“What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?”

[Rustic]

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

There is no compromise because you guys want to ban and confiscate guns..... you will do this one law, one prohibition at a time until there is nothing left..... you guys just made the leap from "ban assault rifles" to "ban all semi automatic weapons" which means you want to ban every semi automatic rifle, pistol, revolver, and shotgun.....which is the majority of all guns owned by Americans.....

You were just stupid enough to say it out loud, in front of television cameras....

Daryl is a silly ol’ coot, he’s an FDR control freak type.
He does what the collective instruction him to do...

Speaking of FDR. Do you know why he and congress were forced to do the New Deal? The Uber Rich ran the country into the ground. The Middle Class and below found themselves without jobs, money to buy food, clothing, heat and they were out on the street because their homes were lost. But one thing they did have was guns. Had there been places where they could have sold their guns for food, they would have sold them. But there weren't any. No one had any money. The US was right on the brink of an armed Revolution. FDR and Congress did what it had to do to buy time until something came along to turn things around. It wasn't the New Deal that turned things around. It was WWII. And at that point, FDR and Congress took control over the Corporations and even small businesses for the War Effort. Without that, Germany, Japan and Italy would have run roughshod over the entire world.

Guess what, the Uber Rich is in the process of running the bulk of the country back into the ground once again. Those regulations that were put into place to prevent it from happening have all but been removed and we are headed the same way. They use shills like you to try and make us look at other places so that we won't notice. Oh, we notice and know that the repair is getting the jobs back into the neighborhoods, increase the support for cops. Simple as that. But the Uber Rich won't make nearly as much money in the short term as they think they should. But it would be the American thing to do.

So basically the friend of my enemy is my friend is what you’re saying. Woodrow Wilson/Theodore Roosevelt/FDR set the table for an overbearing corrupt federal government/deep state we are experiencing.
Social entitlement programs are 100 times worse than what was happening in
The 20’s... At least they had some sort of freedom back then, the same cannot be said about now. Unfortunately
Basically your hero the dictator that is FDR, Thought it was OK to tax some people up to one hundred percent of their own income...
The road to hell is paved but good intentions… I know it’s an old saying but it’s very true…

Calvin Coolidge was our last great conservative president…

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Then you have never been under fire. Big talk for a chairwarrior.

I never spent 5 years on a Special Forces Operational Detachment "Alpha" Team.
I was never in Moghadishu Somalia in 93' getting shot at by 'Skinnies' belonging to Tribal Leader Mohamed Farid Aideed.
I never was deployed on a JSOTF (Joint Special Operations Task Force) under UNISOM.
I never trained foreign troops how to fight.
Never.

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

There is no compromise because you guys want to ban and confiscate guns..... you will do this one law, one prohibition at a time until there is nothing left..... you guys just made the leap from "ban assault rifles" to "ban all semi automatic weapons" which means you want to ban every semi automatic rifle, pistol, revolver, and shotgun.....which is the majority of all guns owned by Americans.....

You were just stupid enough to say it out loud, in front of television cameras....

Wow, do you mean the last time I was in front of a TV Camera I said those things? I was 16 years old at the time and it was at a knowledge competition of PBS. I don't recall any of this coming up. You can stop lying anytime now. Yes, I know it's your right to lie your ass off but please keep it down to a dull roar.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

There is no compromise because you guys want to ban and confiscate guns..... you will do this one law, one prohibition at a time until there is nothing left..... you guys just made the leap from "ban assault rifles" to "ban all semi automatic weapons" which means you want to ban every semi automatic rifle, pistol, revolver, and shotgun.....which is the majority of all guns owned by Americans.....

You were just stupid enough to say it out loud, in front of television cameras....

Daryl is a silly ol’ coot, he’s an FDR control freak type.
He does what the collective instruction him to do...

