What is the Deep State?

[gipper]

I find it rather instructive that many on the Left dispute that it even exists. They think this way because the DNCMSM has told them it doesn’t exist, which is most convenient for their cause. Adherents of the MSM apparently can’t see the transparent effort to deceive them. It is not only instructive of the success of the DNCMSM to deceive some Americans for the benefit of their bosses, it is also rather amusing that some Americans can’t see the elephant in the room. They must be blind on purpose.

Doug Casey spells it out...please read the entire column.

Doug Casey: The Deep State Is the Source of Our Economic Problems

Who Is Part of the Deep State?

The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

The Deep State has a life of its own, like the government itself. It’s composed of top-echelon employees of a dozen Praetorian agencies, like the FBI, CIA, and NSA… top generals, admirals, and other military operatives… long-term congressmen and senators… and directors of important regulatory agencies.

But the Deep State is much broader than just the government. It includes the heads of major corporations, all of whom are heavily involved in selling to the State and enabling it. That absolutely includes Silicon Valley, although those guys at least have a sense of humor, evidenced by their “Don’t Be Evil” motto. It also includes all the top people in the Fed, and the heads of all the major banks, brokers, and insurers. Add the presidents and many professors at top universities, which act as Deep State recruiting centers… all the top media figures, of course… and many regulars at things like Bohemian Grove and the Council on Foreign Relations. They epitomize the status quo, held together by power, money, and propaganda.

Altogether, I’ll guess these people number a thousand or so. You might analogize the structure of the Deep State with a huge pack of dogs. The people I’ve just described are the top dogs.

But there are hundreds of thousands more who aren’t at the nexus, but who directly depend on them, have considerable clout, and support the Deep State because it supports them. This includes many of the wealthy, especially those who got that way thanks to their State connections… the 1.5 million people who have top secret clearances (that’s a shocking, but accurate, number)… plus top players in organized crime, especially the illegal drug business, little of which would exist without the State. Plus mid-level types in the police and military, corporations, and non-governmental organizations.

These are what you might call the running dogs.

https://www.caseyresearch.com/artic...state-is-the-source-of-our-economic-problems/

 

[Taz]

So the people running our country are responsible for our economic woes. Like... no kidding.

 

[gipper]

Casey just keeps exposing it...outstanding column.

The Deep State is an extremely powerful network that controls nearly everything around you. You won’t read about it in the news because it controls the news. Politicians won’t talk about it publicly. That would be like a mobster discussing murder and robbery on the 6 o’clock news. You could say the Deep State is hidden, but it’s only hidden in plain sight.

The Deep State is the source of every negative thing that’s happening right now. To survive the coming rough times, it’s essential for you to know what it’s all about.

 

[gipper]

Oh my God, Casey just keeps nailing it...

A key takeaway, and I emphasize that because I expect it to otherwise bounce off the programmed psyches of most people, is that the very idea of the State itself is poisonous, evil, and intrinsically destructive. But, like so many bad ideas, people have come to assume it’s part of the cosmic firmament, when it’s really just a monstrous scam. It’s a fraud, like your belief that you have a right to free speech because of the First Amendment, or a right to be armed because of the Second Amendment. No, you don’t. The U.S. Constitution is just an arbitrary piece of paper… entirely apart from the fact the whole thing is now just a dead letter. You have a right to free speech and to be armed because they’re necessary parts of being a free person, not because of what a political document says.

Even though the essence of the State is coercion, people have been taught to love and respect it. Most people think of the State in the quaint light of a grade school civics book. They think it has something to do with “We the People” electing a Jimmy Stewart character to represent them. That ideal has always been a pernicious fiction, because it idealizes, sanitizes, and legitimizes an intrinsically evil and destructive institution, which is based on force. As Mao once said, political power comes out of the barrel of a gun. But things have gone far beyond that. We’re now in the Deep State.

 

[gipper]

So the people running our country are responsible for our economic woes. Like... no kidding.

LOL. Really?

 

[beautress]

So the people running our country are responsible for our economic woes. Like... no kidding.

Well, George Soros, supreme leftist in the USA, did his best to destroy Great Britain's economy 10 years ago by switching his funds around to hurt them. His fluffers--Obama insults the Royal Family. I guess it's best for him to help the Democrats do to America what he may like to do, considering his power and who he fluffs back.

There seems to be something in it for him if he can get the Democrats to wreck America too.

What a creepy world the elite are, trying to do away with the American founders, having the Democrats control the world using criminals like John Dean to destroy President Trump and in general, the America our fathers gave us. The Democrats will stop at nothing to destroy the American people's faith in government by pretending everything that happens is bad, the military is bad, the Republicans are bad, the Republican President is bad: Bad, bad, bad.

