What is the reason republicans have to explain why the US has 25% of all COVID deaths worldwide?

[JWBooth]

Obviously they pretend NONE of this is Trump’s fault and I personally don’t put ALL the blame on him even if his response has definitely contributed to the death toll.

The question is what explanation do they offer for this if NONE of it is Trump’s fault? Why do we now have more deaths than China?

I suppose they want to blame WHO but considering this organization is trying to mitigate the spread worldwide, that doesn’t somehow answer why the US is worst epicenter in the world. Try again?

Cuomo? Even if you subtracted ALL of the NY deaths, we would stIll be #1. Hell it’s not like it would have been physically possible to eliminate any death whatsoever from NY.

Don’t worry, the rest will catch up and you can still sit in your mom’s basement pleasuring yourself to TDS porn.

 

[Norman]

Obviously they pretend NONE of this is Trump’s fault and I personally don’t put ALL the blame on him even if his response has definitely contributed to the death toll.

The question is what explanation do they offer for this if NONE of it is Trump’s fault? Why do we now have more deaths than China?

I suppose they want to blame WHO but considering this organization is trying to mitigate the spread worldwide, that doesn’t somehow answer why the US is worst epicenter in the world. Try again?

Cuomo? Even if you subtracted ALL of the NY deaths, we would stIll be #1. Hell it’s not like it would have been physically possible to eliminate any death whatsoever from NY.

Can you give us a reason why all the deaths are occurring in NYC?

The answer to your question is simple, we track things better. Not much testing going on in Africa.

 

[2aguy]

Obviously they pretend NONE of this is Trump’s fault and I personally don’t put ALL the blame on him even if his response has definitely contributed to the death toll.

The question is what explanation do they offer for this if NONE of it is Trump’s fault? Why do we now have more deaths than China?

I suppose they want to blame WHO but considering this organization is trying to mitigate the spread worldwide, that doesn’t somehow answer why the US is worst epicenter in the world. Try again?

Cuomo? Even if you subtracted ALL of the NY deaths, we would stIll be #1. Hell it’s not like it would have been physically possible to eliminate any death whatsoever from NY.

How do you know we have more deaths than China? They are lying about everything.......I hope you cashed that check from the CCP.

 

[CWayne]

Obviously they pretend NONE of this is Trump’s fault and I personally don’t put ALL the blame on him even if his response has definitely contributed to the death toll.

The question is what explanation do they offer for this if NONE of it is Trump’s fault? Why do we now have more deaths than China?

I suppose they want to blame WHO but considering this organization is trying to mitigate the spread worldwide, that doesn’t somehow answer why the US is worst epicenter in the world. Try again?

Obviously, YOU pretend that this is ALL Trumps fault and no one, not one Democrat, not one UN official, not wan Chinese official is responsible.

What is your explanation for the failed isolation policy you support?

It’s no one’s fault the virus arrived in the US. What is at fault is the response to when we knew we had confirmed cases.

The response has been more than should have been, but along the wrong track. Isolation to flatten the curve is how you get 100 times more dead later.

Always a pound of cure for an ounce of prevention with fearmongers.

 

[easyt65]

Obviously they pretend NONE of this is Trump’s fault and I personally don’t put ALL the blame on him even if his response has definitely contributed to the death toll.

The question is what explanation do they offer for this if NONE of it is Trump’s fault? Why do we now have more deaths than China?

I suppose they want to blame WHO but considering this organization is trying to mitigate the spread worldwide, that doesn’t somehow answer why the US is worst epicenter in the world. Try again?

Cuomo? Even if you subtracted ALL of the NY deaths, we would stIll be #1. Hell it’s not like it would have been physically possible to eliminate any death whatsoever from NY.

Cuomo's order to force Nursing homes to take COVID-19 positive elderly patients, endangering the lives of those Cuomo even acknowledged are the most vulnerable, was not smart.

The declaration that we have more deaths than China is a 'reach', considering China has not reported its actual numbers and there is a push in the US to pad the mortality rate numbers by classifying anyone whose death of anything (tumor, heart attack, cancer, car crash) and turns out to have / are suspected of having COVID-19 is classified as having died from the virus.
-- Whether its someone from the scientific community attempting to show the model projections weren't that far off or China / the WHO attempting to discredit the US / Trump to distract from their criminally misleading acts....

.

 

[Redfish]

The virus started at a Chinese lab, it escaped and spread world wide. We need to know if the release was truly accidental or intentional. If intentional, it represents an act of war by China on the entire world---a biological weapon release. The chinese shut down travel between Wuhan and the rest of China but allowed travel from Wuhan to the rest of the world. Why?