Speaking of FDR. Do you know why he and congress were forced to do the New Deal? The Uber Rich ran the country into the ground. The Middle Class and below found themselves without jobs, money to buy food, clothing, heat and they were out on the street because their homes were lost. But one thing they did have was guns. Had there been places where they could have sold their guns for food, they would have sold them. But there weren't any. No one had any money. The US was right on the brink of an armed Revolution. FDR and Congress did what it had to do to buy time until something came along to turn things around. It wasn't the New Deal that turned things around. It was WWII. And at that point, FDR and Congress took control over the Corporations and even small businesses for the War Effort. Without that, Germany, Japan and Italy would have run roughshod over the entire world.

Guess what, the Uber Rich is in the process of running the bulk of the country back into the ground once again. Those regulations that were put into place to prevent it from happening have all but been removed and we are headed the same way. They use shills like you to try and make us look at other places so that we won't notice. Oh, we notice and know that the repair is getting the jobs back into the neighborhoods, increase the support for cops. Simple as that. But the Uber Rich won't make nearly as much money in the short term as they think they should. But it would be the American thing to do.

So basically the friend of my enemy is my friend is what you’re saying. Woodrow Wilson/Theodore Roosevelt/FDR set the table for an overbearing corrupt federal government/deep state we are experiencing.
Social entitlement programs are 100 times worse than what was happening in
The 20’s... At least they had some sort of freedom back then, the same cannot be said about now. Unfortunately
Basically your hero the dictator that is FDR, Thought it was OK to tax some people up to one hundred percent of their own income...
The road to hell is paved but good intentions… I know it’s an old saying but it’s very true…

Calvin Coolidge was our last great conservative president…

I have to agree that Coolidge did a very good job. The only black mark on him would be he promoted Harding to the point that Harding became the next President. And Harding owns the Depression Lock Stock and Barrel.

 

[jbander]

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


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Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

Really, I can carry a loaded gun in my vehicle without a permit, I can carry a gun on my person, concealed or open, with a permit which I have. So tell me child, what is there to grumble about? The only whiny little bitch I see around here is you.


.

So can I. What's your point. I can do so not by the grace of God bu by the grace of the "State". Other states don't give that grace. You spend all your time harping about the Feds. But you seem to want to get in other states faces. If you want to change things in the other states, move there and make a difference there. I have made a difference here.

All States have agreed to the 2nd, what part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" do you not understand? The feds are there to protect our rights, not try to find ways to limit or eliminate them.

BTW, why haven't you answered my question about the defensive uses of guns saving lives? Using your logic, if it saves one life it's worth those folks having firearms, right?


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Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.

 

[jbander]

There is no compromise because you guys want to ban and confiscate guns..... you will do this one law, one prohibition at a time until there is nothing left..... you guys just made the leap from "ban assault rifles" to "ban all semi automatic weapons" which means you want to ban every semi automatic rifle, pistol, revolver, and shotgun.....which is the majority of all guns owned by Americans.....

You were just stupid enough to say it out loud, in front of television cameras....

Daryl is a silly ol’ coot, he’s an FDR control freak type.
He does what the collective instruction him to do...

Speaking of FDR. Do you know why he and congress were forced to do the New Deal? The Uber Rich ran the country into the ground. The Middle Class and below found themselves without jobs, money to buy food, clothing, heat and they were out on the street because their homes were lost. But one thing they did have was guns. Had there been places where they could have sold their guns for food, they would have sold them. But there weren't any. No one had any money. The US was right on the brink of an armed Revolution. FDR and Congress did what it had to do to buy time until something came along to turn things around. It wasn't the New Deal that turned things around. It was WWII. And at that point, FDR and Congress took control over the Corporations and even small businesses for the War Effort. Without that, Germany, Japan and Italy would have run roughshod over the entire world.

Guess what, the Uber Rich is in the process of running the bulk of the country back into the ground once again. Those regulations that were put into place to prevent it from happening have all but been removed and we are headed the same way. They use shills like you to try and make us look at other places so that we won't notice. Oh, we notice and know that the repair is getting the jobs back into the neighborhoods, increase the support for cops. Simple as that. But the Uber Rich won't make nearly as much money in the short term as they think they should. But it would be the American thing to do.