 

[gipper]

Well, George Soros, supreme leftist in the USA, did his best to destroy Great Britain's economy 10 years ago by switching his funds around to hurt them. His fluffers--Obama insults the Royal Family. I guess it's best for him to help the Democrats do to America what he may like to do, considering his power and who he fluffs back.

There seems to be something in it for him if he can get the Democrats to wreck America too.

What a creepy world the elite are, trying to do away with the American founders, having the Democrats control the world using criminals like John Dean to destroy President Trump and in general, the America our fathers gave us. The Democrats will stop at nothing to destroy the American people's faith in government by pretending everything that happens is bad, the military is bad, the Republicans are bad, the Republican President is bad: Bad, bad, bad.

The Ds are part of the problem, just as the Rs are. I doubt very much Donnie is our savior. It is more likely he is just playing his part as directed by higher powers, the Deep State.

 

[beautress]

Trey Gowdy points out that John Dean is not a fact witness, and he is not a legal witness.

Trey Gowdy: John Dean is not a fact witness or legal expert

 

[rightwinger]

Casey just keeps exposing it...outstanding column.

The Deep State is an extremely powerful network that controls nearly everything around you. You won’t read about it in the news because it controls the news. Politicians won’t talk about it publicly. That would be like a mobster discussing murder and robbery on the 6 o’clock news. You could say the Deep State is hidden, but it’s only hidden in plain sight.

The Deep State is the source of every negative thing that’s happening right now. To survive the coming rough times, it’s essential for you to know what it’s all about.

On one hand you claim the Deep State is an extremely powerful network and yet, Doug Casey claims ......The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

So what is it?

A bunch of people operating with their own goals or a powerful network with leadership, an objective and command structure?

I look at Deep State as just a rehash of the NWO paranoia for conspiracy theorists?

 

[Nosmo King]

Every cynic needs an enemy.

 

[beautress]

Well, George Soros, supreme leftist in the USA, did his best to destroy Great Britain's economy 10 years ago by switching his funds around to hurt them. His fluffers--Obama insults the Royal Family. I guess it's best for him to help the Democrats do to America what he may like to do, considering his power and who he fluffs back.

There seems to be something in it for him if he can get the Democrats to wreck America too.

What a creepy world the elite are, trying to do away with the American founders, having the Democrats control the world using criminals like John Dean to destroy President Trump and in general, the America our fathers gave us. The Democrats will stop at nothing to destroy the American people's faith in government by pretending everything that happens is bad, the military is bad, the Republicans are bad, the Republican President is bad: Bad, bad, bad.

The Ds are part of the problem, just as the Rs are. I doubt very much Donnie is our savior. It is more likely he is just playing his part as directed by higher powers, the Deep State.

That has crossed my mind, but other things are going on with a demented Pelosi, a pathetic, attack dog like Jerry Nadler, and a chorus of hate-Trump Congresswomen throwing loose cannons balls around in the media who consider themselves 24-hour-a-day Saturday Night Live missionaries to destroy their political opponenets.

Nadler is holding William Barr in Contempt for refusing to break the law and declassify information that is against the law to divulge. And people are letting him get away with it. the DNC marionettes in the FBI are their best weaponized destroyers of the Trump administration.

There is nothing sensible about the Democrats. We need to get rid of their irresponsible approach to using lies and crazymaker speech darts to determine what the law will be. The Democrats and their George Soros backers need to be sent back home and replace them with people who refuse to lie about state matters. Their lies are way out of control.

 

[Care4all]

I find it rather instructive that many on the Left dispute that it even exists. They think this way because the DNCMSM has told them it doesn’t exist, which is most convenient for their cause. Adherents of the MSM apparently can’t see the transparent effort to deceive them. It is not only instructive of the success of the DNCMSM to deceive some Americans for the benefit of their bosses, it is also rather amusing that some Americans can’t see the elephant in the room. They must be blind on purpose.

Doug Casey spells it out...please read the entire column.

Doug Casey: The Deep State Is the Source of Our Economic Problems

Who Is Part of the Deep State?

The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

The Deep State has a life of its own, like the government itself. It’s composed of top-echelon employees of a dozen Praetorian agencies, like the FBI, CIA, and NSA… top generals, admirals, and other military operatives… long-term congressmen and senators… and directors of important regulatory agencies.

But the Deep State is much broader than just the government. It includes the heads of major corporations, all of whom are heavily involved in selling to the State and enabling it. That absolutely includes Silicon Valley, although those guys at least have a sense of humor, evidenced by their “Don’t Be Evil” motto. It also includes all the top people in the Fed, and the heads of all the major banks, brokers, and insurers. Add the presidents and many professors at top universities, which act as Deep State recruiting centers… all the top media figures, of course… and many regulars at things like Bohemian Grove and the Council on Foreign Relations. They epitomize the status quo, held together by power, money, and propaganda.

