“What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?”

[jbander]

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Either a non response or a stupid response, that's all the right offers.


Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

You say a vote for a democrat is a vote to end the second, (First how can that be done) and second the comment is coming from a group that is led by a dictator , who lies non stop and hates just about everything. So a vote for the hate party is then a vote for hate, a vote for bigotry, a vote for chauvinism, a vote against democracy, a vote against your own government, a vote against logic, a vote against Mexicans or anyone who isn't white bread. Ya you people have a real good idea for this country.

Political correctness has made you delusional

 

[jbander]

a 1 string puppet mind that is controlled by lies. You people are in trouble.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

I get a kick out of these mentally deprived Ideas , that the party that is run as a dictatorship is talking about the other party taking away their freedom through something as stupid as regulating guns.

If one needless death can be absolutely prevented then it should be prevented. A life is more important than your paranoia. But I guess it pays to be paranoid when they really are out to get you. Why that line must be completely around the block.

So how many lives are saved by the 1.5 million defensive gun uses per year, are they worth nothing to you? Come on child, let's see if you have an intellectually honest bone in you feeble body.


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The ideas of the progressives do not work for the individual, never have, never will. Keep your fucking collective to yourselves that’s what it’s there for...

I usually try not to respond to the brain dead, other then to just tell them they are brain dead.

Like I said keep your collective to yourselves, you obviously enjoy the village for the dumb, deaf and blind, in your case the village appears to be necessary… So in your case it does take a village... not so much for anybody else.

Collective stupid. is that like your Bubbas stupid, or Bubbas Dictators, or Bubbas haters. Or bubba sick and is it contagious. Like I said Nonsense or bullshit.

 

[jbander]

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

You’re the fool that trusts the collective, typical of anti-gun nutters like yourself.

Keep your appeasement to yourself, it Suits only you...

Gun Bubbas brainless, is condition that they all suffer from.

Lol
Says the government shill...

Ya you are totally, and your supporting a dictator.

 

[Rustic]

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


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Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

1st line is false. No government can deny you the right to self defense.

They can make it a law saying it can't be done with a gun , in fact it is that way all over this country. The courts define the constitution, the courts can regulate guns , the courts have regulated guns and they will regulate guns in the future, Thank God. Gun Bubbas crazy is a prominent disease that makes people dangerous to the rest of the people around them, The last thing I want is a gun bubbas crazy living next to me.

Rural areas are the safest because of firearms, They outnumber the people many, many times over.
Progressive control freaks are the dangerous people… Proven in urban areas every day.

 

[Rustic]

I never spent 5 years on a Special Forces Operational Detachment "Alpha" Team.
I was never in Moghadishu Somalia in 93' getting shot at by 'Skinnies' belonging to Tribal Leader Mohamed Farid Aideed.
I never was deployed on a JSOTF (Joint Special Operations Task Force) under UNISOM.
I never trained foreign troops how to fight.
Never.

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

Na, I’m not part of the collective as you obviously are. Libertarians don’t much care for collectives…

Ahh Libertarian , Anarchist for the wealthy.

Thank God for the Second Amendment, the backbone of the Constitution. The first amendment is very grateful for it...

 

[Rustic]

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

I get a kick out of these mentally deprived Ideas , that the party that is run as a dictatorship is talking about the other party taking away their freedom through something as stupid as regulating guns.

So how many lives are saved by the 1.5 million defensive gun uses per year, are they worth nothing to you? Come on child, let's see if you have an intellectually honest bone in you feeble body.


.

The ideas of the progressives do not work for the individual, never have, never will. Keep your fucking collective to yourselves that’s what it’s there for...

I usually try not to respond to the brain dead, other then to just tell them they are brain dead.

Like I said keep your collective to yourselves, you obviously enjoy the village for the dumb, deaf and blind, in your case the village appears to be necessary… So in your case it does take a village... not so much for anybody else.

Collective stupid. is that like your Bubbas stupid, or Bubbas Dictators, or Bubbas haters. Or bubba sick and is it contagious. Like I said Nonsense or bullshit.

Buy more guns and ammo

 

[Rustic]

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

You’re the fool that trusts the collective, typical of anti-gun nutters like yourself.

