What Kind of State in Israel?

[RoccoR]

toastman, et al,

Wow, is that what you took away from that?

... ... ...
Yes, I've seen this, and similar videos before; and as a tactical explanation, it expresses the situation quite accurately.
... ... ...
It is time for change. And the quasi-recognition of the Palestinian is a turning point. Israel must understand that it is not the master and slumlord of the Occupied Territories. Or it will be taken away.

Taken away by whom ?

(To the Question)

Israel is losing ground and political support, little by little. Between now, and the year 2030, you will see a decline in the use and effectiveness of political-military hegemonies. The US is already at the point where it can no longer support such adventures. Even the ANA (security forces in general) have lost funding, even in the face of certain distaster.

Thus, Israel will not have the support it once had in the UN, as well as direct links, that it once enjoyed. If the International Community comes to the conclusion that unrestrained Israeli militarism over the Occupied Territories are no longer in the best interest of regional peace, the International Community will gradually place economic pressures on Israel until Israel decides that it is in its own best interest to change.

The US, once the dominant world power, is already gradually losing its clout. Without a coalition, it could not have tackled Iraq or Afghanistan alone, with any residual presence. While it can defeat most military opponents, it cannot stay and be effective beyond the cessation of hostilities. And Israel will find that is the International Community decides to place a military embargo (or take some other similar measure) it will find that it has lost the umbrella in US support it once had; unless it turns the situation around. It may take a while, but gradually, it will happen, just as the US finds itself in the situation that very few nations are now wiling to help it (without cold cash and other tangible compensation).

(To the Point)

The more important point here is that Israel needs to become something other than what it is today. No longer will Israels national defense be the plausible excuse to cover its choices in the Occupied Territories. It will have to make some sacrifices that benefit the region and specifically the Occupied Territories. And these sacrifices must be demonstrated by deeds and actions.

If Israel makes the change, and the Palestinian and Arab World exploit these deeds and actions, or continue their less than peaceful ways, THEN the International Community will once again bring its support back.

To renew Israel support, there has to be a clear "good guy" and a clear "bad guy" in the picture. If both sides are just as bad, the presumption will be that the stronger of the two is also the worst of the two. If Israel is seen to make a sustained and clear sacrifice in making "major improvements" in the Occupied Territories, and the Palestinians then bite the hands, THEN --- the International Community will be able to recognize that the Palestinian is clearly the "bad guy" in the equation.

Israel has painted itself into a corner. But it better do something significant (no marginal half-stepping) or its image with continue to deteriorate for cause.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hossfly]

UNSC?
Russia, China, USA...?
And...BDSmovement.net | The Palestinian BDS National Committee website

Maybe Georgie Boy, with his persuasive powers, can convince this Arab Muslim journalist that he has to join the BDS movement.

The Palestinian Authority's Inconvenient Truths :: Gatestone Institute

 

[georgephillip]

UNSC?
Russia, China, USA...?
And...BDSmovement.net | The Palestinian BDS National Committee website

Maybe Georgie Boy, with his persuasive powers, can convince this Arab Muslim journalist that he has to join the BDS movement.

The Palestinian Authority's Inconvenient Truths :: Gatestone Institute

Your link, Hoss:

"Over 100 senior PLO and Fatah officials hold Israeli-issued VIP cards that grant them various privileges denied to most Palestinians. Among these privileges is the freedom to enter Israel and travel abroad at any time they wish. This privileging has existed since the signing of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in 1993."

IMHO, since Oslo, PLO and Fatah officials have been serving the interests of the US and Israel in the Occupied Territories. Part of the explanation for the rise of Hamas stems from this collusion on the West Bank.

What would Mandela say?

"'For to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.' –Nelson Mandela

"Horrified at the latest round of Israeli aggression against the 1.5 million Palestinians in the besieged and occupied Gaza Strip and conscious of the impunity that has enabled this new chapter in Israel’s decades-old violations of international law and Palestinian rights, we believe there is an urgent need for international action towards a mandatory, comprehensive military embargo against Israel.

