2aguy
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You are wrong when you claim that Progressives want to take all your guns.There have been over 2,350 posts on this worthless thread.
My Progressive good friends are open to one, and only one solution, theirs. Confiscate all guns and radically increase our violent crime rate in America.
Solid answers have been proposed to Progressives but they are not the ones they want, so they lie and say none have been proposed.
The truth, as we know, is that guns will not be confiscated so get over it. The truth too is that mass shootings will never be eliminated. They can be reduced IF we, as Americans, are willing to sacrifice our personal liberties and freedoms. Those liberties and freedoms would include the government being able to hold in custody and placed in mental hospitals those who expressed themselves as a danger. The government has made formal contact with many of the people who have gone on to be mass killers. Do that and the Democrats/Progressives legal wing, the ACLU would erupt!
Tell me where I'm wrong.
This is the same stupid fucking argument you assfucks always use.
Pull your hrad out the the NRA's ass & try to be honest once in awhile.
Look at communities where progressives rule, Dave.
Try to get a concealed carry permit in Chicago or Pyongyang and let me know how it goes. Sure, the progs want to disarm the public.
Are Chicago's gun laws that strict? An explainer
City residents can own firearms but with several conditions: You must be 21 years old and possess a firearm owner's identification (FOID) card and concealed carry license, both issued by Illinois State Police.
Prior to getting a concealed carry license, residents must complete a 16-hour training course, which includes a gun range test that residents must pass, as well as coursework on gun safety. They are also subject to a background check and must pay a $150 application fee. Applicants may be denied a concealed carry license, or have law enforcement agencies object to their applications, if they have particular criminal convictions.
Those who keep guns in the home must hold only a valid FOID card. Gun owners who carry a firearm outside the home must have an FOID and a concealed carry permit.
Not any different than many other major cities. And this has been upheld under Heller V. You should have used NYC for an example. Now, that is one bad place to try and get a CCW. NYC takes at least 8 months, lots of cash and after 8 months, you still may be turned down. In fact, in NYC, it may drag on even longer than that. Now compare the Gun Crimes between NYC and Chicago. Get a real eye opener. The fact is, there are more CCW carriers in Chicago than NYC yet the gun crimes in NYC are only a fraction of Chicagos. There is no proof that more CCWs means less gun crimes.
Yes, actually, there is...about 18 different lines of research show that armed citizens help reduce the crime rate.....and most important? It reduces the crime rate for the victims who use legal guns to save their own lives...