Keep your appeasement to yourself, it Suits only you...

Gun Bubbas brainless, is condition that they all suffer from.

Lol
Says the government shill...

Ya you are totally, and your supporting a dictator.

Na, I did not even vote for Trump. Although he was infinitely better than the alternative.
Anyway... It does not take a village

 

[OKTexas]

Mine:

It is a right, not a privilege. Fuck your restrictions.

Especially the rail ban. What the fuck kind of dangerout accessories could be attached. Laser sites?


You just proved that you have limit knowledge and understanding.

What you have just proved is that you have absolutely nothing to input in this discussion. You use the same old tired insults over and over. You want to present the AR as a sporting rifle? Well, present it that way. But don't include the things that makes it an Assault Rifle by definition. Otherwise, it gets banned completely if you win out on it's construction. You don't need the rails to mount a 203 grenade launcher and anything else that clearly defines it as a Military Assault Rifle. You want to argue that the rail for a Laser Site is in question? It's not. but the ability to mount a Bayonet is. The ability to mount a silencer is in question and is illegal to manufacture and be sold in Colorado. Many Rifles have the ability to mount Laser Sites so that isn't in question. So how about growing up a bit. And allow those that want to use it as a sport rifle to have it instead of getting your way and having it banned completely. Stop screwing it up for other people.

What makes a rifle an assault rifle by definition is the select fire ability.

The AR 15 does not have that ability ergo the AR 15 is not an assault rifle by definition

That is YOUR very narrow definition. Others have other definitions. Like, can it accept additional equipment that is strictly used for war like a M203 Grenade Launcher. Can it accept a Silencer, can it accept a Bayonet?

One person said that a Bayonet was just a knife. Not when mounted on the front of a rifle, it's not. It becomes many times more deadly and has only one use and that is of war. You can't use a bayonet to varmint hunt. Those little critters just won't cooperate.

Most of these arguments by you nutters are just strawmen. The AR can be equipped exactly like the M-16 and that is part of the mystique of the weapon. By changing it to not accept the accessories of war much of the mystique is removed. You don't want it classified as an Assault Weapon, remove the ability to accept the War Accessories. Or lose the weapon completely. You people are your own worst enemy.

Tell us child, where can you buy these rail mounted 203s and ammo for them? While your at it how about a rail mount bayonet lug? The rails on mine are designed to accept different lights and sights, in fact it didn't even come with fixed sights. I don't know where you're coming up with these fantasies.


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Funny, I did a quick search for a M-203 and on the 3 one on the first page I hit it. All the accessories any collector with a FFL License or a complete fruitcake could imagine is available. And it all fits the standard AR-15 including the rails to mount the goodies. I won't go into it since the collectors already know of it and the gun nutcases like you shouldn't have readily have that information handed to them. Actually, I already know you would be too friggin lazy to even go through the hoops to have a legally mounted M-203 with Rounds so it's probably not a problem anyway.

So what you're saying is the M203 in not available to the general public and requires a Class 3 FFL and it's not rail mounted. That kind of kills your ridiculous argument that rails have anything to do with weapons of war.


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[Vandalshandle]

The NRA has explained to us that firearms don't kill people. People kill people. That being the case, one has to wonder why the NRA allows people to attend their conventions, but ban guns.

 

[OKTexas]

Excellent post. And I might add that there is no evidence that those 27%, even if an AR style weapon was banned, would not simply use a different weapon to accomplish their goal. The body count in some cases may have been slightly lower, but of course, in others they might have been slightly higher. It is after all, complete speculation.

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

a 1 string puppet mind that is controlled by lies. You people are in trouble.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

I get a kick out of these mentally deprived Ideas , that the party that is run as a dictatorship is talking about the other party taking away their freedom through something as stupid as regulating guns.

Getting rid of guns safely really isn't an issue, unless of course you have a fear of taking them into a police station and surrendering them.

Now I get it, you're afraid one might go off and kill you while getting them to the station?

Fear not, you have a far greater chance of dying on that Motorscooter than dying from an accidental gun discharge, which is somewhere in the area of 1.55 in 300,000,000 of happining.