"Such a measure has been subject to several UN resolutions[1] and is similar to the arms embargo imposed against apartheid South Africa in the past.

Now is the time for a military embargo on Israel! | BDSmovement.net

 

[Hossfly]

UNSC?
Russia, China, USA...?
And...BDSmovement.net | The Palestinian BDS National Committee website

Maybe Georgie Boy, with his persuasive powers, can convince this Arab Muslim journalist that he has to join the BDS movement.

The Palestinian Authority's Inconvenient Truths :: Gatestone Institute

Your link, Hoss:

"Over 100 senior PLO and Fatah officials hold Israeli-issued VIP cards that grant them various privileges denied to most Palestinians. Among these privileges is the freedom to enter Israel and travel abroad at any time they wish. This privileging has existed since the signing of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in 1993."

IMHO, since Oslo, PLO and Fatah officials have been serving the interests of the US and Israel in the Occupied Territories. Part of the explanation for the rise of Hamas stems from this collusion on the West Bank.

What would Mandela say?

"'For to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.' –Nelson Mandela

"Horrified at the latest round of Israeli aggression against the 1.5 million Palestinians in the besieged and occupied Gaza Strip and conscious of the impunity that has enabled this new chapter in Israel’s decades-old violations of international law and Palestinian rights, we believe there is an urgent need for international action towards a mandatory, comprehensive military embargo against Israel.

"Such a measure has been subject to several UN resolutions[1] and is similar to the arms embargo imposed against apartheid South Africa in the past.

Now is the time for a military embargo on Israel! | BDSmovement.net

Do you honestly think, Georgie Boy, that countries are going to stop selling military equipment to Israel regardless of how loud you and your Dhimmi friends yell. By the way, Israel manufacturers a lot of its own military equipment. Meanwhile, why don't all you Dhimmis call for a boycott of Israel's technological and medical advances if you are so against Israel? So many products are transshipped from one country to another so we will really never know how many of Israel's products are actually used in the Muslim countries. And I doubt that those countries who invite Israelis in to help them with their agriculture and animal husbandry needs are going to tell the Israelis not to come. I wonder if Georgie Boy, being the humanitarian he wants us to think he is, ever thought of setting up some kind of boycott against the countries who harass and murder people because of their religious beliefs. We could always have the products that are currently made in those countries manufactured instead in Mexico and Central America and even South America. After all, do we really need to buy clothing from a country such as Pakistan where Christians and Hindus are being killed along with the Shiite Muslims by the Sunnis? I am sure that people realize that this BDS group is not bothered with those who kill people because of their religion. They are only interested if Jews are involved..

 

[P F Tinmore]

Maybe Georgie Boy, with his persuasive powers, can convince this Arab Muslim journalist that he has to join the BDS movement.

The Palestinian Authority's Inconvenient Truths :: Gatestone Institute

Your link, Hoss:

"Over 100 senior PLO and Fatah officials hold Israeli-issued VIP cards that grant them various privileges denied to most Palestinians. Among these privileges is the freedom to enter Israel and travel abroad at any time they wish. This privileging has existed since the signing of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in 1993."

IMHO, since Oslo, PLO and Fatah officials have been serving the interests of the US and Israel in the Occupied Territories. Part of the explanation for the rise of Hamas stems from this collusion on the West Bank.

What would Mandela say?

"'For to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.' –Nelson Mandela

"Horrified at the latest round of Israeli aggression against the 1.5 million Palestinians in the besieged and occupied Gaza Strip and conscious of the impunity that has enabled this new chapter in Israel’s decades-old violations of international law and Palestinian rights, we believe there is an urgent need for international action towards a mandatory, comprehensive military embargo against Israel.

"Such a measure has been subject to several UN resolutions[1] and is similar to the arms embargo imposed against apartheid South Africa in the past.

