What to do about Trumps backstabbing on immigration ?

[JakeStarkey]

Correll's uninformed arrogance makes me laugh.

You were told a long time ago he would walk it back, boy. And Donnie did so on Hannity.

Now the far right nativists will desert him, feeling betrayed. Yeah, they are betrayed.

A new poll showing Hillary Clinton up 10 points gives insight into why Donald Trump’s campaign is faltering

 

[ptbw forever]

Someone from the GOP finally got through to him that he was promising an unconstitutional crime against humanity to his fucked up followers.

Wrong as usual fucktard. Eisenhower did it so can Trump. Not a goddamn thing illegal about deporting ppl here ILLEGALLY!

Doing it on a massive scale is not possible without denying them due process under the law. Unconstitutional.

Doing it on a massive scale without regard to their circumstances will certainly cause the deaths of a great many and make us look like a cruel and heartless nation damaging our relations with other nations without redemption. Cruelty is not who we are here in America, move somewhere else if you want to get your kicks from the pain of others.

They aren't citizens they have no rights

Someone from the GOP finally got through to him that he was promising an unconstitutional crime against humanity to his fucked up followers.

Wrong as usual fucktard. Eisenhower did it so can Trump. Not a goddamn thing illegal about deporting ppl here ILLEGALLY!

Doing it on a massive scale is not possible without denying them due process under the law. Unconstitutional.

Doing it on a massive scale without regard to their circumstances will certainly cause the deaths of a great many and make us look like a cruel and heartless nation damaging our relations with other nations without redemption. Cruelty is not who we are here in America, move somewhere else if you want to get your kicks from the pain of others.

They aren't citizens they have no rights

Another good example. ^^^

No knowledge of the US Constitution and can't be bothered to learn. Not only that, if he did bother to take a remedial 6th grade class about his own country, he wouldn't understand it and would fight against it.

Unfortunately for you the Democrat's plan of legalization for millions of people who willing broke our immigration laws is even more unconstitutional, if not blatant treason.

You idiots don't respect any aspect of pre-60s America and have no right to tell anyone educate themselves on America's history.

 

[Correll]

....Are you going to vote for someone who will start WWIII in order to defend Israel?



PRIORITIZE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can someone defending an ally be the one starting WWIII?

The US will clash against Iran and Russia in Syria.


May I remind you that the Russkies have nuclear weapons and can deliver them into your backyard?



.

Not if Trump wins. He has no problems with Russia. He knows that the Cold War is over.

If the cold war is over, why are the Russians trying to influence our election?

Why are the Russians hacking our government and spying on us?

Why are the Russians in Crimea, the Ukraine?

Because we keep fucking with them.

The Crimea is full of Russians.

 

[Correll]

wtf are you even trying to say?


I think that the vast majority of the inmates at Gitmo would have been happy to be sent home.

Way, WAY over your head.....Find a grown up to explain it to you...maybe even by using pictures.

YOur obtuseness is not my problem.

I asked you to clarify, and you response with nothing but snark.

Fuck you.

 

[nat4900]

YOur obtuseness is not my problem.

I asked you to clarify, and you response with nothing but snark.

Fuck you.

Wipe the spittle off your screen and go take a nap. LOL

 

[Camp]

At some point, the Trump base will realize they have been played and conned. Good for America that he got them before he was able to get the whole country. He was only able to scam the dopey brainwashed cult followers.

 

[Correll]

YOur obtuseness is not my problem.

I asked you to clarify, and you response with nothing but snark.

Fuck you.

Wipe the spittle off your screen and go take a nap. LOL

I asked you to clarify, and all you responded with was snark.


You either had no point at all, or one so stupid that you are happy to let it drop.

 

[easyt65]

At some point, the Trump base will realize they have been played and conned.

Americans have been conned for decades. Democrats have been lying to blacks for decades.

Liberals have been lying to themselves for decades.

Liberals have been lying to Conservatives in defense of their leaders for decades.

Politicians have been lying to EVERYONE for decades.

Obama won an award for lying.

You act like Americans should be stunned, pissed, or whatever to learn that a politician has lied to them.

If YOU want to be honest you will admit that even if Trump was elected and was still 100% determined to deport illegals, build a wall, and temporarilly halt the flood of Muslims into the US until they could be vetted thoroughly there isn't one politician in Washington who would let him do it.