I have the perfect way to prevent anyone from dying on a MotorScooter. Don't ride it in the first place. Same goes for an accidental discharge from a gun in your home. The only safe way to prevent that is to not have it in the first place. If you are afraid of a toaster electrocuting you don't own a toaster. Your logic on this one is illogical. And the only reason for it is that you want to sell more guns and make more profits. No wonder you don't want any gun laws. There just might be a market still in arming the 5 year olds.

It wasn't about the deadly tool, it was about the paranoia.

Why would anyone be paranoid about something that happens 1.55 in 300,000,000, but not about something with far greater odds.

The answer is that it is disingenuous to say one thing is so frightening that it should be banned, especially with such long odds, yet you willingly participate in something with far better odds that it will kill you.

But I think you already knew that.

If one needless death can be absolutely prevented then it should be prevented. A life is more important than your paranoia. But I guess it pays to be paranoid when they really are out to get you. Why that line must be completely around the block.

So how many lives are saved by the 1.5 million defensive gun uses per year, are they worth nothing to you? Come on child, let's see if you have an intellectually honest bone in you feeble body.


.

How about you actually address what I said if you're going to quote me.


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[2aguy]

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


.

Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

1st line is false. No government can deny you the right to self defense.

They can make it a law saying it can't be done with a gun , in fact it is that way all over this country. The courts define the constitution, the courts can regulate guns , the courts have regulated guns and they will regulate guns in the future, Thank God. Gun Bubbas crazy is a prominent disease that makes people dangerous to the rest of the people around them, The last thing I want is a gun bubbas crazy living next to me.

Rural areas are the safest because of firearms, They outnumber the people many, many times over.
Progressive control freaks are the dangerous people… Proven in urban areas every day.

The truth....Whites own more firearms but use them to commit fewer crimes including murder.

Minorities legally own fewer firearms but use them to commit more crimes, including murder.

 

[2aguy]

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

You say a vote for a democrat is a vote to end the second, (First how can that be done) and second the comment is coming from a group that is led by a dictator , who lies non stop and hates just about everything. So a vote for the hate party is then a vote for hate, a vote for bigotry, a vote for chauvinism, a vote against democracy, a vote against your own government, a vote against logic, a vote against Mexicans or anyone who isn't white bread. Ya you people have a real good idea for this country.

They will appoint judges who will rule gun bans are constitutional, and they will appoint Justices to the Supreme Court who will uphold those rulings....making the 2nd Amendment the same as in Mexico, where citizens have the Right to have guns, but they just can't have any....

 

[2aguy]

Yet the post leaves out that of the Mass Shootings, the high body counts were all AR-15, all but one were done by people younger than 21, of these all used 30 shot or better multiple mags for reloading. Using that data, what can we change to not stop the mass shootings but keep the body counts down? And don't use the old tired "From My Dead Cold Hands" response.

I left out the fact that the media calls every semi-auto rifle an AR-15 when it's not.
Plus, lets not overlook the total body-count for AR-15s is very miniscule compared to handguns.

But liberals always play this game that 10 children being shot by a Whiteman using an AR-15 matters more than 256 black kids in Chicago being shot by Glocks in gang violence.

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Flintlocks? Weren't those the original guns used to commit genocide against the Native Americans?......those are weapons of mass genocide...how dare you....

You say a vote for a democrat is a vote to end the second, (First how can that be done) and second the comment is coming from a group that is led by a dictator , who lies non stop and hates just about everything. So a vote for the hate party is then a vote for hate, a vote for bigotry, a vote for chauvinism, a vote against democracy, a vote against your own government, a vote against logic, a vote against Mexicans or anyone who isn't white bread. Ya you people have a real good idea for this country.

Any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment.

 

[2aguy]

Well, there's where you're wrong....I don't miss.

Then you have never been under fire. Big talk for a chairwarrior.

I never spent 5 years on a Special Forces Operational Detachment "Alpha" Team.
I was never in Moghadishu Somalia in 93' getting shot at by 'Skinnies' belonging to Tribal Leader Mohamed Farid Aideed.
I never was deployed on a JSOTF (Joint Special Operations Task Force) under UNISOM.
I never trained foreign troops how to fight.
Never.

and like the rest of you gun bubbas , you can never believe because if the answer doesn't work for you, you simply lie. Funny group.

