“What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?”

[Rustic]

Excellent post. And I might add that there is no evidence that those 27%, even if an AR style weapon was banned, would not simply use a different weapon to accomplish their goal. The body count in some cases may have been slightly lower, but of course, in others they might have been slightly higher. It is after all, complete speculation.

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

See that’s the problem with progressives they never read anything in the context of the era, they’re stupid in that way.

There’s a reason why anti-gun nutters like Darrell hunt want to get rid of the Second Amendment… pure Socialism cannot exist with it.
The second amendment is the backbone of our Constitution, the First Amendment is grateful for it…

 

[jbander]

The correct question to ask is what percentage of mass-shootings is done with an assault weapon.

Zero

The term "Assault weapon" is a media invention.

Did you know that most mass shootings were domestic or family violence? Analysis of Mass Shootings

Only 27% of mass shooters used an AR-15. Most used handguns. Reality Check: Most Mass Shooters Use Handguns, Not AR-15s

Excellent post. And I might add that there is no evidence that those 27%, even if an AR style weapon was banned, would not simply use a different weapon to accomplish their goal. The body count in some cases may have been slightly lower, but of course, in others they might have been slightly higher. It is after all, complete speculation.

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

a 1 string puppet mind that is controlled by lies. You people are in trouble.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

I get a kick out of these mentally deprived Ideas , that the party that is run as a dictatorship is talking about the other party taking away their freedom through something as stupid as regulating guns.

I don't see that as a problem, Pop. In fact, I have no longer a need for, or desire to own, any of the 5 firearms in my house, and if I could get rid of them safely, I would probably sleep better only because there would be less reason for someone break in to steal them. I feel reasonably certain that I will never have to use them to fight off the black helicopters.

Getting rid of guns safely really isn't an issue, unless of course you have a fear of taking them into a police station and surrendering them.

Now I get it, you're afraid one might go off and kill you while getting them to the station?

Fear not, you have a far greater chance of dying on that Motorscooter than dying from an accidental gun discharge, which is somewhere in the area of 1.55 in 300,000,000 of happining.

I have the perfect way to prevent anyone from dying on a MotorScooter. Don't ride it in the first place. Same goes for an accidental discharge from a gun in your home. The only safe way to prevent that is to not have it in the first place. If you are afraid of a toaster electrocuting you don't own a toaster. Your logic on this one is illogical. And the only reason for it is that you want to sell more guns and make more profits. No wonder you don't want any gun laws. There just might be a market still in arming the 5 year olds.

It wasn't about the deadly tool, it was about the paranoia.

Why would anyone be paranoid about something that happens 1.55 in 300,000,000, but not about something with far greater odds.

The answer is that it is disingenuous to say one thing is so frightening that it should be banned, especially with such long odds, yet you willingly participate in something with far better odds that it will kill you.

But I think you already knew that.

If one needless death can be absolutely prevented then it should be prevented. A life is more important than your paranoia. But I guess it pays to be paranoid when they really are out to get you. Why that line must be completely around the block.

So how many lives are saved by the 1.5 million defensive gun uses per year, are they worth nothing to you? Come on child, let's see if you have an intellectually honest bone in you feeble body.


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[Daryl Hunt]

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

See that’s the problem with progressives they never read anything in the context of the era, they’re stupid in that way.

There’s a reason why anti-gun nutters like Darrell hunt want to get rid of the Second Amendment… pure Socialism cannot exist with it.
The second amendment is the backbone of our Constitution, the First Amendment is grateful for it…

You have the right under the 1st Amendment to say what you say. I have the right to not believe a damned word your lying ass has to say. And I exercise that right constantly.

 

[jbander]

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

Well, there's where you're wrong....I don't miss.

Then you have never been under fire. Big talk for a chairwarrior.

I never spent 5 years on a Special Forces Operational Detachment "Alpha" Team.
I was never in Moghadishu Somalia in 93' getting shot at by 'Skinnies' belonging to Tribal Leader Mohamed Farid Aideed.
I never was deployed on a JSOTF (Joint Special Operations Task Force) under UNISOM.
I never trained foreign troops how to fight.
Never.