Such actions could not happen without Congress. Democrats, and many Republicans, have no interest in stopping the Obama-administration-supported illegal immigration going on now.

 

[Correll]

At some point, the Trump base will realize they have been played and conned. Good for America that he got them before he was able to get the whole country. He was only able to scam the dopey brainwashed cult followers.

Deport the illegals, bring back the manufacturing jobs, and STOP fucking with Russia.


Only a liar or a fool could argue against those points.

Only an asshole would pretend they are unreasonable, or extreme or, God Forbid, "Racist".

 

[Divine Wind]

....YOu posted a meme showing an Indian being snarky about modern American's concerns about illegal immigration....Considering how stupid that post was, your arrogant tone in this one is certainly not justified....Quoting Patton in this context was stupid.
.....

Good grief. No fucking wonder the Trump campaign is a mess. It's one thing to battle enemies, but it's another to go nuts on those who are similarly minded. This has been a common problem on the right for nearly two decades and it's, IMO, the #1 reason why the fucking Democrats will likely win by default.

FWIW, Putin is a tin-plated dictator and a horse's ass.

 

[Correll]

....YOu posted a meme showing an Indian being snarky about modern American's concerns about illegal immigration....Considering how stupid that post was, your arrogant tone in this one is certainly not justified....Quoting Patton in this context was stupid.
.....

Good grief. No fucking wonder the Trump campaign is a mess. It's one thing to battle enemies, but it's another to go nuts on those who are similarly minded. This has been a common problem on the right for nearly two cades and it's, IMO, the #1 reason why the fucking Democrats will likely win by default.

FWIW, Putin is a tin-plated dictator and a horse's ass.

1. The Wall is a fine idea. To dismiss it as a simple answer to a complex problem is bullshit. IF that is your thinking than we are NOT similarly minded.

2. The Cold War is over. We have no conflict of interest with Russia. Putin is not our enemy. I am against our policy of being committed to fighting a global nuclear war over Estonia.

 

[Unkotare]

...We have no conflict of interest with Russia. Putin is not our enemy.....

 

[Divine Wind]

....YOu posted a meme showing an Indian being snarky about modern American's concerns about illegal immigration....Considering how stupid that post was, your arrogant tone in this one is certainly not justified....Quoting Patton in this context was stupid.
.....

Good grief. No fucking wonder the Trump campaign is a mess. It's one thing to battle enemies, but it's another to go nuts on those who are similarly minded. This has been a common problem on the right for nearly two cades and it's, IMO, the #1 reason why the fucking Democrats will likely win by default.

FWIW, Putin is a tin-plated dictator and a horse's ass.

1. The Wall is a fine idea. To dismiss it as a simple answer to a complex problem is bullshit. IF that is your thinking than we are NOT similarly minded.

2. The Cold War is over. We have no conflict of interest with Russia. Putin is not our enemy. I am against our policy of being committed to fighting a global nuclear war over Estonia.

1. You're a obviously simple minded. You completely ignored cheaper, more effective methods why latching onto the white elephant idea which will cost taxpayers unnecessary billions.

2. Bullshit. Putin's trying to put the USSR back together. If we didn't have a spineless Democrat in the White House, it wouldn't have gotten this far. Trump will bend even further in order to line his own pockets. Putin lovers are traitors.

 

[hazlnut]

Vigilantism as inspired by ISIS might curb thier desire to remain here...

Guess trump ain't gotta worry about an illegal piece of shit killing his family while driving drunk or without a license when they shouldn't even be here. This shit is exactly part of the reason I think democracy is a joke and what is needed is 1 man absolute rule obviously leaders who give a shit about their citizens are extremely rare

That wasn't YOUR BACK he stabbed you in.

And that wasn't a knife he slipped inside you from behind.

But you all see to enjoy it...

 

[Correll]

...We have no conflict of interest with Russia. Putin is not our enemy.....

If there was a real conflict of interests, you could post it is a single sentence.

But you won't. NO one does, because there is not one.

 

[Correll]

....YOu posted a meme showing an Indian being snarky about modern American's concerns about illegal immigration....Considering how stupid that post was, your arrogant tone in this one is certainly not justified....Quoting Patton in this context was stupid.
.....

Good grief. No fucking wonder the Trump campaign is a mess. It's one thing to battle enemies, but it's another to go nuts on those who are similarly minded. This has been a common problem on the right for nearly two cades and it's, IMO, the #1 reason why the fucking Democrats will likely win by default.