No....there was a depression.....and FDR used that to destroy the economy by taking over large parts of it....had FDR not meddeled with the economy, the depression would have been over much faster......

You have no idea what you are talking about.

And what caused the Depression? There was just a recession until the Uber Rich were nailed by it then it became a Depression. If you are so smart, what's the difference and why is it almost impossible to have a Depression today but we can have many recessions. We are in one right now.

The way out of a recession is not government taking over....a worse depression happened in 1920....but it didn't last because they didn't try to take over the economy...

Not-So-Great Depression

hich U.S. president ranks as America’s greatest depression fighter?

Not the fabled Franklin Delano Roosevelt, since unemployment averaged 17 percent through the New Deal period (1933-1940). What banished high unemployment was the conscription of 12 million men into the armed forces during World War II. FDR actually prolonged high unemployment: he tripled taxes; he signed laws that made it more expensive for employers to hire people, made discounting illegal, and authorized the destruction of food; and he launched costly infrastructure projects like the Tennessee Valley Authority that became a drag on states receiving TVA-subsidized electricity.

America’s greatest depression fighter was Warren Gamaliel Harding. An Ohio senator when he was elected president in 1920, he followed the much praised Woodrow Wilson— who had brought America into World War I, built up huge federal bureaucracies, imprisoned dissenters, and incurred $25 billion of debt.

Harding inherited Wilson’s mess— in particular, a post-World War I depression that was almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933 that FDR would later inherit. The estimated gross national product plunged 24 percent from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million to 4.9 million.

Harding had a much better understanding of how an economy works than FDR. As historian Robert K. Murray wrote in The Harding Era, the man who would become our 29th president “always decried high taxes, government waste, and excessive governmental interference in the private sector of the economy. In February 1920, shortly after announcing his candidacy, he advocated a cut in government expenditures and stated that government ought to ‘strike the shackles from industry… . We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation.’ “

One of Harding’s campaign slogans was “less government in business,” and it served him well. Harding embraced the advice of Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon and called for tax cuts in his first message to Congress on April 12, 1921. The highest taxes, on corporate revenues and “excess” profits, were to be cut. Personal income taxes were to be left as is, with a top rate of 8 percent of incomes above $4,000. Harding recognized the crucial importance of encouraging the investment that is essential for growth and jobs, something that FDR never did.

Logic isn't one of your better suits is it. You don't know how any type of economic disaster could or would end if it didn't have something incorporated into the scenario,THE WORD IS DIDN'T . your have me rolling on the floor. i BET YOU WON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THIS MEANS.

 

[jbander]

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

There is no compromise because you guys want to ban and confiscate guns..... you will do this one law, one prohibition at a time until there is nothing left..... you guys just made the leap from "ban assault rifles" to "ban all semi automatic weapons" which means you want to ban every semi automatic rifle, pistol, revolver, and shotgun.....which is the majority of all guns owned by Americans.....

You were just stupid enough to say it out loud, in front of television cameras....

Daryl is a silly ol’ coot, he’s an FDR control freak type.
He does what the collective instruction him to do...

Speaking of FDR. Do you know why he and congress were forced to do the New Deal? The Uber Rich ran the country into the ground. The Middle Class and below found themselves without jobs, money to buy food, clothing, heat and they were out on the street because their homes were lost. But one thing they did have was guns. Had there been places where they could have sold their guns for food, they would have sold them. But there weren't any. No one had any money. The US was right on the brink of an armed Revolution. FDR and Congress did what it had to do to buy time until something came along to turn things around. It wasn't the New Deal that turned things around. It was WWII. And at that point, FDR and Congress took control over the Corporations and even small businesses for the War Effort. Without that, Germany, Japan and Italy would have run roughshod over the entire world.

Guess what, the Uber Rich is in the process of running the bulk of the country back into the ground once again. Those regulations that were put into place to prevent it from happening have all but been removed and we are headed the same way. They use shills like you to try and make us look at other places so that we won't notice. Oh, we notice and know that the repair is getting the jobs back into the neighborhoods, increase the support for cops. Simple as that. But the Uber Rich won't make nearly as much money in the short term as they think they should. But it would be the American thing to do.

