What is the Crime???

[BackAgain]

I bet this won't get an answer... its unbelievable that these people think its okay to prosecute a former president on such a vague offense... even MSNBC can't tell us what the crime is....

Correct. The ignorant drooling libturds contend (falsely) that he did so in the People’s Bill of Particulars

In relevant part, here is that reply from the Persecution:

The underlying crime “may” include one of ability of crimes, suggests the persecutor.

Then again. Maybe not. And without specifying what that alleged underlying crime “was,” which Trump supposedly had the intent to commit or conceal, the jury will be left to guess and speculate. And their verdict might not be unanimous. (A non-unanimous verdict would properly be the basis for reversing any conviction.)

This case is all about prosecutorial political partisanship. It is a lawless thing.

 

[The Duke]

How do you not know the crime by now?

He hide payments made to silence Stormy Daniels via a NDA violating business filing and election laws

So when Biden did that it was what?

How about when Clinton did it?

PS: That was NOT a NY election, it was a federal election nationwide.

What gives the NY government the right to meddle in nationwide elections for all the other 49 states too?

 

[rightwinger]

What did Trump do to warrant a jury trial that is costing New Yorkers millions at a time NY can't afford to spend it.... If people are asking today... what is the crime... and the defendant is a former US president for Gods sake....
This is going to do real harm to the democrat party....

Now if you would like to try and tell us what the CRIME is please use this thread...

Ask the Grand Jury
They indicted him

 

[BackAgain]

How do you not know the crime by now?

He hide payments made to silence Stormy Daniels via a NDA violating business filing and election laws

Not according to the persecutors who won’t even say that much.

He don’t “hide” anything, anyway. He recorded his payment of the scumbag Cohen’s legal fee. Paying the Ho for an NDA would be legal. NDA’s are legal.

The allegedly false filing would be a misdemeanor and beyond the stature of limitations. So your answer is wrong in any event.

The actual question is what “other” crime he intended to commit or conceal. And since he paid after the election, it couldn’t possibly have been done to violate the election laws.

Try again.

 

[Slade3200]

So when Biden did that it was what?

Dunno… bring it to court and make your case

 

[excalibur]

What did Trump do to warrant a jury trial that is costing New Yorkers millions at a time NY can't afford to spend it.... If people are asking today... what is the crime... and the defendant is a former US president for Gods sake....
This is going to do real harm to the democrat party....

Now if you would like to try and tell us what the CRIME is please use this thread...

In fact, the judge(!) read a statement from the FEC, after defense counsel raised Cohen's run-in with that agency. And the judge told the jury that there was no Federal violation of election law by anyone.

So, where's Bragg's alleged nexus to federal law now?

Seems as if the judge [inadvertently] helped Trump.

 

[excalibur]

Not according to the persecutors who won’t even say that much.

He don’t “hide” anything, anyway. He recorded his payment of the scumbag Cohen’s legal fee. Paying the Ho for an NDA would be legal. NDA’s are legal.

The allegedly false filing would be a misdemeanor and beyond the stature of limitations. So your answer is wrong in any event.

The actual question is what “other” crime he intended to commit or conceal. And since he paid after the election, it couldn’t possibly have been done to violate the election laws.

Try again.

Yeah, Øbama and Hillary, fines.

Obama Campaign Fined Big for Hiding Donors, Keeping Illegal Donations

Clinton campaign, DNC fined by FEC for lying about Steele dossier payments

The Clinton campaign and the DNC will be forced to pay $8,000 and $105,000 respectively for mislabeling payments that ultimately went to Fusion GPS.

nypost.com

 

[Slade3200]

Not according to the persecutors who won’t even say that much.

He don’t “hide” anything, anyway. He recorded his payment of the scumbag Cohen’s legal fee. Paying the Ho for an NDA would be legal. NDA’s are legal.

The allegedly false filing would be a misdemeanor and beyond the stature of limitations. So your answer is wrong in any event.