FWIW, Putin is a tin-plated dictator and a horse's ass.

1. The Wall is a fine idea. To dismiss it as a simple answer to a complex problem is bullshit. IF that is your thinking than we are NOT similarly minded.

2. The Cold War is over. We have no conflict of interest with Russia. Putin is not our enemy. I am against our policy of being committed to fighting a global nuclear war over Estonia.

1. You're a obviously simple minded. You completely ignored cheaper, more effective methods why latching onto the white elephant idea which will cost taxpayers unnecessary billions.

2. Bullshit. Putin's trying to put the USSR back together. If we didn't have a spineless Democrat in the White House, it wouldn't have gotten this far. Trump will bend even further in order to line his own pockets. Putin lovers are traitors.

1.Trump's web site includes many of those "cheaper" and supposedly "more effective" methods to ALSO be enacted if he wins. What you are missing is that lefties use debates like this to muddle the issue and to prevent ANY ACTION. You are their dupe.

2. The USSR is was a threat during the Cold War for a number of reasons, none of which Putin can recreate. NO matter the level of dominance he manages to achieve in the FSU, he will not be a threat to US. At best he could hope some day to be a threat to Poland. And that would be overreach.

 

[hazlnut]

Oddy got something big jammed in his backside.

 

[Divine Wind]

1.Trump's web site includes many of those "cheaper" and supposedly "more effective" methods to ALSO be enacted if he wins. What you are missing is that lefties use debates like this to muddle the issue and to prevent ANY ACTION. You are their dupe.

2. The USSR is was a threat during the Cold War for a number of reasons, none of which Putin can recreate. NO matter the level of dominance he manages to achieve in the FSU, he will not be a threat to US. At best he could hope some day to be a threat to Poland. And that would be overreach.

1. Nonetheless, the focus is on the Wall. You know, just like the fucking LW anti-gunners tag on "better mental health care" to their anti-gun bills banning "high-capacity" magazines and "military-style" firearms. The Wall is a last resort, not a first resort, yet that's exactly what people like you are pushing. Name call all you want. I expect that from political fanatics.

2. Only blind political fanatics believe Russia isn't a threat to the US. Saying he's more of a threat to Ukraine, Poland or any other former USSR occupied country doesn't mean he still isn't a threat to Western nations, including the USA as all the links below state. If someone has facts and links, not just opinions pulled out of their asses, refuting these links, I'd love to see them.

Global Threat Level to America's Defense
In Europe, Russia remains the primary threat to American interests. The 2016 Index, like the previous year’s Index, assessed the threat emanating from Russia as: a behavior score of “aggressive” and a capability score of “gathering.” Russia has continued to support separatist movements in Ukraine, has engaged in massive pro-Russia propaganda campaigns internal to Ukraine and in other Eastern European countries, and over the past year has performed a series of provocative military exercises and training missions that are viewed as warning signals to neighboring countries.

Russia's Military: Assessment, Strategy, and Threat
June 24, 2016

Russia’s actions in Crimea, eastern Ukraine, and Syria have demonstrated the reemergence of the Russian military as one of the Kremlin’s most effective foreign policy tools. The success of these campaigns comes as a result of major military reform and modernization efforts that began in 2008.

What changes led to today’s revamped Russian military? How will the Kremlin use its modernized force as a geopolitical tool? And does Russia’s new military pose a threat to the West? CGI’s latest report moves beyond simplistic characterizations of the Russian Armed Forces by providing a quantitive and qualitative assessment of the Force in the context of Russia’s reemergence on the geopolitical stage, as well as the upcoming NATO summit in July 2016.

How serious is Russia's military threat?
Russia is modernizing its military and threatening its neighbors. Is a confrontation coming? Here's everything you need to know:

What is Russia up to?
Since annexing the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, Russia has been throwing its weight around in Eastern Europe. Russian military planes and ships have been aggressively buzzing U.S. and NATO aircraft and vessels and intruding into European waters and airspace. Russian warplanes recently flew simulated attack passes at an American destroyer in the Baltic Sea, and in April, a Russian warplane did a dangerous barrel roll over an American fighter jet, passing within just 25 feet. In May, British fighter jets intercepted three Russian military transport aircraft — which could carry troops or heavy equipment — approaching NATO member Estonia and refusing to answer hails. British Defense Secretary Michael Fallon described the incident as an "act of Russian aggression." These provocative actions have occurred at the same time as Russian President Vladimir Putin has been modernizing and upgrading his military forces.