So basically the friend of my enemy is my friend is what you’re saying. Woodrow Wilson/Theodore Roosevelt/FDR set the table for an overbearing corrupt federal government/deep state we are experiencing.
Social entitlement programs are 100 times worse than what was happening in
The 20’s... At least they had some sort of freedom back then, the same cannot be said about now. Unfortunately
Basically your hero the dictator that is FDR, Thought it was OK to tax some people up to one hundred percent of their own income...
The road to hell is paved but good intentions… I know it’s an old saying but it’s very true…

Calvin Coolidge was our last great conservative president…

CALVIN COOLIDGE, HE'S ALL YOURS lIKE THIS SCUM BAG YOU HAVE NOW IS ALL YOURS.

 

[jbander]

Heres Gun Bubba magic for you , they say the more guns the less people die by guns , but we all know that with only 100,000 guns there would be way less deaths by gun, and we know that with 10,000 guns there will be way less deaths by guns and we know that with 1000 guns there will be less deaths by guns, and we know with no guns there will be NO death by guns, OK Gun bubbas , tell me how the impossible is possible in your eyes. Again You won't even understand this . but it's big fun for me , making fools out of you gun Bubbas

 

[Pilot1]

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Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.[/QUOTE]

And has that stopped murder by PEOPLE using guns in those eight states? It is YOU that doesn't have a clue about yet more gun laws, and how stupid they are. People now want to ban ALL semi auto firearms! Sick!

 

[OKTexas]

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


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Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

Really, I can carry a loaded gun in my vehicle without a permit, I can carry a gun on my person, concealed or open, with a permit which I have. So tell me child, what is there to grumble about? The only whiny little bitch I see around here is you.


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So can I. What's your point. I can do so not by the grace of God bu by the grace of the "State". Other states don't give that grace. You spend all your time harping about the Feds. But you seem to want to get in other states faces. If you want to change things in the other states, move there and make a difference there. I have made a difference here.

All States have agreed to the 2nd, what part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" do you not understand? The feds are there to protect our rights, not try to find ways to limit or eliminate them.

BTW, why haven't you answered my question about the defensive uses of guns saving lives? Using your logic, if it saves one life it's worth those folks having firearms, right?


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Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.

Banned, really? Tell me, who's collecting all this contraband?


.

 

[jbander]

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Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.

And has that stopped murder by PEOPLE using guns in those eight states? It is YOU that doesn't have a clue about yet more gun laws, and how stupid they are. People now want to ban ALL semi auto firearms! Sick![/QUOTE] I know for a fact that one less gun takes away one part of the arsonal to massacre their neighbors and their kids in school. I believe there should be the right to own guns but there should be a Gun Bubbas test , so none of those wackos get to own a gun. It's them or their kids that are big on the shoot em ups. With their hamburger makes they buy to let people know what a stud they are.

 

[jbander]

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Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.

And has that stopped murder by PEOPLE using guns in those eight states? It is YOU that doesn't have a clue about yet more gun laws, and how stupid they are. People now want to ban ALL semi auto firearms! Sick!

I know for a fact that one less gun takes away one part of the arsonal to massacre their neighbors and their kids in school. I believe there should be the right to own guns but there should be a Gun Bubbas test , so none of those wackos get to own a gun. It's them or their kids that are big on the shoot em ups. With their hamburger makes they buy to let people know what a stud they are.[/QUOTE] I alway love the comment " and people want to ban all weapons ", well and people want to force everyone to own a assault weapon , or a gun, or a atomic bomb, why haven't you heard that there are people who want to do that. You want dumb. Its all around you.

 

[Rustic]

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


.

Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

Really, I can carry a loaded gun in my vehicle without a permit, I can carry a gun on my person, concealed or open, with a permit which I have. So tell me child, what is there to grumble about? The only whiny little bitch I see around here is you.


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So can I. What's your point. I can do so not by the grace of God bu by the grace of the "State". Other states don't give that grace. You spend all your time harping about the Feds. But you seem to want to get in other states faces. If you want to change things in the other states, move there and make a difference there. I have made a difference here.