Altogether, I’ll guess these people number a thousand or so. You might analogize the structure of the Deep State with a huge pack of dogs. The people I’ve just described are the top dogs.

But there are hundreds of thousands more who aren’t at the nexus, but who directly depend on them, have considerable clout, and support the Deep State because it supports them. This includes many of the wealthy, especially those who got that way thanks to their State connections… the 1.5 million people who have top secret clearances (that’s a shocking, but accurate, number)… plus top players in organized crime, especially the illegal drug business, little of which would exist without the State. Plus mid-level types in the police and military, corporations, and non-governmental organizations.

These are what you might call the running dogs.

https://www.caseyresearch.com/artic...state-is-the-source-of-our-economic-problems/

so the deep state is what you all used to call GLOBALISTS?

 

[Seawytch]

"What is the Deep State"?

A figment of the imagination of insane people.

 

[Care4all]

Nadler is holding William Barr in Contempt for refusing to break the law and declassify information that is against the law to divulge. And people are letting him get away with it. the DNC marionettes in the FBI are their best weaponized destroyers of the Trump administration.

FYI- that IS NOT why Barr is being held in contempt of congress

On Wednesday afternoon, the Oversight Committee passed a contempt resolution on a 24-15 vote for both Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, specifically because the Trump administration is not complying with the committee’s subpoena request for information on why they added a US citizenship question to the 2020 census. Republican Rep. Justin Amash (MI), a vocal supporter of impeaching President Trump, voted with Democrats.

As Vox’s Dara Lind explained, the decision to add the citizenship question was a controversial move, and one that the US Supreme Court is set to issue a ruling on this term. A group of states sued the administration over concern that the question could scare off immigrants from filling out the census questionnaire, and thus throw off the population data that’s used to draw House districts for the next 10 years.

There’s also evidence that Republicans may have been trying to give themselves an electoral advantage through this move; unearthed court files showing that late Republican redistricting strategist Thomas Hofeller “played a significant role in orchestrating the addition of the citizenship question to the 2020 Decennial Census to create a structural electoral advantage for, in his own words, ‘Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites.’”

While these states and the Trump administration await the Supreme Court ruling, Oversight Committee Chair Elijah Cummings (D-MD) and his committee members have been trying to learn more about why the citizenship question was added at all, seeking documents and witnesses from the administration to get answers.

Of course, they haven’t been successful — the Trump administration has refused to comply with the committee’s requests, as it has with all other congressional subpoenas. On Wednesday, the administration asserted sweeping executive privilege to block the committee’s access to documents related to the census.

That brings us to today’s committee vote, when Cummings will use the power the full House gave him Wednesday to hold Barr and Ross in contempt of Congress and pursue legal action of his own.

“It does not matter what the topic is — the tactics are the same,” Cummings said in recent remarks. “And this begs the question — what are they hiding?”

The census investigation speaks to a larger pattern of obstruction by the Trump administration


read the rest HERE: House committee votes that attorney general and commerce secretary be held in contempt of Congress

 

[rightwinger]

Nobody can define what the Deep State is or specifically what they do

They just know it is there and it is evil

 

[rightwinger]

Did the Deep State exist while Obama was President?

 

[Care4all]

I find it rather instructive that many on the Left dispute that it even exists. They think this way because the DNCMSM has told them it doesn’t exist, which is most convenient for their cause. Adherents of the MSM apparently can’t see the transparent effort to deceive them. It is not only instructive of the success of the DNCMSM to deceive some Americans for the benefit of their bosses, it is also rather amusing that some Americans can’t see the elephant in the room. They must be blind on purpose.

Doug Casey spells it out...please read the entire column.

Doug Casey: The Deep State Is the Source of Our Economic Problems

Who Is Part of the Deep State?

The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

The Deep State has a life of its own, like the government itself. It’s composed of top-echelon employees of a dozen Praetorian agencies, like the FBI, CIA, and NSA… top generals, admirals, and other military operatives… long-term congressmen and senators… and directors of important regulatory agencies.

But the Deep State is much broader than just the government. It includes the heads of major corporations, all of whom are heavily involved in selling to the State and enabling it. That absolutely includes Silicon Valley, although those guys at least have a sense of humor, evidenced by their “Don’t Be Evil” motto. It also includes all the top people in the Fed, and the heads of all the major banks, brokers, and insurers. Add the presidents and many professors at top universities, which act as Deep State recruiting centers… all the top media figures, of course… and many regulars at things like Bohemian Grove and the Council on Foreign Relations. They epitomize the status quo, held together by power, money, and propaganda.

Altogether, I’ll guess these people number a thousand or so. You might analogize the structure of the Deep State with a huge pack of dogs. The people I’ve just described are the top dogs.