Now is the time for a military embargo on Israel! | BDSmovement.net

Do you honestly think, Georgie Boy, that countries are going to stop selling military equipment to Israel regardless of how loud you and your Dhimmi friends yell. By the way, Israel manufacturers a lot of its own military equipment. Meanwhile, why don't all you Dhimmis call for a boycott of Israel's technological and medical advances if you are so against Israel? So many products are transshipped from one country to another so we will really never know how many of Israel's products are actually used in the Muslim countries. And I doubt that those countries who invite Israelis in to help them with their agriculture and animal husbandry needs are going to tell the Israelis not to come. I wonder if Georgie Boy, being the humanitarian he wants us to think he is, ever thought of setting up some kind of boycott against the countries who harass and murder people because of their religious beliefs. We could always have the products that are currently made in those countries manufactured instead in Mexico and Central America and even South America. After all, do we really need to buy clothing from a country such as Pakistan where Christians and Hindus are being killed along with the Shiite Muslims by the Sunnis? I am sure that people realize that this BDS group is not bothered with those who kill people because of their religion. They are only interested if Jews are involved..

Holy deflection, Batman.

 

[Hossfly]

Your link, Hoss:

"Over 100 senior PLO and Fatah officials hold Israeli-issued VIP cards that grant them various privileges denied to most Palestinians. Among these privileges is the freedom to enter Israel and travel abroad at any time they wish. This privileging has existed since the signing of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in 1993."

IMHO, since Oslo, PLO and Fatah officials have been serving the interests of the US and Israel in the Occupied Territories. Part of the explanation for the rise of Hamas stems from this collusion on the West Bank.

What would Mandela say?

"'For to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.' –Nelson Mandela

"Horrified at the latest round of Israeli aggression against the 1.5 million Palestinians in the besieged and occupied Gaza Strip and conscious of the impunity that has enabled this new chapter in Israel’s decades-old violations of international law and Palestinian rights, we believe there is an urgent need for international action towards a mandatory, comprehensive military embargo against Israel.

"Such a measure has been subject to several UN resolutions[1] and is similar to the arms embargo imposed against apartheid South Africa in the past.

Now is the time for a military embargo on Israel! | BDSmovement.net

Do you honestly think, Georgie Boy, that countries are going to stop selling military equipment to Israel regardless of how loud you and your Dhimmi friends yell. By the way, Israel manufacturers a lot of its own military equipment. Meanwhile, why don't all you Dhimmis call for a boycott of Israel's technological and medical advances if you are so against Israel? So many products are transshipped from one country to another so we will really never know how many of Israel's products are actually used in the Muslim countries. And I doubt that those countries who invite Israelis in to help them with their agriculture and animal husbandry needs are going to tell the Israelis not to come. I wonder if Georgie Boy, being the humanitarian he wants us to think he is, ever thought of setting up some kind of boycott against the countries who harass and murder people because of their religious beliefs. We could always have the products that are currently made in those countries manufactured instead in Mexico and Central America and even South America. After all, do we really need to buy clothing from a country such as Pakistan where Christians and Hindus are being killed along with the Shiite Muslims by the Sunnis? I am sure that people realize that this BDS group is not bothered with those who kill people because of their religion. They are only interested if Jews are involved..

Holy deflection, Batman.

Thanks, George.

 

[georgephillip]

Maybe Georgie Boy, with his persuasive powers, can convince this Arab Muslim journalist that he has to join the BDS movement.

The Palestinian Authority's Inconvenient Truths :: Gatestone Institute

Your link, Hoss:

"Over 100 senior PLO and Fatah officials hold Israeli-issued VIP cards that grant them various privileges denied to most Palestinians. Among these privileges is the freedom to enter Israel and travel abroad at any time they wish. This privileging has existed since the signing of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in 1993."

IMHO, since Oslo, PLO and Fatah officials have been serving the interests of the US and Israel in the Occupied Territories. Part of the explanation for the rise of Hamas stems from this collusion on the West Bank.

What would Mandela say?

"'For to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.' –Nelson Mandela

"Horrified at the latest round of Israeli aggression against the 1.5 million Palestinians in the besieged and occupied Gaza Strip and conscious of the impunity that has enabled this new chapter in Israel’s decades-old violations of international law and Palestinian rights, we believe there is an urgent need for international action towards a mandatory, comprehensive military embargo against Israel.