Why the upgrade?
Putin inherited a lumbering and antiquated military from the Soviet Union, along with status as a second-rate power. He wants Russia to once again become a credible counterweight to the U.S. and NATO, and protect its dominion over its traditional sphere of influence. To that end, he has spent billions on a new generation of nuclear missiles as well as new tanks and fighter jets. The Russian military plans to vastly increase its manpower too, announcing 40 new brigades by 2020, on top of the 70 brigades it already has. Whether it can deliver on that plan, though, is debatable, since the oil price slump has hit Russia hard, depriving Putin of needed revenue. But Russia has nonetheless been moving troops and weapons closer to the borders of its neighbors and NATO members. Its Black Sea Fleet, headquartered in the Crimean port of Sebastopol, recently added a dozen warships and has been sending them out on patrols near the Bulgarian, Romanian, and Turkish coasts. "The Black Sea has almost become a Russian lake," said Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Could Russia rival the U.S.?
There's no chance of that. Even the top Pentagon brass — who are using Putin's buildup to argue for greater funding — don't believe American military supremacy is in jeopardy. The U.S. still spends nearly seven times more on defense (about $600 billion) than Russia ($84 billion), and has 19 aircraft carriers to Russia's one. And NATO has four times Russia's military power. Under treaties signed by recent presidents, including George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the two sides have approximate nuclear parity, but the U.S. has hundreds of nondeployed warheads in storage, and Russia does not. Because of these imbalances, says military analyst Daniel Gouré, Russia is relying on intimidation and unpredictable behavior, in the hope that NATO will "accept a small defeat rather than risk a big war" — the very tactic it has used in Crimea and Ukraine. To ratchet up Western fear, Russia has even suggested it would use nuclear weapons in local conflicts.


What is NATO doing in response?
Worried that NATO is unprepared for a sudden Russian offensive, the Obama administration is moving 5,000 troops, and tanks and other heavy weapons, into several Baltic and Eastern European countries. NATO is also getting around to deploying missile defense systems in Poland and Romania that were originally proposed in 2002, when the U.S. was still reeling from 9/11 and worried about Iran getting the bomb. A base in Romania became operational just a few weeks ago, and work has begun on another in Poland. Moscow is livid, and argues that since Iran has now been prevented from obtaining a nuclear weapon, the missile defense system must be aimed at Russia, in violation of several treaties. NATO officials counter that Russia has almost certainly already violated those treaties by placing nuclear weapons in Kaliningrad, a tiny exclave of Russian territory nestled between Lithuania and Poland on the Baltic Sea.

Is that the next flash point?
It could be. Last December, Russia conducted a snap military drill in Kaliningrad, bringing its forces to the highest state of alert just miles from two NATO capitals. Some analysts believe it could begin manufacturing crises around access to Kaliningrad as a form of blackmail, to pressure NATO to roll back its missile defense program or even formally recognize the annexation of Crimea.

What will happen next?
NATO plans large-scale war games involving 10,000 troops in Poland in June, just ahead of a major NATO summit meeting in Warsaw. There, President Obama will meet with heads of all NATO member states, and Russian aggression is expected to be a major topic. NATO says it wants to keep talking with Russia, and it has reconvened a NATO-Russia council that stopped meeting after the Crimea annexation. But NATO no longer speaks of a "strategic partnership" with Russia, but rather uses Cold War–era rhetoric about keeping lines of communication open. Russian officials, meanwhile, are taking a belligerent and pessimistic tone. The world "has slid into a new Cold War," said Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

Moscow's ongoing cyberwar
Russia now outstrips China as America's biggest cyberthreat. "Russian cyber actors are developing means to remotely access industrial control systems used to manage critical infrastructures," National Intelligence Director James Clapper said. Hackers with ties to the Kremlin have already penetrated computer systems at the Polish stock exchange, a French TV station, The New York Times, NATO, and even the White House and the Pentagon. Much of the hacking is for harassment and espionage, but at times it also presents a physical threat. In 2014, Russian hackers took over a computer that controlled the blast furnace at a German steel mill, inserting malware that caused the machine to melt down. Russian cyberattacks on Ukraine have taken out part of the power grid and interrupted military communications. In Syria, Russian jamming systems interfere with NATO spy satellites. "Russia certainly has been more active than any other country in terms of combining cyberattacks, or cyberoperations, with [military] operations," said security expert Jeffrey Carr. "China has never done anything like that."