All States have agreed to the 2nd, what part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" do you not understand? The feds are there to protect our rights, not try to find ways to limit or eliminate them.

BTW, why haven't you answered my question about the defensive uses of guns saving lives? Using your logic, if it saves one life it's worth those folks having firearms, right?


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Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.

AR15s are just sporting rifles, anyway those places you speak of are still plagued the country’s highest rate of violence.
Firearms have no control over people most people learn and understand that in middle school or grade school.

 

[Rustic]

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Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.

And has that stopped murder by PEOPLE using guns in those eight states? It is YOU that doesn't have a clue about yet more gun laws, and how stupid they are. People now want to ban ALL semi auto firearms! Sick!

I know for a fact that one less gun takes away one part of the arsonal to massacre their neighbors and their kids in school. I believe there should be the right to own guns but there should be a Gun Bubbas test , so none of those wackos get to own a gun. It's them or their kids that are big on the shoot em ups. With their hamburger makes they buy to let people know what a stud they are.

I alway love the comment " and people want to ban all weapons ", well and people want to force everyone to own a assault weapon , or a gun, or a atomic bomb, why haven't you heard that there are people who want to do that. You want dumb. Its all around you.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully you don’t get a say on the matter, in the time you made your little post there... multiple ar15 sporting rifles were just sold... lol

 

[justinacolmena]

very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

I used to own such a firearm, but I was banned and put on the federal "prohibited persons" list by the government.

Thankfully you don’t get a say on the matter, in the time you made your little post there... multiple ar15 sporting rifles were just sold... lol

As a "prohibited person" I have lost the privilege to own such a weapon without risking fines and 10 years' imprisonment. They would impose consecutive 10-year sentences for each round of ammunition in my possession. That's 500 years in federal prison for a 50-round box of ammo, never mind the gun. Reloading equipment is considered "paraphernalia" and that's an aggravating factor in the crime. I would also be charged with a felony for "associating" with anyone who owns or uses firearms, so I cannot even legally join the NRA or similar organization.

No, I am not a "convicted felon," and I have not been convicted of a domestic violence-related misdemeanor, or renounced my U.S. citizenship, or been dishonorably dischaged from the military, or any of that stuff.

The government just arbitrarily decided to have me adjudicated as a mental defective, (yes, note the indefinite article to that legal term,) and ban me for life without recourse from possessing a firearm, or working at any sort of employment for which a background check is required.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Speaking of FDR. Do you know why he and congress were forced to do the New Deal? The Uber Rich ran the country into the ground. The Middle Class and below found themselves without jobs, money to buy food, clothing, heat and they were out on the street because their homes were lost. But one thing they did have was guns. Had there been places where they could have sold their guns for food, they would have sold them. But there weren't any. No one had any money. The US was right on the brink of an armed Revolution. FDR and Congress did what it had to do to buy time until something came along to turn things around. It wasn't the New Deal that turned things around. It was WWII. And at that point, FDR and Congress took control over the Corporations and even small businesses for the War Effort. Without that, Germany, Japan and Italy would have run roughshod over the entire world.

Guess what, the Uber Rich is in the process of running the bulk of the country back into the ground once again. Those regulations that were put into place to prevent it from happening have all but been removed and we are headed the same way. They use shills like you to try and make us look at other places so that we won't notice. Oh, we notice and know that the repair is getting the jobs back into the neighborhoods, increase the support for cops. Simple as that. But the Uber Rich won't make nearly as much money in the short term as they think they should. But it would be the American thing to do.

No....there was a depression.....and FDR used that to destroy the economy by taking over large parts of it....had FDR not meddeled with the economy, the depression would have been over much faster......

You have no idea what you are talking about.

And what caused the Depression? There was just a recession until the Uber Rich were nailed by it then it became a Depression. If you are so smart, what's the difference and why is it almost impossible to have a Depression today but we can have many recessions. We are in one right now.