"Such a measure has been subject to several UN resolutions[1] and is similar to the arms embargo imposed against apartheid South Africa in the past.

Now is the time for a military embargo on Israel! | BDSmovement.net

Do you honestly think, Georgie Boy, that countries are going to stop selling military equipment to Israel regardless of how loud you and your Dhimmi friends yell. By the way, Israel manufacturers a lot of its own military equipment. Meanwhile, why don't all you Dhimmis call for a boycott of Israel's technological and medical advances if you are so against Israel? So many products are transshipped from one country to another so we will really never know how many of Israel's products are actually used in the Muslim countries. And I doubt that those countries who invite Israelis in to help them with their agriculture and animal husbandry needs are going to tell the Israelis not to come. I wonder if Georgie Boy, being the humanitarian he wants us to think he is, ever thought of setting up some kind of boycott against the countries who harass and murder people because of their religious beliefs. We could always have the products that are currently made in those countries manufactured instead in Mexico and Central America and even South America. After all, do we really need to buy clothing from a country such as Pakistan where Christians and Hindus are being killed along with the Shiite Muslims by the Sunnis? I am sure that people realize that this BDS group is not bothered with those who kill people because of their religion. They are only interested if Jews are involved..

Did you think countries would stop selling military equipment to your racist brothers in South Africa?
Why did Israel never cease military sales to another apartheid state, shit clumps?

Where did you get the idea human rights aren't routinely violated in Mexico?
Maybe you know why the "Land of the Free" has a larger prison population than any other country on the planet?
To those not hopelessly blinded by an accident of birth, US capitalism is a crime against humanity.

I think we agree about the difficulties of inflicting trade sanctions on a criminal state like Israel.
A better solution would involve banking sanctions, not unlike those your kin in White South Africa faced:

"SWIFT links 8,740 financial institutions in 209 countries. Without access to SWIFT and its interbank payment network, countries are unable either to pay for imports or to receive payment for exports. In short, no payment — no trade."

Terry Crawford-Browne: To end the occupation, cripple Israeli banks | Israeli Occupation Archive

 

[Hossfly]

Your link, Hoss:

"Over 100 senior PLO and Fatah officials hold Israeli-issued VIP cards that grant them various privileges denied to most Palestinians. Among these privileges is the freedom to enter Israel and travel abroad at any time they wish. This privileging has existed since the signing of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in 1993."

IMHO, since Oslo, PLO and Fatah officials have been serving the interests of the US and Israel in the Occupied Territories. Part of the explanation for the rise of Hamas stems from this collusion on the West Bank.

What would Mandela say?

"'For to be free is not merely to cast off one’s chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others.' –Nelson Mandela

"Horrified at the latest round of Israeli aggression against the 1.5 million Palestinians in the besieged and occupied Gaza Strip and conscious of the impunity that has enabled this new chapter in Israel’s decades-old violations of international law and Palestinian rights, we believe there is an urgent need for international action towards a mandatory, comprehensive military embargo against Israel.

"Such a measure has been subject to several UN resolutions[1] and is similar to the arms embargo imposed against apartheid South Africa in the past.

Now is the time for a military embargo on Israel! | BDSmovement.net

Do you honestly think, Georgie Boy, that countries are going to stop selling military equipment to Israel regardless of how loud you and your Dhimmi friends yell. By the way, Israel manufacturers a lot of its own military equipment. Meanwhile, why don't all you Dhimmis call for a boycott of Israel's technological and medical advances if you are so against Israel? So many products are transshipped from one country to another so we will really never know how many of Israel's products are actually used in the Muslim countries. And I doubt that those countries who invite Israelis in to help them with their agriculture and animal husbandry needs are going to tell the Israelis not to come. I wonder if Georgie Boy, being the humanitarian he wants us to think he is, ever thought of setting up some kind of boycott against the countries who harass and murder people because of their religious beliefs. We could always have the products that are currently made in those countries manufactured instead in Mexico and Central America and even South America. After all, do we really need to buy clothing from a country such as Pakistan where Christians and Hindus are being killed along with the Shiite Muslims by the Sunnis? I am sure that people realize that this BDS group is not bothered with those who kill people because of their religion. They are only interested if Jews are involved..