We need the truth.

 

[Crepitus]

Cell phones are only turned off when someone dies.

Wow, you said that like you actually believed it.

Youndo know they turn them off if you don't pay the bill, right?

You know anyone who actually turns off their cell phone?
I don't.

The cell phone company will turn off your phone if you don't pay the bill. Quarantined people are out of work. They aren't making any money. They don't pay the bills. The cell phone company turns off their phones.

This isn't rocket science here.

When you cancel your cell phone in China do you get a free urn?

Shipments of urns in Wuhan raise questions about China’s coronavirus reporting

Massive deliveries of urns in Wuhan have raised fresh skepticism of China’s coronavirus reporting. As families in the central Chinese city began picking up the cremated ashes of those who have died…

nypost.com

From your link:

"It’s not clear how many of the urns were filled."

 

[Crepitus]

Cell phones are only turned off when someone dies.

Wow, you said that like you actually believed it.

Youndo know they turn them off if you don't pay the bill, right?

You know anyone who actually turns off their cell phone?
I don't.

The cell phone company will turn off your phone if you don't pay the bill. Quarantined people are out of work. They aren't making any money. They don't pay the bills. The cell phone company turns off their phones.

This isn't rocket science here.

Cool story...everyone is getting a check for 4 months...what are they doing with the money?
There is nothing more important to anyone than their Smart Phone.

This isn't rocket science here.

Everyone is getting a check for 4 months in China?

Link?

 

[Crepitus]

The virus started at a Chinese lab, it escaped and spread world wide. We need to know if the release was truly accidental or intentional. If intentional, it represents an act of war by China on the entire world---a biological weapon release. The chinese shut down travel between Wuhan and the rest of China but allowed travel from Wuhan to the rest of the world. Why?

We need the truth.

Conspiracy theories are not helpful.

 

[Redfish]

The virus started at a Chinese lab, it escaped and spread world wide. We need to know if the release was truly accidental or intentional. If intentional, it represents an act of war by China on the entire world---a biological weapon release. The chinese shut down travel between Wuhan and the rest of China but allowed travel from Wuhan to the rest of the world. Why?

We need the truth.

Conspiracy theories are not helpful.

I posted no theory, merely asked a legitimate question. China was losing the economic war big time, then the virus hit. its legitimate to question what actually happened and why.

 

[Nostra]

Obviously they pretend NONE of this is Trump’s fault and I personally don’t put ALL the blame on him even if his response has definitely contributed to the death toll.

The question is what explanation do they offer for this if NONE of it is Trump’s fault? Why do we now have more deaths than China?

I suppose they want to blame WHO but considering this organization is trying to mitigate the spread worldwide, that doesn’t somehow answer why the US is worst epicenter in the world. Try again?

They have the same reason every thinking person has, several large cities with high population densities and a LOT of international travel. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to not understand that?

And yes, you do put all the blame on Trump. If not, please name who else you blame.

It’s no one’s fault that the virus had arrived in the US. The fault lies in the response to it once we knew it was here. That’s what matters.

Yep, and while Trump was putting in travel bans you clowns were calling him xenophobic and said he was overreacting.

He didn't put in any travel bans. He banned Chinese people from coming from China to the USA. He called 40,000 Americans home from China when he banned Chinese people. Those 40,000 people, who weren't tested when they came home, brought the virus with them and spread it across the country. This only happened in the USA, and it's a direct result of your so-called ban.

A similar thing happened in Canada when we closed the US border. All the snowbirds came home from the USA and brough the virus with them. The difference being, we insisted everyone coming into the country be tested, and told people to self-isolate for 2 weeks after they got home. We still saw a big spike in cases coming from the USA. More Canadians were infected in the USA than any other country.

But here's the big difference. We had tests, PPE's, and we started buying them in January, and testing in January. Ontario now has more recovered cases than active cases, with a death rate of 10% of closed cases. The death rate Canada wide is now 12.9%. The USA is holding strong with a death rate of 32%, but it usually declines over the weekend due to some states not reporting death numbers over the weekend.

Spain now has more recovered cases than active cases. Italy has a ways to go to get there. Active cases in the USA are now over 800,000.

But keep telling me what a great job your hero is doing.

He didn't put in any travel bans. He banned Chinese people from coming from China to the USA.

No travel bans, he just banned the Chinese from travelling here. Do you ever read the idiocy you post before hitting reply?

 

[Crepitus]

The virus started at a Chinese lab, it escaped and spread world wide. We need to know if the release was truly accidental or intentional. If intentional, it represents an act of war by China on the entire world---a biological weapon release. The chinese shut down travel between Wuhan and the rest of China but allowed travel from Wuhan to the rest of the world. Why?

