“What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?”

[Skull Pilot]

The correct question to ask is what percentage of mass-shootings is done with an assault weapon.

Zero

The term "Assault weapon" is a media invention.

Did you know that most mass shootings were domestic or family violence? Analysis of Mass Shootings

Only 27% of mass shooters used an AR-15. Most used handguns. Reality Check: Most Mass Shooters Use Handguns, Not AR-15s

how many victims per incident per type of weapon?

And what do his links have to do with much of anything at all?

When it mudwhistle 's kid, wife, mother, sister, will the type of weapon or the number of times its been used be the first question he asks?

Next, one of the nutters will say "but swimming pools and cars".

No they would not. Because we know that, absent one weapon a depraved killer or rapist will simply choose another. It is, after all, what depraved killers and rapists do.

I can't speak for mudwhislte, but I know, if my kid, wife, mother, sister were killed in a mass shooting, my first question would be, what antidepressant was the shooter on when he did this.

Even many on the left know it's not the guns causing these shootings, it's the drug.



Watch it and learn. I know you won't, because you don't want to know the truth.

Lets flip your question and see if you have guts enough to answer it:

Your daughter, home with your granddaughter calls you and tells you she repelled a house invasion by a known rapist.

Would you care if she used an AR-15, or for that matter, any weapon, legal or not, to save her and/or your granddaughter?

I look forward to your answer, although I expect you don't have nerve enough to.

And yet when a bill is presented and passed by the house to the Senate that gives law enforcement the ability to temporarily confiscate weapons of people that are obviously violent or mentally ill, the Colorado Republican Senate doesn't even let it get out of the committee before it's defeated on a 5 to 2 strictly party vote. What the law was supposed to do is allow Law Enforcement the ability to seize the weapons of a clearly violent or mentally ill person and immediately quickly get it in front of a Judge who could make it longer term, permanent or override the decision. Your wonderful bunch saying that we should work to get the guns out of the mentally ill's hands is just crap. Guess your sponsor, the NRA, sees it as a way to make more sales. Can't wait until they get an override on all age limits and go for 6 year olds.

And who ecides if a person is "obviously mentally ill" you, a cop, some Schmoe on the street?

 

[Rustic]

Your conclusion is ridiculous. A car is made to transport people or persons to work, home, school, shopping etc. A gun is made to put people, persons or animals to death.

You conclusion is ridiculous. A gun is also made to prevent people, persons (don't see a difference), or animals from being put to death.

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

The very definition of government is lousy management

If you want fuck something up, leave it to the federal government

 

[jbander]

Twist rate depends on the grain of bullet, for accuracy

In answer to the other persons question, the Mini-14 comes in may forms just like the AR-15. But more Mini-14s cost right around 500 bucks staring just like the AR-15.

In order to use the 556 nato round, you are going to have to hog out the combustion chamber a bit and use a chromium coating. You are also going to need your barrel to have chromium in the barrel as well. The 556 develops a much higher pressure than the 223 does and does require beefing up to handle it. Yes, you can buy a Match Grade Mini-14 with those mods done to it just like you can buy a Match Grade AR-15 with those done as well. But ALL M-16s come with those already done in order to handle the 556. The cost to the government for a M-16 is about 5 grand (I think it's inflated) while the Match Grade AR-15 and the Match Grade Mini-14 is about 1500. If you do buy an AR-15 or a Mini-14 for far less DO NOT FIRE 556 ROUNDS THROUGH THEM. The least that can happen is the fast wearing of your barrel and firing chamber. The nightmare also might happen where it bursts the firing chamber just ahead of your face. You may get away with it for awhile but sooner or later, bad things will happen. Of course, the gun nutters will say they do it all the time. But there are enough one eyed jacks out there that didn't get so lucky.

The MINI-14 accepts the nato round. Its built up to do just that , They advertise it as being able to accept both rounds , 223 and nato Round . I know a bit about this gun one of my best friends got shot with A mini-14 shooting the Nato Round. Some of the biggest names in gun makers chamber their AR15 to use the NATO ROUND. These two cartridges pressure are measured by two different standards, when measured by the same standard the The 556 shot through a AR is less then 5% more. Am I missing something if so I'd like to know.