Did you think countries would stop selling military equipment to your racist brothers in South Africa?
Why did Israel never cease military sales to another apartheid state, shit clumps?

Where did you get the idea human rights aren't routinely violated in Mexico?
Maybe you know why the "Land of the Free" has a larger prison population than any other country on the planet?
To those not hopelessly blinded by an accident of birth, US capitalism is a crime against humanity.

I think we agree about the difficulties of inflicting trade sanctions on a criminal state like Israel.
A better solution would involve banking sanctions, not unlike those your kin in White South Africa faced:

"SWIFT links 8,740 financial institutions in 209 countries. Without access to SWIFT and its interbank payment network, countries are unable either to pay for imports or to receive payment for exports. In short, no payment — no trade."

Terry Crawford-Browne: To end the occupation, cripple Israeli banks | Israeli Occupation Archive

Didn't you already bring up that article, Georgie Boy? Tell us, if capitalism is so bad since it creates jobs for people, where do you think the taxpayers would come from which help pay for your subsidized apartment? Perhaps it would have been better for you to grow up in a communist country so that you could appreciate what you now have here. In fact, there are many ex-Russians living in the Los Angeles area (I believe you will find many of the women sitting in Plummer Park in West Hollywood) whom you could interview to find out which system they like better. I am sure many of you realize that Georgie Boy is stuck on racist South Africa, but never will he mention that the Muslims are killing innocent others in the name of their religion in so many locations. It appears that Georgie Boy has no problem with that because he feels he has more important things to condemn, like capitalism. Murder of innocent people is far down on his list of things to worry about

 

[georgephillip]

In case you've been spending too much time in Plummer Park, US capitalism is currently better at creating jobs in Brazil, India, and China. Finance capitalism is not productive; it's extractive and functions best when it shifts the tax burdens off unearned income and onto labor and consumers. Had wages kept pace with productivity gains over the last 40 years I wouldn't need a subsidized apartment or SSI benefits. BTW, many of those Russians currently living in LA are subsidized by the US government as are you. Obviously you find it impossible to condemn Israel's many crimes against Arabs so you compensate by posting alleged Muslim transgressions in other parts of the world in the USMB Israel-Palestine forum. Why is it you aren't starting threads in other forums criticizing Muslim atrocities in the Gulf States, for example? Are you a "Jew-Firster?"

 

[Hossfly]

In case you've been spending too much time in Plummer Park, US capitalism is currently better at creating jobs in Brazil, India, and China. Finance capitalism is not productive; it's extractive and functions best when it shifts the tax burdens off unearned income and onto labor and consumers. Had wages kept pace with productivity gains over the last 40 years I wouldn't need a subsidized apartment or SSI benefits. BTW, many of those Russians currently living in LA are subsidized by the US government as are you. Obviously you find it impossible to condemn Israel's many crimes against Arabs so you compensate by posting alleged Muslim transgressions in other parts of the world in the USMB Israel-Palestine forum. Why is it you aren't starting threads in other forums criticizing Muslim atrocities in the Gulf States, for example? Are you a "Jew-Firster?"

Just be thankful, Georgie Boy, that the taxpayers aren't complaining about helping you out with a subsidized apartment. Nobody said you couldn't have had a part-time job in addition to a regular job like many people do so that your social security benefits would be bigger today. You have community colleges and occupational centers in your city so why didn't you take advantage of them and learn a trade that would have paid you better? Isn;t Georgie Boy a hoot??? Alleged Muslim transgressions, my foot!!! Are all the newspapers lying about all the Muslim attacks even on each other, Georgie Boy? And, Georgie Boy, much to your despair, the majority of Americans do stick up for Israel. I realize you hate me bringing up what the Muslims are doing to others. These things, in your thinking, should be kept under the cover so to speak and just this constant bashing of Israel should take place as if it was the worse country in the world. And, Georgie Boy, I will think of you each time my military retirement check is sent to my bank account knowing that it kills you that men who have spent years in the military are actually getting something for serving their country, much to your disgust. Oh, while I am thinking about it, there still is some time for you to make some money. Just order this book and follow what he says.