Lol
Says a control freak...

It appears that it's YOU that is the control freak. You want it just your way. No compromise, no discussion, nothing. It has to be YOUR way and no other way. You are a paid NRA Shill. Get used to the idea that we know you are.

There is no compromise because you guys want to ban and confiscate guns..... you will do this one law, one prohibition at a time until there is nothing left..... you guys just made the leap from "ban assault rifles" to "ban all semi automatic weapons" which means you want to ban every semi automatic rifle, pistol, revolver, and shotgun.....which is the majority of all guns owned by Americans.....

You were just stupid enough to say it out loud, in front of television cameras....

 

[Rustic]

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


.

Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

1st line is false. No government can deny you the right to self defense.

They can make it a law saying it can't be done with a gun , in fact it is that way all over this country. The courts define the constitution, the courts can regulate guns , the courts have regulated guns and they will regulate guns in the future, Thank God. Gun Bubbas crazy is a prominent disease that makes people dangerous to the rest of the people around them, The last thing I want is a gun bubbas crazy living next to me.

Rural areas are the safest because of firearms, They outnumber the people many, many times over.
Progressive control freaks are the dangerous people… Proven in urban areas every day.

The truth....Whites own more firearms but use them to commit fewer crimes including murder.

Minorities legally own fewer firearms but use them to commit more crimes, including murder.

Don’t let facts get in the way of the so called “truth”, It enrages progressives

 

[Daryl Hunt]

We save what we can and not save what we can't save. You don't even want to outlaw the Bump Stock which is useful only on the AR-15 and is worthless on all other rifles including the Mini-14. You are against removal of the militiary hardware mounting rails on the AR-15. If these things are left then the opposition has a case in moving the AR into a FFL licensed rating. You either compromise or you lose it all. Luckily, MOST go for the compromise and don't pay a whole hell of a lot of credence to your insanity.

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


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Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

Really, I can carry a loaded gun in my vehicle without a permit, I can carry a gun on my person, concealed or open, with a permit which I have. So tell me child, what is there to grumble about? The only whiny little bitch I see around here is you.


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So can I. What's your point. I can do so not by the grace of God bu by the grace of the "State". Other states don't give that grace. You spend all your time harping about the Feds. But you seem to want to get in other states faces. If you want to change things in the other states, move there and make a difference there. I have made a difference here.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

1st line is false. No government can deny you the right to self defense.

They can make it a law saying it can't be done with a gun , in fact it is that way all over this country. The courts define the constitution, the courts can regulate guns , the courts have regulated guns and they will regulate guns in the future, Thank God. Gun Bubbas crazy is a prominent disease that makes people dangerous to the rest of the people around them, The last thing I want is a gun bubbas crazy living next to me.

Rural areas are the safest because of firearms, They outnumber the people many, many times over.
Progressive control freaks are the dangerous people… Proven in urban areas every day.

The truth....Whites own more firearms but use them to commit fewer crimes including murder.

Minorities legally own fewer firearms but use them to commit more crimes, including murder.

Don’t let facts get in the way of the so called “truth”, It enrages progressives

Spo you have shjut down their regualr jobs, left them with no income except for public assistance and criminal activities and then complain that they are doing what they have to do to stay alive. With criminal activity comes violence. You want to do something about it, work on getting the jobs back into those communities. You want to end criminal Activity, give an alternative like decent jobs and better police coverage. Until then, you don't have a damned thing worth bitching about.

 

[Rustic]

1st line is false. No government can deny you the right to self defense.

They can make it a law saying it can't be done with a gun , in fact it is that way all over this country. The courts define the constitution, the courts can regulate guns , the courts have regulated guns and they will regulate guns in the future, Thank God. Gun Bubbas crazy is a prominent disease that makes people dangerous to the rest of the people around them, The last thing I want is a gun bubbas crazy living next to me.

