytime soon either...

the fact you need someone to explain to you why we are better with women having an equal voice and not being able to own other human beings is all that anyone needs to know about you.

if those things needs to be explained to you, you will never be able to understand them.

So far you're the only one blabbing about owning humans. And to that end; I'll leave you to it.
Care take a crack a explaining how our country is better off today, with having women vote? Specifically by telling us what we would not have accomplished otherwise? Take your your time. I'll wait...

Wow. You really do hate women! We just got done talking in the thread where you opposed the Violence Against Women Act because women who get the shaft on a date are always crying rape or abuse and getting the guy arrested.
And now you think the country is in worse shape because they can VOTE?

I don't know what your story is, but I just gotta tell you, not all women are that bad.