You certainly are missing something. Like the AR that is setup to fire just the 223, there are also Mini-14s setup to just fire the 223s. The Upper priced Mini-14, like the upper priced AR-15 have the combustion chamber hogged out a bit and the firing chamber lined with Chromium in order to handle the higher pressures of the 556. Simple as that. You can't expect a 500 gun to fire the 556 ammo. It's just plain unsafe over a long period of time.

Actually I believe it is the other way around , even the ranch gun is chambered for both and there more expensive target model only takes 223. Lots of arms companies chamber their AR to both. Ruger Mini -14 ranch is one of them, Their cheapest model is chambered for both. That Model, the cheapest at the time ,is what was used to shoot my friend, Trust me I know a little about this gun, After he was shot, while he was recovering I looked into the subject in depth.

Of course you would since you have the knowledge of a rock on the subject. Sure do wish you would just lay dormant for awhile. I already kicked their asses and all you are doing is giving them an easy target to keep them stirred up. But newflash: they use 223 in the Mini-14 not the 556 unless you spend a lot of money. Just because you can fit a 556 into a Mini-14 or an AR-14 doesn't mean it's the brightest bulb thing to do. But you go ahead and do it. It's sometimes called the Darwin Factor.

Daryl you disappoint me, your just another gun hack that can't be wrong.

 

[jbander]

So Daryl are you going to come back and tell me you know more then Ruger about their Rifle

 

[jbander]

Your conclusion is ridiculous. A car is made to transport people or persons to work, home, school, shopping etc. A gun is made to put people, persons or animals to death.

You conclusion is ridiculous. A gun is also made to prevent people, persons (don't see a difference), or animals from being put to death.

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

The socialism bullshit from the right is a laugh and a half , there is no socialism in this country unless it's by your own definition. Like if it has social in name the weak minded thinks that is socialism.

 

[Rustic]

Your conclusion is ridiculous. A car is made to transport people or persons to work, home, school, shopping etc. A gun is made to put people, persons or animals to death.

You conclusion is ridiculous. A gun is also made to prevent people, persons (don't see a difference), or animals from being put to death.

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

The socialism bullshit from the right is a laugh and a half , there is no socialism in this country unless it's by your own definition. Like if it has social in name the weak minded thinks that is socialism.

There is a reason why Hitler named his own party the national Socialist party… Socialism is a fucked up concept...

 

[danielpalos]

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

People always say that about socialism, funny thing is “on paper” is always different than reality. Socialism has been tried countless times, in countless forms the result has and always will be failure... it is absolutely insane to think “this time” it will work for the good of anyone.
You can go try your little socialist utopia, leave the rest of us out of it...

get your whole and entire understanding of socialism from a dictionary, do you?

we have a mixed market economy. the mixture is, part socialism and part capitalism.

the left is merely learning how to use Capitalism, for all of its capital worth in modern times.

The only thing worse than nationalism is globalism...

what makes you say that?

 

[danielpalos]

The correct question to ask is what percentage of mass-shootings is done with an assault weapon.

Zero

The term "Assault weapon" is a media invention.

Did you know that most mass shootings were domestic or family violence? Analysis of Mass Shootings

Only 27% of mass shooters used an AR-15. Most used handguns. Reality Check: Most Mass Shooters Use Handguns, Not AR-15s

how many victims per incident per type of weapon?

And what do his links have to do with much of anything at all?

When it mudwhistle 's kid, wife, mother, sister, will the type of weapon or the number of times its been used be the first question he asks?

Next, one of the nutters will say "but swimming pools and cars".

No they would not. Because we know that, absent one weapon a depraved killer or rapist will simply choose another. It is, after all, what depraved killers and rapists do.

I can't speak for mudwhislte, but I know, if my kid, wife, mother, sister were killed in a mass shooting, my first question would be, what antidepressant was the shooter on when he did this.

Even many on the left know it's not the guns causing these shootings, it's the drug.



Watch it and learn. I know you won't, because you don't want to know the truth.

Lets flip your question and see if you have guts enough to answer it:

Your daughter, home with your granddaughter calls you and tells you she repelled a house invasion by a known rapist.

Would you care if she used an AR-15, or for that matter, any weapon, legal or not, to save her and/or your granddaughter?