:"Fox and Friends" sat down with self-made millionaire Ramit Sethi to get his tips on becoming a master negotiator. In his book, "I Will Teach You To Be Rich," Sethi says most people go wrong when they simply ask their boss for more money. Instead, plan ahead and claim what you deserve. On his personal blog, Ramit shares his trick for getting the salary you want. He calls it the 'briefcase technique.' His most important piece of advice? Have confidence and you'll be on your way to millions.

 

[georgephillip]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if the rich don't exist in a free world?
Why do you think everyone wants wealth?
That military retirement check you're so proud actually comes from your service to Wall Street.
The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds say thanks, Killer.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

toastman, et al,

Wow, is that what you took away from that?

... ... ...
Yes, I've seen this, and similar videos before; and as a tactical explanation, it expresses the situation quite accurately.
... ... ...
It is time for change. And the quasi-recognition of the Palestinian is a turning point. Israel must understand that it is not the master and slumlord of the Occupied Territories. Or it will be taken away.

Taken away by whom ?

(To the Question)

Israel is losing ground and political support, little by little. Between now, and the year 2030, you will see a decline in the use and effectiveness of political-military hegemonies. The US is already at the point where it can no longer support such adventures. Even the ANA (security forces in general) have lost funding, even in the face of certain distaster.

Thus, Israel will not have the support it once had in the UN, as well as direct links, that it once enjoyed. If the International Community comes to the conclusion that unrestrained Israeli militarism over the Occupied Territories are no longer in the best interest of regional peace, the International Community will gradually place economic pressures on Israel until Israel decides that it is in its own best interest to change.

The US, once the dominant world power, is already gradually losing its clout. Without a coalition, it could not have tackled Iraq or Afghanistan alone, with any residual presence. While it can defeat most military opponents, it cannot stay and be effective beyond the cessation of hostilities. And Israel will find that is the International Community decides to place a military embargo (or take some other similar measure) it will find that it has lost the umbrella in US support it once had; unless it turns the situation around. It may take a while, but gradually, it will happen, just as the US finds itself in the situation that very few nations are now wiling to help it (without cold cash and other tangible compensation).

(To the Point)

The more important point here is that Israel needs to become something other than what it is today. No longer will Israels national defense be the plausible excuse to cover its choices in the Occupied Territories. It will have to make some sacrifices that benefit the region and specifically the Occupied Territories. And these sacrifices must be demonstrated by deeds and actions.

If Israel makes the change, and the Palestinian and Arab World exploit these deeds and actions, or continue their less than peaceful ways, THEN the International Community will once again bring its support back.

To renew Israel support, there has to be a clear "good guy" and a clear "bad guy" in the picture. If both sides are just as bad, the presumption will be that the stronger of the two is also the worst of the two. If Israel is seen to make a sustained and clear sacrifice in making "major improvements" in the Occupied Territories, and the Palestinians then bite the hands, THEN --- the International Community will be able to recognize that the Palestinian is clearly the "bad guy" in the equation.

Israel has painted itself into a corner. But it better do something significant (no marginal half-stepping) or its image with continue to deteriorate for cause.

Most Respectfully,
R

Some photos I Just viewed are a perfect illustration of how Israel is destroying Israel, they are of extremely violent attacks on Palestinians trying to form a village on land Israel has stolen They need to be posted all over the internet and I need to make copies and post them in public places everywhere. We shall open the eyes of all to the beasts Israelis have become as Occupiers of Palestine.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if the rich don't exist in a free world?
Why do you think everyone wants wealth?
That military retirement check you're so proud actually comes from your service to Wall Street.
The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds say thanks, Killer.