 

[IsaacNewton]

Amnesty is exactly what trump is putting forth. He will call it everything but what it is, but it is what it is.

He lied. Lying Donald lied again. But of course he could shoot someone and you followers of his would still vote for him, right? Yeah well now he's becoming Jeb Bush. You could have just voted for Jeb Bush 8 months ago. Same outcome.

 

[Correll]

1.Trump's web site includes many of those "cheaper" and supposedly "more effective" methods to ALSO be enacted if he wins. What you are missing is that lefties use debates like this to muddle the issue and to prevent ANY ACTION. You are their dupe.

2. The USSR is was a threat during the Cold War for a number of reasons, none of which Putin can recreate. NO matter the level of dominance he manages to achieve in the FSU, he will not be a threat to US. At best he could hope some day to be a threat to Poland. And that would be overreach.

1. Nonetheless, the focus is on the Wall. You know, just like the fucking LW anti-gunners tag on "better mental health care" to their anti-gun bills banning "high-capacity" magazines and "military-style" firearms. The Wall is a last resort, not a first resort, yet that's exactly what people like you are pushing. Name call all you want. I expect that from political fanatics.

2. Only blind political fanatics believe Russia isn't a threat to the US. Saying he's more of a threat to Ukraine, Poland or any other former USSR occupied country doesn't mean he still isn't a threat to Western nations, including the USA as all the links below state. If someone has facts and links, not just opinions pulled out of their asses, refuting these links, I'd love to see them.

Global Threat Level to America's Defense
In Europe, Russia remains the primary threat to American interests. The 2016 Index, like the previous year’s Index, assessed the threat emanating from Russia as: a behavior score of “aggressive” and a capability score of “gathering.” Russia has continued to support separatist movements in Ukraine, has engaged in massive pro-Russia propaganda campaigns internal to Ukraine and in other Eastern European countries, and over the past year has performed a series of provocative military exercises and training missions that are viewed as warning signals to neighboring countries.

Russia's Military: Assessment, Strategy, and Threat
June 24, 2016

Russia’s actions in Crimea, eastern Ukraine, and Syria have demonstrated the reemergence of the Russian military as one of the Kremlin’s most effective foreign policy tools. The success of these campaigns comes as a result of major military reform and modernization efforts that began in 2008.

What changes led to today’s revamped Russian military? How will the Kremlin use its modernized force as a geopolitical tool? And does Russia’s new military pose a threat to the West? CGI’s latest report moves beyond simplistic characterizations of the Russian Armed Forces by providing a quantitive and qualitative assessment of the Force in the context of Russia’s reemergence on the geopolitical stage, as well as the upcoming NATO summit in July 2016.

How serious is Russia's military threat?
Russia is modernizing its military and threatening its neighbors. Is a confrontation coming? Here's everything you need to know:

What is Russia up to?
Since annexing the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, Russia has been throwing its weight around in Eastern Europe. Russian military planes and ships have been aggressively buzzing U.S. and NATO aircraft and vessels and intruding into European waters and airspace. Russian warplanes recently flew simulated attack passes at an American destroyer in the Baltic Sea, and in April, a Russian warplane did a dangerous barrel roll over an American fighter jet, passing within just 25 feet. In May, British fighter jets intercepted three Russian military transport aircraft — which could carry troops or heavy equipment — approaching NATO member Estonia and refusing to answer hails. British Defense Secretary Michael Fallon described the incident as an "act of Russian aggression." These provocative actions have occurred at the same time as Russian President Vladimir Putin has been modernizing and upgrading his military forces.