The way out of a recession is not government taking over....a worse depression happened in 1920....but it didn't last because they didn't try to take over the economy...

Not-So-Great Depression

hich U.S. president ranks as America’s greatest depression fighter?

Not the fabled Franklin Delano Roosevelt, since unemployment averaged 17 percent through the New Deal period (1933-1940). What banished high unemployment was the conscription of 12 million men into the armed forces during World War II. FDR actually prolonged high unemployment: he tripled taxes; he signed laws that made it more expensive for employers to hire people, made discounting illegal, and authorized the destruction of food; and he launched costly infrastructure projects like the Tennessee Valley Authority that became a drag on states receiving TVA-subsidized electricity.

America’s greatest depression fighter was Warren Gamaliel Harding. An Ohio senator when he was elected president in 1920, he followed the much praised Woodrow Wilson— who had brought America into World War I, built up huge federal bureaucracies, imprisoned dissenters, and incurred $25 billion of debt.

Harding inherited Wilson’s mess— in particular, a post-World War I depression that was almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933 that FDR would later inherit. The estimated gross national product plunged 24 percent from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million to 4.9 million.

Harding had a much better understanding of how an economy works than FDR. As historian Robert K. Murray wrote in The Harding Era, the man who would become our 29th president “always decried high taxes, government waste, and excessive governmental interference in the private sector of the economy. In February 1920, shortly after announcing his candidacy, he advocated a cut in government expenditures and stated that government ought to ‘strike the shackles from industry… . We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation.’ “

One of Harding’s campaign slogans was “less government in business,” and it served him well. Harding embraced the advice of Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon and called for tax cuts in his first message to Congress on April 12, 1921. The highest taxes, on corporate revenues and “excess” profits, were to be cut. Personal income taxes were to be left as is, with a top rate of 8 percent of incomes above $4,000. Harding recognized the crucial importance of encouraging the investment that is essential for growth and jobs, something that FDR never did.

Even without Harding, there was going to be no Depression. All he did was stop Federal Frivolous spending. Not a bad idea. The Nation was on a huge upswing without him anyway. Well, at least for white America anyway. WWI had ended and the Nation had to pay for it. Harding decided to get Congress to fund paying for it and not pay for the excesses. He wasn't really in office long enough to make any other difference though. He died too quick to make much of a dent. But right after that, the Frivolous Spending by the Corporations buried them in such a way that they could no longer stay afloat. Partly brought on by the reduction by Hardings getting rid of a lot of protection regulations that held them down. Teddy R. (a Republican) put many of those in place to prevent the runaway that happened anyway which started under Wilson and continued under Harding. But the real culprit was Hoover that saw a depression, caused a huge trade deficit and brought on the depression and the Crash of 1929 which destroyed many of the Uber Rich because of the trade deficit being out of control. FDR just stepped into that mess. FDR wasn't elected until 1933. The Depression belongs to Hoover and earlier Presidents. The 2 previous Presidents that actually caused the Depression were all Republicans. The recession was actually started in about 1925 but didn't become a depression until 1929 when your buddy Hoover made a huge mess of things with his tariff ideas. So don't go laying things on FDR. He was faced with an Armed Revolution by about 3 1/2 million armed hungry, cold and angry family men when he took office. The Nation was at stake right then.

FDR was nothing but a dictator, bring in unconstitutional things like income tax and socialist entitlement programs...

You blew it once again. There WAS income tax but on the top 2%. Before that, there was a tax on what was called Luxury items. Before that, there was a tax on Spirits. Since the Nation was Formed there always has been a Federal Tax of one form or another. Geez, please use that head for something other than something to hold up a hat.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

Really, I can carry a loaded gun in my vehicle without a permit, I can carry a gun on my person, concealed or open, with a permit which I have. So tell me child, what is there to grumble about? The only whiny little bitch I see around here is you.


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So can I. What's your point. I can do so not by the grace of God bu by the grace of the "State". Other states don't give that grace. You spend all your time harping about the Feds. But you seem to want to get in other states faces. If you want to change things in the other states, move there and make a difference there. I have made a difference here.