But there are hundreds of thousands more who aren’t at the nexus, but who directly depend on them, have considerable clout, and support the Deep State because it supports them. This includes many of the wealthy, especially those who got that way thanks to their State connections… the 1.5 million people who have top secret clearances (that’s a shocking, but accurate, number)… plus top players in organized crime, especially the illegal drug business, little of which would exist without the State. Plus mid-level types in the police and military, corporations, and non-governmental organizations.

These are what you might call the running dogs.

https://www.caseyresearch.com/artic...state-is-the-source-of-our-economic-problems/

so the deep state is what you all used to call GLOBALISTS?

globalists or the illuminati or the one world order, or The Free Mason's, skull and bones type of secret societies???

 

[beautress]

Nadler is holding William Barr in Contempt for refusing to break the law and declassify information that is against the law to divulge. And people are letting him get away with it. the DNC marionettes in the FBI are their best weaponized destroyers of the Trump administration.

FYI- that IS NOT why Barr is being held in contempt of congress

On Wednesday afternoon, the Oversight Committee passed a contempt resolution on a 24-15 vote for both Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, specifically because the Trump administration is not complying with the committee’s subpoena request for information on why they added a US citizenship question to the 2020 census. Republican Rep. Justin Amash (MI), a vocal supporter of impeaching President Trump, voted with Democrats.

As Vox’s Dara Lind explained, the decision to add the citizenship question was a controversial move, and one that the US Supreme Court is set to issue a ruling on this term. A group of states sued the administration over concern that the question could scare off immigrants from filling out the census questionnaire, and thus throw off the population data that’s used to draw House districts for the next 10 years.

There’s also evidence that Republicans may have been trying to give themselves an electoral advantage through this move; unearthed court files showing that late Republican redistricting strategist Thomas Hofeller “played a significant role in orchestrating the addition of the citizenship question to the 2020 Decennial Census to create a structural electoral advantage for, in his own words, ‘Republicans and Non-Hispanic Whites.’”

While these states and the Trump administration await the Supreme Court ruling, Oversight Committee Chair Elijah Cummings (D-MD) and his committee members have been trying to learn more about why the citizenship question was added at all, seeking documents and witnesses from the administration to get answers.

Of course, they haven’t been successful — the Trump administration has refused to comply with the committee’s requests, as it has with all other congressional subpoenas. On Wednesday, the administration asserted sweeping executive privilege to block the committee’s access to documents related to the census.

That brings us to today’s committee vote, when Cummings will use the power the full House gave him Wednesday to hold Barr and Ross in contempt of Congress and pursue legal action of his own.

“It does not matter what the topic is — the tactics are the same,” Cummings said in recent remarks. “And this begs the question — what are they hiding?”

The census investigation speaks to a larger pattern of obstruction by the Trump administration


read the rest HERE: House committee votes that attorney general and commerce secretary be held in contempt of Congress

"On Wednesday afternoon, the Oversight Committee passed a contempt resolution on a 24-15 vote for both Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, specifically because the Trump administration is not complying with the committee’s subpoena request for information on why they added a US citizenship question to the 2020 census. Republican Rep. Justin Amash (MI), a vocal supporter of impeaching President Trump, voted with Democrats."
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You bought that? Don't expect those of us who've watched Democrats pull a stunt like accusing President Trump of colluding with the government, then throwing Republican supporters in jail for every reason under the sun to fall for their bull malarkey. They know it's bull malarkey, but it fluffs their entire base to see them damage Republicans because their college professors raised them to be good little socio/communists and use Machiavellian techniques and a few other dirty tricks in their winner-takes-all quest.

I'm not buying it.

 

[Norman]

Nobody can define what the Deep State is or specifically what they do

They just know it is there and it is evil

Kind of like the patriarchy of the feminist theory? Oh wait, that's actually white males.

The deep state is simply put, the people in power who have turned their backs on Americans to enrich themselves and their interest groups at expense of others. It's really simple... How many times in history has this group been hanged before?

 

[gipper]

Casey just keeps exposing it...outstanding column.

The Deep State is an extremely powerful network that controls nearly everything around you. You won’t read about it in the news because it controls the news. Politicians won’t talk about it publicly. That would be like a mobster discussing murder and robbery on the 6 o’clock news. You could say the Deep State is hidden, but it’s only hidden in plain sight.

The Deep State is the source of every negative thing that’s happening right now. To survive the coming rough times, it’s essential for you to know what it’s all about.

On one hand you claim the Deep State is an extremely powerful network and yet, Doug Casey claims ......The American Deep State is a real, but informal, structure that has arisen to not just profit from, but control, the State.

So what is it?

A bunch of people operating with their own goals or a powerful network with leadership, an objective and command structure?

I look at Deep State as just a rehash of the NWO paranoia for conspiracy theorists?

Explain how my statements conflict with Casey’s?