I look forward to your answer, although I expect you don't have nerve enough to.

And yet when a bill is presented and passed by the house to the Senate that gives law enforcement the ability to temporarily confiscate weapons of people that are obviously violent or mentally ill, the Colorado Republican Senate doesn't even let it get out of the committee before it's defeated on a 5 to 2 strictly party vote. What the law was supposed to do is allow Law Enforcement the ability to seize the weapons of a clearly violent or mentally ill person and immediately quickly get it in front of a Judge who could make it longer term, permanent or override the decision. Your wonderful bunch saying that we should work to get the guns out of the mentally ill's hands is just crap. Guess your sponsor, the NRA, sees it as a way to make more sales. Can't wait until they get an override on all age limits and go for 6 year olds.

Anti-gun nutters like yourself only want your ideas implemented, that is a no-go for the rest of us...

We have a Second Amendment; we should have no security problems in our free States.

 

[danielpalos]

Your conclusion is ridiculous. A car is made to transport people or persons to work, home, school, shopping etc. A gun is made to put people, persons or animals to death.

You conclusion is ridiculous. A gun is also made to prevent people, persons (don't see a difference), or animals from being put to death.

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

The very definition of government is lousy management

Capitalism cannot do any better since social costs are an externality. That is why we achieve an efficiency gain by having Government. Along with indoor plumbing.

 

[Rustic]

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

People always say that about socialism, funny thing is “on paper” is always different than reality. Socialism has been tried countless times, in countless forms the result has and always will be failure... it is absolutely insane to think “this time” it will work for the good of anyone.
You can go try your little socialist utopia, leave the rest of us out of it...

get your whole and entire understanding of socialism from a dictionary, do you?

we have a mixed market economy. the mixture is, part socialism and part capitalism.

the left is merely learning how to use Capitalism, for all of its capital worth in modern times.

The only thing worse than nationalism is globalism...

what makes you say that?

Any type of collective always has evil intentions

 

[Rustic]

how many victims per incident per type of weapon?

And what do his links have to do with much of anything at all?

When it mudwhistle 's kid, wife, mother, sister, will the type of weapon or the number of times its been used be the first question he asks?

Next, one of the nutters will say "but swimming pools and cars".

No they would not. Because we know that, absent one weapon a depraved killer or rapist will simply choose another. It is, after all, what depraved killers and rapists do.

I can't speak for mudwhislte, but I know, if my kid, wife, mother, sister were killed in a mass shooting, my first question would be, what antidepressant was the shooter on when he did this.

Even many on the left know it's not the guns causing these shootings, it's the drug.



Watch it and learn. I know you won't, because you don't want to know the truth.

Lets flip your question and see if you have guts enough to answer it:

Your daughter, home with your granddaughter calls you and tells you she repelled a house invasion by a known rapist.

Would you care if she used an AR-15, or for that matter, any weapon, legal or not, to save her and/or your granddaughter?

I look forward to your answer, although I expect you don't have nerve enough to.

And yet when a bill is presented and passed by the house to the Senate that gives law enforcement the ability to temporarily confiscate weapons of people that are obviously violent or mentally ill, the Colorado Republican Senate doesn't even let it get out of the committee before it's defeated on a 5 to 2 strictly party vote. What the law was supposed to do is allow Law Enforcement the ability to seize the weapons of a clearly violent or mentally ill person and immediately quickly get it in front of a Judge who could make it longer term, permanent or override the decision. Your wonderful bunch saying that we should work to get the guns out of the mentally ill's hands is just crap. Guess your sponsor, the NRA, sees it as a way to make more sales. Can't wait until they get an override on all age limits and go for 6 year olds.

Anti-gun nutters like yourself only want your ideas implemented, that is a no-go for the rest of us...

We have a Second Amendment; we should have no security problems in our free States.

Shit happens

 

[jbander]

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

People always say that about socialism, funny thing is “on paper” is always different than reality. Socialism has been tried countless times, in countless forms the result has and always will be failure... it is absolutely insane to think “this time” it will work for the good of anyone.
You can go try your little socialist utopia, leave the rest of us out of it...

Every successful country in the world since time began has had some form of socialism within it along with capitalism and a few other isms. You keep preaching that there is no Socialism in the United States of America. There always has been since the day it was created. So stop this nonsense.