We need the truth.

Conspiracy theories are not helpful.

I posted no theory, merely asked a legitimate question. China was losing the economic war big time, then the virus hit. its legitimate to question what actually happened and why.

You pretended something was a fact that was not. That's a conspiracy theory.

Don't like being called on it?

Well don't fuckin' do it.

 

[Nostra]

Obviously they pretend NONE of this is Trump’s fault and I personally don’t put ALL the blame on him even if his response has definitely contributed to the death toll.

The question is what explanation do they offer for this if NONE of it is Trump’s fault? Why do we now have more deaths than China?

I suppose they want to blame WHO but considering this organization is trying to mitigate the spread worldwide, that doesn’t somehow answer why the US is worst epicenter in the world. Try again?

They have the same reason every thinking person has, several large cities with high population densities and a LOT of international travel. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to not understand that?

And yes, you do put all the blame on Trump. If not, please name who else you blame.

It’s no one’s fault that the virus had arrived in the US. The fault lies in the response to it once we knew it was here. That’s what matters.

Yep, and while Trump was putting in travel bans you clowns were calling him xenophobic and said he was overreacting.

He didn't put in any travel bans. He banned Chinese people from coming from China to the USA. He called 40,000 Americans home from China when he banned Chinese people. Those 40,000 people, who weren't tested when they came home, brought the virus with them and spread it across the country. This only happened in the USA, and it's a direct result of your so-called ban.

A similar thing happened in Canada when we closed the US border. All the snowbirds came home from the USA and brough the virus with them. The difference being, we insisted everyone coming into the country be tested, and told people to self-isolate for 2 weeks after they got home. We still saw a big spike in cases coming from the USA. More Canadians were infected in the USA than any other country.

But here's the big difference. We had tests, PPE's, and we started buying them in January, and testing in January. Ontario now has more recovered cases than active cases, with a death rate of 10% of closed cases. The death rate Canada wide is now 12.9%. The USA is holding strong with a death rate of 32%, but it usually declines over the weekend due to some states not reporting death numbers over the weekend.

Spain now has more recovered cases than active cases. Italy has a ways to go to get there. Active cases in the USA are now over 800,000.

But keep telling me what a great job your hero is doing.

The USA is holding strong with a death rate of 32%,

Do you really think such a blatant lie wouldn't get called out? You are a lying sack of shit. 5.61 is the US death rate, liar.

United States

55,497

169.6

+84

5,530,655

-

989,838

5.61%

3,025.5

40,905

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per 1M Population | RealClearPolitics

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[WTH_Progs?]

I'm trying to figure out PROG heads

On one hand they complain that Trump is a authoritarian, totalitarian, dictatorial, fascist, despotic, draconian, autocratic, Nazi, undemocratic, anti-democratic, illiberal, extreme right-wing, far right-wing, ultra-right, rightist, militarist. nationalist, nationalistic, xenophobic, jingoistic, isolationist king.

On the other they complain that COVID spread is Trump's fault for not exercising those qualities to control us in order to reduce the number of cases.

Just me or do PROGS complain no matter what Trump does?

 

[Nostra]

Obviously they pretend NONE of this is Trump’s fault and I personally don’t put ALL the blame on him even if his response has definitely contributed to the death toll.

The question is what explanation do they offer for this if NONE of it is Trump’s fault? Why do we now have more deaths than China?

I suppose they want to blame WHO but considering this organization is trying to mitigate the spread worldwide, that doesn’t somehow answer why the US is worst epicenter in the world. Try again?

Cuomo? Even if you subtracted ALL of the NY deaths, we would stIll be #1. Hell it’s not like it would have been physically possible to eliminate any death whatsoever from NY.

Cuomo's order to force Nursing homes to take COVID-19 positive elderly patients, endangering the lives of those Cuomo even acknowledged are the most vulnerable, was not smart.

The declaration that we have more deaths than China is a 'reach', considering China has not reported its actual numbers and there is a push in the US to pad the mortality rate numbers by classifying anyone whose death of anything (tumor, heart attack, cancer, car crash) and turns out to have / are suspected of having COVID-19 is classified as having died from the virus.
-- Whether its someone from the scientific community attempting to show the model projections weren't that far off or China / the WHO attempting to discredit the US / Trump to distract from their criminally misleading acts....

.

Nursing homes are busting his budget, so this is a cheap way to solve that problem.