It is so revolting to see disclosed this killing mindset we see displayed in so many posts here tonight and not just on this thread. Some of us want to save a life and some just want death and massive death.. What is it that is so appealing in wanting someone to die? I just do not get it, I dont get it.

 

[toastman]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if the rich don't exist in a free world?
Why do you think everyone wants wealth?
That military retirement check you're so proud actually comes from your service to Wall Street.
The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds say thanks, Killer.

It is so revolting to see disclosed this killing mindset we see displayed in so many posts here tonight and not just on this thread. Some of us want to save a life and some just want death and massive death.. What is it that is so appealing in wanting someone to die? I just do not get it, I dont get it.

Why don't you ask a Hamas terrorist that question, you delusional Nazi. Hamas specializes in PROMOTING death to Jews in Israel. Ask him why it's so appealing to kill your self in the name of Allah and Jihad.

 

[irosie91]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if the rich don't exist in a free world?
Why do you think everyone wants wealth?
That military retirement check you're so proud actually comes from your service to Wall Street.
The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds say thanks, Killer.

It is so revolting to see disclosed this killing mindset we see displayed in so many posts here tonight and not just on this thread. Some of us want to save a life and some just want death and massive death.. What is it that is so appealing in wanting someone to die? I just do not get it, I dont get it.

Poor sherri so desperate to push an idiot cause A criminal on a "hunger strike"
for the sake of a "get out of jail free" card-------and she styles her support of the piece
of shit "I AM SO GOOD--- I DOES SEEK TO SAFE A LIFE"
hundreds of thousands (actually millions) languish in the dust dying of starvation ---whilst an idiot criminal simply REFUSES TO EAT
and that piece of shit is her "NOBLE ISA RESPECTING, ARMCHAIR, HOLY,,
SELF RIGHTEOUS CAUSE" why ----for a desperate bid to claim

THE JOOOOOS DID IT

 

[georgephillip]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if the rich don't exist in a free world?
Why do you think everyone wants wealth?
That military retirement check you're so proud actually comes from your service to Wall Street.
The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds say thanks, Killer.

It is so revolting to see disclosed this killing mindset we see displayed in so many posts here tonight and not just on this thread. Some of us want to save a life and some just want death and massive death.. What is it that is so appealing in wanting someone to die? I just do not get it, I dont get it.

You are not seeing the $$$$$$$!
The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds never made that mistake:

"Condition on which the U.S. entered into World War I (when it became clear that France and Britain can't cope with Germany, and Russia can no longer participate in the war) was that Rockefellers' oil empire «Standard Oil of New Jersey» will be allowed to participate in the development of Rothschilds' oil resources of the Middle East."

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general-global-topics/244363-the-great-game-of-rothschild-and-rockefeller.html

Private wealth has ruled every government yet created.
War and debt have been the principal tools.
Nothing changes until we build a wall of separation between government and private fortunes.

 

[irosie91]

I encountered muslims long ago----from foreign lands----One
of the first I knew well told me----the ISLAMIC VIEW of
war----quite proudly he said "THE PURPOSE OF WAR IS
THE ATTAINMENT OF LAND, GOLD, AND WOMEN ----
a teaching from the koran. At that point I had not yet
read the koran----but I did manage to do so shortly thereafter
when a copy of the PICTHALL version fell into my hands.

The person who told me the islamic objective of war----
was a PROUD MOGHUL EMPIRE pusher He saw
no reason why HINDUS should be free of islamic control
in India He was EXTREMELY PROUD of the IMMENSE
wealth of the MOGHUL EMPIRE ---for the record ----pillaged
from hindus.

Long ago I read LOTS-----In the course of my life I stumbled
upon translations of old writings----from TALMUDIC TIMES---that
is what comes of being a baby sitter for all sorts of families.
I read a translation of some traveling talmudic guy who wrote
about his travels to INDIA -----he described immense wealth----but
he as not too crazy about the religion there. That was a writing
from about 2500 years ago.