Silly fool, we have have over 100 years of shit eating socialism, It started with that piece of shit Woodrow Wilson and his little butt buddy Theodore Roosevelt and continued with the dictator FDR...
That is the reason why we have a unpayable debt, Socialist entitlement programs are as socialist as you can get… That is why they always fail.
We have so much socialism that we have passed the point of no return… You need some reading comprehension classes apparently…

I guess it's time to prove that these Socialism wackos have no clue - Simple proof , This is a fair challenge , go to any encyclopedia , get the main tenets of socialism , come back with those main tenet's, tell us how we have socialism in this country, you clowns don't get to define it, it has been defined many years ago. Bring your Encyclopedia source, never know when Fox crap news comes up with it's a own Encyclopedia. If you want to bullshit your way around this by doing it your way ,don't answer , this is a fair challenge. Stick to the simple rules.

 

[danielpalos]

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

People always say that about socialism, funny thing is “on paper” is always different than reality. Socialism has been tried countless times, in countless forms the result has and always will be failure... it is absolutely insane to think “this time” it will work for the good of anyone.
You can go try your little socialist utopia, leave the rest of us out of it...

get your whole and entire understanding of socialism from a dictionary, do you?

we have a mixed market economy. the mixture is, part socialism and part capitalism.

the left is merely learning how to use Capitalism, for all of its capital worth in modern times.

The only thing worse than nationalism is globalism...

what makes you say that?

Any type of collective always has evil intentions

and individuals don't?

 

[danielpalos]

And what do his links have to do with much of anything at all?

When it mudwhistle 's kid, wife, mother, sister, will the type of weapon or the number of times its been used be the first question he asks?

Next, one of the nutters will say "but swimming pools and cars".

No they would not. Because we know that, absent one weapon a depraved killer or rapist will simply choose another. It is, after all, what depraved killers and rapists do.

I can't speak for mudwhislte, but I know, if my kid, wife, mother, sister were killed in a mass shooting, my first question would be, what antidepressant was the shooter on when he did this.

Even many on the left know it's not the guns causing these shootings, it's the drug.



Watch it and learn. I know you won't, because you don't want to know the truth.

Lets flip your question and see if you have guts enough to answer it:

Your daughter, home with your granddaughter calls you and tells you she repelled a house invasion by a known rapist.

Would you care if she used an AR-15, or for that matter, any weapon, legal or not, to save her and/or your granddaughter?

I look forward to your answer, although I expect you don't have nerve enough to.

And yet when a bill is presented and passed by the house to the Senate that gives law enforcement the ability to temporarily confiscate weapons of people that are obviously violent or mentally ill, the Colorado Republican Senate doesn't even let it get out of the committee before it's defeated on a 5 to 2 strictly party vote. What the law was supposed to do is allow Law Enforcement the ability to seize the weapons of a clearly violent or mentally ill person and immediately quickly get it in front of a Judge who could make it longer term, permanent or override the decision. Your wonderful bunch saying that we should work to get the guns out of the mentally ill's hands is just crap. Guess your sponsor, the NRA, sees it as a way to make more sales. Can't wait until they get an override on all age limits and go for 6 year olds.

Anti-gun nutters like yourself only want your ideas implemented, that is a no-go for the rest of us...

We have a Second Amendment; we should have no security problems in our free States.

Shit happens

There is no provision for Excuses in the federal doctrine, Only results.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You conclusion is ridiculous. A gun is also made to prevent people, persons (don't see a difference), or animals from being put to death.

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

The very definition of government is lousy management

Capitalism cannot do any better since social costs are an externality. That is why we achieve an efficiency gain by having Government. Along with indoor plumbing.

There is no instance where the government is a better manager or resources or a better steward of money than is the private sector

 

[Pop23]

The correct question to ask is what percentage of mass-shootings is done with an assault weapon.

Zero

The term "Assault weapon" is a media invention.

Did you know that most mass shootings were domestic or family violence? Analysis of Mass Shootings

Only 27% of mass shooters used an AR-15. Most used handguns. Reality Check: Most Mass Shooters Use Handguns, Not AR-15s

how many victims per incident per type of weapon?

And what do his links have to do with much of anything at all?