 

[WillowTree]

The virus started at a Chinese lab, it escaped and spread world wide. We need to know if the release was truly accidental or intentional. If intentional, it represents an act of war by China on the entire world---a biological weapon release. The chinese shut down travel between Wuhan and the rest of China but allowed travel from Wuhan to the rest of the world. Why?

We need the truth.

That is an excellent question. The last fact tells me it was intentional.

Wuhan, Center of Coronavirus Outbreak, Is Being Cut Off by Chinese Authorities (Published 2020)

The sudden restrictions — announced after the official death toll nearly doubled — could upend the travel plans of millions of Chinese citizens, who travel in huge numbers during the Lunar New Year holiday.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Indeependent]

Cell phones are only turned off when someone dies.

Wow, you said that like you actually believed it.

Youndo know they turn them off if you don't pay the bill, right?

You know anyone who actually turns off their cell phone?
I don't.

The cell phone company will turn off your phone if you don't pay the bill. Quarantined people are out of work. They aren't making any money. They don't pay the bills. The cell phone company turns off their phones.

This isn't rocket science here.

Cool story...everyone is getting a check for 4 months...what are they doing with the money?
There is nothing more important to anyone than their Smart Phone.

This isn't rocket science here.

Everyone is getting a check for 4 months in China?

Link?

The US.

 

[Indeependent]

Cell phones are only turned off when someone dies.

Wow, you said that like you actually believed it.

Youndo know they turn them off if you don't pay the bill, right?

You know anyone who actually turns off their cell phone?
I don't.

The cell phone company will turn off your phone if you don't pay the bill. Quarantined people are out of work. They aren't making any money. They don't pay the bills. The cell phone company turns off their phones.

This isn't rocket science here.

When you cancel your cell phone in China do you get a free urn?

Shipments of urns in Wuhan raise questions about China’s coronavirus reporting

Massive deliveries of urns in Wuhan have raised fresh skepticism of China’s coronavirus reporting. As families in the central Chinese city began picking up the cremated ashes of those who have died…

nypost.com

From your link:

"It’s not clear how many of the urns were filled."

Do you know anyone who does business in China?
One mistake and you are literally toast.

 

[airplanemechanic]

airplanemechanic — There is no clear evidence of it, but how much do you claim China “lied” about the number infected and dead from Covid-19? Even if they “lied” their asses off, even if the number of dead and infected were 10x what they claim — their success in stopping the spread would still be overwhelming, compared to us. I have tried to explain why that success was possible.

Of course now that they have opened factories again, and even subways in their teaming cities, China has to maintain discipline or there will be new outbreaks. As others have pointed out, this virus is still circulating throughout the world, and inevitably will return to China sooner or later. Either through vaccines or natural spreading “herd immunity,” their population and ours will both survive. But for them the immediate crisis has clearly passed.

Do you always insult people when you have nothing significant to add to the discussion?

I've added a hell of a lot more to the discussion than you did. I stopped reading your bullshit at "they did a good job of stopping the virus" because at that point I knew you were full of shit.

It's not 10 times more than they are actually reporting, it's more like 1000 times. Can you explain why the fuck a country that RESPONSIBLE for this virus getting out in the first place can hold a city like Beijing of 21 MILLION PEOPLE to only 8 cases??????

21 million cell phones being turned off since January indicates a HELL of a lot more than 40000 deaths or whatever the fuck they reported. Their deaths are in the tens of millions. Even the liberal media is saying China is lying their asses off.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Cell phones are only turned off when someone dies.

Wow, you said that like you actually believed it.

Youndo know they turn them off if you don't pay the bill, right?

You know anyone who actually turns off their cell phone?
I don't.

The cell phone company will turn off your phone if you don't pay the bill. Quarantined people are out of work. They aren't making any money. They don't pay the bills. The cell phone company turns off their phones.

This isn't rocket science here.

When you cancel your cell phone in China do you get a free urn?

Shipments of urns in Wuhan raise questions about China’s coronavirus reporting

Massive deliveries of urns in Wuhan have raised fresh skepticism of China’s coronavirus reporting. As families in the central Chinese city began picking up the cremated ashes of those who have died…

nypost.com

From your link:

"It’s not clear how many of the urns were filled."

Nobody said they were filled. THEY WERE ORDERED YOU FUCKING MORON. Why would they have a mass order of urns if nobody is dying from this fucking disease?

I promise your fucking dumb ass that if Hillary was in the white house and this was going on you would be saying China is lying their asses off or would you be saying Hillary was fucking up? We both know the answer to that question.

What's the difference between me and you? If Hillary was in the White House I'd STILL be saying China was lying their asses off.