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

 

[Rustic]

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

See that’s the problem with progressives they never read anything in the context of the era, they’re stupid in that way.

There’s a reason why anti-gun nutters like Darrell hunt want to get rid of the Second Amendment… pure Socialism cannot exist with it.
The second amendment is the backbone of our Constitution, the First Amendment is grateful for it…

You have the right under the 1st Amendment to say what you say. I have the right to not believe a damned word your lying ass has to say. And I exercise that right constantly.

That’s Why I’ve always said, getting along is way overrated…
Freedom is only enjoyed by the individual… But the collective will never understand…

 

[Rustic]

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

Well, there's where you're wrong....I don't miss.

Then you have never been under fire. Big talk for a chairwarrior.

I never spent 5 years on a Special Forces Operational Detachment "Alpha" Team.
I was never in Moghadishu Somalia in 93' getting shot at by 'Skinnies' belonging to Tribal Leader Mohamed Farid Aideed.
I never was deployed on a JSOTF (Joint Special Operations Task Force) under UNISOM.
I never trained foreign troops how to fight.
Never.

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

Lol
Says a control freak...

 

[Rustic]

Excellent post. And I might add that there is no evidence that those 27%, even if an AR style weapon was banned, would not simply use a different weapon to accomplish their goal. The body count in some cases may have been slightly lower, but of course, in others they might have been slightly higher. It is after all, complete speculation.

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

a 1 string puppet mind that is controlled by lies. You people are in trouble.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

I get a kick out of these mentally deprived Ideas , that the party that is run as a dictatorship is talking about the other party taking away their freedom through something as stupid as regulating guns.

Getting rid of guns safely really isn't an issue, unless of course you have a fear of taking them into a police station and surrendering them.

Now I get it, you're afraid one might go off and kill you while getting them to the station?

Fear not, you have a far greater chance of dying on that Motorscooter than dying from an accidental gun discharge, which is somewhere in the area of 1.55 in 300,000,000 of happining.

I have the perfect way to prevent anyone from dying on a MotorScooter. Don't ride it in the first place. Same goes for an accidental discharge from a gun in your home. The only safe way to prevent that is to not have it in the first place. If you are afraid of a toaster electrocuting you don't own a toaster. Your logic on this one is illogical. And the only reason for it is that you want to sell more guns and make more profits. No wonder you don't want any gun laws. There just might be a market still in arming the 5 year olds.

It wasn't about the deadly tool, it was about the paranoia.

Why would anyone be paranoid about something that happens 1.55 in 300,000,000, but not about something with far greater odds.

The answer is that it is disingenuous to say one thing is so frightening that it should be banned, especially with such long odds, yet you willingly participate in something with far better odds that it will kill you.

But I think you already knew that.

If one needless death can be absolutely prevented then it should be prevented. A life is more important than your paranoia. But I guess it pays to be paranoid when they really are out to get you. Why that line must be completely around the block.

So how many lives are saved by the 1.5 million defensive gun uses per year, are they worth nothing to you? Come on child, let's see if you have an intellectually honest bone in you feeble body.


.

The ideas of the progressives do not work for the individual, never have, never will. Keep your fucking collective to yourselves that’s what it’s there for...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

See that’s the problem with progressives they never read anything in the context of the era, they’re stupid in that way.

There’s a reason why anti-gun nutters like Darrell hunt want to get rid of the Second Amendment… pure Socialism cannot exist with it.
The second amendment is the backbone of our Constitution, the First Amendment is grateful for it…

You have the right under the 1st Amendment to say what you say. I have the right to not believe a damned word your lying ass has to say. And I exercise that right constantly.

That’s Why I’ve always said, getting along is way overrated…
Freedom is only enjoyed by the individual… But the collective will never understand…

Here is another point. If you did have a successful business like you claim you would not have the time to spend so much time spewing in here. Since you are in here all the time and do spend the time to post so much then you must not be a successful gun dealer. That means you are getting your income elsewhere. Guess you are probably a Paid NRA Shill. That is the only thing that makes any sense. So keep posting your NRA sponsored crap. We will understand.