When it mudwhistle 's kid, wife, mother, sister, will the type of weapon or the number of times its been used be the first question he asks?

Next, one of the nutters will say "but swimming pools and cars".

No they would not. Because we know that, absent one weapon a depraved killer or rapist will simply choose another. It is, after all, what depraved killers and rapists do.

I can't speak for mudwhislte, but I know, if my kid, wife, mother, sister were killed in a mass shooting, my first question would be, what antidepressant was the shooter on when he did this.

Even many on the left know it's not the guns causing these shootings, it's the drug.



Watch it and learn. I know you won't, because you don't want to know the truth.

Lets flip your question and see if you have guts enough to answer it:

Your daughter, home with your granddaughter calls you and tells you she repelled a house invasion by a known rapist.

Would you care if she used an AR-15, or for that matter, any weapon, legal or not, to save her and/or your granddaughter?

I look forward to your answer, although I expect you don't have nerve enough to.

And yet when a bill is presented and passed by the house to the Senate that gives law enforcement the ability to temporarily confiscate weapons of people that are obviously violent or mentally ill, the Colorado Republican Senate doesn't even let it get out of the committee before it's defeated on a 5 to 2 strictly party vote. What the law was supposed to do is allow Law Enforcement the ability to seize the weapons of a clearly violent or mentally ill person and immediately quickly get it in front of a Judge who could make it longer term, permanent or override the decision. Your wonderful bunch saying that we should work to get the guns out of the mentally ill's hands is just crap. Guess your sponsor, the NRA, sees it as a way to make more sales. Can't wait until they get an override on all age limits and go for 6 year olds.

Watch the damn video. It’s not the mental illness, it’s the drug being administered. The fact is, and I’ve linked to the study at least a half dozen times, that THOSE WITH THE MENTAL ILLNESS, BUT NOT GIVEN THIS SPECIFIC COURSE OF TREATMENT, ARE RARELY VIOLENT! IT IS ONLY THOSE GIVEN THESE DRUGS THAT HAVE THESE VIOLENT OUTBURSTS.

See, I don’t think you give a rats ass about saving life’s, I think your only reasoning to push for restrictions is your hatred of Republicans. And that is irrational and disqualifies you in this discussion

 

[danielpalos]

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

The very definition of government is lousy management

Capitalism cannot do any better since social costs are an externality. That is why we achieve an efficiency gain by having Government. Along with indoor plumbing.

There is no instance where the government is a better manager or resources or a better steward of money than is the private sector

right wing propaganda?

anything the private sector can do, the public sector can do, on a not-for-profit basis.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

The very definition of government is lousy management

Capitalism cannot do any better since social costs are an externality. That is why we achieve an efficiency gain by having Government. Along with indoor plumbing.

There is no instance where the government is a better manager or resources or a better steward of money than is the private sector

right wing propaganda?

anything the private sector can do, the public sector can do, on a not-for-profit basis.

And at a higher cost.

Not making a profit in no way equals performing the same functions for less money

 

[jbander]

Posse comitatus is the common law of the land; and, we have a Second Amendment. Why do we have any security problems in our free States?

why blame Only the poor, for allegedly being lazy.

Socialism promotes laziness

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

The very definition of government is lousy management

Capitalism cannot do any better since social costs are an externality. That is why we achieve an efficiency gain by having Government. Along with indoor plumbing.

There is no instance where the government is a better manager or resources or a better steward of money than is the private sector

The hell there isn't, for one simple reason, capitalism has no conscience, government is forced to. One of them is profit driven, where lowest production cost is king. In fact without regulations corporations would eat our children for a profit.

 

[danielpalos]

lousy management does that.

socialism should be about, doing what you love, and not needing to get paid for it.

we have a long way to go.

The very definition of government is lousy management

Capitalism cannot do any better since social costs are an externality. That is why we achieve an efficiency gain by having Government. Along with indoor plumbing.

There is no instance where the government is a better manager or resources or a better steward of money than is the private sector

right wing propaganda?

anything the private sector can do, the public sector can do, on a not-for-profit basis.

And at a higher cost.

Not making a profit in no way equals performing the same functions for less money

why not? Labor costs may be higher; but, any public sector has recourse to forms of State Capitalism.