All States have agreed to the 2nd, what part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" do you not understand? The feds are there to protect our rights, not try to find ways to limit or eliminate them.

BTW, why haven't you answered my question about the defensive uses of guns saving lives? Using your logic, if it saves one life it's worth those folks having firearms, right?


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Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.

AR15s are just sporting rifles, anyway those places you speak of are still plagued the country’s highest rate of violence.
Firearms have no control over people most people learn and understand that in middle school or grade school.

1. A Sporting Rifle doesn't have the need for rails to accept a M-203 Grenade Launcher. Or a Silencer or a Bayonet or a.......... Like we did in Colorado, remove the ability to mount those and then, and only then, can you call it a sporting rifle. Until then, it's an assault rifle that can also be used as a sporting rifle.

2. I already told you what we need to do to get the crime and murder level down. But, no, you won't even consider it. Your 1% that you pray to would never go for it. They moved the jobs out of those areas and didn't replace them with other jobs so the people turned to the only other way to make a living they could and that was crime and public assistance. And, no, they didn't have the option to move. They didn't have the funds to relocate and even if they did, there were no jobs waiting for them anyway. When the jobs were finally available in alternative locations, they could not afford to relocate anyway. The buildings are still there for the Factories, the work force is still there. Yes, it would have be rebuilt and retrained but that USED to be part of running a business. Not so these days. Long term investments gave way for Bottom Line short term.

 

[Rustic]

No....there was a depression.....and FDR used that to destroy the economy by taking over large parts of it....had FDR not meddeled with the economy, the depression would have been over much faster......

You have no idea what you are talking about.

And what caused the Depression? There was just a recession until the Uber Rich were nailed by it then it became a Depression. If you are so smart, what's the difference and why is it almost impossible to have a Depression today but we can have many recessions. We are in one right now.

The way out of a recession is not government taking over....a worse depression happened in 1920....but it didn't last because they didn't try to take over the economy...

Not-So-Great Depression

hich U.S. president ranks as America’s greatest depression fighter?

Not the fabled Franklin Delano Roosevelt, since unemployment averaged 17 percent through the New Deal period (1933-1940). What banished high unemployment was the conscription of 12 million men into the armed forces during World War II. FDR actually prolonged high unemployment: he tripled taxes; he signed laws that made it more expensive for employers to hire people, made discounting illegal, and authorized the destruction of food; and he launched costly infrastructure projects like the Tennessee Valley Authority that became a drag on states receiving TVA-subsidized electricity.

America’s greatest depression fighter was Warren Gamaliel Harding. An Ohio senator when he was elected president in 1920, he followed the much praised Woodrow Wilson— who had brought America into World War I, built up huge federal bureaucracies, imprisoned dissenters, and incurred $25 billion of debt.

Harding inherited Wilson’s mess— in particular, a post-World War I depression that was almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933 that FDR would later inherit. The estimated gross national product plunged 24 percent from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million to 4.9 million.

Harding had a much better understanding of how an economy works than FDR. As historian Robert K. Murray wrote in The Harding Era, the man who would become our 29th president “always decried high taxes, government waste, and excessive governmental interference in the private sector of the economy. In February 1920, shortly after announcing his candidacy, he advocated a cut in government expenditures and stated that government ought to ‘strike the shackles from industry… . We need vastly more freedom than we do regulation.’ “

One of Harding’s campaign slogans was “less government in business,” and it served him well. Harding embraced the advice of Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon and called for tax cuts in his first message to Congress on April 12, 1921. The highest taxes, on corporate revenues and “excess” profits, were to be cut. Personal income taxes were to be left as is, with a top rate of 8 percent of incomes above $4,000. Harding recognized the crucial importance of encouraging the investment that is essential for growth and jobs, something that FDR never did.