 

[jbander]

Excellent post. And I might add that there is no evidence that those 27%, even if an AR style weapon was banned, would not simply use a different weapon to accomplish their goal. The body count in some cases may have been slightly lower, but of course, in others they might have been slightly higher. It is after all, complete speculation.

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

You say a vote for a democrat is a vote to end the second, (First how can that be done) and second the comment is coming from a group that is led by a dictator , who lies non stop and hates just about everything. So a vote for the hate party is then a vote for hate, a vote for bigotry, a vote for chauvinism, a vote against democracy, a vote against your own government, a vote against logic, a vote against Mexicans or anyone who isn't white bread. Ya you people have a real good idea for this country.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

Well, there's where you're wrong....I don't miss.

Then you have never been under fire. Big talk for a chairwarrior.

I never spent 5 years on a Special Forces Operational Detachment "Alpha" Team.
I was never in Moghadishu Somalia in 93' getting shot at by 'Skinnies' belonging to Tribal Leader Mohamed Farid Aideed.
I never was deployed on a JSOTF (Joint Special Operations Task Force) under UNISOM.
I never trained foreign troops how to fight.
Never.

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

 

[jbander]

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

a 1 string puppet mind that is controlled by lies. You people are in trouble.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

I get a kick out of these mentally deprived Ideas , that the party that is run as a dictatorship is talking about the other party taking away their freedom through something as stupid as regulating guns.

I have the perfect way to prevent anyone from dying on a MotorScooter. Don't ride it in the first place. Same goes for an accidental discharge from a gun in your home. The only safe way to prevent that is to not have it in the first place. If you are afraid of a toaster electrocuting you don't own a toaster. Your logic on this one is illogical. And the only reason for it is that you want to sell more guns and make more profits. No wonder you don't want any gun laws. There just might be a market still in arming the 5 year olds.

It wasn't about the deadly tool, it was about the paranoia.

Why would anyone be paranoid about something that happens 1.55 in 300,000,000, but not about something with far greater odds.

The answer is that it is disingenuous to say one thing is so frightening that it should be banned, especially with such long odds, yet you willingly participate in something with far better odds that it will kill you.

But I think you already knew that.

If one needless death can be absolutely prevented then it should be prevented. A life is more important than your paranoia. But I guess it pays to be paranoid when they really are out to get you. Why that line must be completely around the block.

So how many lives are saved by the 1.5 million defensive gun uses per year, are they worth nothing to you? Come on child, let's see if you have an intellectually honest bone in you feeble body.


.

The ideas of the progressives do not work for the individual, never have, never will. Keep your fucking collective to yourselves that’s what it’s there for...

I usually try not to respond to the brain dead, other then to just tell them they are brain dead.

 

[Rustic]

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

See that’s the problem with progressives they never read anything in the context of the era, they’re stupid in that way.

There’s a reason why anti-gun nutters like Darrell hunt want to get rid of the Second Amendment… pure Socialism cannot exist with it.
The second amendment is the backbone of our Constitution, the First Amendment is grateful for it…

You have the right under the 1st Amendment to say what you say. I have the right to not believe a damned word your lying ass has to say. And I exercise that right constantly.

That’s Why I’ve always said, getting along is way overrated…
Freedom is only enjoyed by the individual… But the collective will never understand…

Here is another point. If you did have a successful business like you claim you would not have the time to spend so much time spewing in here. Since you are in here all the time and do spend the time to post so much then you must not be a successful gun dealer. That means you are getting your income elsewhere. Guess you are probably a Paid NRA Shill. That is the only thing that makes any sense. So keep posting your NRA sponsored crap. We will understand.

It’s a Sunday I don’t work on Sundays… Anyway I’m self-employed I can do whatever I want. I have several people working for me… Have been for 20+ years

 

[Rustic]

Well, there's where you're wrong....I don't miss.