The actual question is what “other” crime he intended to commit or conceal. And since he paid after the election, it couldn’t possibly have been done to violate the election laws.

Try again.

He hid the payment by having Cohen make it to stormy prior to the election and then hiding the payback via 11 installments dressed up as retainer payments paid back to Cohen over the course of the following year

 

[BackAgain]

Ask the Grand Jury
They indicted him

Stupid.

The fact is that if they had gotten proper legal instructions from the Bragg persecutor in the GJ, maybe they wouldn’t have indicted. And the judge should have granted the defense motion to dismiss the indictment for the improper grand jury presentment and the legal deficiencies of the ensuing indictment.

No. The answer (obviously) is not to “ask” the now excused grand jurors.

The answer ought to be provided by the fucking persecution.

 

[The Duke]

He hid the payment by having Cohen make it to stormy prior to the election and then hiding the payback via 11 installments dressed up as retainer payments paid back to Cohen over the course of the following year

Oh wow! Stop the presses!

What makes a NY DA have jurisdiction over something like that and not the FEC?

Especially when it regards a national election. The FEC declined to prosecute.

 

[BackAgain]

He hid the payment by having Cohen make it to stormy prior to the election

According to the most singularly unreliable source ever called by any public persecutor. Not that he would lie under oath. Ahem.

and then hiding the payback via 11 installments dressed up as retainer payments paid back to Cohen over the course of the following year

Again, you say that as if you know. But you don’t. You necessarily rely on the word of the convicted perjurer.

Not clever of you.

 

[mamooth]

One wonders why Trump hasn't hired these legal masterminds for his defense.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Hellokitty]

How do you not know the crime by now?

He hide payments made to silence Stormy Daniels via a NDA violating business filing and election laws

Wrong.

 

[excalibur]

Correct. The ignorant drooling libturds contend (falsely) that he did so in the People’s Bill of Particulars

In relevant part, here is that reply from the Persecution:

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The underlying crime “may” include one of ability of crimes, suggests the persecutor.

Then again. Maybe not. And without specifying what that alleged underlying crime “was,” which Trump supposedly had the intent to commit or conceal, the jury will be left to guess and speculate. And their verdict might not be unanimous. (A non-unanimous verdict would properly be the basis for reversing any conviction.)

This case is all about prosecutorial political partisanship. It is a lawless thing.

Right, because 'People v. Mackey' was about a burglary charge, which is a long known criminal act that when you illegally enter an abode you are presumed to be there to burgle the premises.

 

[BackAgain]

One wonders why Trump hasn't hired these legal masterminds for his defense.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Zzz

One wonders what manboobs, the cackling imbecile, is laughing about. It said nothing funny or even slightly intelligent.

 

[Slade3200]

Oh wow! Stop the presses!

What makes a NY DA have jurisdiction over something like that and not the FEC?

Especially when it regards a national election. The FEC declined to prosecute.

Hey, you all were playing dumb like you didn't know what the crime was. I just told you. We can see the jurisdiction and legal code stuff play out in court... Hope I helped

 

[Slade3200]

According to the most singularly unreliable source ever called by any public persecutor. Not that he would lie under oath. Ahem.

Whether you believe the source or evidence is irrelevant. Thats what gets sorted out during the trial. Y'all were pretending like there was no crime. I was simply telling you what the crime was... and a bit shocked that after all this time y'all didn't even know what it was. Thats kinda sad

 

[BackAgain]

Dunno… bring it to court and make your case

Another insipid and non-responsive comment from a lib.

 

[Slade3200]

Again, you say that as if you know. But you don’t. You necessarily rely on the word of the convicted perjurer.

Not clever of you.

I'm telling you the case the prosecution is making and the crimes he is being prosecuted for. If the evidence bores out then thats what trump will be convicted of.

 

[Slade3200]

Wrong.

Hmmm, well after carefully considering your counter argument I'm gonna have to objectively say that my argument wins the debate. Happy to give you another chance to counter if you want.