Even without Harding, there was going to be no Depression. All he did was stop Federal Frivolous spending. Not a bad idea. The Nation was on a huge upswing without him anyway. Well, at least for white America anyway. WWI had ended and the Nation had to pay for it. Harding decided to get Congress to fund paying for it and not pay for the excesses. He wasn't really in office long enough to make any other difference though. He died too quick to make much of a dent. But right after that, the Frivolous Spending by the Corporations buried them in such a way that they could no longer stay afloat. Partly brought on by the reduction by Hardings getting rid of a lot of protection regulations that held them down. Teddy R. (a Republican) put many of those in place to prevent the runaway that happened anyway which started under Wilson and continued under Harding. But the real culprit was Hoover that saw a depression, caused a huge trade deficit and brought on the depression and the Crash of 1929 which destroyed many of the Uber Rich because of the trade deficit being out of control. FDR just stepped into that mess. FDR wasn't elected until 1933. The Depression belongs to Hoover and earlier Presidents. The 2 previous Presidents that actually caused the Depression were all Republicans. The recession was actually started in about 1925 but didn't become a depression until 1929 when your buddy Hoover made a huge mess of things with his tariff ideas. So don't go laying things on FDR. He was faced with an Armed Revolution by about 3 1/2 million armed hungry, cold and angry family men when he took office. The Nation was at stake right then.

FDR was nothing but a dictator, bring in unconstitutional things like income tax and socialist entitlement programs...

You blew it once again. There WAS income tax but on the top 2%. Before that, there was a tax on what was called Luxury items. Before that, there was a tax on Spirits. Since the Nation was Formed there always has been a Federal Tax of one form or another. Geez, please use that head for something other than something to hold up a hat.

Not to the extent FDR did, and now we have a plague of unjust taxation to deal with, thanks to the new deal and its socialist entitlement programs...

 

[Rustic]

Really, I can carry a loaded gun in my vehicle without a permit, I can carry a gun on my person, concealed or open, with a permit which I have. So tell me child, what is there to grumble about? The only whiny little bitch I see around here is you.


.

So can I. What's your point. I can do so not by the grace of God bu by the grace of the "State". Other states don't give that grace. You spend all your time harping about the Feds. But you seem to want to get in other states faces. If you want to change things in the other states, move there and make a difference there. I have made a difference here.

All States have agreed to the 2nd, what part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" do you not understand? The feds are there to protect our rights, not try to find ways to limit or eliminate them.

BTW, why haven't you answered my question about the defensive uses of guns saving lives? Using your logic, if it saves one life it's worth those folks having firearms, right?


.

Bullcrap ,nothing but ,8 states have banned your hamburger maker guns and multiple cities have also. You people have no clue.

AR15s are just sporting rifles, anyway those places you speak of are still plagued the country’s highest rate of violence.
Firearms have no control over people most people learn and understand that in middle school or grade school.

1. A Sporting Rifle doesn't have the need for rails to accept a M-203 Grenade Launcher. Or a Silencer or a Bayonet or a.......... Like we did in Colorado, remove the ability to mount those and then, and only then, can you call it a sporting rifle. Until then, it's an assault rifle that can also be used as a sporting rifle.

2. I already told you what we need to do to get the crime and murder level down. But, no, you won't even consider it. Your 1% that you pray to would never go for it. They moved the jobs out of those areas and didn't replace them with other jobs so the people turned to the only other way to make a living they could and that was crime and public assistance. And, no, they didn't have the option to move. They didn't have the funds to relocate and even if they did, there were no jobs waiting for them anyway. When the jobs were finally available in alternative locations, they could not afford to relocate anyway. The buildings are still there for the Factories, the work force is still there. Yes, it would have be rebuilt and retrained but that USED to be part of running a business. Not so these days. Long term investments gave way for Bottom Line short term.

An ar15 is just a sporting rifle no matter what kind of lipstick you put on it...

 

[Flash]

I have 26 AR-15s.

I have never committed a crime with any of them.

Never plan to commit a crime with any of them.

But yet the despicable Moon Bats want to take them away from and the tens of millions of other AR-15 owners that have never committed a crime or will ever commit a crime.

Assholes, aren't they?

 

[MaryL]

"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100.........
110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

.How many people are killed in Pontiacs? But say, all other automobiles get off the hook? What difference does it make?