Rural areas are the safest because of firearms, They outnumber the people many, many times over.
Progressive control freaks are the dangerous people… Proven in urban areas every day.

The truth....Whites own more firearms but use them to commit fewer crimes including murder.

Minorities legally own fewer firearms but use them to commit more crimes, including murder.

Don’t let facts get in the way of the so called “truth”, It enrages progressives

Spo you have shjut down their regualr jobs, left them with no income except for public assistance and criminal activities and then complain that they are doing what they have to do to stay alive. With criminal activity comes violence. You want to do something about it, work on getting the jobs back into those communities. You want to end criminal Activity, give an alternative like decent jobs and better police coverage. Until then, you don't have a damned thing worth bitching about.

It is better to teach A man to fish, than give a man a fish...
But that takes real effort progressives like yourself don’t want anything to do with.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

They can make it a law saying it can't be done with a gun , in fact it is that way all over this country. The courts define the constitution, the courts can regulate guns , the courts have regulated guns and they will regulate guns in the future, Thank God. Gun Bubbas crazy is a prominent disease that makes people dangerous to the rest of the people around them, The last thing I want is a gun bubbas crazy living next to me.

Rural areas are the safest because of firearms, They outnumber the people many, many times over.
Progressive control freaks are the dangerous people… Proven in urban areas every day.

The truth....Whites own more firearms but use them to commit fewer crimes including murder.

Minorities legally own fewer firearms but use them to commit more crimes, including murder.

Don’t let facts get in the way of the so called “truth”, It enrages progressives

Spo you have shjut down their regualr jobs, left them with no income except for public assistance and criminal activities and then complain that they are doing what they have to do to stay alive. With criminal activity comes violence. You want to do something about it, work on getting the jobs back into those communities. You want to end criminal Activity, give an alternative like decent jobs and better police coverage. Until then, you don't have a damned thing worth bitching about.

It is better to teach A man to fish, than give a man a fish...
But that takes real effort progressives like yourself don’t want anything to do with.

Then get those jobs back into those communities. And then teach them how to "Fish". You can stop giving him the "Fish". Allow him to earn that "Fish". Do it because it's the right thing to do for America.

 

[OKTexas]

I figure outlawing Bump Stocks is okay, but once you guys get that what's next?
Outlawing anything that fires more than one round at a time?
Why not outlaw everything other than Flintlocks, shall we?

The problem is all of this anti-gun BS isn't based on saving lives. It's based on screwing us out of our right to own a means of protecting ourselves.
Those rights are by design in place to prevent government from taking away the rest of our rights.
They are essential to maintain a free society.
Banning guns never stopped murders in any country.
If that were the case then sign me up.
But anyone who is a realist knows that this is what every Socialist society has done.
They want to take away our right to secure our homes.

Why the fake outrage? The Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to defend your home with your firearm no matter how the local or state rules. Of course, they also placed reasonable limits to that. For instance, no automatic weapons. But you can use semi autos. Sorry, no Bazookas (you might miss and take out the bus stop down the street). Your outrage is almost the temper tantrum of a small child who wanted the whole bag of cookies when he was told to only take one.

The right of self defense doesn't end at your front door or property line.


.

Once you exit your property line you are under the jurisdiction of the local and state governments. You aren't free to carry or do any damned thing you want to do. You have to abide by the laws of the land no matter what they are. Okay, you are free to grumble about them, tell every person you see just how unfair they are but you will abide by them or be taken out of the equation one way or another.

Really, I can carry a loaded gun in my vehicle without a permit, I can carry a gun on my person, concealed or open, with a permit which I have. So tell me child, what is there to grumble about? The only whiny little bitch I see around here is you.


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So can I. What's your point. I can do so not by the grace of God bu by the grace of the "State". Other states don't give that grace. You spend all your time harping about the Feds. But you seem to want to get in other states faces. If you want to change things in the other states, move there and make a difference there. I have made a difference here.

All States have agreed to the 2nd, what part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" do you not understand? The feds are there to protect our rights, not try to find ways to limit or eliminate them.

BTW, why haven't you answered my question about the defensive uses of guns saving lives? Using your logic, if it saves one life it's worth those folks having firearms, right?


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