Why the upgrade?
Putin inherited a lumbering and antiquated military from the Soviet Union, along with status as a second-rate power. He wants Russia to once again become a credible counterweight to the U.S. and NATO, and protect its dominion over its traditional sphere of influence. To that end, he has spent billions on a new generation of nuclear missiles as well as new tanks and fighter jets. The Russian military plans to vastly increase its manpower too, announcing 40 new brigades by 2020, on top of the 70 brigades it already has. Whether it can deliver on that plan, though, is debatable, since the oil price slump has hit Russia hard, depriving Putin of needed revenue. But Russia has nonetheless been moving troops and weapons closer to the borders of its neighbors and NATO members. Its Black Sea Fleet, headquartered in the Crimean port of Sebastopol, recently added a dozen warships and has been sending them out on patrols near the Bulgarian, Romanian, and Turkish coasts. "The Black Sea has almost become a Russian lake," said Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Could Russia rival the U.S.?
There's no chance of that. Even the top Pentagon brass — who are using Putin's buildup to argue for greater funding — don't believe American military supremacy is in jeopardy. The U.S. still spends nearly seven times more on defense (about $600 billion) than Russia ($84 billion), and has 19 aircraft carriers to Russia's one. And NATO has four times Russia's military power. Under treaties signed by recent presidents, including George W. Bush and Barack Obama, the two sides have approximate nuclear parity, but the U.S. has hundreds of nondeployed warheads in storage, and Russia does not. Because of these imbalances, says military analyst Daniel Gouré, Russia is relying on intimidation and unpredictable behavior, in the hope that NATO will "accept a small defeat rather than risk a big war" — the very tactic it has used in Crimea and Ukraine. To ratchet up Western fear, Russia has even suggested it would use nuclear weapons in local conflicts.


What is NATO doing in response?
Worried that NATO is unprepared for a sudden Russian offensive, the Obama administration is moving 5,000 troops, and tanks and other heavy weapons, into several Baltic and Eastern European countries. NATO is also getting around to deploying missile defense systems in Poland and Romania that were originally proposed in 2002, when the U.S. was still reeling from 9/11 and worried about Iran getting the bomb. A base in Romania became operational just a few weeks ago, and work has begun on another in Poland. Moscow is livid, and argues that since Iran has now been prevented from obtaining a nuclear weapon, the missile defense system must be aimed at Russia, in violation of several treaties. NATO officials counter that Russia has almost certainly already violated those treaties by placing nuclear weapons in Kaliningrad, a tiny exclave of Russian territory nestled between Lithuania and Poland on the Baltic Sea.

Is that the next flash point?
It could be. Last December, Russia conducted a snap military drill in Kaliningrad, bringing its forces to the highest state of alert just miles from two NATO capitals. Some analysts believe it could begin manufacturing crises around access to Kaliningrad as a form of blackmail, to pressure NATO to roll back its missile defense program or even formally recognize the annexation of Crimea.

What will happen next?
NATO plans large-scale war games involving 10,000 troops in Poland in June, just ahead of a major NATO summit meeting in Warsaw. There, President Obama will meet with heads of all NATO member states, and Russian aggression is expected to be a major topic. NATO says it wants to keep talking with Russia, and it has reconvened a NATO-Russia council that stopped meeting after the Crimea annexation. But NATO no longer speaks of a "strategic partnership" with Russia, but rather uses Cold War–era rhetoric about keeping lines of communication open. Russian officials, meanwhile, are taking a belligerent and pessimistic tone. The world "has slid into a new Cold War," said Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

Moscow's ongoing cyberwar
Russia now outstrips China as America's biggest cyberthreat. "Russian cyber actors are developing means to remotely access industrial control systems used to manage critical infrastructures," National Intelligence Director James Clapper said. Hackers with ties to the Kremlin have already penetrated computer systems at the Polish stock exchange, a French TV station, The New York Times, NATO, and even the White House and the Pentagon. Much of the hacking is for harassment and espionage, but at times it also presents a physical threat. In 2014, Russian hackers took over a computer that controlled the blast furnace at a German steel mill, inserting malware that caused the machine to melt down. Russian cyberattacks on Ukraine have taken out part of the power grid and interrupted military communications. In Syria, Russian jamming systems interfere with NATO spy satellites. "Russia certainly has been more active than any other country in terms of combining cyberattacks, or cyberoperations, with [military] operations," said security expert Jeffrey Carr. "China has never done anything like that."

1. The whole comprehensive plan is there and you are undermining it.

2. I recall a recurring discuss during the COld War was the question of whether, if the soviets ever started the tanks rolling, if they would claim they would stop at the German French border, thus avoiding danger of French nuclear response, or if they would just roll to the Atlantic.

THis was a question, because flipping West Germany with it's large economy and population and military from West to East would end NATO and allow Soviet domination over the whole world.


That is a threat to the US.


NOthing Putin can do can touch that.

Your link talks of US putting tanks in the BALTICS. That is insane.

I do not want fight a nuclear war over the Baltics.

Putin could take all three and it would not effect the Balance of Power.

NATO expansion was a mistake and a provocative one at that.