Then you have never been under fire. Big talk for a chairwarrior.

I never spent 5 years on a Special Forces Operational Detachment "Alpha" Team.
I was never in Moghadishu Somalia in 93' getting shot at by 'Skinnies' belonging to Tribal Leader Mohamed Farid Aideed.
I never was deployed on a JSOTF (Joint Special Operations Task Force) under UNISOM.
I never trained foreign troops how to fight.
Never.

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

Na, I’m not part of the collective as you obviously are. Libertarians don’t much care for collectives…

 

[jbander]

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

You’re the fool that trusts the collective, typical of anti-gun nutters like yourself.

Keep your appeasement to yourself, it Suits only you...

Gun Bubbas brainless, is condition that they all suffer from.

 

[Rustic]

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

You say a vote for a democrat is a vote to end the second, (First how can that be done) and second the comment is coming from a group that is led by a dictator , who lies non stop and hates just about everything. So a vote for the hate party is then a vote for hate, a vote for bigotry, a vote for chauvinism, a vote against democracy, a vote against your own government, a vote against logic, a vote against Mexicans or anyone who isn't white bread. Ya you people have a real good idea for this country.

Political correctness has made you delusional

 

[Rustic]

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

a 1 string puppet mind that is controlled by lies. You people are in trouble.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

I get a kick out of these mentally deprived Ideas , that the party that is run as a dictatorship is talking about the other party taking away their freedom through something as stupid as regulating guns.

It wasn't about the deadly tool, it was about the paranoia.

Why would anyone be paranoid about something that happens 1.55 in 300,000,000, but not about something with far greater odds.

The answer is that it is disingenuous to say one thing is so frightening that it should be banned, especially with such long odds, yet you willingly participate in something with far better odds that it will kill you.

But I think you already knew that.

If one needless death can be absolutely prevented then it should be prevented. A life is more important than your paranoia. But I guess it pays to be paranoid when they really are out to get you. Why that line must be completely around the block.

So how many lives are saved by the 1.5 million defensive gun uses per year, are they worth nothing to you? Come on child, let's see if you have an intellectually honest bone in you feeble body.


.

The ideas of the progressives do not work for the individual, never have, never will. Keep your fucking collective to yourselves that’s what it’s there for...

I usually try not to respond to the brain dead, other then to just tell them they are brain dead.

Like I said keep your collective to yourselves, you obviously enjoy the village for the dumb, deaf and blind, in your case the village appears to be necessary… So in your case it does take a village... not so much for anybody else.

 

[Rustic]

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

You’re the fool that trusts the collective, typical of anti-gun nutters like yourself.

Keep your appeasement to yourself, it Suits only you...

Gun Bubbas brainless, is condition that they all suffer from.

Lol
Says the government shill...

 

[jbander]

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


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Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

1st line is false. No government can deny you the right to self defense.

They can make it a law saying it can't be done with a gun , in fact it is that way all over this country. The courts define the constitution, the courts can regulate guns , the courts have regulated guns and they will regulate guns in the future, Thank God. Gun Bubbas crazy is a prominent disease that makes people dangerous to the rest of the people around them, The last thing I want is a gun bubbas crazy living next to me.

 

[OKTexas]

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


.

Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

Really, I can carry a loaded gun in my vehicle without a permit, I can carry a gun on my person, concealed or open, with a permit which I have. So tell me child, what is there to grumble about? The only whiny little bitch I see around here is you.


.

 

[jbander]

Then you have never been under fire. Big talk for a chairwarrior.

I never spent 5 years on a Special Forces Operational Detachment "Alpha" Team.
I was never in Moghadishu Somalia in 93' getting shot at by 'Skinnies' belonging to Tribal Leader Mohamed Farid Aideed.
I never was deployed on a JSOTF (Joint Special Operations Task Force) under UNISOM.
I never trained foreign troops how to fight.
Never.

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

Na, I’m not part of the collective as you obviously are. Libertarians don’t much care for collectives…

Ahh Libertarian , Anarchist for the wealthy.