In the ROME of ----well---the pre christian and early christian era----
the ALL POWERFUL SENATORS -----were simply the people who OWNED
LOTS OF LAND and slaves ------that was the SENATE. Do you idiots
actually believe you are describing THE EVIL USA ? In the ancient
roman system----the PATER FAMILIA ----ie the guy who owned the
household and the land and the slaves-----could legally execute any and
all family members -------slaves, children------I am not sure if he could
legally execute his wives--------but you get the general drift.

want to move further into the islamic system?

 

[georgephillip]

Wouldn't it be a hoot if the rich don't exist in a free world?
Why do you think everyone wants wealth?
That military retirement check you're so proud actually comes from your service to Wall Street.
The Rockefellers and the Rothschilds say thanks, Killer.

It is so revolting to see disclosed this killing mindset we see displayed in so many posts here tonight and not just on this thread. Some of us want to save a life and some just want death and massive death.. What is it that is so appealing in wanting someone to die? I just do not get it, I dont get it.

Why don't you ask a Hamas terrorist that question, you delusional Nazi. Hamas specializes in PROMOTING death to Jews in Israel. Ask him why it's so appealing to kill your self in the name of Allah and Jihad.

Wrong question, Tojo.

Ask what level of desperation drives a human, being just like you, to strap a bomb to themselves in order to fight back against a policy of "creeping annexation" that was set in place decades before 650,000 Jews inflicted a kosher state on 1.2 million Arabs and others in 1948.

It's called self-defense, but there's an obvious contradiction involved when defending yourself requires suicide. Maybe you should be asking who's getting rich (Jew, Muslim, and Christian) from states like Israel and groups like Hamas? (It's not the families of suicide bombers or their victims)

 

[irosie91]

It is so revolting to see disclosed this killing mindset we see displayed in so many posts here tonight and not just on this thread. Some of us want to save a life and some just want death and massive death.. What is it that is so appealing in wanting someone to die? I just do not get it, I dont get it.

Why don't you ask a Hamas terrorist that question, you delusional Nazi. Hamas specializes in PROMOTING death to Jews in Israel. Ask him why it's so appealing to kill your self in the name of Allah and Jihad.

Wrong question, Tojo.

Ask what level of desperation drives a human, being just like you, to strap a bomb to
themselves in order to fight back against a policy of "creeping annexation" that was set in place decades before 650,000 Jews inflicted a kosher state on 1.2 million Arabs and others in 1948.

It's called self-defense, but there's an obvious contradiction involved when defending yourself requires suicide. Maybe you should be asking who's getting rich (Jew, Muslim, and


Christian) from states like Israel and groups like Hamas? (It's not the families of suicide bombers or their victims)

Not surprisingly----sherri endorsed the idiot comment of georgie ---both of whom
PREFER to ignore the fact that islamo nazis in MANY places are engaging in bomb
on ass suicide operations -----probably---in terms of NUMBERS OF WHORE ASS
BOMBERS-----more ELSEWHERE than in Israel or upon jews. Suicide is VERY VERY
prevalent ---especially in young adults ---WORLD WIDE Any ideologue
who wishes to use SUICIDE OPERATIVES would have no problem getting them
once he convinces them that for so engaging they get ETERNAL ORGIASTIC
BLISS-------a POSTUHMOUS REPUTATION AS A SAINT ------and the family gets money
and presitige and finally says -----well "mustafa or fatima was not such a jerk afterall"
As a putative lawyer----sherri should have some grasp on the issue of suicide and
its remarkable prevalence Imagine the options of suicidal gazan girl has----
she could either pour gasoline on herself and light a match----and die in agony----or
she can TIE A BOMB TO HER ASS and go out in an instant IN GLORY---just
like her SISTER bomb on ass whores in Iraq and ---even in Pakistan

 

[irosie91]

Samer is playing his game for HIMSELF his sense of self importance which
is that which drove him to his terrorist crimes to begin with----the GLORY OF
MURDER IN THE NAME OF ALLAH/ISA not a new idea --not a new motive
---a very selfish act